Force update check? - Windows Phone 7 Software Development

Is there are anyway to force a marketplace update check? If there is no manual way, would it be possible to make an app to have the marketplace check for updates?
I've searched all over, but never really found a solid answer on this. Thanks for any help!

Krowebar said:
Is there are anyway to force a marketplace update check? If there is no manual way, would it be possible to make an app to have the marketplace check for updates?
I've searched all over, but never really found a solid answer on this. Thanks for any help!
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"Just go in the Marketplace, search for the app, open the description, then back out...wait a second and go back in. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RO50rTb5AeU

Ahh I see. I knew about that lil trick, but it is a lil inconvenient to check several apps with this method. That at least gets the job done though. I was hoping there was a method that would check everything on the phone at once. Not sure how the OS does the app checking, but I've heard it just does it 'periodically". Not sure how often that is, but I have seen where it find updates for certain apps, but it didn't on others when there was an update for it. Kinda strange however it does it's checks.
Would it be possible to make an app that forces the marketplace to do a full check on apps?

Krowebar said:
Ahh I see. I knew about that lil trick, but it is a lil inconvenient to check several apps with this method. That at least gets the job done though. I was hoping there was a method that would check everything on the phone at once. Not sure how the OS does the app checking, but I've heard it just does it 'periodically". Not sure how often that is, but I have seen where it find updates for certain apps, but it didn't on others when there was an update for it. Kinda strange however it does it's checks.
Would it be possible to make an app that forces the marketplace to do a full check on apps?
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Yeah some have said turning wifi on and leaving to charger (this keeps wifi on in some phones?) helps the phone getting updates.
I'm guessing it is not possible to make such app, due to limitations of the platform. But maybe one could make an app which checks the selected apps from marketplace, lets say once in an hour, and then notifies the user if the app has been updated. How this would be better than let the marketplace check for updates? Dunno, maybe in some cases little bit faster, but it would be wasting resources (battery) in my option.
Maybe its just better to let the marketplace check for updates

Thanks for the info/help. I understand what you mean. I guess I'm a lil impatient with certain apps and their frequent updates. So the entire problem here is me.
Does WP8 have the same issue of delayed and overlooked update on certain apps?

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[NEWS] Errant Data usage [Link]

Reading stories like this makes me glad mine is off.
Errant Data Usage
glad i have a 1.5GB plan. though i never see it chew up much. but aye, it's a good course to make MS do another update if they don't fix it with the feb patch.
I have a suspicion that this is just another thing the press have jumped on to attack Microsoft. I don't think it is a large scale issue or we would have heard about it before now in these forums.
well to be honest it has been noted around here in a few threads before, and most of us believe it comes from the feedback system in the phone. i think just having it so that it only sends data when connected to wifi will automatically resolve it.
but aye, wait for MS to do their investigations. i'm sure if they just "bing" it, they'll find our posts and say that is their solution as well
randude said:
I have a suspicion that this is just another thing the press have jumped on to attack Microsoft. I don't think it is a large scale issue or we would have heard about it before now in these forums.
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A lot of people report high battery consumption with WP7 devices. This could be the reason.
randude said:
I have a suspicion that this is just another thing the press have jumped on to attack Microsoft. I don't think it is a large scale issue or we would have heard about it before now in these forums.
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MS has acknowledged the fact and looking into the resolution, so I don't think it is some mumbo-jumbo.
The Gate Keeper said:
well to be honest it has been noted around here in a few threads before, and most of us believe it comes from the feedback system in the phone. i think just having it so that it only sends data when connected to wifi will automatically resolve it.
but aye, wait for MS to do their investigations. i'm sure if they just "bing" it, they'll find our posts and say that is their solution as well
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This is a workaround and not a solution, I am pretty sure they want to solve it rather than telling the users to disable the feature.
lqaddict said:
This is a workaround and not a solution, I am pretty sure they want to solve it rather than telling the users to disable the feature.
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yea i agree. but i'm just saying that MS could propose it as a temporary work around if it is indeed the cause of the issue, until they fix it in an update.
I have a suspicion this is a 3rd party app issue, as it's not everyone who's having this problem... Could still be the OS, of course.
CreepinJesus said:
I have a suspicion this is a 3rd party app issue, as it's not everyone who's having this problem... Could still be the OS, of course.
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Uncertain about everyone having the issue. In all likelihood it could well be a majority. How would anyone know how much data they were using unless they studied the statement or had a monitor installed? Most people might not be aware of it at all and unconcerned.
MartyLK said:
Uncertain about everyone having the issue. In all likelihood it could well be a majority. How would anyone know how much data they were using unless they studied the statement or had a monitor installed? Most people might not be aware of it at all and unconcerned.
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Most people have limited cap on 3G data, so it's not that difficult to realize whether your phone is abusing your monthly plan or not.
Actually, from the comments at engadget and other blogs, it does seem that the vast majority of users are not affected by the issue. And I've never heard a single one in Italy affected as well. So it maybe a carrier-specific problem, or a 3rd party app available on certain markets/networks.
Or there might not be an issue at all, the high data consumption being just caused by applications running under the lockscreen in standby (so that wifi goes off and 3g kicks in).
MartyLK said:
Uncertain about everyone having the issue. In all likelihood it could well be a majority. How would anyone know how much data they were using unless they studied the statement or had a monitor installed? Most people might not be aware of it at all and unconcerned.
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True... I know I'm ok because I have checked my online statement thing and I've only used a couple of MB so far this month.
Feedback Function? i dont think so.......
One thing that has NEVER been talked about is another new function.......
Location!
You all know that via windowslive we can locate our phones, erase them, block them ect.
Well this function is on by default.
I guess to find out where it is, (its regularly saving its current location on windows live) It has to send some kind of info to Microsoft.
Now i dont think to save location info would need Mbs of data, but who knows?
Since the feedback option is (proven? because deactivated by some? anybody?) not the problem, and the find my phone service is not mentioned, i would look into that........
SPVlover said:
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I guess to find out where it is, (its regularly saving its current location on windows live) It has to send some kind of info to Microsoft.
Now i dont think to save location info would need Mbs of data, but who knows?
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That depends how often it's sending location info, and whether it's using AGPS. I don't know the details... Mine is turned off anyway.
SPVlover said:
One thing that has NEVER been talked about is another new function.......
Location!
You all know that via windowslive we can locate our phones, erase them, block them ect.
Well this function is on by default.
I guess to find out where it is, (its regularly saving its current location on windows live) It has to send some kind of info to Microsoft.
Now i dont think to save location info would need Mbs of data, but who knows?
Since the feedback option is (proven? because deactivated by some? anybody?) not the problem, and the find my phone service is not mentioned, i would look into that........
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Location is switched on on my phone and I haven't noticed any large data usage.
I am not getting extra data usage when I'm not using my phone it's only about 5k every now and then when it checks email but Saturday I was at the NEC and used IE a lot and wow it ate data!!! I used nearly 30mb just on general surfing, my old Blackberry Storm 2 on the same type of use would have been about 5mb!!!! so why is the phone using so much data when I was just surfing?
alan1467 said:
I am not getting extra data usage when I'm not using my phone it's only about 5k every now and then when it checks email but Saturday I was at the NEC and used IE a lot and wow it ate data!!! I used nearly 30mb just on general surfing, my old Blackberry Storm 2 on the same type of use would have been about 5mb!!!! so why is the phone using so much data when I was just surfing?
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Do you have it on mobile viewing, or desktop viewing? Remember that other phones searched from Google used to limit the viewing for mobile devices. Google would reformat them. Bing doesn't do that, especially if you have it browse as if you're using a desktop.
I have location services on all the time, as well as 3G. The phone uses probably 5MB/day along with my emails, and some MSN. Location services is not the problem, and I lock and find my phone everyday to make sure it's working Yes, I'm over protective.
It's a 3rd party app or feedback.
I've had all location services and features turned on except Feedback since October and have barely been using 50MB a month, which includes downloading games and Apps from Marketplace.
Could be the feedback feature i suppose, i've recently turned mine on but disabled the option to send via GPRS so it won't make a difference i guess.
I've had all location services and features turned on except Feedback since October and have barely been using 50MB a month, which includes downloading a couple of games and Apps from Marketplace.
Could be the feedback feature i suppose, i've recently turned mine on but disabled the option to send via GPRS so it won't make a difference i guess.
bmazloum said:
Do you have it on mobile viewing, or desktop viewing? Remember that other phones searched from Google used to limit the viewing for mobile devices. Google would reformat them. Bing doesn't do that, especially if you have it browse as if you're using a desktop.
I have location services on all the time, as well as 3G. The phone uses probably 5MB/day along with my emails, and some MSN. Location services is not the problem, and I lock and find my phone everyday to make sure it's working Yes, I'm over protective.
It's a 3rd party app or feedback.
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Yes I have it in desktop view do you think that could be it?

[Q] Need urgent help - I believe I have a virus that clones your phone

Hey, well yesterday I got a notification saying "supercharge UR battery". I was pretty sceptical but I clicked on it not realising it would go to a website and apparently that website then downloads and installs something automatically that allows them to clone your contact etc, even your IMEI and they can put your number to go through premium calls to get money out of you.
Either way I need to know how to get rid of this. It's just come up again so I'm presuming it didn't install properly for them or something. It came just after I updated all my apps yesterday but I don't know which one would have caused it.
Do we think a full wipe and reinstall might do it?
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shocker that AVG antivirus didn't find anything. I've been looking through my apps, deleted some I don't use but none of them stand out as being dodgy, I don't even have many.
What makes you think it's cloning your device?
Are you sure it's not just a push notification advert, from something like airpush?
Remove all recent apps that you've installed since you started getting them, and when they stop install them one by one, seeing if they cause the notifications. Check all permissions very carefully.
If you are seriously worried, full wipe and start again but there shouldn't be a need for that.
That sounds slightly unlikely; not that there's malware out there that can do that sort of thing (there is), but that you can acquire it simply by visiting a site and somehow bypassing all the usual application access authorisations. All the instances I've heard of require an app to be installed (and access granted) which then runs off and does all this in the background. So if you could post your source for that it would be a great help.
(As to the "supercharge your battery" ad, I've definitely seen that somewhere recently as well, but I can't think where. In an app, but I'm struggling to think what it could have been. I just ignored it as per any other ad that sneaks past the hosts file).
If you're really worried then a full wipe would get rid of anything actually on your phone, but I'm not yet convinced that's necessary.
Edit: just noticed you said "notification" not "ad". Try downloading something like Airpush Detector from the market; sounds like you've got an app using Airpush to show ads in your notification area. Again, that's not necessarily something to be particularly concerned about (irritating though it is).
Edit2: curses, beaten to it while I was writing all this on my phone. Must learn to be more concise.
//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.
Well I've been going through my apps and there isn't a single one in there that you would ever consider to be dodgy as I just stick to the main ones. I don't bother downloading games or anything like that.
Surely if it's just an ad I'd be able to find said app on the market place, but I can't. In fact google finds nothing for "supercharge UR battery".
I'll try airpush detector. Cheers.
Ok so airpush detector says:
Mysettings
jqsoft.apps.mysettings
Checked out the app on the market and turns out the update added airpush to it. Way to kill your market. I guess they want people to go "pro".
Cheers guys!

Smart Device Manager

Last night I noticed Play asking me to update an app called Smart Device Manager. Having no idea what the app was, or why it was on my phone, I read the description:
OVERVIEW
Smart Device Manager is an app that runs on the “child” phone in order to power two family safety services on the Sprint Network, Drive First and Mobile Controls. These services allow parents to automatically lock a phone when driving or to prevent phone usage during school hours.
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With a bit more searching, it looks like it's a background utility that comes preinstalled on our phones. It's a helper for parental controls to manage what your children (or employees, I suppose) are doing, as well as lock your phone when you're driving to discourage talking or texting while driving. Accomplishing this requires some pretty nasty permissions. Granted, it's obviously not CIQ, and it shouldn't be doing anything at all unless you activate and pay for the appropriate services, but I still don't want it on my phone, if for no other reason than it may be using up some juice.
It appears there was some sort of bug with the change to Google Play that prompted many (everyone?) with the app to update it, even though you have no reason to update it unless you're actually using the service(s) (Source). As it's a system app, you can uninstall it with Titanium if you are rooted. I've done so and it hasn't hurt anything thus far.
Just figured I'd let a few people know what was up, in case they get the notification as well. And if it's already common knowledge, *shrug* I guess I wasted a few minutes of my life
interesting...
Just read about this.
http://phandroid.com/2012/03/28/spr...are-to-android-devices-heres-how-to-avoid-it/
Thank goodness for custom roms and their bloatware removal.
What's weird is that I'm running Blazer Rom, have never installed this service and google play is reminding me every day that I need to "upgrade it."
Somehow must have been left in Blazer.....
wotan2525 said:
What's weird is that I'm running Blazer Rom, have never installed this service and google play is reminding me every day that I need to "upgrade it."
Somehow must have been left in Blazer.....
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I think it's a Sprint/Google agreement that is going to show up in our market suggestions no matter what ROM we run, the key is just ignore the suggestion and don't install.
Thanks for the info. I missed this one when I was getting rid of the bloatware. Even if it's not activated on my end, I'd rather not give them one more route of easy access to controlling my device. I suppose it's a good feature for parents/employers, but can you imagine if service providers started shutting down your phone (essentially airplane mode) if your were traveling over a certain speed?
You can delete this from system/app and it will stop alerting you in the market. Its actually labelled smartdevicemamager.apk in system/app.
Edit: Pointless post. Sorry.
When i had this app on it would give me slow data then i disable it and now i have full speeds
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Sycobob said:
Last night I noticed Play asking me to update an app called Smart Device Manager. Having no idea what the app was, or why it was on my phone, I read the description:
With a bit more searching, it looks like it's a background utility that comes preinstalled on our phones. It's a helper for parental controls to manage what your children (or employees, I suppose) are doing, as well as lock your phone when you're driving to discourage talking or texting while driving. Accomplishing this requires some pretty nasty permissions. Granted, it's obviously not CIQ, and it shouldn't be doing anything at all unless you activate and pay for the appropriate services, but I still don't want it on my phone, if for no other reason than it may be using up some juice.
It appears there was some sort of bug with the change to Google Play that prompted many (everyone?) with the app to update it, even though you have no reason to update it unless you're actually using the service(s) (Source). As it's a system app, you can uninstall it with Titanium if you are rooted. I've done so and it hasn't hurt anything thus far.
Just figured I'd let a few people know what was up, in case they get the notification as well. And if it's already common knowledge, *shrug* I guess I wasted a few minutes of my life
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updated it last night as well running blazer 4.0, didn't know what it was just don't like "updates available" popping up on boot
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I just deleted it through titanium backup
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Codename havent ever seen it lol
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More info here:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/87271?start=0&tstart=0
Sprint reps said the service has always been on the phone but the recent Google Play Store update caused the update to show up. Supposedly Location Labs (the company created the software) is looking into why it is showing up as an update....
Link is already in the OP

How to prevent updates on your G4

Root developers are saying don't take the updates. Few people are reporting that the updates made anything better. Don't take the updates if you can help it.
Follow the instructions below, and report back with your phone info (carrier, variant, software version, etc.). Also report if updates were successfully blocked, or if they installed anyway, or if you just get a nag screen. Thanks!
If your phone has already downloaded the update and is trying to install it, follow the advice here. This won't work for AT&T phones because they removed recovery mode.
Start here:
Get debloater (works without root!) and set up your computer so you can run ADB and connect with your phone. You may need to install the LG United Mobile Driver.
Please donate to the Debloater developer, gatesjunior! Debloater has made this so much easier!
There are many packages you can block that will improve the performance and battery life of your phone (see my blocked.txt below), but the packages you want to block that will hopefully prevent updates are:
LGDMSClient.apk (Blocking breaks WiFi calling setup on Sprint only.)
LGUpdateCenter.apk
LGFOTA.apk Two users reported calls going straight to voicemail with this blocked.
LGLDB.apk I don't know if it's related to updates but it seems to be MLT spyware.
Not all carriers will have all these files, but block what you do have and report any problems so I can update this post with what works and what doesn't
Carrier specific files:
Sprint users may want to block:
Sprint_Installer.apk
ItsOnService.apk
ItsOnUID.apk
Tierez reported that blocking the ItsOn files breaks WiFi. They also reported that blocking LGDMSClient.apk broke the WiFi calling setup screen.
Verizon users should block:
VerizonIgnite.apk, It's a post-sale bloatware installer. Thanks alan242!
@JeffXT inadvertently blocked a Verizon file that enabled tethering.
AT&T users should block:
WildTangent.apk
T-Mobile users should block:
AdaptClient.apk
This will break the software update screen in about phone and so far has prevented my phone from trying to update. My AT&T H810 hasn't tried to update and I can't force it to update since I blocked LGDMSClient.apk, but it seems we can't be too safe in preventing forced updates so leave no questionable package unblocked!
Something I also did during setup was to not agree to the optional LG EULA that would have allowed app updating. I've also blocked:
LGStartupEula.apk
LicenseProvider.apk
UnifiedEULA.apk
Don't block LGSystemServer.apk, it breaks notifications and other stuff (LED, sound, and vibration).
Autoprime is listing which software versions are updating the firmware to V1 here.
Good luck!
Don't block LGSystemSetup.apk or LGSetupWizard.apk! You'll need it to run if there phone gets reset. Ignore the blocked.txt file below.
phineous said:
After seeing the mysterious "security enhancements" mentioned in the AT&T release notes on the July 1st update I think it's important to prevent further updates incase they break future rooting methods. Also, why take their update if it's not shown to improve performance? Come on! There's an update to Uber, but no mention of touch screen fixes?!
FIrst, get debloater (works without root!)and set up your computer so you can run ADB and connect with your phone. You may need to install the LG United Mobile Driver.
There's a ton of packages you can block that will improve the performance and battery life of the phone, but the package you want to block to prevent updates is LGDMSClient.apk. This will break the software update screen in about phone and so far has prevented my phone from trying to update.
Good luck!
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Just a quick heads up (might just be me, might be US Cellular in general....I am not sure) I went through and did this after hearing about different companies basically force feeding their clientel these OTA Updates and even though I did it all right down to the letter and did not skip anything my US991 still went ahead and did a forced update to 10c (not sure why or even when it did this, just know that it did at some point).
Hopefully they are not blocking any exploits with this stupid 10c update (which I assume they did as my device was running buttery smooth and had no issues that would have needed an update in order to correct).
Z3ldaFan88 said:
Just a quick heads up (might just be me, might be US Cellular in general....I am not sure) I went through and did this after hearing about different companies basically force feeding their clientel these OTA Updates and even though I did it all right down to the letter and did not skip anything my US991 still went ahead and did a forced update to 10c (not sure why or even when it did this, just know that it did at some point).
Hopefully they are not blocking any exploits with this stupid 10c update (which I assume they did as my device was running buttery smooth and had no issues that would have needed an update in order to correct).
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Sorry to hear it didn't prevent your update.
I've added more files to block, and one to unblock in the OP.
phineous said:
Sorry to hear it didn't prevent your update.
Try blocking LGUpdateCenter.apk also. My AT&T H810 hasn't tried to update and I can't force it to update since I blocked LGDMSClient.apk. Seems we can't be too safe in preventing forced updates so leave no questionable package unblocked!
Something I also did during setup was to not agree to the optional LG EULA that would have allowed app updating. I've also blocked:
LGStartupEula.apk
LicenseProvider.apk
UnifiedEULA.apk
I've attached a Debloater blocked.txt that shows all the packages I've blocked.
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No worries, it just is what it is (yeah I was angry about it, but not like I can do anything about it). I will certainly go through and block the rest of the applications that you mentioned though so hopefully I can prevent any future aggravations caused by these damn self-updates. Thanks for posting how you went about it and letting us know that (so far at least) it is going according to plan.
Holy Cow! I thought T-Mobile was bad with the bloat but jeez....AT&T makes our bloat look like....well, I dunno it's still bloat, but we've got a LOT less of it lol. I use the debloater tool, but UX 4.0 isn't that bad by its self. I removed all the T-Mo stuff and that's about it.
Thanks!
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Holy Cow! I thought T-Mobile was bad with the bloat but jeez....AT&T makes our bloat look like....well, I dunno it's still bloat, but we've got a LOT less of it lol. I use the debloater tool, but UX 4.0 isn't that bad by its self. I removed all the T-Mo stuff and that's about it.
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Did removing the TMobile bloat affect wifi calling?
G4'ed it!
Not at all, less lag and a bit smoother. Battery lasts longer since apps that drain the battery are disabled. Just be smart about what you disable. It has a search feature, so I'll search for say "tmo" any apk or service with that search term in it will show up in the list, disable it and move on to the next apk/service. You dont even need to reboot, you can watch them get disabled in real time.
I just bought my second G4, trying the phone again. It is another Verizon model.
People raised interesting points about holding off on updates, in case it makes root more difficult, so I got the Debloater tool (that is awesome!) and tried to block the items listed in the original post.
With Verizon, I don't see an entry for "LGUpdateCenter.apk", so I could not block that one. I hope the remaining 5 will be enough to keep the update at-bay for now.
phineous, that's an interesting point about the optional LG EULA. I agreed to something from LG during initial setup today, I guess I didn't give any real thought to not agreeing.
I have not yet applied anyone's complete Debloater list, I guess I'm not quite brave enough for that just yet. I only went through and disabled things I could identify and knew I wouldn't need at the moment.
How many apks does the AT&T G4 have? My Tmobile has 273.
Replacing my earlier post, to avoid confusion: Verizon messed up something on my line. After a day, they got it fixed, and now I can use Advanced Calling on my G4, still with the original software (having not gotten the recent update). Everything seems to be working now.
RedOCtobyr said:
Replacing my earlier post, to avoid confusion: Verizon messed up something on my line. After a day, they got it fixed, and now I can use Advanced Calling on my G4, still with the original software (having not gotten the recent update). Everything seems to be working now.
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What's your Baseband Version and Build number? I'm buying the Verizon G4 this Saturday and would like to know if I have the OTA out of the box.
GUGUITOMTG4 said:
How many apks does the AT&T G4 have? My Tmobile has 273.
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I don't remember how many it came with originally, but I've blocked 85 out of a total of 297. I've probably installed about 57. I would guess around 240 originally.
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What's your Baseband Version and Build number? I'm buying the Verizon G4 this Saturday and would like to know if I have the OTA out of the box.
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Don't let the salesperson set up the phone! They seem to delight in downloading updates. I'd keep the phone off or at least disable WiFi till I could connect it to a computer and Debloat it.
Good luck!
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Don't let the salesperson set up the phone! They seem to delight in downloading updates. I'd keep the phone off or at least disable WiFi till I could connect it to a computer and Debloat it.
Good luck!
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Yeah, that's the plan. I'd just like a frame of reference so I know if all my efforts to prevent the OTA work or if I was defeated before I even got the phone.
phineous said:
I don't remember how many it came with originally, but I've blocked 85 out of a total of 297. I've probably installed about 57. I would guess around 240 originally.
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Wow 85 is such a relief I blocked just 34. At least it does not get high temps now.T-mobile seems to add much lesser bloat indeed. My 273 include around 40 downloaded apps.
flamadiddle said:
What's your Baseband Version and Build number? I'm buying the Verizon G4 this Saturday and would like to know if I have the OTA out of the box.
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See attached. I believe the item of interest, relative to the OTA, is the Software Version. The new one (updated) ends in 611A, I think.
They did a brief setup at Best Buy for me. I Factory Reset when I got home, then Debloated the items that would start the update:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/how-to-prevent-updates-g4-t3148650
But it wasn't until the next day, after another Factory Reset, that I forgot to Debloat those immediately, and had turned on the WiFi. I noticed when the update was halfway downloaded. Turned off WiFi, and turned on Airplane Mode, until I was able to Debloat the offending items.
No updates stuff since then, several days ago, even with WiFi on.
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But it wasn't until the next day, after another Factory Reset, that I forgot to Debloat those immediately, and had turned on the WiFi. I noticed when the update was halfway downloaded. Turned off WiFi, and turned on Airplane Mode, until I was able to Debloat the offending items.
No updates stuff since then, several days ago, even with WiFi on.
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Look at how sneaky the carriers are now! It's a good thing the devs are being quiet about their root method.
RedOCtobyr said:
See attached. I believe the item of interest, relative to the OTA, is the Software Version. The new one (updated) ends in 611A, I think.
They did a brief setup at Best Buy for me. I Factory Reset when I got home, then Debloated the items that would start the update:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/how-to-prevent-updates-g4-t3148650
But it wasn't until the next day, after another Factory Reset, that I forgot to Debloat those immediately, and had turned on the WiFi. I noticed when the update was halfway downloaded. Turned off WiFi, and turned on Airplane Mode, until I was able to Debloat the offending items.
No updates stuff since then, several days ago, even with WiFi on.
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Exactly what I needed. Thank you! :good:
flamadiddle said:
Exactly what I needed. Thank you! :good:
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You are welcome! Please report back if discover any problems or other files to block.

Auto start apps on reboot before unlocked?

This may be just an Oreo thing or maybe pixel specific but despite a ton of searching I can't find anything helpful.
When the phone is rebooted, something I do daily, it won't launch any user apps until it's unlocked.
So if I reboot and don't stay by the phone to unlock it things like slack, phoneweaver, nine, and a handful of other important apps won't start. In turn if it was close to a scheduled profile change in phoneweaver it won't work. Or if a slack message comes in it won't to the phone. Nova doesn't fill in widgets. Etc.
This is a minor headache but still annoying. Hoping someone may know why? My gut is that despite not having multiple users set on the phone Oreo doesn't load apps until you officially "login" by unlocking.
Something it would be nice to work around without compromising security ...
Appreciate anything you all may have.
_tsp
I just noticed this on my Google Pixel 2! What the hell Google? No apps auto-start until after the first unlock. Is this an Oreo or Pixel specific thing?
Did either of you two find a solution to this?
Darke5tShad0w said:
Did either of you two find a solution to this?
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No, I think it has to do with the data partition needing to be decrypted by unlocking before anything actually starts up.
It also does it on my Xiami MI 9.
I have not activated data encryption. In my opinion it is wrong that no service starts.
For example, the "Find my phone" would be good if it always started regardless of everything.
tspnews said:
This may be just an Oreo thing or maybe pixel specific but despite a ton of searching I can't find anything helpful.
When the phone is rebooted, something I do daily, it won't launch any user apps until it's unlocked.
So if I reboot and don't stay by the phone to unlock it things like slack, phoneweaver, nine, and a handful of other important apps won't start. In turn if it was close to a scheduled profile change in phoneweaver it won't work. Or if a slack message comes in it won't to the phone. Nova doesn't fill in widgets. Etc.
This is a minor headache but still annoying. Hoping someone may know why? My gut is that despite not having multiple users set on the phone Oreo doesn't load apps until you officially "login" by unlocking.
Something it would be nice to work around without compromising security ...
Appreciate anything you all may have.
_tsp
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