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[Q] I just rooted HTC EVO, now What

Hello,
I am a rookie in android world, i just rooted my HTC EVO with 2.2. I was wondering if some can tell me the benefits of rooting the device and tips and tricks
thanks

I wonder why would you root your phone and have not one clue on what it does or what you can do with it. And if you rooted your phone obviously you know how to look through a forum.. also you should do nand unlock also.
Anyways. Things like over, underclock, use 3rd party apps, use apps that have to have root in order to use. That's some. There is a search button that helps out alot unless you are using the app for xda then use Google. Also if you read through topics if mostly on topics when rooted. Also custom roms and kernels.
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Please provide some helpful guidelines instead of criticism

Yeah that was putting it lightly. People are going to flame you for posting something you can learn by just reading a few posts in each thread.. or going to back out and nit even give you 10 seconds of their life because you fail to read or search on a topic that makes this forum. If it wasn't for rooting and all the other stuff that comes with it. And I gave you some info. I don't feel like searching everything for you and posting the link.
Edit: helpful guidelines... search button and Google are very helpful. Serious and all, spend a hour on here in the forums and you will answer the questions on your post. I was new on here when I got my evo. I rooted because I heard what you can do. Not because I heard about root and had no clue. If you Google there are yahoo topics asking this and fully explains. Wiki fully in detail explains this. So many other websites and forums have the info you want. I'm not trying to sound rude here and people might take it as rude. You will probably here 10 times from people about the search button after hearing it from me.
Edit again. There isn't really any guidelines after root. Depends what you want to do after. Use apps that use root, use a custom rom or kernel, or theme and customize everything... well almost everything..
If I could post links to the info I prob would.. but can't..
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The main thing after rooting and nand unlock is to be able to use custom roms and kernels. There are 2 types. Sense and senseless roms. Senseless roms are called asop. Cm6 is a rom that has no sense in it at all.
You can use setcpu which is a paid app in the market to overclock or underclock. You need a custom kernel and sometimes with stock kernel you can overclock. You don't need a custom kernel to underclock. Also there are many thing implemented in kernels to help your phone run faster or use less battery. Read all kernels. Some kernels can only run on sense or asop roms.
You can change most stuff on your phone. When you turn phone on you have the splash screen which is the first thing on. Then you have bootscreen. Both can be changed. You can change the icons with an app in the market but forgot the name of it.
There are different launchers. Launcher pro and adw launcher.
Each has there own pros and cons.
You can change keyboards... like swype and Droid x keyboard or ones in market.
Most of the icons on the status bar can be changed. There are themes that theme everything on your phone..
So much more.. you can spend hours on here and find new stuff to do. You will probably put a custom rom on and kernel and there almost all of them or enough and find one that suites your needs...
Hope this helps better.. I'm bored at home while girlfriend is at the bar..
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Thanks now for the help. Any special Rom thats the besy?
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Depends on what you are looking for... every rom is different. They all look different.. and some take out gapps (Google apps) and sprint apps.. just try one first to learn how to flash a rom and understand how to do that. Then just read up on roms and find one that suites you..
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ken101 said:
Thanks now for the help. Any special Rom thats the besy?
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It's really up to personal choice. Just make sure that you back up your phone and that you have NAND unlocked.

How do I figure out if I have nand unlocked, what's the good software that I can use to backup my phone
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There is lots of information on the xda website a good place to start is http://tinyurl.com/25tc3xr

ken101 said:
Please provide some helpful guidelines instead of criticism
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hehe... let's see if I got this right.
You rooted your phone
After rooting your phone, you're asking what you can do with it now
marty responds and thinks it's a little strange why a person would root his phone and then ask what benefit it was, to do so, he also includes some benefits of rooting, then follows it up with some helpful advice on how to use the search to find answers here
You respond by telling him to FU with the criticism, and give him "real answers"
This world never fails to amaze me.
Common Sense 101 (you got that in your nym, but sadly, nowhere else) is you READ about what rooting is, what bad things could happen if you do it, what advantages and disadvantages there are, how dangerous it is to do so, how hard it is, the success/failure rate of it, the different methods of doing it.. You do all this READING.......
BEFORE YOU ROOT YOUR PHONE!!!!
Would you not agree, that would be a more sensible approach?
Granted, it's too late now, but maybe you could use that approach in the future?
This is not criticism, this is a HELPFUL GUIDELINE

I got your back
Wow Deja vu you are me a few months ago. Well I think I will help you out a little bit.
Rooting does two things. First, it gives you su binaries and a supeuser app that let you access your phone's operating system to make small changes and use apps that could harm the phone over a long time and/or save you moneeeeey! Second, it lets you install a custom recovery. Recovery mode is a tool that lets your phone update itself and, in a total system crash, recovery itself. A cutoff recovery can make the phone think it is being updated or recovered, but is actually being totally changed.
NAND unlocking lets you make major changes to the operating system that you couldn't do otherwise by removing all security (from you, not from hackers) and letting you install asop and other stuff.
Once you get a custom recovery, you can flash (falsely update with a read only zip file) a rom. These rooms can have small or large changes depending on personal preference. You can add themes to these rooms the same way, and change kernels, as well as installing root only apps.
Remember, before you flash anything ALWAYS make a nandroid backup in recovery mode, so if your phone is totally wrecked from the inside, you can fix it. There is no other way to fix it if you mess something up.
You're welcome.

Some Information 4u
Why can't you guys just answer his F'in question, a$$holes.
ken101, some thoughts.
Try these links to get more information.
http://smarterware.org/3189/why-and-how-to-root-your-android-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
the procedure I followed to root my stock 2.2 EVO, basically you downgrade to 2.1, install unrevoke, upgrade to 2.2.
Here is a good one that goes through all the steps. NOTE: YOU WILL NOT FOLLOW this for your phone, but it gives you an idea of what you next steps are.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5214290
From the link above, research every step, so you learn the pros/cons. For example, why wipe my phone, do I need to, does the custom rom require it, what does wiping do.
AND remember, BACKUP FIRST, BACKUP FIRST, should I say that again.
When you rooted your phone, you installed a Recovery Mod, you should via SuperUser be able to boot into it. There is a feature called NANDROID, use it to backup your system and apps before you do anything else. You will then be able to use the same procedure to restore if you do something that breaks your phone (breaks as in the system), going forward.
Good Look Chief, sounds like you are on your way. One last, google search "best roms for Evo", see what you come up with, I think there are 6 or 7 good custom roms out there now for the EVO, make sure they are ready for 2.2, but anyway, investigate the pro/cons of each rom before going forward.
Cya..

Thanks a lot you guys, you guys helped a lot!
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Best roms
Honestly, cyanogen is too unstable and you lose too much. It is very widely respected, but I do prefer ava v7 froyo. It has the battery life of fresh, and some great visual and app enhancements. Choose wisely. And, I cannot say it enough, NANDROID BACKUP! ! !

IDK how someone who actually had the patience to ROOT stock 2.2 (which looks very much like a pain in the ass to me!) is so clueless after having just completed that task? Wouldn't you have a few ideas in mind before you rooted your phone?

Thanks for the nice remarks. The reason I didn't look ahead because I wanted to see if I can root it or not. Once I was able to next step was to do creative stuff with it.
I hope you r satisfied
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I just ate a snickers bar, I feel very satisfied right now...

rcbarr said:
Why can't you guys just answer his F'in question, a$$holes.
ken101, some thoughts.
Try these links to get more information.
http://smarterware.org/3189/why-and-how-to-root-your-android-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
the procedure I followed to root my stock 2.2 EVO, basically you downgrade to 2.1, install unrevoke, upgrade to 2.2.
Here is a good one that goes through all the steps. NOTE: YOU WILL NOT FOLLOW this for your phone, but it gives you an idea of what you next steps are.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5214290
From the link above, research every step, so you learn the pros/cons. For example, why wipe my phone, do I need to, does the custom rom require it, what does wiping do.
AND remember, BACKUP FIRST, BACKUP FIRST, should I say that again.
When you rooted your phone, you installed a Recovery Mod, you should via SuperUser be able to boot into it. There is a feature called NANDROID, use it to backup your system and apps before you do anything else. You will then be able to use the same procedure to restore if you do something that breaks your phone (breaks as in the system), going forward.
Good Look Chief, sounds like you are on your way. One last, google search "best roms for Evo", see what you come up with, I think there are 6 or 7 good custom roms out there now for the EVO, make sure they are ready for 2.2, but anyway, investigate the pro/cons of each rom before going forward.
Cya..
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Good Hearted & Understanding... STAY THAT WAY!

quick question ken 101, your evo came android 2.2 stock? before you rooted it

Just unlocked bootloader (S-ON) Some help please

I would apreciate some help here as i got really confused.
I just unlocked my bootloader from HTCDev just to discover that I cannot install custom recovery, I cannot have root access and there are no recent custom ROMs to install (I need a stable one but recent, not older than mine - 2.3.5)
Could you help me by answering, what's the point of unlocking bootloader if I can't have the above?
I need to use sdcard for apps but for this, Root is required which is not able.
I need custom ROM (if there is one which is fine tuned with better performance, battery, and lighter)
I need to use apps that need root access, i.e titanium backup, etc. how can I use them without root?

So is this forum really dead? I remember it was more alive a few months ago.
I'm abandoning my efforts since I have to recover the phone back to normal use but it's a pitty that things are like that here.

First things first........as a senior member you should know well to post questions in the General section ONLY
Second..... if you have unlocked the bootloader correctly(i know you might have done that), root via Doomlord's easy root kit....
As far as the recovery is concerned...use Rom manager..... it's the easiest way
And the "aliveness" of the forum is quite well as compared to other fora...... the other mid-range phones may have more roms but a majority of them are PURE KITCHEN WORK while others have a little framework changes in CM7..... so there's no extra choice as compared to our phones.....
If you want good roms, mindhaxer/einstein.frat's(they both are the same) roms are good sense ones
Or you can try CM7 or CM9 if you are an AOSP fan
I hope this long post is the answer to all your points in your 2 posts

First of all, thanks for answering.
Second, even if I posted in Q&A, I don't believe I would get any different answers and,
third and most important, I have done my reasearch thoroughly but couldn't find this part you mentioned anywhere so I was trying to gain root with many other methods like super tool, etc. Now, if those guides are not stickies how could I possibly know where to find those steps? they were not even in the first 4-5 pages of the WFS forum.
Yes as a senior member I decided it would be wiser to post here in order to have better chances but maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, I have to thank you again because you guided me to find the DooMLoRD package which wasn't mentioned anywhere else and now in a few minutes I managed to root the phone which I abandoned a few hours ago.
I still insist though that this info must be gathered here as sticky otherwise new comers will always be confused and need years to manage something which in other forums is managed in minutes.

andreasy said:
First of all, thanks for answering.
Second, even if I posted in Q&A, I don't believe I would get any different answers and,
third and most important, I have done my reasearch thoroughly but couldn't find this part you mentioned anywhere so I was trying to gain root with many other methods like super tool, etc. Now, if those guides are not stickies how could I possibly know where to find those steps? they were not even in the first 4-5 pages of the WFS forum.
Yes as a senior member I decided it would be wiser to post here in order to have better chances but maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, I have to thank you again because you guided me to find the DooMLoRD package which wasn't mentioned anywhere else and now in a few minutes I managed to root the phone which I abandoned a few hours ago.
I still insist though that this info must be gathered here as sticky otherwise new comers will always be confused and need years to manage something which in other forums is managed in minutes.
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I agree with you I've been trying to figure out the rooting of this phone for the past two hours, I never bother posting for help as you always get scolded and people say duh use search which is really helpful.
I did I didn't find the answers. this forum is a bit of a mess tbh compared to the onex forum..

Cynabal said:
I agree with you I've been trying to figure out the rooting of this phone for the past two hours, I never bother posting for help as you always get scolded and people say duh use search which is really helpful.
I did I didn't find the answers. this forum is a bit of a mess tbh compared to the onex forum..
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If you need any help from here just let me know. I have already root on my phone and it's quite easy once you have all the steps in hand.

Cynabal said:
I agree with you I've been trying to figure out the rooting of this phone for the past two hours, I never bother posting for help as you always get scolded and people say duh use search which is really helpful.
I did I didn't find the answers. this forum is a bit of a mess tbh compared to the onex forum..
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I went from complete noob to unlocking, installing cwm and then a custom rom by doing a lot of reading in xda and other forums. The info is all there!
You expect to spend 2hrs reading and know how to root, you need to spend more time learning, and the more time time you spend the less chance of messing it up.
I spent a lot more than 2hrs and all went fine and I've never had a problem.
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andreasy said:
First of all, thanks for answering.
Second, even if I posted in Q&A, I don't believe I would get any different answers and,
third and most important, I have done my reasearch thoroughly but couldn't find this part you mentioned anywhere so I was trying to gain root with many other methods like super tool, etc. Now, if those guides are not stickies how could I possibly know where to find those steps? they were not even in the first 4-5 pages of the WFS forum.
Yes as a senior member I decided it would be wiser to post here in order to have better chances but maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, I have to thank you again because you guided me to find the DooMLoRD package which wasn't mentioned anywhere else and now in a few minutes I managed to root the phone which I abandoned a few hours ago.
I still insist though that this info must be gathered here as sticky otherwise new comers will always be confused and need years to manage something which in other forums is managed in minutes.
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Its not about getting an answer to your question. Its about keeping this section clutter free. Its the development section for a reason, and I'm mighty sure I'm not seeing a custom ROM in this thread.
So follow the rules and post in General or Q&A next time.
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Ok I see. Now I have 2 options: reply or shut up and leave. I'll do both.
Firstly I apologise for intentionally posting in the wrong thread (I had my reasons). I won't do it again, actually I won't post anything here again as that was a one time task for me.
Second, I see that you are ready and willing to give me lessons and increase your thanks meter between each other but before teaching me how much time of reading is necessary before you root, let me tell you that I was in xda long before you and I know very well both how much reading is necessary but I also know what the spirit of a community is. There are mods here who didn't get irritated as fast as you. From the speed of your answers I recognise that you must not be older than 25 which doesn't make you mature so @scott_doyland, your opinion is accepted but I was a noob on 2005 and I have performed the root procedure on more than 6-7 phones just by reading so I've done my homework plenty of times and you know what? You don't need 2 hours to root a phone. Actually I need about 30 minutes max including the reading I do on the instructions of each phone. Only on this forum I didn't find all the info gathered and before you jump answering on that, I'm not complaining about this but that's the reason I posted in order to get an answer and avoid the research of 200 pages. It's you guys that got inflamed about that. So take a lesson from a veteran who broke the rules. The idea of the community is to help each other even if the answer was given several times. Some people may not have the time to read or maybe they have read tons of info on other forums and they are visitors like me and can't spent the same amount of time in all forums for each phone they have to root. I'm adraid that if you can't accept this, you are also breaking the rules. Do you see my thanks meter? well, not even one of those thanks was taken from posts like yours. Every single thanks I got was from help providing to noobs and to people who didn't do their homework. Maybe you should visit some forums in the DHD section and see what the spirit of community is all about.
I'm sorry for disturbing the calm waters of your forum but you won't see me again anyway. As I said, I spent many hours on other forums of xda, that was a one time stop for me because I had to root this phone and leave and since this forum doesn't have the most friendly structure in regards to info availability (stickies, etc.) I had to ask. I apologised for posting in wrong thread but I also had to pass the message that people willing to become teachers will have to become students, that's why I answered
Now, go ahead, feel free to start attacking and exchanging thanks between each other. You see, I contributed to your community in my own way. Many of you will double their thanks meters by tomorrow. I don't have the time to continue discussion, I have other things to do so, mods, please feel free and delete this post at some point since it doesn't lead anywhere but just take my feedback if you want and organise better the structure of your forum (if you want).

Ok bro. I have a S-ON, Unlocked Bootloader just like you. There are no way to root after u unlocked bootloader (because u need to update to lastest Hboot in order to UBL). I'd tried all tools i can find on xda and NONE of them can be use to root. There also don't have any clear guide for S-ON with UBL show how to install custom rom and get root.
But after few days digging up the forum, i'd managed to install custom rom + root. I share with you:
After your phone bootloader unlocked via HTCdev, your phone sure will have either HBOOT-1.08.0099 or HBOOT-1.09.0099. You'll need a ClockworkMod recovery image on your computer to install rom + root. And you'll need a working Android SDK with Fastboot to do get ClockworkMod working on ur S-ON phone.
OK let's say now you have fastboot folder alr, and know how to use it.
1. Download lastest clockwork mod .img here: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
2. put the file .img just downloaded to the fastboot folder.
3. Turn off phone, then hold volume down + power ---> wait the menu searching for the zip file (of course we ignore this) then press Power again to go to fastboot menu.
4. connect phone to laptop via usb cable.
5. Open fastboot folder, right click choose open command windows here.
5a. If you are on HBOOT-1.08.0099:
Copy this and right click to the command windows, paste then enter, ur phone will automatic restart to CWM menu:
Code:
fastboot -c "mtdparts=msm_nand:[email protected](misc),[email protected](recovery),[email protected](boot),[email protected](system),[email protected](cache),[email protected](userdata),[email protected](devlog),[email protected](hboot)" boot recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.8-marvel.img
5b. If you are on HBOOT-1.09.0099:
Copy this and right click to the command windows, paste then enter, ur phone will automatic restart to CWM menu:
Code:
fastboot -c "mtdparts=msm_nand:[email protected](misc),[email protected](recovery),[email protected](boot),[email protected](system),[email protected](cache),[email protected](userdata),[email protected](devlog),[email protected](hboot)" boot recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.8-marvel.img
Ok men, now u just download any rom u like, put it to ur memory card and flash rom like normal.
Remember that, everytime u flash new rom, u need to repeat the whole process from step 3 to step 5.
Hope this can help you bro. Cheers for our S-ON
BIG THANKS to this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374926
Dear guy, your topic not yet help me to S-OFF my phone, but it gave me the temporary solution to install custom rom. Cheers to ur good work!!!
P/S: to the thread creator: Why u gave up so early bro...Xda-developers is great forum.

Ok, because many people are confused and PM me about what's next after unlock, here's the answer. Don't try the Super Tool, it doesn't work. At least for some people.
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
and use that script instead. It will flash Busybox and su to your phone. That's it. You have root acces then.
@Ghekua: If you have unlocked your bootloader then you have already installed the apropriate HBOOT. Just run that script from the post I attached above and you will have root access.
Edit: Oh, sorry, I read your post before edit and got different meaning. Anyway, thanks, I used the post above which is much faster and easier and I'm done.

Ghekua, if you install a custom rom it will already have root access, no need to root a custom rom.
I rooted my stock rom just by flashing cwm and then via cwm flashed a root.zip file from xda.
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i know it bro haha. I just post the post there. But i wonder if there is any chance to keep the CWM for S-On so everytime we flash a new rom, we no need to flash CWM again.

ghekua said:
i know it bro haha. I just post the post there. But i wonder if there is any chance to keep the CWM for S-On so everytime we flash a new rom, we no need to flash CWM again.
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Flashing a new rom does not wipe cwm.
Cwm is always there unless you flash a different 'recovery'.
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...this is why people keep asking questions here. Please stop responding to these. Pleaseee?
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scott_doyland said:
Flashing a new rom does not wipe cwm.
Cwm is always there unless you flash a different 'recovery'.
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it's true for S-OFF bro. For S-On every time flash new rom need to fastboot to flash cwm again.
(i'd tried to install cwm by rom manager app, by flashable zip downloaded from clockworkmod website, no use)

I find downloading alquez's recovery and replacing the android_info file with the last RUU/update [of same], then flashing via hboot to be the simplest solution [since it works on marvel & marvelc].. I just keep that PG76IMG.zip on my sdcard and swapout android_info as needed [no need to sign or anything]. Of course then if you wanted latest-and-greatest [gsm] you'd root [Heritz guide works across board gsm & cdma], install your Rom Manager and reflash. But I like simple solution that works on both my wildfire s's
I do agree this is a general topic and if anyone has read my simplistic thread responses, I've stated above philosophy repeatedly in various threads.. and it seems to always work
Rob
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ghekua said:
it's true for S-OFF bro. For S-On every time flash new rom need to fastboot to flash cwm again.
(i'd tried to install cwm by rom manager app, by flashable zip downloaded from clockworkmod website, no use)
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How strange. I'm s-on and I never have to reflash CWM. I've only ever flashed it twice and the second time was just to upgrade to a later CWM.
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[Walkthrough] Samsung Galaxy S3 i747M CM10

its sad this place has "developers" in the title
You know what, I have gone ahead and removed the guide. Not because of your (Radeon_X) input, but because the thread started with a discussion between the two of us that was unrelated to the topic
Not quite sure why you felt the need to react in a public forum like a teenager who discovered a keyboard for the first time. Regardless, it was pretty rude and a I really hope you dont respond in that fashion when discussing things in real life.
Anyway, I do believe you on the "thats what xda developers has come to" and I also believe you voicing your opinions as being the only factual process as one of the reasons this place is what it is. That being said, I am closing the door on what I once thought was a group of educated individuals, with reasonable intelligence, and a willingness to pass on knowledge and gain knowledge from others.
Hopefully those of you here that have knowledge and want a reasonable place to collaborate with others will piece together what I now know is wrong with this site and move on to build a forum of your own, where real DEVELOPERS can go, not just those who thrive on using what has already been developed.
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So this only applies to Rogers? Also, does this have all the Google apps?
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This "guide" is rediculous. If your goal is simply to flash CM10 and you don't care about tripping your flash counter you can start at the "flash clockwork" step 2. No need to flash stock rooted first.
On the other hand, if you don't want to trip your flash counter then you would have to install CWM recovery using the ADB method.

Interesting
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radeon_x said:
This "guide" is rediculous. If your goal is simply to flash CM10 and you don't care about tripping your flash counter you can start at the "flash clockwork" step 2. No need to flash stock rooted first.
On the other hand, if you don't want to trip your flash counter then you would have to install CWM recovery using the ADB method.
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As always, any input is greatly appreciated. With that said, thanks for providing input on the "guide" as you so kindly quoted it.
Please allow me a moment to provide you with the same generous input regarding your post. First off, the guide was made for those intelligent testers who have read as much material as possible on the subject/process prior to attempting it. In your case, I can see that this approach was not understood fully. So please allow me to provide you with some information regarding your flash counter tripping.
This method does in fact trip the flash counter from its default 0 to 1. A simple search would let you know of a tool called TriangleAway available for purchase in Google Play.
I understand some posts and articles warn you of the possibility that your device could be HARD BRICKED using this app, and that is a real possibility. In my personal experience however, the trip counter was reset to 0 by purchasing TriangleAway, allowing it to obtain root permissions and finally, by clicking the "Reset Trip Counter" option within the app. After a quick reboot once it had completed, it trip counter was back to 0 showing Official Binary.
Now for some additional advice to others who may use TriangleAway. If after you reset your trip counter, you are unable to connect to your mobile carrier. Power off the phone, wait 2 minutes, power it up, wait 2 minutes and then within settings select More... and from mobile networks choose Select Automatically.
I hope this is helpful to you or others who have a trip counter concern. Radeon_X, if you have more questions regarding my guide or elements of it, please PM me and I will be more than happy to help explain things a little better just for you.
For anyone looking to search within this form for radeon_x`s posts, remember to spell ridiculous as "rediculous".
I am new to the xda developers forum, but have been reading the posts for a few years. Please believe me when I tell you I have joined with a very stable foundation of knowledge in both web, and handheld development and marketing. I do wish to learn from you all and can only hope I can return the favor. I hope this post by radeon_x does not reflect the future of how my time here will be.
Moving on, I hope this guide is helpful and if not, please PM me and make me aware of how I might be able to improve it.

BrokenBinary said:
First off, the guide was made for those intelligent testers who have read as much material as possible on the subject/process prior to attempting it...
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No. No one who has even read the most cursory information here would choose to do this. You randomly picked some things to do to your phone, that ultimately do end up with CM10 getting installed, but you've done a whole bunch of unnecessary stuff and tripped your flash counter in the process which is also completely unnecessary.
Your post pretty much sums up XDA nowadays though. Everyone's an expert even though they have no real concept of what's going on. It doesn't even sound like you yourself read the basic guides.
The more straightforward and safe way to install CM10 is to follow:
1) Follow steps 1, 2 and 3 from [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter - [ATT / Bell / Telus / Rogers / Sasktel]
2) Download CM10 from http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=d2att to your phone
3) Download gapps from http://goo.im/gapps to your phone
4) Boot into recovery (from power off: hold vol up + home + power until Samsung logo appears)
5) [optional but highly recommended] Do a backup in CWM so you can easily revert to stock if you want to
6) Choose "wipe data/factory reset"
7) Choose "advanced -> wipe dalvik cache"
8) Choose install zip and install the CM10 zip
9) Choose install zip and install the gapps zip
But hey people, feel free to follow this rediculous guide instead. Rediculous I say. Rediculous.

Brokenbinary,
I just want to let you know that not everyone on this forum is rude and on power trips. I thank you for your findings and taking the time to share them with the community. Some people just haven't realized that with rooting there are more than one way to get a desired result, granted certain steps CANNOT be skipped or missed. I have been reading posts for awhile and could not help but thank you for your time and apologize for the bad reaction you got on here. Anyone who feels like they have gotten rude comments on here I just want to let you know that the majority of us here at xda are not like this, it's just the select few that ruin the image. What can you do about it? That's the world we live in.
Have a great week everyone and happy findings!
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I got a SGS3 from Virgin Mobile Canada 2 days ago and tried to follow the guide here.
Since I use Linux or OSX I have no easy access to Odin. I couldn't get Heimdall to work either.
I did find a very nice guide that use a glitch on Android 4.0.4 and doesn't need to use Odin, so the counter is not increased/no triangle:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827518
For Step 5, instead of Clockworkmod recovery you can easily install TeamWin Recovery (which has a better touch UI) using GooManager on the store:
http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/104
I then installed cm10 and it's terribly good!

S3 Rooting

Just wondering, if I was to root my samsung galaxy s3, is there anything bad that could happen such as me not being able to update or my phone just stops working... if you guys could tell me that would be nice because I'm still 50/50 about rooting my phone for a 4.1.2 CMod or just waiting for the official update.

iiLeGiT101 said:
Just wondering, if I was to root my samsung galaxy s3, is there anything bad that could happen such as me not being able to update or my phone just stops working... if you guys could tell me that would be nice because I'm still 50/50 about rooting my phone for a 4.1.2 CMod or just waiting for the official update.
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There are a number of things that could "go wrong" but as long as you follow the correct guide for your phone you should be okay. Keep in mind myself and many others will take no responsibility if your phone is hard/soft bricked. Without knowing what network you are on, unfortunately I cannot locate a guide for you. Use the search feature and read comments before rooting to make sure no one else is experiencing issues, and if they are make sure their are posts that describe how to fix those problems.
Things that COULD go wrong:
1.) Hard Brick (Your phone will not boot. Only way to get it to boot is possibly a USB jig to get to download mode OR a JTAG unit.)
2.) Soft Brick (This can normally be undone following various guides on the forums (use the search tool)
Updating:
You CAN still update and there are some tools that will allow you to keep root through an upgrade, however they are experimental, and may not work. If you update it is very possible you will lose root privileges and you will have to follow the root procedure again.
Also, if you install a custom recovery (I.e. TWRP or CWM) OTA updates may fail.
I hope this was helpful, feel free to ask if you have any further questions. =)

RPelham said:
There are a number of things that could "go wrong" but as long as you follow the correct guide for your phone you should be okay. Keep in mind myself and many others will take no responsibility if your phone is hard/soft bricked. Without knowing what network you are on, unfortunately I cannot locate a guide for you. Use the search feature and read comments before rooting to make sure no one else is experiencing issues, and if they are make sure their are posts that describe how to fix those problems.
Things that COULD go wrong:
1.) Hard Brick (Your phone will not boot. Only way to get it to boot is possibly a USB jig to get to download mode OR a JTAG unit.)
2.) Soft Brick (This can normally be undone following various guides on the forums (use the search tool)
Updating:
You CAN still update and there are some tools that will allow you to keep root through an upgrade, however they are experimental, and may not work. If you update it is very possible you will lose root privileges and you will have to follow the root procedure again.
Also, if you install a custom recovery (I.e. TWRP or CWM) OTA updates may fail.
I hope this was helpful, feel free to ask if you have any further questions. =)
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Well after reading what device you use, did you root your S3 so you could use a "replica" of 4.1.2 jellybean? If so, could you PM me the instructions on how you did it?

I suggest you read all the stickies before even attempting anything.
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Deoxlar said:
I suggest you read all the stickies before even attempting anything.
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I 100% agree, read all stickies first! I rooted because I dislike waiting for manufacturers and networks to come out with the latest and greatest.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
Use this link for rooting. After rooting the phone I found the best recovery, in my own opinion as other people may say differently, is TWRP. You can flash TWRP very easily by downloading Goo Manager from the play store. There is a video on the store explaining the process. Very simple.
I then used Cyanogenmod as my ROM of choice, there are many flavors of ROMs you can use. If you use CM, I recommend sticking to version 10 until the kinks are ironed out of 10.1 if you are new to flashing. You can follow there wiki on instructions to install. =)
If you have any further questions, feel free to ask!
NOTE: you still have not provided what network you are on. Please follow the directions for your network. Using any other network can produce undesirable results potentially bricking your phone or disabling your data.
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RPelham said:
I 100% agree, read all stickies first! I rooted because I dislike waiting for manufacturers and networks to come out with the latest and greatest.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
Use this link for rooting. After rooting the phone I found the best recovery, in my own opinion as other people may say differently, is TWRP. You can flash TWRP very easily by downloading Goo Manager from the play store. There is a video on the store explaining the process. Very simple.
I then used Cyanogenmod as my ROM of choice, there are many flavors of ROMs you can use. If you use CM, I recommend sticking to version 10 until the kinks are ironed out of 10.1 if you are new to flashing. You can follow there wiki on instructions to install. =)
If you have any further questions, feel free to ask!
NOTE: you still have not provided what network you are on. Please follow the directions for your network. Using any other network can produce undesirable results potentially bricking your phone or disabling your data.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app
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When you say what network I'm on, if by that you mean what cell service company I have then it's Simple Mobile. I just have an unlocked AT&T S3.

[Q] Rooting and ROM

Hello, this is the first time posting on this forum and relatively new on the android platform after jumping ship from blackberry. So, i have afew questions i hope you guys can help me with.
1. I heard/read alot regarding rooting to bring out the full potential of an android(s4) phone. What is the full advantage of rooting my phone? How does granting administrative access affect my phone performance?
2. I often see the jargon of bloatware on this forum, what does it exactly mean?
3. What is the function of ROM?
Sorry if these qns are repeated, please direct me to the answer if it is already present in the forum. thanks

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Still confused between Samsung Galaxy S4 and 10 acres of land in London

Rooting your phone gives you access to do anything you want ie (Apps 2 sd) that the phone dosent permit you to do.
A ROM is just a different feel, and its a faster alternative in upgrading your android ios. (S4 has touchwiz, can change it to Htc Sense)
Bloatware is a bunch of unnecessary apps that Carriers know youll never use but have it just cause. Its annoying and it takes up space. Rooting allows you to delete these apps, cause if its not you wont be able to remove it.
I hope this helped, ask again if you have any more questions.
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I was wondering if there is a sort of rooting guide for dummies out there. I want to root my phone to get rid of some of the bloatware that I will never use, and also to delete the annoying start up and shut down sounds. Other than that, I'm happy with Touchwiz so far, but I suppose adding custom themes would be fun.
I rooted my last phone (Samsung Vibrant) over 2yrs ago and don't remember how I did it. I know I installed a custom ROM, but don't remember how to do that either. I remember following a really good guide with pictures and step by step instructions though. It's early days yet with the S4, but I really hope someone will do the same kind of guide because it's very helpful for those of us who like to customize but don't have the time or knowledge to seriously get into it. When I look at some of the threads on rooting it just seems like a foreign language to me!
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mahgnillig said:
I was wondering if there is a sort of rooting guide for dummies out there. I want to root my phone to get rid of some of the bloatware that I will never use, and also to delete the annoying start up and shut down sounds. Other than that, I'm happy with Touchwiz so far, but I suppose adding custom themes would be fun.
I rooted my last phone (Samsung Vibrant) over 2yrs ago and don't remember how I did it. I know I installed a custom ROM, but don't remember how to do that either. I remember following a really good guide with pictures and step by step instructions though. It's early days yet with the S4, but I really hope someone will do the same kind of guide because it's very helpful for those of us who like to customize but don't have the time or knowledge to seriously get into it.
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Try the motochopper method - the guide is pretty simple and self explanatory however if you're on latest kernel then rooting is a no go as of now
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Still confused between Samsung Galaxy S4 and 10 acres of land in London

nikufellow said:
Try the motochopper method - the guide is pretty simple and self explanatory however if you're on latest kernel then rooting is a no go as of now
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Thanks I looked at that and it seems straightforward, but I'm concerned about what to do after the actual root. Things like how to back the phone up in case I mess it up, how to delete things, how to add things. Also I find a lot of the terminology confusing... not quite sure what all the acronyms stand for either, like ODIN or CWM, or what each thing does exactly. This is the kind of thread which would be totally useful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028 (this one is for the Vibrant though, so I think a lot of it would be different on a different device?)
As far as the kernel... as far as I know nothing has been updated. I got the phone on the first day it came out so I'm assuming it doesn't have the latest kernel. How would you find out? Not even sure what the kernel is or what it does :\ I would like to find out though!

^^^then you might be on an earlier kernel version anyway trying to root by motochopper method won't brick your device even if it doesn't go successful so no worries.
ODIN is the same software that service centres use to revive your bricked device - as a matter of fact with Samsung drivers, a usb cable and stock rom downloaded from online sources like sammobile, you can revert almost any instances of soft brick. Simply saying ODIN will flash back factory/stock rom anfd make your device as it was when you bought it. And yeah flashing via ODIN and all are more or less same procedure for all Samsung devices
Cwm is a custom recovery. If you don't know what recovery means it might be worth googling for better understanding the concept as even my knowledge is limited and my explanations might fall short of your expectations
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with regards to rooting my s4 which is running on 4.2.2 jellybean, does motochopper actually brick my phone? In addition, can i root my phone to remove the bloatwares and afterwhich, unroot my phone again, with all the bloatwares already permanently removed? Is it possible to download the full list of softwares of the s4 online such that if i accidentally remove an important software, i will be able to restore it. As I am someone who is not into very much customization and over-clocking, i believe i dont need my phone rooted for custom ROM right? I can use stock ROM when my phone is unrooted and clear of bloatware?

Mami-dalous said:
with regards to rooting my s4 which is running on 4.2.2 jellybean, does motochopper actually brick my phone? In addition, can i root my phone to remove the bloatwares and afterwhich, unroot my phone again, with all the bloatwares already permanently removed? Is it possible to download the full list of softwares of the s4 online such that if i accidentally remove an important software, i will be able to restore it. As I am someone who is not into very much customization and over-clocking, i believe i dont need my phone rooted for custom ROM right? I can use stock ROM when my phone is unrooted and clear of bloatware?
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Steps
#1. Locate GS4 box, place phone inside box.
#2. Return to store and get iPhone.
Serious tho. Best thing you can do is READ. SEARCH and READ. SEARCH and READ.
If you are unsure about something, READ again. Most questions have already been asked and answered.
If you find yourself lost......SEARCH and READ. Believe me this is this most useful advice you will ever get here.
Stuff is so easy now compared to when android 1st started. I remember rooting my G1 on a terminal prompt and installing recovery with wicked long commands. Now everything is automated and the hardest (NOT) part is reading the step by step instructions provided on almost every mod and tweak.
Welcome and goodluck !