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Im puzzled why maps and other apps keep autostarting in the background?
and eat battery... maps alone can eat up to 10% of my battery in the duration of a day, even if I dont use it...
kurgandk said:
Im puzzled why maps and other apps keep autostarting in the background?
and eat battery... maps alone can eat up to 10% of my battery in the duration of a day, even if I dont use it...
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Get a task killer app and set it to always kill maps, and set a schedule for pruning (like every 30 mins). It's not supposed to start by itself. If you haven't rooted/flashed a custom ROM on it, call HTC. If you have, unroot and go back to stock for a day and see if the problem persists. If it doesn't, it's the ROM's fault.
its not rooted, so if I understand you correctly its a bug?
kurgandk said:
its not rooted, so if I understand you correctly its a bug?
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Either a software bug or an application issue. Have you reset to factory settings (full wipe)?
no not yet..
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
kurgandk said:
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
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I'm sorry, but that is hilarious.
kurgandk said:
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
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About as much as 2 packs of Kleenex.
Okay, serious answer. All data on the phone, but not SD card too (on the off chance that something goes wrong, just copy/paste everything on your SD card to your PC, so you can restore)
heh heh
my point being.. I keep the 'backed up' settings and info on the sd? or is it completely blank?
also I need to apply firmware upgrades again?
kurgandk said:
heh heh
my point being.. I keep the 'backed up' settings and info on the sd? or is it completely blank?
also I need to apply firmware upgrades again?
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Don't think it touches software version, but it might. I suggest you backup either with MyBackup (30 day free trial) or TitaniumBackup first.
i have the same issue, everytime i check my task manager i see apps like maps launched even though i never use them, sucks more battery for no reason, i hope froyo sheds some light
Please check one of the many battery/task manager threads. Cached applications don't use anything if they aren't somehow active. Also you could have lots of applications open at startup which must initialize something or cache themselves.
I also have maps and many other launched at startup, and my battery life is more than good.
well its claimed that they dont use any ressources.... but the reality is that something like maps eat 10% of my battery in the course of a day even if i dont use it...
if i regularely kill off unused tasks I have plenty of battery for a whole day including wifi
but if I dont Im down to the wire..
apps like maps, gallery etc. alll runs on bootup, and maps at least restarts every ... minutes..
got a response from HTC:
Dear Mr Jacobsen, Thanks for contacting HTC Support. Regarding your question, the applications will run automatically in the background as you pointed out. And yes, they will affect the longevity of the battery. Phones operating on the android platform or the Windows Mobile platform will need to be recharged on a more regular basis than other mobile phones. “Heavy” users might need to recharge their phone as often as every 24 hours, and this applies to every brand (Nokia, Sony...)out there. That aside, I do share your frustrations regarding the energy applications waste. If you go on to the Marketplace (market) and search for the application task killer, you should find an application enabling you to close down applications you do not need on a regular basis. Yours Sincerely ****** HTC Support
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number *******.
Sincerely,
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HTC
Task killers, full wipes, uninstallation...
...People could you calm down?
OP, could you check you don't have Latitude enabled in your Maps app? I found this too and it was because I set Maps to report my location. If it's not thats a good start. Now go to your settings and select Location. If you want turn off the use of wireless for location acquiring.
Ensure you're not using any widgets that need mapping data, or the Maps live wallpaper (that's a REAL juice hog)
You'll find a service running called FriendsAppWidget or such. Not sure what it does, but it's the only Map service I know that runs as long as the phone is on. You can kill it if you want, but I'm getting about 16 hrs use with it running all this time and no task killers.
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From some searching is seems quite a few 3rd party apps plug into this service. Foursquare, Buzz, Twitter etc... Also , run maps and turn off any location aware features you may have enabled in the Labs section.
Basically seek out any apps you use that are dependant on getting your location to work. Even your weather widget might be the culprit.
Menu > Add > Shortcuts > Settings > Battery Use. Charge it to full, use it til it's running out of battery, then open Battery Use and tell us if there are any apps that you didn't open once (like maps) that use, say, 10% of your battery.
Sounds to me like they're just background services (which consume 0 resources)
well maps for sure, it seems its the single most powersucking app...
when Im down to orange/red on the battery from full charge its rated at 7-10%
kurgandk said:
well maps for sure, it seems its the single most powersucking app...
when Im down to orange/red on the battery from full charge its rated at 7-10%
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Are you using Foursquare/Facebook/Twitter/geotagging photos & snapping a lot of them/etc? All of those use Maps, to a certain extent. If not, and you're on a stock ROM, call HTC and *****.
I do use geotagging and some facebook, but that ... in my opinion does not excuse maps not quitting after its done what it has to do...
Ok, so I got my new EVO last week. I haven't updated to the new 2.2 (Froyo) yet, though I keep getting the popup saying I should do it. I'll get around to it eventually .. lol. Anyway, my question is ... my battery seems to drain rather quickly throughout the day. I'm not necessarily doing anything spectacular, I have gmail and an exchange (outlook) mail account that are synching .. oh, and the weather widget and bluetooth is always on. I do check my facebook account every once in a while but don't keep it running all the time (at least I don't think it is ... I didn't add the widget, rather just the app to my home screen). I am not putzing with my phone all the time but here it is, almost 2:30 and my battery is at 47% since unplugging it from the charger at 6am. Will updating to 2.2 help with my battery issue? How can I see what is draining my battery?
Yea I'm having the same problem ... IDK I got task killer but its not helping
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Ok, so I got my new EVO last week. I haven't updated to the new 2.2 (Froyo) yet, though I keep getting the popup saying I should do it. I'll get around to it eventually .. lol. Anyway, my question is ... my battery seems to drain rather quickly throughout the day. I'm not necessarily doing anything spectacular, I have gmail and an exchange (outlook) mail account that are synching .. oh, and the weather widget and bluetooth is always on. I do check my facebook account every once in a while but don't keep it running all the time (at least I don't think it is ... I didn't add the widget, rather just the app to my home screen). I am not putzing with my phone all the time but here it is, almost 2:30 and my battery is at 47% since unplugging it from the charger at 6am. Will updating to 2.2 help with my battery issue? How can I see what is draining my battery?
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to check your battery there are apps in the market for that... you can also go to menu --- settings-- about phone---battery---battery use. Also try these tips from this website it has worked wonders for me on my stock rooted Evo http://www.techhackz.com/2010/06/how-to-increase-your-htc-evo-4g-battery.html
You're not doing terrible compared to most users, although I'll bet Bluetooth is taking a significant amount of juice. Froyo isn't a magical battery saver, though it is supposedly more efficient. You may be better of rooting and getting an undervolted ROM in combination with some conservative "Screen off" SetCPU profiles.
Three things: First, you can turn off the OTA notification by going into your settings menu - Software Update and turning off the scheduled check. You'll still be able to check manually whenever you want. Second, turning off "always on mobile data" will save a good amount of battery, but you'll lose Gmail push and some other minor things. Third, think long and hard before you accept that 2.2 OTA update. It can't be rooted yet, you can't go back to 2.1, and we still don't know if/when a root method will be found. If you want Froyo and there's a 0.001% chance you might want to root sometime in the future, you're better off rooting NOW and flashing a ROOTED stock OTA update from the Development section.
Just my thoughts.
Ok, so I downloaded System Panel (the free version for now) from the Market and was able to identify some things that were running that I thought were closed. Not sure what, if any, impact that will have ... time will tell. Here's my next question. After going to Settings/Applications/Running services I'm trying to figure out what some of these things are to determine if I need them running:
Mail - MailService (I'm guessing this is my Gmail?)
Mail - EASDirectpush (I'm guessing this is my Exchange (Outlook)?)
Calendar - ObexService (ummm ... is this my synch'd calendar from Outlook?)
Calendar - ConnectivityService (no idea what this is?)
Touch Input - Touch Input (is it as self explanatory as it sounds?)
HTC DM - HtcDmService (no idea what this is?)
HTC IQAgent - AgentService (no idea what this is?)
com.smithmicro.dm - DMServiceApp (no idea what this is?)
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Ok, so I downloaded System Panel (the free version for now) from the Market and was able to identify some things that were running that I thought were closed. Not sure what, if any, impact that will have ... time will tell. Here's my next question. After going to Settings/Applications/Running services I'm trying to figure out what some of these things are to determine if I need them running:
Mail - MailService (I'm guessing this is my Gmail?)
Mail - EASDirectpush (I'm guessing this is my Exchange (Outlook)?)
Calendar - ObexService (ummm ... is this my synch'd calendar from Outlook?)
Calendar - ConnectivityService (no idea what this is?)
Touch Input - Touch Input (is it as self explanatory as it sounds?)
HTC DM - HtcDmService (no idea what this is?)
HTC IQAgent - AgentService (no idea what this is?)
com.smithmicro.dm - DMServiceApp (no idea what this is?)
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Thats not the functionality you want out of systempanel - what you're refferring to here is essentially using it as a task killer, which you shouldn't be using. Those items will just keep restarting - it's more efficient to just leave them in the background where they're not using cpu or battery.
The main functionality of systempanel lies only in the bought version, I'm afraid. What it does is allow you to set it up to monitor your phone - so you can go back to it a day later and see how your battery, cpu, and device usage were affected over a period of time.
Honestly though, for non-rooted, you're not doing too bad on battery. If you want better, you're probably going to want to root, which will allow you to use custom ROMs and kernels that allow overclocking and underclocking. And also allow you to remove bloatware.
Regardless if your rooted or not, make sure you go into all of the stock apps, like talk, stocks, news, etc, and set them up to never login and never sync. Then install the network app from the market and make sure that you're set to cdma auto prl. this should help.
And note what SilverZero mentioned - CURRENTLY THERE IS NO WAY TO ROOT AFTER THE 2.2 OTA UPGRADE. This really can't be stressed enough. So if you do decide to go through with the OTA, your options will be very limited for any tweaking.
Average apps that run on everyones phone. those apps are running on mine as we speak and I am still getting good battery life. I have been off the charger since 7a.m. and I am at 78% phone calls and text with wifi and 3g running all day. try that link I posted
This may sound like a real stupid noob question but if I root my phone do I have to flash a ROM? Or will the stock ROM (2.1) still be there?
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This may sound like a real stupid noob question but if I root my phone do I have to flash a ROM? Or will the stock ROM (2.1) still be there?
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stock rom will be there - you have the option to flash a rom once rooted, but if you want, you can just stop once rooted - some people root just to be able to run titanium backup.
noob. jk ;-)
Apologies if this has been posted before, I did look but couldn't seem to find the exact same issue.
I've had my phone for just under a year, no real problems. But late last month it restarted over night and since then it started freezing every night when I left it charging. At first I thought it was crashing but the charge light would still be on but all buttons would be unresponsive. The only thing I could do to regain control of my phone was to remove the battery.
I contacted HTC who suggested factory reset...which I don't really want to do. As my phone was only freezing once a day (over night) it wasn't all that bad. To be honest I thought it was an issue with it charging.
For reasons I can't remember, I removed an app that I never used; it was using 2mb space and couldn't be put on the SD. Once removed, the freezing stopped happening and there was much rejoicing...until last night.
I decided to download another app and the freezing happened again over night. I've since removed that app but here's the rub, why is this happening?
The fact it's happening whenever I download more apps to my phone seems to point to a memory issue but my phone has 1.6GB on the SD and 53mb on the phone itself.
I still haven't tried a factory reset and as I've had it less than a year, HTC said I can return it; but there's no guarantee this will fix it and I like my little phone, so if there's a way I can resolve this issue I'll rather do that before trying more drastic measures.
I hope someone can help.
Are you rooted? If that's the case, and, you are charging the phone when it is switched off, what you are experiencing is a known bug.
Also, although unrelated, it is really not recommended to charge your battery overnight or for extended periods. Charge only till it is full.
Nope, not rooted. Just a plain, bog-standard out the box Wildfire.
Thanks for the heads up regarding the charging though Since I bought it (July last year) I had been charging over night on most days but I'll switch to just charging it for a few hours till it's full now.
I guess in case it'll help I'll give a little more info: While charging I leave my phone switched on and I rarely restart my phone unless it drops signal. Only recently with the freezing have I had issues with using it and had to restart it frequently. I'm not a techie person so I've not played around with the phone other than putting on apps, where possible I put them onto SD. My phone is unlocked and I use it on the O2 network.
make a factory reset bro. it tells u whether the issue is with hardware or software. kept under charging mode just heats up the phone by a little level. this dont normally freeze the phone.
but if u r downloading something with data connection, or bluetooth, or wifi and kept charging overnight, then the battery gets overheated heavily which freezes the phone. it is quite normal and is experienced by people who keep overnight downloads.
and further there may be application conflicts in ur phone, which make it slow and freeze. i expect this is the issue with u.
if u r sure that u r not using any data connections, then i suggest u to factory reset ur phone. before that backup all the data. i dont understand what makes u from not doing the factory reset.
Over night my phone is idle while charging. Though I have data enabled (no wifi at home), it's not downloading anything and I have auto sync switched off.
I would have thought if this was an application issue it would have started after installing this dodgy app and also continue until I unistalled. This hasn't been the case. When it started happening I hadn't installed anything other than updates for weeks or maybe months. During the week while it was having this issue, I had installed 1 app (Photoshop).
It has only frozen once during the day, right after work; that was the time I finally thought I'll have to factory reset. So I was writing down all my apps in a notepad so I knew what I had and where they were (I'm fussy with my screen setup). I decided to remove 2 apps I never used (8Pen and Photoshop), I thought I'll leave it 1 night just in case and that night though it never froze, so I didn't reset.
Since then it's been working fine for 3 weeks till last night when I downloaded another app. So it seems random, it's not associated with a particular app and comes and goes.
The reason I'm cautious about factory resetting is that it deletes everything. Though I have backed contacts up to MyLookOut and to my SD card, I'll still loose my apps and data and so I'm not keen on doing it. Not using wifi means it's heafty on my 500mb data package to redownload them again and then I'm unsure if i'll have to upgrade to Froyo again.
End of the day it just seems like a "Turn it off and on again" answer and as it comes and goes and doesn't seem to have a reason why it happens so randomly I don't want to factory reset if there's another way.
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Over night my phone is idle while charging. Though I have data enabled (no wifi at home), it's not downloading anything and I have auto sync switched off.
I would have thought if this was an application issue it would have started after installing this dodgy app and also continue until I unistalled. This hasn't been the case. When it started happening I hadn't installed anything other than updates for weeks or maybe months. During the week while it was having this issue, I had installed 1 app (Photoshop).
It has only frozen once during the day, right after work; that was the time I finally thought I'll have to factory reset. So I was writing down all my apps in a notepad so I knew what I had and where they were (I'm fussy with my screen setup). I decided to remove 2 apps I never used (8Pen and Photoshop), I thought I'll leave it 1 night just in case and that night though it never froze, so I didn't reset.
Since then it's been working fine for 3 weeks till last night when I downloaded another app. So it seems random, it's not associated with a particular app and comes and goes.
The reason I'm cautious about factory resetting is that it deletes everything. Though I have backed contacts up to MyLookOut and to my SD card, I'll still loose my apps and data and so I'm not keen on doing it. Not using wifi means it's heafty on my 500mb data package to redownload them again and then I'm unsure if i'll have to upgrade to Froyo again.
End of the day it just seems like a "Turn it off and on again" answer and as it comes and goes and doesn't seem to have a reason why it happens so randomly I don't want to factory reset if there's another way.
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u r worrying about loosing data on factory reset. but do u know that u can backup each and everything on the phone including the apps downloaded from market.
ok, i will try to give a software solution. first uninstall all the file managers and app managers in your phone. then go to market and download "ANDROID ASSISTANT". this little app has many features. explore it and u will know its potential. it has a nice option called QUICK BOOST. when u press this quick boost on a heavily stuck phone, u will feel like ur phone got a new life. it makes the phone response faster in seconds.
and further it has auto boost option, which can be set to a minimum of 10minutes. this auto boost will help u in preventing the freeze issue. hope it works. the present version of android assistant is 2.3.3
trying to attach u that one
Many thanks.
How do you backup apps? I know they'll appear in the download list but I'll rather not have to redownload them all, plus I have a few not from the marketplace. I've read that during a factory reset even apps which are apparently "saved" on the SD card are removed because they're not 100% saved onto it. So if you know of a way to back them up I would be most grateful.
Thanks for the Android Assistant.apk too, I'll be sure to look into that! Though I always thought anything that force closed apps wasn't always good - I previously used Task Killer and removed it after being told it could be the route of a force close email app issue I was getting.
Edit: Just got back home and during the journey my phone had frozen!! I had hoped it was a space issue but I've not downloaded any new apps and have even removed some during the day. So my previous thought that this was some how connected to storage on my phone must be wrong. So what on Earth can it be? It's not constant, in fact, like I said I've had this phone for 9 months give or take and it's been fine. So why now and why only sometimes does it freeze?
Idavoll said:
Many thanks.
How do you backup apps? I know they'll appear in the download list but I'll rather not have to redownload them all, plus I have a few not from the marketplace. I've read that during a factory reset even apps which are apparently "saved" on the SD card are removed because they're not 100% saved onto it. So if you know of a way to back them up I would be most grateful.
Thanks for the Android Assistant.apk too, I'll be sure to look into that! Though I always thought anything that force closed apps wasn't always good - I previously used Task Killer and removed it after being told it could be the route of a force close email app issue I was getting.
Edit: Just got back home and during the journey my phone had frozen!! I had hoped it was a space issue but I've not downloaded any new apps and have even removed some during the day. So my previous thought that this was some how connected to storage on my phone must be wrong. So what on Earth can it be? It's not constant, in fact, like I said I've had this phone for 9 months give or take and it's been fine. So why now and why only sometimes does it freeze?
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yes freezing also happens when there is very low phone free memory. when ur apps get filled in phone and keep on decreasing its memory, it is more likely that ur phone gets freezed. its always better to keep a 30MB free phone memory. remember data and cache also use phone memory, so the free memory will be generally unpredictable with minor errors. have u got any idea of a windows pc freezing. a windows pc freezes if there is some errors in registry. that is the reason why i have suggested u to make factory reset first to eliminate the software issues.
u asked me a solution to backup ur apps, right.
firstly i wanna introduce u about the backing up of applications.
android applications will be in the .apk file format and u know this. this .apk file is an installable archive just like .exe of windows OS. opening the .apk files from a file manager installs the program files of that application. but when u download the applications from android market, u will not get the .apk files. the android market installs the program files directly. but we can still create an .apk file from these program files and app managers will do that function. both the files im attaching u below will do that function.
here im attaching u two applications (.apk files)
one is APP CONTROL. i recommend u to use this. it can be used with android assistant installed. both of them work fine. the APP CONTROL version i gave u is an older version and is a full version. A newer version of APP CONTROL is available in the android market, but it is not free. so i strongly recommend u to use this. it has a great feature to backup all ur apps at a single click. the apps backed up by it will be saved as .apk files under the path
MEMORY CARD/backups/apps
i recommend u to back up all ur phone and mem card apps at a time with a single click. explore this APP CONTROL.
i dont want to give a detailed explanation of the other file ANDROID APP MANAGER, because i wont recommend u to use this. im just attaching u this because of only one reason, that APP CONTROL is presently not a full version. using of it is entirely at your personal intrest.
I took your advice and did a factory reset - backed everything up so it wasn't as painful as I first thought it would be. Managed to reinstall everything and so far so good (touch wood) but the original issue was sporadic and so only time will tell.
I have noticed since the reset that my phone memory, which was 50mb before, is now 100mb. So hopefully this will mean that I'm not forced to limit what I download.
Such a shame the Wildfire doesn't have more memory
Thanks again for the help and I'll post if the issue occurs again.
Idavoll said:
I took your advice and did a factory reset - backed everything up so it wasn't as painful as I first thought it would be. Managed to reinstall everything and so far so good (touch wood) but the original issue was sporadic and so only time will tell.
I have noticed since the reset that my phone memory, which was 50mb before, is now 100mb. So hopefully this will mean that I'm not forced to limit what I download.
Such a shame the Wildfire doesn't have more memory
Thanks again for the help and I'll post if the issue occurs again.
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that 50 MB and 100 MB may be due to app memory + cache memory. if u have interrupted the download android apps from market, and have every downloading app partly downloaded and interrupted. then that partly downloaded apps go to the cache memory of MARKET application. u can try and check this.
similarly there will be cache memory for every application. i expect all those cache memories got built up and ate 50 MB of ur phone memory. if it is so, it says that how vigourously u have used ur phone regarding applications.
these cache memories wont get cleaned just on restrating phone, and u should manually clean them either through the phones inbuilt process or through the applications having keywords of cache cleaner.
there is somewhat that i dont like in android apps. which is the application doing extra functions other than its name. now a days, u can see many file managers in android market. and those file managers suppose to have the fuction of explorer of android file system. but they will have additional features like combined app manager, cache cleaner, uninstaller, installer.
this makes the different applications conflict with each other and slow down the os. thats the thing i hate here. i have to choose priority in apps, and sometimes need to avoid nice apps due to that reason.
Well, my phone has just froze again Sent an email to HTC (already had an email chain going with them so I just updated my ticket) and asked them what to try next.
On the plus side at least they won't keep telling me to factory reset!
Idavoll said:
Well, my phone has just froze again Sent an email to HTC (already had an email chain going with them so I just updated my ticket) and asked them what to try next.
On the plus side at least they won't keep telling me to factory reset!
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HOPE U HAVE ELIMINATED THE SOFTWARE ISSUE
OK. hope the phone froze without even single app being installed.
suppose if the freeze was a software issue, then u have backed up the app causing freeze. let us think this like a virus. if u had reinstalled that app again, ur phone is likely to freeze again.
i haven't heard of virusses if android os, but i have seen many antivirus programs for android. even the great kaspersky recently added its support for android. the existance of antivirus programs proove the existance of virusses.
so, try to remember if u have installed any backed up app frm mem card.
Im personally guessing that ur phone freeze was not a software issue. ur phone might be having hardware issues.
giving to a service centre might solve the problem, but im not pretty sure. and moreover, if they update ur phone to froyo, u cant even root. (i dont remember what ur phone is on now). and even u cant make those service centre guys see ur problem, as u dont know when it freezes. i expect, what all they are gonna do to ur phone is factory reset, or reinstall the os.
OK, so by now a good deal of us will have 4.4.2 installed, either via PCCompanion, OTA, or more likely by flashing an ftf because Sony is terrible at rolling out updates. And if you do have it you'll have noticed that Sony have done a bang up job of making it one of the laggiest and shortest experiences you've ever seen on a flagship.
One of the biggest setbacks is the battery drain issue, originally we all thought that the perpetrator was Google Play Services, which kept waking our phone, so we tried to fix that with blocking its wakelocks. I did that too, and it did help, the battery didn't drain as much and would actually last till the evening.
However, I checked battery consumption again, and noticed that since I blocked Google Play Services, the Media Storage was draining more than 60% of my battery.
I've fixed it, here's how:
For this you'll need
Root
the latest GApps, or just the Services part
Xposed,
Wakelock Terminator (free to block one app, pro version blocks more)
If you're not rooted, root your phone, just follow the super easy instructions in the above link.
OK, you need to install the latest Services, for some reason it wouldn't automatically update for me on my XZL, this release fixes the issues, yes this was not a Sony mistake, it was just Google.
Once you did that install Wakelock Terminator, the free version only blocks one app, if you want to block more you'll have to pay. This is an Xposed module so you need Xposed, if you don't already have it, follow the above link and install it.
Now if you're rooted, have xposed, updated services, and have Wakelock Terminator installed, open Wakelock Terminator. Here search for "Media Storage", or just "media", then select it and block its wakelocks.
Then reboot and you're done. A lot of work, but that's our fault for buying Xperia.
My battery is currently at 59% after 9 hours 51 minutes, not fantastic, but much better than before.
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OK, so by now a good deal of us will have 4.4.2 installed, either via PCCompanion, OTA, or more likely by flashing an ftf because Sony is terrible at rolling out updates. And if you do have it you'll have noticed that Sony have done a bang up job of making it one of the laggiest and shortest experiences you've ever seen on a flagship.
One of the biggest setbacks is the battery drain issue, originally we all thought that the perpetrator was Google Play Services, which kept waking our phone, so we tried to fix that with blocking its wakelocks. I did that too, and it did help, the battery didn't drain as much and would actually last till the evening.
However, I checked battery consumption again, and noticed that since I blocked Google Play Services, the Media server was draining more than 60% of my battery.
I've fixed it, here's how:
For this you'll need
Root
the latest GApps, or just the Services part
Xposed,
Wakelock Terminator (free to block one app, pro version blocks more)
If you're not rooted, root your phone, just follow the super easy instructions in the above link.
OK, you need to install the latest Services, for some reason it wouldn't automatically update for me on my XZL, this release fixes the issues, yes this was not a Sony mistake, it was just Google.
Once you did that install Wakelock Terminator, the free version only blocks one app, if you want to block more you'll have to pay. This is an Xposed module so you need Xposed, if you don't already have it, follow the above link and install it.
Now if you're rooted, have xposed, updated services, and have Wakelock Terminator installed, open Wakelock Terminator. Here search for "Media Server", or just "media", then select it and block its wakelocks.
Then reboot and you're done. A lot of work, but that's our fault for buying Xperia.
My battery is currently at 59% after 9 hours 51 minutes, not fantastic, but much better than before.
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Testing now!
Dead Metal said:
OK, so by now a good deal of us will have 4.4.2 installed, either via PCCompanion, OTA, or more likely by flashing an ftf because Sony is terrible at rolling out updates. And if you do have it you'll have noticed that Sony have done a bang up job of making it one of the laggiest and shortest experiences you've ever seen on a flagship.
One of the biggest setbacks is the battery drain issue, originally we all thought that the perpetrator was Google Play Services, which kept waking our phone, so we tried to fix that with blocking its wakelocks. I did that too, and it did help, the battery didn't drain as much and would actually last till the evening.
However, I checked battery consumption again, and noticed that since I blocked Google Play Services, the Media server was draining more than 60% of my battery.
I've fixed it, here's how:
For this you'll need
Root
the latest GApps, or just the Services part
Xposed,
Wakelock Terminator (free to block one app, pro version blocks more)
If you're not rooted, root your phone, just follow the super easy instructions in the above link.
OK, you need to install the latest Services, for some reason it wouldn't automatically update for me on my XZL, this release fixes the issues, yes this was not a Sony mistake, it was just Google.
Once you did that install Wakelock Terminator, the free version only blocks one app, if you want to block more you'll have to pay. This is an Xposed module so you need Xposed, if you don't already have it, follow the above link and install it.
Now if you're rooted, have xposed, updated services, and have Wakelock Terminator installed, open Wakelock Terminator. Here search for "Media Server", or just "media", then select it and block its wakelocks.
Then reboot and you're done. A lot of work, but that's our fault for buying Xperia.
My battery is currently at 59% after 9 hours 51 minutes, not fantastic, but much better than before.
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No results found for media or media server.
supaflyx3 said:
No results found for media or media server.
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Lol, just switched my phone to English, and here it's called Media Storage.
Putting the location service to only GPS ("Device only") worked way better and fixed all the battery drain. With this method it was still a lot higher than it should be.
Using App Ops (xposed) and denying the keep awake seems to work better than Wakelock Terminator for me with no downsides.
NamenIos said:
Putting the location service to only GPS ("Device only") worked way better and fixed all the battery drain. With this method it was still a lot higher than it should be.
Using App Ops (xposed) and denying the keep awake seems to work better than Wakelock Terminator for me with no downsides.
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Well, with this method media only uses 7% of battery, and I have locations deactivated by default.
I'll try the App Ops version though, even if I can't see any downsides to my method, just to compare.
I have location services on by default, and this completely fixes the 95% Google Play Services battery drain issue.
Thanks!
NamenIos said:
Putting the location service to only GPS ("Device only") worked way better and fixed all the battery drain. With this method it was still a lot higher than it should be.
Using App Ops (xposed) and denying the keep awake seems to work better than Wakelock Terminator for me with no downsides.
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So I tried the App Ops tip, and it uses more battery, with it there are two media services running each at the same time, one 7% and the other 5%, with Wakelock Terminator there there is only the media server. But your tip did do something, before I used it media server used 7%, now that I switched from your method back to mine, it only uses 3%.
It didn't work here... still draining battery. I'll set location service to "device only" to see if it helps. Not sure if apps like waze and google maps will work fine after that, though.
Recently mdnsd has started appearing in my batter usage as one of the top battery offenders. I've done some googling and have found that everything from an application for a drone to location services issues to corrupted files on the sd card can cause problems with mdnsd.
I have formatted my ext sd card and turned off location services with no luck. I've also dumped many non essential apps.
Is there someway I can find out what app is triggering this service so that I can fix it?
I'm pretty much on the same boat: read about the same possibilities and tried the same tricks, but mDNSd usage keeps climbing as the day goes.
Coincidence or not, all the images in a specific folder on my device's internal memory were mysteriously deleted about the time this bug appeared. I'm using a '14 Moto X BTW.
Overall battery life doesn't seem very affected though, if at all. Guess it would be good if someone with a rooted phone could gather some more info on these stats.
TBueno said:
I'm pretty much on the same boat: read about the same possibilities and tried the same tricks, but mDNSd usage keeps climbing as the day goes.
Coincidence or not, all the images in a specific folder on my device's internal memory were mysteriously deleted about the time this bug appeared. I'm using a '14 Moto X BTW.
Overall battery life doesn't seem very affected though, if at all. Guess it would be good if someone with a rooted phone could gather some more info on these stats.
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Something to do with firefox for android? https ://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ show_bug.cgi ?id=1215012
I do use Firefox occasionally, although sync is off.
mDNSd does appear when I'm on wifi, but usage is negligible. When I'm on cell data though, it'll keep climbing the stats long after I've closed Firefox, up to the top of the list.
It's not exactly a battery leech, but it does make a dent. Good to know Mozilla is on top of it.
http://www.haesbaert.org/openmdns/mdnsd.8.html
A little info about what it does. I found I was getting it too. I also found I didn't have Greenify set up properly and Firefox was not included. It is now. We'll see.
Greenify works on non-rooted phones now.
I had dismissed Greenify for unrooted devices before, didn't seem "elegant" enough, required user action or an unsafe screen lock etc. But looked into it again because of this very issue, and boy, it really does wonders on a locked device too! One or two "hibernate now" taps a day is enough to make all backgroung creeping apps behave.
For mDNSd though, it doesn't seem to do the trick, as it kept sucking on my battery yesterday even though Firefox had been stopped and properly hibernated with Greenify. I haven't launched Firefox today, and mDNSd doesn't show in stats.
Scrolled quickly through "all apps" looking for something related to mDNSd that could maybe be stopped through app info, but it's probably more like a service. Will try to avoid Firefox for now until Mozilla issues a patch.
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Something to do with firefox for android? https ://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ show_bug.cgi ?id=1215012
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Yall should read this. In the last 2 comments they say Firefox 42 is causing it. The commenter said he had to uninstall Firefox to stop it. I have too. I'll be giving Chrome another try. Or maybe it's time to check out all the available browsers again. Thanks @elircorajan for finding it.
I went to the play store and gave it a bad rating explaining about the bug. Maybe if everybody did it would get Mozilla's attention.
Update: I'm giving the stock browser a try. It seems quite a lot better than it used to be.
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TBueno said:
I'm pretty much on the same boat: read about the same possibilities and tried the same tricks, but mDNSd usage keeps climbing as the day goes.
Coincidence or not, all the images in a specific folder on my device's internal memory were mysteriously deleted about the time this bug appeared. I'm using a '14 Moto X BTW.
Overall battery life doesn't seem very affected though, if at all. Guess it would be good if someone with a rooted phone could gather some more info on these stats.
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I had the download folder delete itself right infront of my eyes, was downloading on Firefox. I'm on an S6 edge
Thx to the person who found the issue to be Firefox. I spent about 15 minutes searching for MDNSD before I found this.
I just deleted Firefox. I've been using Chrome, and a little Opera, anyways. I really miss the Android browser for the text flow feature.....
After uninstalling Firefox Beta, the mdnsd usage disappeared and the battery life seems to be much better.
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razvu said:
After uninstalling Firefox Beta, the mdnsd usage disappeared and the battery life seems to be much better.
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Not only that, the occasional lag I was having seems to be gone. I've settled on using Chrome for now. I've also got rid of Firefox in my computer and I'm using Chrome there too.
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Same thing for me (Samsung Note 4). Battery drying up in less than a day, with mdnsd at the top of the list. Uninstalled Firefox and battery back to normal - average a day and half or more.
Firefox 42.0.2 was released yesterday (December 2) and supposedly fixes this issue.
Having the same issue but have never had Firefox always used chrome so not sure what else could be causing it.