Hi all,
I've been reading a lot of threads about wireless charging and one of the most frequently asked questions is:
"Does this work with my [insert case here]?".
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So I thought it would be a good idea to make a thread where everybody can check if their cases are compatible before they actually buy the kit.
The 'set-up' I'll use for the testing will be this one; this backcover and this touchstone.
(Please note that I'm not affiliated with any of those products nor sellers. I'm just a guy that's trying to help his fellow S3-owners out before they buy the kit/mod. Those products also were the cheapest ones I could find on eBay as of 27th november.)
I will divide this into 2 sections; the QI wireless charging and the Touchstone wireless charging (mod).
I've ordered a couple of cases to test out and I will report back later. Also, I'll probably give these cases away afterwards anyways.
In the meantime it would be great if people could add cases that are compatible and if they use the QI or the Touchstone wireless charger.
QI wireless charging compatible cases:
-Otterbox Defender
-Otterbox Commuter
-Otterbox Prefix
-Spigen SGP Neo Hybrid
-(some) TPU/Plastic cases
Touchstone wireless charging compatible cases:
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I've added a section like that on the stickied qi thread as well [last night]. (in my post that is).
Specifically for the Qi ones. Afaik, members who have the otterbox commuter & defender are able to charge w/ the Qi charger.
I have a hybrid tpu/plastic case that also works with the qi kit.
mputtr said:
I've added a section like that on the stickied qi thread as well [last night]. (in my post that is).
Specifically for the Qi ones. Afaik, members who have the otterbox commuter & defender are able to charge w/ the Qi charger.
I have a hybrid tpu/plastic case that also works with the qi kit.
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Alright, thanks for your input. Do you want me to delete the QI piece? So there are no double posts and whatnot.
I don't really care. I think it's fine to have a place to double check.
i just manage to put the Touchstone wireless charger from palm into the galaxy s3 battery cover, ordering some case on amazon, will report back.
Since this thread is about Qi & Wireless charging tech.
Why not link to where we can get a battery back with the capability to wireless charge our phones? just a thought.
I've brain stormed ideas including ways to add a wireless charging station to a car/truck but I have yet to get a wireless/Qi battery door to make it even possible to start doing such experiments.
I had heard Samsung announced a wireless charging kit for the S3 but apparently never released it. (hopefully they show it off this week at CES for release alongside the new Extended battery coming this month)
check my 2nd post in the sticked thread for different options. That was all I was able to gather before it got close due to some members who blatantly abused the thread for their personal gains.
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check my 2nd post in the sticked thread for different options. That was all I was able to gather before it got close due to some members who blatantly abused the thread for their personal gains.
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Are the Qi backs compatible with the Nokia wireless pads? I read some threads on here that some users are using them but wasn't sure if that was entirely true and if it worked or not.
they work. It's a qi reciever so any transmitter will work. (i have the yijieneng one and tested it out on the nokia pad and the speaker/charger pad combo at the AT&T store and it charges just fine.
qvnsq said:
i just manage to put the Touchstone wireless charger from palm into the galaxy s3 battery cover, ordering some case on amazon, will report back.
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Received my cover a while back. Also ordered 2 touchstones and *about* 20 different types of cases from different locations.
Was on holiday and didn't manage to get home yet but tonight I'll try everything out.
NCX Designs said:
Since this thread is about Qi & Wireless charging tech.
Why not link to where we can get a battery back with the capability to wireless charge our phones? just a thought.
I've brain stormed ideas including ways to add a wireless charging station to a car/truck but I have yet to get a wireless/Qi battery door to make it even possible to start doing such experiments.
I had heard Samsung announced a wireless charging kit for the S3 but apparently never released it. (hopefully they show it off this week at CES for release alongside the new Extended battery coming this month)
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Alright, will add this in the OP.
FYI, I bought this backcover and 2 of these touchstones (note: doesn't come with a cable or anything; just the touchstone).
Also, haven't had a chance to try the combo out -yet. See previous reply.
Yeah, they announced it but haven't released anything yet. Frankly, I don't even know if they'll ever release it. Maybe it was just for the hype of it.
After all, they were 'one of the first' that would incorporate this in a device so widely sold.
I have the Zens white backcover with the Zens charging pad. It works but the cover is too thick for use with my case (which i want to keep) + it's white (Black S3).
I was wondering if anyone has experience with dismantling the tech in the zens cover and 'mounting' it in the standard samsung cover. Any feedback is welcome before i rip it apart
I got this touchstone back;
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=170950767865
The magnet is terrible, it can barely stay on the touchstone without a case on it, and let alone with a case.
I have a touchstone on my dash in my car and even when driving slow in a straight line with no case on, the phone won't stay on the touchstone.
This Sucks because I bought sygic gps and was hoping this could replace my windshield mounted deactivated HTC touch pro 2 with igo8 finally.
Has anyone got one with an acceptable strength magnet?
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NCX Designs said:
Since this thread is about Qi & Wireless charging tech.
Why not link to where we can get a battery back with the capability to wireless charge our phones? just a thought.
I've brain stormed ideas including ways to add a wireless charging station to a car/truck but I have yet to get a wireless/Qi battery door to make it even possible to start doing such experiments.
I had heard Samsung announced a wireless charging kit for the S3 but apparently never released it. (hopefully they show it off this week at CES for release alongside the new Extended battery coming this month)
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cheapest I've found yet. $17.28 shipped for the receiver, I think $50 for the kit. free shipping. (same pad as every other overseas site, just way cheaper and verisign secure/certificate matches)
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Here is my review video! I am a huge fan of the palm touchstone wireless charging mod and this is the best way to get it...
http://youtu.be/NGvyWBOQy0U
Nice, couple questions.
Do you use a case? I have an Otterbox Commuter and was wondering if that is thin enough to still register.
Also, will that back cover work on the Energizer Qi charging system?
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Thanks for the video!, few questions tho:
Does it work with a case (I imagine this will be a popular question)
Is the quality of the back cover noticeable different to the stock back cover? Or is it a completely stock totally 100% the same back cover with the wireless charging mod?
And what charging pad do you recommend?
Unfortunately I do not use cases as I just use a clear shield so I have no idea if it works with otterbox or any case.
This mod will not work with any pad. It will only work with the Palm Touchstone. I dont recco any pad as I only recco the touchstone. I like having one in my car, at the office and one on the nightstand.
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Unfortunately I do not use cases as I just use a clear shield so I have no idea if it works with otterbox or any case.
This mod will not work with any pad. It will only work with the Palm Touchstone. I dont recco any pad as I only recco the touchstone. I like having one in my car, at the office and one on the nightstand.
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Can you try just putting something a few mm's thick between the phone and the charge pad and seeing if it still charges?
i got this mod with a 3mm thin case from ebay. they work perfectly.
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It works with a few mm but not sure how that affects charging. Please dont just take my word for it. Dont want you spending 30 on a back cover you cant use. But if it doesnt work i will buy it from ypu for a major discount. Lol
I dont believe qi is the way to go. The new nexus has wireless charging like the touchstone. I wonder if its compatible?
probably not. afaik, each of these wireless charging is proprietary and most probably incompatible with each other. The touchstone will only work with touchstone products (atleast from what I understand, it's different frequencies and also component parts differences)
You are probably right but i hope you are wrong... either way i am so surprised more phones dont charge like this.
Nexus 4 Qi
check out the news regarding Nexus 4 Qi "Orb" in this forum at "Qi Wireless accessories " Post# 136 on page 14 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933523)
Hi axel. Is there any source to your news?
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Hi axel. Is there any source to your news?
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To name a few:
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/29/here-are-the-official-specs-for-the-nexus-4-and-nexus-10/
http://techwhack.com/google-nexus-4-supports-qi-wireless-charging-tech-5300/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-announces-Wireless-Charging-Orb-for-the-Nexus-4_id36060#1-
Google Nexus 4 Wireless
Now on Google's website as well:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb&feature=microsite
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probably not. afaik, each of these wireless charging is proprietary and most probably incompatible with each other. The touchstone will only work with touchstone products (atleast from what I understand, it's different frequencies and also component parts differences)
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Frequencies have anything to do with it. I'm pretty sure inductive charging uses magnetic fields to charge your device hence the giant coil in the phone cover. BUT, each base is most likely specific to it's counter part coil as different size coils will charge at different rates from the magenet in the base vs the amount of voltage and amps they put through the magnet. So it would make sense if a say Powermat didn't work with a Touchstone coil.
On the other hand, the touchstone uses a standard phone charger so it has a maximum of 5V at 1amp. I do not know what power source the Duracell Powermat uses (looked a little but didn't search long) so if it were to use a higher voltage at the same amps or higher amps at the same voltage then it may charger your phone faster.
NOTE: It should also be noted that if you use a different charging source with the touchstone base you could end up generating a different level of voltage and in turn damage your phone. It's not recommended to do this. The downfall (that I have found) with the touchstone setup is that it WILL charge through thin TPU cases and my Rock Quicksand case BUT the magnet is not strong enough to hold the phone in place. Since the touchstone is angled and not flat the phone starts to slide down and charging stops.
You can always switch out the magnets so your phone sits better on the touchstone. Its easy to change and it can make a nice diference.
Just ordered one. Touchstone rules.
@setzer715
that's an interesting read. thanks for clarifying the differences. I skimmed on articles about different wireless charging tech and remembered a few mentions of frequencies.
If only there is a standard that can adapt or provide compatibility with other methods... but that would probably drive up costs and probably extend r&d time.
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@setzer715
that's an interesting read. thanks for clarifying the differences. I skimmed on articles about different wireless charging tech and remembered a few mentions of frequencies.
If only there is a standard that can adapt or provide compatibility with other methods... but that would probably drive up costs and probably extend r&d time.
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may be in the future a multi format will be available.:fingers-crossed:
Hello.
I'm using the same charger with my i9300. But it charging the phone too long
Also I have removed a wireless charging module from a custom back cover and install it on my original i9300 back cover.
I've been looking at these two products for my sprint galaxy s3 and I have some specific questions. I did lots of searching and I hope what I know so far is right if not please correct me. Both of these are the qi standard. I also believe the Powermat I already own is qi standard.
The verizon back cover will work for charging but the nfc will not work with it.
The Powermat is a case that fits completely over the phone. Does mhl and nfc still work with this case?
What mah do these charge at?
Anyone who owns these would you please test this out for me. I am trying to decide what to buy.
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I have used this case and the NFC does not work with the case. The MHL adapter will not work with the case. The case charges at 1amp I think.
Hope thus helps.
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powermat and qi products are not currently interoperable with each other especially the older ones. if you have a powermat charger, you need to get a powermat receiver (they sell the backing on amazon and from their official store).
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Thanks for the info. I called Powermat and the Rep (who sounded clueless) said nfc and mhl will not work with the case. He also said Powermat is not qi compatible. However, I read a review on Amazon that said nfc tags work with it. So i went on ahead and ordered it. Since i really liked this on my evo. I just wish i could of got it in blue. I will be testing the nfc, mhl, and otg when I get it Thursday. If anyone else has questions about anything else let me know and I will test it and or give pics.
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What are you wanting to do, wireless charge via qi. I use energizer 3 position charger $24.00 ebay with Verizon back. The Verizon back is both nfc and wireless charger. Only Verizon phones have extra contacts for nfc to work through the door. The batteries must be nfc compatible also. There are posts of people moding a cheap door $5.00 with a palm charger less $15.00 and using it to wireless charge. But the qi is supposed to be getting an update that will charge at a larger distance thus thicker cases should be able to be charged through. I love the qi. Good luck
Powermat not compatible
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even the qi receivers you get off ebay that fit underneath the battery door work w/ NFC. It's up to you though. Check the 2nd post in the qi wireless charging thread stickied in this forum. I have a video showing the qi receiver I have and also that it works w/ NFC
I think you are making a better choice for wireless charging but I already own a Powermat so I would like to keep using it. It might not be the best but It always works and works well. I already sucked it up and ordered my Powermat case i will get it tomorrow and tell you guys how it goes.
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if it charges, it charges. I guess that's all there is to say to it.
The powermat case you get should work just fine w/ the transmitter that you have. You're a-ok imo
Well here is my review. I have been using the powermat case for awhile now and over all im disappointed. Otg and mhl does not work. It doesnt even want to connect to the computer through a USB cable. When I did get it to connect it didnt want to transfer anything. As far as nfc it sometimes works. The case is pushing up my screen protector on the bottom of my phone and I have a zagg screen protector which is a really nice one. It cost me fifty dollars when I got my phone. I case is hard to put on and off which wouldnt be such a big dill except I end up taking it off all the time to connect things to my phone.
About the only good things about it is... it is a hole case so thats nice if you drop it but the case its self is not very durable. I already have many scratches all over it. it does charge my phone well and seems to charge just as fast as my usb charger that came with my phone.
I think there's some other things im forgetting but I think you get my point. I will keep this since I already have it and my mat from my evo but I dont think I will be buying any more powermat products.
Ps I dont really mind the white case on my blue phone but some might. They dont make any other color yet.
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Did anyone already come across a suitable QI receiver pad for the G?
Moto G doesn't support wireless charging.
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tmeader said:
Moto G doesn't support wireless charging.
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Which is precisely why I want to add the feature with a receiver pad...
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Which is precisely why I want to add the feature with a receiver pad...
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The battery isn't removable, so it isn't really possible.
I have a MotoG, and upon taking off the back cover, I can't seem to locate the pins normally used with Qi pads like on the Samsungs. So, I may be completely wrong, but as of right now, I think the G will not support wireless charging.
I suppose those could work http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Q...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item3cd871bdf7 but they are a bit besides the point if microusb then cannot be used...
I've ordered one of those Universal Pads and some other stuff from DealExtreme a week ago. I will report back with pictures when it arrives here. The parcel however is still in China and I don't think it will clear german customs until after christmas.
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I've ordered one of those Universal Pads and some other stuff from DealExtreme a week ago. I will report back with pictures when it arrives here. The parcel however is still in China and I don't think it will clear german customs until after christmas.
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I'm very interested to hear if this works. I haven't been able to find any reviews for those Qi charging coil inserts, either. Have you heard of it working on the Moto G or other phones?
Motorola would have advertised it as having wireless charging if they put it in. This was one of the features they left out to cut the price
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Motorola would have advertised it as having wireless charging if they put it in. This was one of the features they left out to cut the price
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I'm asking about those aftermarket coil inserts that supposedly provide Qi charging by plugging into the micro USB and going between the battery cover or a case.
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I'm asking about those aftermarket coil inserts that supposedly provide Qi charging by plugging into the micro USB and going between the battery cover or a case.
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I think you will find the clearances to be too too tight for that. I think the best bet will be if someone integrates it into a shell or case.
Hey all. Recently broke my charger port. Im going over to wireless charging now for my main source of charging. What is the best kit for it? Been looking around for a good kit that isnt too boot leg.
I was thinking about getting this...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-i9300-Wireless-Charge-Touch-Stone-White-/150938457137
I think this is a forbidden topic. There's a Qi charging thread that's stickied and the last post just states that it's not allowed on this site. I think it's stupid to ban Qi wireless charging topics altogether because there's a few bad apples trying to hock their products here.
I just got a Nexus 7 2013 and since it has Qi charging capabilities built in, I decided to buy a charger. I found on the N7 section that the TYLT Vu is the best premium base so I ordered one from Tmo with a 30% discount code that still worked.
Since I was getting into wireless charging for my N7, I decided to look into it for my S3. I bought a cheap chinese knockoff receiver on ebay and while it works, it starts disconnecting/reconnecting after it gets to about 88%-90%. It still charges to 100% but it keeps disconnecting/reconnecting every 10 sec to 1 min with the associated notification beep each time. I turned the notification sounds off while charging until I find a real solution. So where else do I go to find issues with my phone other than XDA. Too bad they banned this topic. You'll have to go elsewhere to find recent and relevant info about current Qi wireless chargers and receivers.
I'd love to resolve this issue as wireless charging is frickin awesome!!!
I have a kit if you are interested..
Warrior 3000 said:
Hey all. Recently broke my charger port. Im going over to wireless charging now for my main source of charging. What is the best kit for it? Been looking around for a good kit that isnt too boot leg.
I was thinking about getting this...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-i9300-Wireless-Charge-Touch-Stone-White-/150938457137
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my suggestion is to get the receiver pad from ebay and look online for the nokia qi charging plate. they go on sale for 25 bucks regularly.
I got one of the earlier Qi kits from one of the chinese manufacturers and while the receiver works really well, I can't say the same for the transmitter...
EDIT: Yes, the other sticky got closed down because despite requests for people to NOT hawk their products, some people ignored the request and in the end screwed everyone else that wanted to keep the thread as an informational source. Some people honestly don't care how many others they screwed over so they can hawk a few sales and blatantly disregard the rules.
I personally use this receiver. It charges perfectly through my lifeproof case.
I use this one:
w w w . fasttech.com/products/1139900
The sticker creates a slight buldge through the back cover but that never really annoyed me. Charging worked as advertised.
@ackzsel
I think I buy the same... Does it charge if you have a thin TPU case on the phone?
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@ackzsel
I think I buy the same... Does it charge if you have a thin TPU case on the phone?
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Shouldn't be a problem if it's thin. Charging range is a few centimeters.
Has anybody tested this with a genuine samsung 3000 mah battery ? I would really like to find a suitable one for mine with the 3000 mah kit.
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xe0r said:
Has anybody tested this with a genuine samsung 3000 mah battery ? I would really like to find a suitable one for mine with the 3000 mah kit.
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probably wouldn't fit properly. the standard battery with the receiver pad already creates a bulge. the 3000mah battery is even thicker.
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I think this is a forbidden topic. There's a Qi charging thread that's stickied and the last post just states that it's not allowed on this site. I think it's stupid to ban Qi wireless charging topics altogether because there's a few bad apples trying to hock their products here.
I just got a Nexus 7 2013 and since it has Qi charging capabilities built in, I decided to buy a charger. I found on the N7 section that the TYLT Vu is the best premium base so I ordered one from Tmo with a 30% discount code that still worked.
Since I was getting into wireless charging for my N7, I decided to look into it for my S3. I bought a cheap chinese knockoff receiver on ebay and while it works, it starts disconnecting/reconnecting after it gets to about 88%-90%. It still charges to 100% but it keeps disconnecting/reconnecting every 10 sec to 1 min with the associated notification beep each time. I turned the notification sounds off while charging until I find a real solution. So where else do I go to find issues with my phone other than XDA. Too bad they banned this topic. You'll have to go elsewhere to find recent and relevant info about current Qi wireless chargers and receivers.
I'd love to resolve this issue as wireless charging is frickin awesome!!!
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I have an S3 that I just converted to wireless charging. I see the same behavior of connecting / disconnecting when fully charged. The display is like a strobe light.
Are you saying that even with the TYLT VU the S3 still had this behavior?
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I personally use this receiver. It charges perfectly through my lifeproof case.
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I'm using the same one. I also bought the charging pad from the same manufacturer and it seems to work better. It only beeps when it's fully charged and that's it.
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Shouldn't be a problem if it's thin. Charging range is a few centimeters.
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5-8mm is the range for the charger to receiver for most systems. I have a UAG cover on mine and it works on both chargers I have. The 1-2mm the receiver bulged out made my UAG case crack though. Case still works at protecting the phone so I'm not too worried as I'll probably be upgrading soon (S5?).
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I have an S3 that I just converted to wireless charging. I see the same behavior of connecting / disconnecting when fully charged. The display is like a strobe light.
Are you saying that even with the TYLT VU the S3 still had this behavior?
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Yes. If you follow the link from compro01, you'll see the charging base that works with it and it will work as it should. It's compact so it's also good for travelling. I got mine from eBay for $24 shipped. It came in a full retail package with a micro usb cable.
OK I wanting a tough case, something on the lines of the "Otterbox Defender" or "Ballistic Tough Jacket" (open to other suggestions as well, so feel free to suggest some others) but I’m also wanting to match this with some kind of wireless charger, from my current reading the LG one i think model is WCD-100 only has a single coil and so phone has to sit in a perfect place, also with a single coil I’m wondering if the charge will even get through, but i have also read the standard QI ones have a triple coil and do not require phone to be in perfect place for charging, and i'm also wondering if triple coil will be better at getting though the tough case, I have ruled out metal backed tough cases as i presume not current would get through, I need my stand to be in black, White just would not go on my desk.
I am a bit of a newbie here so please bear with me but welcome any and all feedback and suggestions.
All1
There is a user on Google+ that added a wireless charging sticker to the inside of his Zerolemon case. I haven't seen pictures of how he did it, but he says wireless charging and NFC both work.
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Otterbox defender case does work with wireless charging atleast on the int. version of the phone.
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Thanks for the replies guys, sorry for the delay in getting back to you but i have been waiting for my Nokia DT-910 to come through (which it did today) and sorry to say it would not work with my phone, I have the UK version of the phone which has wireless built in but when Otterbox was on it would only charge on slow, but when i took the whole case if it done fast charge with no issues, so i'll knock the Nokia on the head and keep looking for another charger that may be suitable.
All1
arttuh said:
Otterbox defender case does work with wireless charging atleast on the int. version of the phone.
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Bought a Nokia DT-910 and it failed to charge my UK version of the G3 which comes with built in QI, oh well i have ordered a load more from Amazon which should be here today sometime so i will play with them, see how i get on
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I dunno what nokias qi charger i was using, i was curious about it working on this phone, maybe one wich would work with lumia 800 would work i quess.
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Well i have been using the Otterbox Defender for a while now and cannot find a single charger that works 100%, best i have found is something called "Tylt Vu" and that only charges in landscape format and has to be 100% spot on inplace to fast scharge so i'm looking at getting a new case that is not so think, would be nice if LG done a list of cases that would work with wireless chargers.
All1