Related
Not trying to be a jerk, this is a sincere question. I really like my Tilt2 and don't want to get a newer phone with Droid on it. My phone is really, imo, built solid and has almost never failed to perform. I know it's a little heavy, but that doesn't bother me. I really would love to have a fully functional Droid that I could use. Mainly because I really don't like Apple and won't get an Iphone, even though I think the I-4 is a cool phone. Is there anything I can do as a forum member to help get this project further along? I was wondering if we could all maybe tackle 1 thing each and help out. Might not be anything I can do, but I'm willing to help if I can.
rpowell said:
Not trying to be a jerk, this is a sincere question. I really like my Tilt2 and don't want to get a newer phone with Droid on it. My phone is really, imo, built solid and has almost never failed to perform. I know it's a little heavy, but that doesn't bother me. I really would love to have a fully functional Droid that I could use. Mainly because I really don't like Apple and won't get an Iphone, even though I think the I-4 is a cool phone. Is there anything I can do as a forum member to help get this project further along? I was wondering if we could all maybe tackle 1 thing each and help out. Might not be anything I can do, but I'm willing to help if I can.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think anyone can be sure that Android will ever be finished. The developers have done much for this device, but with the HD2 finally able to boot the Linux kernel, I think most of the support we had will move towards getting Android on better, newer, and more capable devices like the HD2. In addition, most of the remaining problems with getting Android completely working are the ones that were very difficult to begin with. Things like initializing hardware correctly, and figuring out how to get the various parts of the device to talk to each other. I'm honestly kind of doubtful that we will see more development with Android on the Pro2, since AFAIK only one person is working on it (though I hope I'm wrong).
it seemed at first that android for the touch pro would never work but now the only thing that doesnt work is the camera. maybe the touch pro 2 will get to that level some day. who knows.
So from what I gathered, the Tilt 2 won't be having any further development to work with Android? I also still have my Fuze. Is that development continuing? If so, maybe I will keep my Fuze instead of selling it and use it to test with Android?
By the way, what is the real name for the Tilt 2? Is it Rhodium or ?
Thanks guys, this place really ROXS!
I await your replies!
ITAdmin
I'm not sure what you mean by complete. New builds are released all the time, etc. If you mean all hardware functioning, here is the list from Reefer's thread:
NOT WORKING IN THIS BUILD:
BT
Sound (in call mic and earpiece work, no ringtones or music)
Camera
Opengles: using software rendering for the time being.
Battery Meter
For sound, look here: http://www.ppcgeeks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121743
One guy has made an NDISwrapper for Android...amazing.
For HW3D, look here: http://www.ppcgeeks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125379
Battery Meter is working very well. It's not accurate (seems like it's 10-15% off) but it shows low, which means you can get charged up in time with no problems. I also recall phhusson saying this WILL be 100% some day, it's just very tedious and time consuming, and everyone is more concerned with making things run better and on more hardware.
In other words, development is still very much active and some very smart people are working on these problems. I believe Mr. Steve Ballmer said it best here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zEQhhaJsU4
If you're patient, more of the pieces will come together soon enough and Android for our device will be more complete (relatively speaking). For the record, I'm very content with the state of things. All development from here is just icing on the cake
Mods, if I'm not supposed to link to outside forums, just delete them and/or let me know. That's just where the more technical info is.
i thought sound was fixed already today there was a new build for rhodium?.
i think sound just got added but not for music. I think they upgraded the sound in the earpiece and speaker works now.
bas85 said:
i think sound just got added but not for music. I think they upgraded the sound in the earpiece and speaker works now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is incorrect. Please leave the release posts to those doing the releasing.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I don't think anyone can be sure that Android will ever be finished. The developers have done much for this device, but with the HD2 finally able to boot the Linux kernel... ...I'm honestly kind of doubtful that we will see more development with Android on the Pro2, since AFAIK only one person is working on it (though I hope I'm wrong).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is also incorrect. TP2 development is moving along faster now than it has been in a while. Not everyone wants a HD2 just beacuse it can boot android. Sure it has a fancy screen but no hardware keyboard, so i'm not even considering it as an option for a new device. Also, for future reference there are quite a few more than just one person working on this...
Also, define finished? The OS itself is in constant development. Will Android itself ever be finished? I hope not.
Hamsteriel said:
Also, define finished? The OS itself is in constant development. Will Android itself ever be finished? I hope not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok, point taken. When will Android ever be fully functional on the Tilt 2 phone?
Now! Then! No, Then! When it's done. This isn't a native OS, don't go in expecting perfection. Go in expecting nothing and be amazed with every update. The alternative is to port it yourself. Good luck with that.
Hamsteriel said:
Now! Then! No, Then! When it's done. This isn't a native OS, don't go in expecting perfection. Go in expecting nothing and be amazed with every update. The alternative is to port it yourself. Good luck with that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My initial question was pretty point blank. Don't expect perfection, just would like full functionality on my phone because I like the AnDroid OS. The question was never meant to be a gripe, not sure why it struck a chord with you. I don't know how to port it, so luck is not needed. Thanks anyway
rpowell said:
My initial question was pretty point blank. Don't expect perfection, just would like full functionality on my phone because I like the AnDroid OS. The question was never meant to be a gripe, not sure why it struck a chord with you. I don't know how to port it, so luck is not needed. Thanks anyway
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you serious?!?! What you are asking is very disrespectful because You obviously haven't even read the FAQ/WIKI because it states:
5) When will the next release be out? I can't wait to get more features on my phone!
The next release will be out when the developers are able to get it ready. They are contributing their time for free and can't work on it full time. If you want to help speed development, make a donation to one of the main developers to help encourage them, don't pester them by asking a million times when the next release will be out when they won't know until it is ready.
hope this helps clear things up.
Code:
http://tinyurl.com/2c5dtps
or
Code:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ppcgeeks+wiki+Rhodium+Android+Port
anyone seen how complete android is on the hd2? even the camera works. and it has a sense version. i want one of those 4.3" phones and ive held off because i want my next phone to be an android phone but the only large android phones are cdma. im thinking i may look around for an hd2 soon.
The Jack of Clubs said:
anyone seen how complete android is on the hd2? even the camera works. and it has a sense version. i want one of those 4.3" phones and ive held off because i want my next phone to be an android phone but the only large android phones are cdma. im thinking i may look around for an hd2 soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You might as well wait a few months, there will be a bigger, better, brighter android (as we have seen the last few months) - if you can't wait, the HD2 is very nice.
Anomoly said:
Are you serious?!?! What you are asking is very disrespectful because You obviously haven't even read the FAQ/WIKI because it states:
5) When will the next release be out? I can't wait to get more features on my phone!
The next release will be out when the developers are able to get it ready. They are contributing their time for free and can't work on it full time. If you want to help speed development, make a donation to one of the main developers to help encourage them, don't pester them by asking a million times when the next release will be out when they won't know until it is ready.
hope this helps clear things up.
Code:
http://tinyurl.com/2c5dtps
or
Code:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ppcgeeks+wiki+Rhodium+Android+Port
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Didn't have a clue I was being disrespectful. Maybe a couple people here just wear their hearts on their sleeves.
rpowell said:
Didn't have a clue I was being disrespectful. Maybe a couple people here just wear their hearts on their sleeves.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you didn't have a clue mmh ? what where you thinking ? that those people are well paid for doing it, and because of that your in position to come here and whine ?
and it's nothing about wearing hearts on sleeves, since it's only repeating the obvious like breaking in open doors.
however, I have some question :
Is it possible to have a feedback from some developer if it is a question of money to make things go further. if yes, what would it be approximately.
because, it is nice to encourage people to donate, but I didn't read anywhere from some person actually working on the project that it is indeed a question of money.
maybe this would be the first thing to find out ? from the developers side, is there anything that "non-aware" people can make to get things go further ?
alvoryx said:
Is it possible to have a feedback from some developer if it is a question of money to make things go further. if yes, what would it be approximately.
because, it is nice to encourage people to donate, but I didn't read anywhere from some person actually working on the project that it is indeed a question of money.
maybe this would be the first thing to find out ? from the developers side, is there anything that "non-aware" people can make to get things go further ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
there's a bounty started for this, but i haven't been following it, i don't know how up to date it is. i'd link to it, but i'm not allowed to post links yet...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596370
Anomoly said:
You might as well wait a few months, there will be a bigger, better, brighter android (as we have seen the last few months) - if you can't wait, the HD2 is very nice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I bought my HD2 as soon as it came out but I still want android on the tp2. I know its frustrating waiting for what seems forever. If you really cant wait go get a better more capable phone. The hd2 is great multipurpose device.
<3 my wing/tp2/hd2
Anomoly said:
You might as well wait a few months, there will be a bigger, better, brighter android (as we have seen the last few months) - if you can't wait, the HD2 is very nice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
like what? it has to work on atts network.
UPDATE!! Ric is back on board and actively working on Azrael 4.0!!! THIS IS INDEED GREAT NEWS! I am going to leave this thread open just to continue showing my support for his work and would appreciate it greatly if every Azrael user continues to show support here in case he ever needs to be reminded again. Thanks to all that contributed in persuading him to continue developing this awesome Rom!
So Ricsim78 has recently posted in his thread for the Azrael Rom that due to too many complaints to his Rom that he may or may not end up hanging up the towel for good and ending the development of his Roms. Personally this saddens me. So i ask here.....Do you use any of the Azrael ROMS?? Did you use one and switched due to issues?? Should he continue to build his ROMS??? Read his original post .......
""" Originally Posted by ricsim78
Hey everyone,
I am going to make one last version of Azrael X and then I think I may step down as a developer. Maybe for a while, maybe forever.
I did this for fun and along the way I have enjoyed how my ROMS have progressed. But now that people have rated down my work and shown me that no matter what I do, it will never be "good enough" and I should use "other ROMS as my base", that tells me that I should keep my own custom ROMS to myself.
I am going to make a few different versions of Azrael X Final, keep this thread updated as progress is made, but I think I have been shown the way by the community here.
I appreciate all the people who do support me. I am forever grateful but I am pretty disgusted by the acts of some people on here. There are lots of ROM options here, so I am sure there is a good new one to pick up.
Nothing lasts forever; maybe my decision will reverse, maybe not. But as it stands, I begin work on one final release of Azrael X. It will be called just that and may well be my last public release of my ROMS."""""
Some may have issues with his Rom but i have not experienced any of these issue nor have any of the other 15+ HTC EVO's that I have flashed his Rom to. Plenty have requested that he use a different base for his Rom. I disagree with this as well. His Rom is plenty fast and plenty stable and if you have problems with how he makes his stuff.....try something else or learn how to develop your self. Its that simple. There are PLENTY of other options to chose from. If your like me and your incapable of developing your own stuff....take what you cant get and thank these fantastic developers that do everything they can to make our good phones the best phones they can be.
IF YOU VOTE ANYTHING OTHER THAN YES, PLEASE DO US ALL A FAVOR AND POST YOUR REASONS HERE. PLEASE LIST ANY BUGS YOU EXPERIENCED. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU THAT PARTICIPATE.
I will only use Azrael roms....Ric's support for his roms is secound to none!!!!
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Agree this rom fits me to a t
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Youthanasia said:
I will only use Azrael roms....Ric's support for his roms is secound to none!!!!
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea you said it. 10 fold.
Yess!!! Thats what im talkin about!!! Everyone show your support for this amazing rom here and maybe, just maybe we can convince him all his hard work has not been in vain!!!! (cross your fingers azrael lovers!!) thanks guys!!
Ok so I flashed my Evo about a month ago and I tried a few different ROMs and I have been on Az's for the whole time. I love it and won't flash anyone else's ROMs now. Please don't go Az.
Ric should do what makes him happy. I did however vote for how much I like his work though and the selfish part of me wants him to keep making them. If he were to ask me, which he hasn't of course, I would say to always listen with an open mind, but not to ever worry or sweat about what the negative folks have to say and concentrate instead on enjoying the process of his work and the majority of us who enjoy it. Here's to you Ric, thanks for everything that you've done so far, I will appreciate it and you no matter what.
I personally don't use his ROMS but I do think losing a Dev from the community because of a few bad apples is poor form. It's too bad he feels this way and I think this thread is an awesome show of support!
I love his roms. I personally love the way sense looks and he keeps that look. Its snappy reliable and awesome on battery life. I hate animations and this rom has the best ones I've ever seen. I use the phone heavily and at 11pm it still has 40% on the stock battery. Everyone says there rom has great battery life and they don't but AZs Rom does. I would like him to continue his dev work but if he must go then that's that. And we should remember his awesome work.
Sent from my EVO rocking AZ using XDA App
I have been a supporter since the day I rooted my phone. I have had no issues at all and definitely hope he changes his mind. Excellent work and thanks for your passion.
It is my ROM of choice and now use it exclusively.
I love the X rom...
I think the trouble most people have is from the different kernels. I run his rom with the stock #15 kernel. It's the only one that flies on my Evo. Any other kernel sucks!
I use it, and its the only rom ive had NO problems with. Id be very disappointed to see the development of this rom stop.
Az I used 3 other roms before flashing yours, and yours is the one that I liked best. I tried a few of the other roms from the devs that I liked on my hero but I didn't like theirs as much as I love yours. So if you do decide to go please add me to your mailing list. I would be honored.
P.S. I check every day to see if you have posted an updated rom.
Take care my friend
Sent from my Fast as F*ck Az'ed out Evo using the XDA app.
for me is the best so far, even convinced my co-workers to give it a try, and they love it too
I have never used Azrael's ROM, but that's just because I've been stuck on a different ROM for a while now, and haven't strayed from it yet. It saddens me to hear of this, possibly losing a dev from the community. I love having so many options for different ROMs, and I find them all to be great, and have different tweaks and features that fit different scenarios. I have never heard anything bad about Azrael's ROM, just the oppositte actually, people praising it. I am not up to par on the type of comments people were saying about it, that prompted his (for free!!!) decision, but I find that terrible. People should show nothing but respect and support for the devs here, and the hard work that they put in. And as far as I know, it seems that most of the devs here work together, and trade info and what not. I hope that people step up and show him support so that his decision can be reversed.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and that is what the thread voting and rating system is intended for. BUT there is a very small handful of members here that need to learn to show some respect! Life isn't perfect and neither is each and every custom ROM. Those who down rate a ROM thread because they have some technical difficulties are morons!
I have yet to see a ROM thread where the dev does not ask the community to please report any issues you find. So how can anybody be so dumb and down rate just for spite?
Rick, I can totally understand how you must feel to put a ton of pride and effort into this nice custom ROM to have it all crushed by a few idiots who can't see past their own selfish moronic ego's. It's a shame these members can't somehow disappear and take their ungrateful selves far from this community and never come back! They will surely continue this childish behavior on other ROM threads. This community would be much much better off without this small handful of ungrateful [email protected][email protected]$!!! Please forgive my French...
Do what you think is best Rick, I totally understand. My advice is to sleep on it a few days and start over... there's always new things coming down the pipes and mabe one day you'll feel better about your much appreciated work. Don't let a couple of dumb punks distract you. We all know your work is at the very top of the list without a doubt. Those couple of spiteful members casting bad votes means nothing to this community. Believe me we ALL know you are the real deal when it comes to your work and awesome support!
Yes and i have never had a problem with his Roms. Hope he never leaves. Rick you rule!
a few words
I've been a longtime Lurker who does not post anything but I had to give this man some much needed appreciation. Hands down this Rom is the best that I have tried here. Its silky smooth while maintaining speed and awesome battery life. I really hope he decides to keep developing but I cant fault him for choosing not to. By the way I just donated to you ric. Hope this helps out the coffee fund.
The ONLY issue I had with his 3.0 rom was the tethering. Not the hotspot but the Android tethering. To this day Im not to sure what happened with it as it just quit on me one day. I didnt blame the rom itself if people read my posts, but I also know I sure as hell wouldnt vote someone down (whatever that is actually lol).
My little brother was talked into (by me), into using his 3.1 and he loves it,cept the android tethering is not working for him either. So other then the tethering issues (which im now leaning more towards rom issue, as im now running Mik and its working again flawlessly), his works been pretty awesome.
Yup, the Atrix 4G, the phone I was previously on, which my mom is currently using, just got a CM9 ICS ROM -_-;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445052
We need to start moving and trying to get ICS on the Nitro. Even the Rezound also got AOSP ICS port, albeit some things still borked.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-rezound-gets-pure-aosp-ice-cream-sandwich-port/
Despite all the talk of starting slow with some improvement ROMs and maybe a CM7, I hate to say this, but we need to get either CM9 or ICS, or at least some kind of progress towards it. Every phone out there, old and new, are getting ICS or CM9 infused into them, I don't believe we can't do so with ours. We will spark much more interest in people and members here and maybe even more Devs if we bring ICS to the table. What do you guys/gals think?
I agree.
This is my first Android device and I really enjoy it a lot, thus I hope this phone can get a lively community of mods, roms, etc. At the same time, the SGSII LTE HD will be launching on AT&T soon, and I think that in order for this community to thrive we need ICS before this launch. The SGSII LTE HD is just about equal to the Nitro HD as far as specs are concerned, many who demand 720p and LTE will have the choice between the Samsung and the LG. Due to reputation, Samsung will undoubtedly outsell the Nitro.
I write this not to be **** and try to boss around people who donate their time and receive no more than some meaningless "Thanks" count. I am very appreciative that we have people like Bytecode, Kernelpanic, Cloudraker, and Malnilliom. (sorry if I left some people out, these guys just came to mind)
Lastly, does anyone know where to get guides on doing things like "ROM-cooking" and CM ports. Like I said, this is my first Android phone and I really don't know where to begin looking for this kind of information.
red_solo_cup said:
I agree.
This is my first Android device and I really enjoy it a lot, thus I hope this phone can get a lively community of mods, roms, etc. At the same time, the SGSII LTE HD will be launching on AT&T soon, and I think that in order for this community to thrive we need ICS before this launch. The SGSII LTE HD is just about equal to the Nitro HD as far as specs are concerned, many who demand 720p and LTE will have the choice between the Samsung and the LG. Due to reputation, Samsung will undoubtedly outsell the Nitro.
I write this not to be **** and try to boss around people who donate their time and receive no more than some meaningless "Thanks" count. I am very appreciative that we have people like Bytecode, Kernelpanic, Cloudraker, and Malnilliom. (sorry if I left some people out, these guys just came to mind)
Lastly, does anyone know where to get guides on doing things like "ROM-cooking" and CM ports. Like I said, this is my first Android phone and I really don't know where to begin looking for this kind of information.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I didn't even know about the Skyrocket HD until someone mentioned it here on our thread, and I immediately thought to myself, "Aww F*** we are screwed now". I think it's a **** move by AT&T to release their "flagship" phone under LG and then less than a month later announce the Skyrocket HD. Sorry to say this, had I known they were gonna release the Skyrocket HD, I would've waited for it over the Nitro. But alas, what's done is done, there's no need to cry over spilled milk, the best thing to do is to move on and prove we have the better phone than Samsung does. Anyways, I never was a fan of Samsung Phones since they started making phones. I find they always look..cheap
So with that, again like red solo cup said, thank you to all who have contributed countless amount of time n effort to support us; Let's bring it to the next level!
aquariuz23 said:
Yeah, I didn't even know about the Skyrocket HD until someone mentioned it here on our thread, and I immediately thought to myself, "Aww F*** we are screwed now". I think it's a **** move by AT&T to release their "flagship" phone under LG and then less than a month later announce the Skyrocket HD. Sorry to say this, had I known they were gonna release the Skyrocket HD, I would've waited for it over the Nitro. But alas, what's done is done, there's no need to cry over spilled milk, the best thing to do is to move on and prove we have the better phone than Samsung does. Anyways, I never was a fan of Samsung Phones since they started making phones. I find they always look..cheap
So with that, again like red solo cup said, thank you to all who have contributed countless amount of time n effort to support us; Let's bring it to the next level!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
谢谢大家的努力，我也非常的相信，一定可以让我们的p930更好！
xudejiong said:
谢谢大家的努力，我也非常的相信，一定可以让我们的p930更好！
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"Thank you for your efforts, I am very sure, will be able to make our p930 better!"
Best of luck. LG phones usually have mediocre/poor dev support.
Heh , Dont have a nitro but i just synced CodeAurora ICS Port for MSM8660 (thanks to codeaurora for making life a bit easier for qcom products) , My first Task would be to port the kernel , Test it with CWM (before i brick my friend nitro)
Spartoi said:
Best of luck. LG phones usually have mediocre/poor dev support.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for the well wishes! The dev/support for this device made that mainpage of XDA! Lots of progress and hard work from several devs !
scott0 said:
Thank you for the well wishes! The dev/support for this device made that mainpage of XDA! Lots of progress and hard work from several devs !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does it mean great things when our device is on the main page? Or will it still get overlooked. Not being sarcastic, really curious.
Sent from my LG-P930 using XDA App
I'll be here but i can't port anything to any device as i'm not that knowledgable i could bring stock heavily modified roms though.
AllstarE4 said:
Does it mean great things when our device is on the main page? Or will it still get overlooked. Not being sarcastic, really curious.
Sent from my LG-P930 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't say anything was great, I would not know what great means in terms of development on a phone released 7 weeks ago.
N
In that time span a cwm has been developed and 2+ roms with atleast one more announced on the mainpage so someone here at xda seems to think that warrants front page headlines so I am trustin their judgement as well as acknowledging the hard work devs have already accomplished.
It all sounds good to me. I'm new to all of this so I just don't know what to expect.
Sent from my LG-P930 using XDA App
scott0 said:
I didn't say anything was great, I would not know what great means in terms of development on a phone released 7 weeks ago.
N
In that time span a cwm has been developed and 2+ roms with atleast one more announced on the mainpage so someone here at xda seems to think that warrants front page headlines so I am trustin their judgement as well as acknowledging the hard work devs have already accomplished.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im very curious what Revolution is trying to bring to the table with his Domination HD Rom. More as the story progresses
WE should not even be thinking about sense/CM9 roms on here for awhile.
Quite frankly, I don't think CM will ever get around to making a ROM for this phone.
CM9 is being ported to the Lag Nitro by Ricardo Cerqueira. Head out to his Google+ to see what he's done.
gerax07 said:
CM9 is being ported to the Lag Nitro by Ricardo Cerqueira. Head out to his Google+ to see what he's done.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup, we've known that for the past couple of weeks gerax thanks for spreading the word though. it's keeping the hopes alive for this phone
im giving up on this optimus lte, im selling it, or trading for a galaxy nexus,
the dev community seems slow, and not any CUSTOM roms, just de-bloated stock roms, there isnt even a real promise of ICS, just a TBD... and i just feel i like the nexus overall better then this anyways, to much hassle over rom flashing and potential corrupting of the filesystem which cause's softbricks and me alot of headaches....
the nexus just seems so much more custom rom friendly
Thanks for letting us all know. I'll alert high command of the situation.
was a smarta$$ reply really needed... typical tho, shoulda been expected from a newbie to the forum...
You were mistaken in thinking anyone here cares. What does making this thread accomplish? Are you trying to make other people give up too? I just don't see the point in posting this. You're just going to get negative replies from Nitro HD fans. And it's not like you've contributed anything, either.
why the need for bashing eh ?
does it make you feel better??
the point was to just state that this particular device was no longer of interest to me, and for some that have maybe read my issues with device and the fact that there is not many that are dev'ing for the device, that maybe some would reconsider getting one, not everyone needs 100% POSITIVE loyal fan love bs, some would love to hear and see the truth about issues and such as they wouldnt want to be stuck with something that would cause them problems in the future,
and for another " youve not contributed anything either " comment... for your personal information, im learning android coding, apps, and os information right now, ive been to college for video game design and development and web design... and its people like you that make me not want to contribute anything.. negative remarks, rude comments, and overall bashing of a person is not helpful, nice, or deserved...
so maybe in the future... YOU should think first before typing and learn that everyone starts somewhere... and stuff like this, makes me not want to contribute,...
anyways, point in case, im trading my lg-p930 tonight with my friend for his galaxy nexus, im sure ill be happier with it as ill be able to code for it and learn to dev alot easier with an official google branded device...
if you dont like this thread... DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR... DONT POST IN IT
BTW, I've been around in this forum for a while now, since early days of htc's and win mobile rom cooking, ive made some of my very own personal winmo roms for my htc diamond and previous oldies,
and i do know what im doing with this stuff as its been a sort of hobby for me to mess with stuff and not keep it stock, something always has to be messed with in my collection, and all i was basically trying to state was that i gave up on this device for learning to dev with, ok,
tnap1979 said:
why the need for bashing eh ?
does it make you feel better??
the point was to just state that this particular device was no longer of interest to me, and for some that have maybe read my issues with device and the fact that there is not many that are dev'ing for the device, that maybe some would reconsider getting one, not everyone needs 100% POSITIVE loyal fan love bs, some would love to hear and see the truth about issues and such as they wouldnt want to be stuck with something that would cause them problems in the future,
and for another " youve not contributed anything either " comment... for your personal information, im learning android coding, apps, and os information right now, ive been to college for video game design and development and web design... and its people like you that make me not want to contribute anything.. negative remarks, rude comments, and overall bashing of a person is not helpful, nice, or deserved...
so maybe in the future... YOU should think first before typing and learn that everyone starts somewhere... and stuff like this, makes me not want to contribute,...
anyways, point in case, im trading my lg-p930 tonight with my friend for his galaxy nexus, im sure ill be happier with it as ill be able to code for it and learn to dev alot easier with an official google branded device...
if you dont like this thread... DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR... DONT POST IN IT
BTW, I've been around in this forum for a while now, since early days of htc's and win mobile rom cooking, ive made some of my very own personal winmo roms for my htc diamond and previous oldies,
and i do know what im doing with this stuff as its been a sort of hobby for me to mess with stuff and not keep it stock, something always has to be messed with in my collection, and all i was basically trying to state was that i gave up on this device for learning to dev with, ok,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow what a hypocrite,
so maybe in the future... YOU should think first before typing and learn that everyone starts somewhere
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am learning java and will be moving on to the AP course next year. I have taken web page design and am also moving onto the AP course of that next year. Post count means nothing. But pointing out that fact that you put nearly no thought into your post exemplifies why this thread was started in the first place. So please keep your unhelpful thoughts to yourself.
really.. explain how that was being a hypocrite??
the poster above my previous post stated that basically i should not post cuz i have not contributed, so to speak..
all i stated was that i was unhappy with it, and that i prefered to move onto something else, and to let others with the same possible ideas as me to see that maybe this is not the device for them... that is all...
anyways, this is going nowhere with anything anyways as you both seem to think so ignore it and remove yourself from the topic in your CP settings
tnap1979 said:
really.. explain how that was being a hypocrite??
the poster above my previous post stated that basically i should not post cuz i have not contributed, so to speak..
all i stated was that i was unhappy with it, and that i prefered to move onto something else, and to let others with the same possible ideas as me to see that maybe this is not the device for them... that is all...
anyways, this is going nowhere with anything anyways as you both seem to think so ignore it and remove yourself from the topic in your CP settings
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You said
was a smarta$$ reply really needed... typical tho, shoulda been expected from a newbie to the forum...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now why does my post count matter? I have been looking at this forum for years and just made my account to help contribute with the development for the Nitro/Optimus LTE because it is my first smartphone. This is my last post in this thread as it should probably be deleted by a mod anyway. Have fun with your Nexus, nobody will miss you.
yermommy said:
So please keep your unhelpful thoughts to yourself.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same goes to you mister.
@tnap1979:
I'll wait for HTC X One and Samsung Skyrocket HD to come out then select one. I don't think I'll stick with Nitro even if ICS released tomorrow...I need my compass and Skullcandy earphones!
thanks [email protected] for some understanding...
if it wasnt for the fact the LG has put me thru so much BS, i might be happy with its hardware, but is just not as friendly as a HTC or Samsung....
htc's and samsung's i know i can recover from super easy, not have a bunch of hassle and be able to come and go quick and simple from any type of custom rom i want...
i still havent figured out if this device has a fastboot mode or anything other then recovery and download mode... ive wanted to find out how to mess with ics... but it refuses to let it boot, and where as the nexus or even my old atrix for that matter have ics, my friends gs2 has ics, and our device has been " promised " ics... but ive heard tell of lg not holding up there end of the bargain on some devices..
might also help if LG was a lil more DEV friendly with their devices as well...
HTC even gives the chance to unlock your bootloader just for that purpose
now i know that the lg p930 does have an unlocked boot loader, but the filesystem seems to not be user friendly to CWM
which makes it difficult for some work to get done if you happen to make mistakes in code or whatever
Bye bye
sent from LG OPTIMUS LTE using Tapatalk
8mileroad said:
You were mistaken in thinking anyone here cares. What does making this thread accomplish? Are you trying to make other people give up too? I just don't see the point in posting this. You're just going to get negative replies from Nitro HD fans. And it's not like you've contributed anything, either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You've definitely proven that you have the attention span of a 12 year old. We all know about one developers' attempt to make ICS available, yet is unable to do so as he is nearly the only developer that works with LG devices. In other words we won't get an ICS ROM any time soon, as he is putting focus into other LG devices. Now if you also notice, he is working on a ROM for the AT&T Nitro HD, not the Bell Optimus LTE. Where does that leave us Bell users? Dumping the phone up on for-sale websites in attempt to recoup what we lost after LG screwed us with the release of the 4X. Yes, that's right, LG released their quad core phone with ICS on it... hmm...
Now you may love the IPS LCD that this phone offers. That's all fine and dandy, but when you have a $500 device in your hands, you'd expect to have some manufacturer and developer support behind it. One developer and a lack of initiative from LG to release the update has pissed off quite a few of us. We're already into March (Q2) and ICS has not been released as LG stated. As tn stated, LG devices and LG themselves are not friendly to the developer community.
LiViD said:
You've definitely proven that you have the attention span of a 12 year old. We all know about one developers' attempt to make ICS available, yet is unable to do so as he is nearly the only developer that works with LG devices. In other words we won't get an ICS ROM any time soon, as he is putting focus into other LG devices. Now if you also notice, he is working on a ROM for the AT&T Nitro HD, not the Bell Optimus LTE. Where does that leave us Bell users? Dumping the phone up on for-sale websites in attempt to recoup what we lost after LG screwed us with the release of the 4X. Yes, that's right, LG released their quad core phone with ICS on it... hmm...
Now you may love the IPS LCD that this phone offers. That's all fine and dandy, but when you have a $500 device in your hands, you'd expect to have some manufacturer and developer support behind it. One developer and a lack of initiative from LG to release the update has pissed off quite a few of us. We're already into March (Q2) and ICS has not been released as LG stated. As tn stated, LG devices and LG themselves are not friendly to the developer community.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a Bell Optimus LTE using kernelpanics rom and I have had no issues to speak of. So I'm confident that the CM9 release for the nitro (whenever it ends up releasing) will work on my phone.
I must say that LG's marketing is 2 blame in this poor situation. It's been 1M pieces sold in 2 month BUT it could be 3M to 5M if they have it in shops in india, china, europe and c.i.s.
P880 4X HD is gonna be available only in summer, way too long to wait. LG is digging hole for themselves, they give up market share to samsung Nexus and Note and HTC, & Xperia S
Nitro is a perfect piece of android, way better then Nexuses & other amoled s*1t and poor LG makes nothing to spread its popularity
i agree whole heartedly, the lg p930 is amazing hardware, with crap all for proper dev support and lg's track record does not help them in this matter at all...
well... this phone is as stable as an iphone !
coming from a galaxy kingdom " S S2 note" i can honestly say i always used to flash custom ROMs for a couple of hours but at the end of the day when i go to sleep i have the original one again for stability most of all
at least for the first time in so long i don't waste hours on flashing and restoring data and finding bugs and so on ..... till it end up restoring my backed up original rom and settings !
sure custom roms have their ups and downs but..... the phone is stable guys !
it doesn't have the crappy touchwiz or the need of lagfix ... etc
deploating fixed the lag and the battery..... what else do i want ?! since its not sense UI from HTC nor MIUI or even a worthy and heavy tweaking then i really cant see the need for Devs or to flash our phones !
but thats just me... someone enjoying one of the best screen there is on the rarest high end phone with a quality specs
BTW: anyone else tried playing MKV on this phone and galaxy note ?
trust me u will be surprised
is your lg gets really HOT when using gps and car charging?
or playing game and car charging? the freaking phone get really hot and it would STOP charging! you know you will run out of battery cus the freaking phone stop charging when it' HOT!
so this lg is not reliable! i switched back to my old phone samsung skyrocket! no, my skyrocket never get hot like this.
LiViD said:
You've definitely proven that you have the attention span of a 12 year old. We all know about one developers' attempt to make ICS available, yet is unable to do so as he is nearly the only developer that works with LG devices. In other words we won't get an ICS ROM any time soon, as he is putting focus into other LG devices. Now if you also notice, he is working on a ROM for the AT&T Nitro HD, not the Bell Optimus LTE. Where does that leave us Bell users? Dumping the phone up on for-sale websites in attempt to recoup what we lost after LG screwed us with the release of the 4X. Yes, that's right, LG released their quad core phone with ICS on it... hmm...
Now you may love the IPS LCD that this phone offers. That's all fine and dandy, but when you have a $500 device in your hands, you'd expect to have some manufacturer and developer support behind it. One developer and a lack of initiative from LG to release the update has pissed off quite a few of us. We're already into March (Q2) and ICS has not been released as LG stated. As tn stated, LG devices and LG themselves are not friendly to the developer community.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First off, how does me saying, basically, "stop *****ing and be patient," make me have any sort of lack of an attention span? We're all frustrated about this phone but most people who frequent here have seen enough *****ing. It's our own damn faults for buying this phone anyway. However, the phone goes a long way when you wipe the internal storage and let the battery break in. It's pretty snappy with GO Launcher and I get a full day of use now. The only problem is the lack of devs, but we've heard this a million times now. Just 21 more months to go... hopefully we'll get ICS by then.
netnerd said:
is your lg gets really HOT when using gps and car charging?
or playing game and car charging? the freaking phone get really hot and it would STOP charging! you know you will run out of battery cus the freaking phone stop charging when it' HOT!
so this lg is not reliable! i switched back to my old phone samsung skyrocket! no, my skyrocket never get hot like this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it does ?! is everyone else noticed this heat thing ??
i am sorry i never noticed any heat from this phone ! and this is someone always setting on an airplane watching movies and playing games for hours and using a portable charger as well !
on the other hand..... i used to suffer from heat with the galaxy S2 the international version. sometimes it was so HOT i couldnt even make a phone call from it
vodovodo said:
it does ?! is everyone else noticed this heat thing ??
i am sorry i never noticed any heat from this phone ! and this is someone always setting on an airplane watching movies and playing games for hours and using a portable charger as well !
on the other hand..... i used to suffer from heat with the galaxy S2 the international version. sometimes it was so HOT i couldnt even make a phone call from it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
probably portable charger doesnt output that much power, that why it' doesnt overheat.
but when i using car charging, the LG does overheat. i also have samsung skyrocket, it never hot like that.
I have been at this for a long time now. But when I start the camera..it says "gallery stopped working"
I'm on cm10.1 rc5
I tried flashing the camera zip
I tried pushing the files via root explorer setting permission to rw-r-r-
Gallery works but camera crashes...
Help is appreciated!
Maybe,just maybe, because i'm a total n00b,photosphere will not work on non-nexus devices?it doesn't matter if you have the apps related to photospehere,it's coded to nexus framework.it was a while ago working on chad's CM 10.1,but now i don't know, he was complaining about google blocking photosphere on non nexus devices. And chad's cm has nexus4 kernel base,not like the official CM, which has lg source.
so,again, n00bish question, why do you think it would work on G?
if you want photosphere, get a nexus device.if you want photosphere on optimus g, buy nexus device.
Maybe because I read somewhere on xda that people had it working on a optimus g.
It has been reported to work on lot of non nexus devices...so that's why I asked..
well, go to that detailed "somewhere" source and use their procedure.If you would've paid attention to what i said, you'd find out photospehere WAS indeed working,but only on chad's CM,at least on his earlier versions.I saw about a week or so ago chad saying something about google blocking photosphere.
If you want photosphere that much, check his thread.But he has at least 2 major bugs on his rom :
1. Call bug.
2.no focus on camera.
Nr. 2 is redundand,since you want CAMERA features,having a camera with problems,will make photosphere kinda useless, right?
If you don't believe me,go ahead and try.
Maybe it's me but you seem a bit aggressive in your reaction.
I'm just asking a normal question about a function I'm missing and, call me silly, I'm expecting a normal friendly answer.
If this is the way people normally react on the lg optimus portion of the XDA forum than this phone is getting old really fast!!!
So you either get your act together or stop posting on these forums.....idiot!!!
ibila said:
Maybe it's me but you seem a bit aggressive in your reaction.!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, it's you. My attitude is just fine.
ibila said:
I'm just asking a normal question about a function I'm missing and, call me silly, I'm expecting a normal friendly answer.!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Normal question?Maybe in nexus4 section, not optimus G.you'd think an important feature like photosphere would've been mentioned here alot, don't you?
ibila said:
If this is the way people normally react on the lg optimus portion of the XDA forum than this phone is getting old really fast!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want a pad on your back or a hug, you came in the wrong place. I choose the way of giving people information.If they ask stupid questions, i give them smartass answers.Maybe next time they will use search function.BTW,that answer is from one of the top developers here. So you may wanna take on him too.You're saying this device is getting old fast?So?your point?We only have a handful of devs :
- CM team for official CM -but they will not consider any bug/requests
- chad - with his kernel and cm (with the issues i mentioned before)
- thinking bridge team - but their project is based on official CM
- houstonn(but he's more into canadian section, not international G),
- shelnutt2,autoprime and fiddy619 "guilty" of making freegee and for rooting
- bippi79 - avatar rom
- a few others i won't mention here,because you can see for yourself.Which one of them should start working right away on your request?
ibila said:
So you either get your act together or stop posting on these forums.....idiot!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got my act together just fine,thank you.You don't like it?Maybe you should stop asking this kind of things if you don't want to get such answers. Bottom line, either you buy yourself a nexus for photosphere or you start porting it yourself.Then share your work here,for free, after alot of time spent, only to see ignorants not happy with it and asking for more.
Bye.
/thread ignored.not worth the trouble reading.
Well dear friend..you just inspired me to trade my OG for an N4...
Not because of the photosphere feature...but.because of your attitude!!!
If you set the "standard" for this community, frankly my dear, i dont want to part of it!!!!
Fantastic job, I hope your proud of yourself!!!
Just a short contribution. I've had the exact same problem as you, and everything that's said here is pretty much spot on. It will only work with Chad's CM and his modified gapps (not sure if it still works). Although I really would love to have the function, we currently just have to accept that since photosphere isn't part of the aosp (I believe?), which makes it not open source it's not so easy to port to any other phone. Even if we basically have a nexus 4 :/
While the nexus4 will have much more development (and photosphere ofc) this is still a pretty awesome phone that has most mainstream roms ported and some really nice devs here.
kiwinazgul said:
Just a short contribution. I've had the exact same problem as you, and everything that's said here is pretty much spot on. It will only work with Chad's CM and his modified gapps (not sure if it still works). Although I really would love to have the function, we currently just have to accept that since photosphere isn't part of the aosp (I believe?), which makes it not open source it's not so easy to port to any other phone. Even if we basically have a nexus 4 :/
While the nexus4 will have much more development (and photosphere ofc) this is still a pretty awesome phone that has most mainstream roms ported and some really nice devs here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for this clear and friendly anwser. I guess we just have to wait then!
Guess im wrong and kimitza does not set the standard for the friendlyness in the community here. :good:
ibila said:
Thank you for this clear and friendly anwser. I guess we just have to wait then!
Guess im wrong and kimitza does not set the standard for the friendlyness in the community here. :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your question was definitely legit since there has been pretty much no talk about the photosphere on our phone. I hope its opened up or some workaround to get it working in the future since I think its an awesome function and personally I feel its not worth downgrading to a Nexus 4 just for it though.
Well,dream on. Samsung has it's tw and framework closed,same with htc and the other manufacturers.google must have some cherry picks too.just pure android is not enough.so,google found this nice pick,called photosphere.i know it worked on chad's cm.i was one of the users reporting photosphere working,but not anymore.when google updated it's source,they also add a small code line to detect non nexus devices.
About my friendlyness,we are not here to join hands and sing kumbaya.we are here to share and gain knowledge.i'm learning something new almost everyday and i try to contribute as much as i can. If this makes me an idiot,because someone doesn't know what questions to ask or he can't use a simple forum search function,then i am an idiot.
Only if he knew i helped alot of people here,since my days on galaxy s forum,3 years ago.
Well,have a good life.
Sent from LG E975 pwd by CM 10.1
If there is one thing I have learned trough the years ( I've been here since HTC dream) is that every forum has an a-hole and guess what!!! Your the a-hole on this one. Best way to interact with them is to just ignore them...so that what I will do!
Please go bother someone else on nexus4 area.ingrats like you will never be satisfied unless they have their asses kissed.you're not the center of the universe so no one owes you squat. When a person starts to offend another,it just shows how intelectually limited that person is.i gave you cold hard arguments on the subject,the only dev that made photosphere work for G says it won't work anymore because google blocked non nexus devices and what do you do?you start calling me names,like you know me.i'm sick and tired of ignorants like you. Only if i had a dime for every time i met a person like you....
Sent from LG E975 pwd by CM 10.1
kimitza said:
Please go bother someone else on nexus4 area.ingrats like you will never be satisfied unless they have their asses kissed.you're not the center of the universe so no one owes you squat. When a person starts to offend another,it just shows how intelectually limited that person is.i gave you cold hard arguments on the subject,the only dev that made photosphere work for G says it won't work anymore because google blocked non nexus devices and what do you do?you start calling me names,like you know me.i'm sick and tired of ignorants like you. Only if i had a dime for every time i met a person like you....
Sent from LG E975 pwd by CM 10.1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You were the first one starting with insults in your first reply. If you had just said that "some week ago it looks like Google patched out non-nexus phones" it would have ended in a third post saying "Okay, thanks". Now lets stop the drama and continue on. For now its not possible, but we never know in the future, this is a development forum after all.