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End Data Connection automatically

Is there a tool that disconnects EDGE after closing internet explorer or opera mini? S60 devices as well as the iphone has that capability and it's quite strange why windows mobile doesn't.

Hi there,
sorry, but, what for?
EDGE (as GPRS) is charged per volume ... This is quite an increase of usability. Do you remember using the internet by phoneline? When you were charged by the time you were online, no matter if you did something or not? Would you pay for gas even if your car is in your garage at home with the engine not running.
???

Sorry, I should have mentioned earlier that I'm in the US. So when my phone is connected to EDGE, I can't receive any calls. I have an unlimited data plan, so that's not my problem. My issues arise when exchange uses EDGE to check for emails, EDGE will remain connected and I won't get calls unless I manually keep disconnecting EDGE. My alternative is to use manual checks for emails and then disconnect the data connection after that. Do you see the inconvenience here?

Hi,
aah, ok, got it. But still don't understand, for blocking calls while edge is running is not the default behavior. In my case, these two work together very well, when receiving a call, edge is cut off and reconnects after the call is finished.
What kind of mobile are you using? Maybe there's help for you in the appropriate subforum. Hope you'll get this soluted, that's really inconvenient.
Best regards,

Simultaneous call and data

Just started using my Desire last night! Feeling good.
However...
Was just on a call, tried to use the Android Marketplace. Couldn't.
Got curious, and tried to use Google Maps mid call. Couldn't.
Tried to use the internet during the call. Couldn't.
Now, I'm on T-Mobile (UK) and have just come from a Nokia E71. With my E71 I could make a call and use Google Maps.
Am I missing something or is this bit of multitasking somehow not possible???
Please tell me I'm missing something!

Cleargrey said:
Just started using my Desire last night! Feeling good.
However...
Was just on a call, tried to use the Android Marketplace. Couldn't.
Got curious, and tried to use Google Maps mid call. Couldn't.
Tried to use the internet during the call. Couldn't.
Now, I'm on T-Mobile (UK) and have just come from a Nokia E71. With my E71 I could make a call and use Google Maps.
Am I missing something or is this bit of multitasking somehow not possible???
Please tell me I'm missing something!
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A lot of carriers don't currently support simultaneous data and voice. For example, I have Sprint and it has no support for this - very annoying.
AT&T is the only one I'm personally aware that supports both talking and using data at the same time.
If it doesn't work for you, you're out of luck with your carrier.

Archon810 said:
A lot of carriers don't currently support simultaneous data and voice. For example, I have Sprint and it has no support for this - very annoying.
AT&T is the only one I'm personally aware that supports both talking and using data at the same time.
If it doesn't work for you, you're out of luck with your carrier.
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Sprint is a CDMA network, and most CDMA networks don't currently support simultaneous voice and data.
Most GSM networks do support this when you have a 3G connection. The voice call is routed over 2G and the data over 3G. If your data connection drops down to GPRS or EDGE, you will lose data connectivity because most networks do not support simultaneous voice and data over 2G, though I'm told that they can be set up to do so, so I guess it's more down to bandwidth.
Regards,
Dave

I know that Sprint's CDMA has an issue with simultaneous data and voice. Which suck. And I know they are making good attempts to sort this out for the EVO, which is good.
But again, I've been doing this fine on my E71. The only thing I can think of, in relation to Dave's comments, is that for some reason, because the Desire can suck up more data, T-mobile have restricted it. Which would suprise me because, as Dave said, simultaneous voice and data is a feature of most GSM networks and has been for a while.

I have just tested that and it's true - the phone doesn't have simultaneous data and voice connection
Now normally I don't need that because if I talk, I talk and not browse the web, but even my freaking G1 could do both things at the same time. What the heck? It must be something HTC did.
One more reason to eagerly wait for root...

I don't see how this is a big deal. Why would you need to make a call AND browse the market place or look at maps etc? Surely it's something that can be done after the call even if it is receiving directions or whatever.

ephumuris said:
I don't see how this is a big deal. Why would you need to make a call AND browse the market place or look at maps etc? Surely it's something that can be done after the call even if it is receiving directions or whatever.
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It's a big deal because:
1. HTC (or T-Mobile) has obviously done something to disable it because Android with GSM should have such functionality;
2. Older Android phones and even some "dumbphones" have that functionality
3. No point in browsing market while talking, but what about looking up maps while talking? - That was even one of G1's selling points.

I have often been on a call and used the internet or searched Maps. So it's something that I am quite used to doing.
Though I thought I'd get an answer straight from the horses mouth and have emailed HTC support just now. I'm hoping they give me good news...

False alarm. This only happens on GPRS, which is normal. Simultaneous data and voice connection can only happen on 3G as explained in Android Forums.

and of course correctly explained by Dave in post #3 here.

rhedgehog said:
and of course correctly explained by Dave in post #3 here.
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Missed that. Sorry

ephumuris said:
I don't see how this is a big deal. Why would you need to make a call AND browse the market place or look at maps etc? Surely it's something that can be done after the call even if it is receiving directions or whatever.
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Kind of tired of explaining this one but here are the 2 use cases:
- you're talking with someone on the phone and they ask you for directions, look something up on the internet, see if you received their email, etc, etc
- and even more importantly, when my rooted phone acts as a WiFi access point with android-wifi-tether and someone calls me, my freaking Inet disappears until I'm off the phone. This is the more annoying of the 2 use cases.

Well, this was their reply:
"If you start the call being connected through 2G, then yes the internet will then work. But as soon as the signal goes over to 3G then the internet connection and usuage will be turned off.
When it comes to wifi, if you are in a call and you are connected to wifi, then you should be able to surf.
Hope this answers your questions.
Thank you for contacting HTC. "
I did get concerned for a second. I've just tried the wifi and call which worked. And I just tried a call again, with wifi turned off and it worked, even though it didn't work before.
I just hope it routes voice and data in a way that doesn't trip me up in the future. I.e. voice over 2G if I'm trying to access data.
So yes, false alarm.
And funnily enough I just now got a call from Carphonewarehouse asking me if I'm having a problem sending texts as some Desires do indeed have a software fault where they have no Service Centre number for messages. For once, I've skipped the faulty units!
Cheers guys. Sorry scare anyone.

lol.
Whoever it was at HTC got their 2G and 3G mixed up.
what they meant to say was if it goes down to 2G then it'll stop.
You'll be ok in general, as long as you have 3G signal wherever you are. If you've only got 2G, you'll have to hang up, find out and then call back!
the SMSC shouldn't be a problem though, just program it in manually. Not worth sending a phone back for unless it fails then as well.

Even if I'm on 3G/HSPA, when I call someone, as soon as the call is connected, my data connection disappears (only shows bars, no G, 3G, or H) and I can't browse the web or use maps while in-call :-/

ok, well that's not right. The bars should only disappear if you turn the mobile data off. it should not get turned off by a call. Even if i try it when in G, the bars stay showing, just no data comes till i hang up the call.
If the bars are disappearing, something else is going on.
It could be a local network issue. maybe it's an old transmitter that missed an update or something...?could possibly be a full tower.
I know that a few years ago, the towers would kick off data connections to allow more airtime for voice calls which have priority, but i don't know if that's still relevant on 3G.

This was a hot discussion back when the Hero came out as well.
In the end I think it comes down to the network of your carrier. Some people report they can internet and call at the same time. Others say when they are internetting on their phone, a call is directly forwarded to their voicemail etc.
I'm afraid it's a combination between how your carrier configures their network and on what connection you are on (3g, 2g etc).

Yeah it's false alarm no #2 -- must be a spotty 3G at my house. I went to the city centre and tried it there -- worked like a charm.
Though it's a bit weird as 3G speed is not bad at all at my house, but when I call, data connection goes off :-/

Maybe at the city center you got more cells in range than in your house. Means your carrier got more available bandwith

I think reception gets spotty. Sometimes voice and data works, sometimes it doesn't. At home in my bedroom I can get H connection, 20 meters away I can't.
I think the important thing is that the phone is capable. The rest is just pinning down exactly the situation that we want to avoid.

Odd connection issue

It started yesterday and I don't know why. Go to check my weather, hit update and after about 10 seconds I get a bubble telling me that an unknown connection error ocurred and to try again later. I can make phone calls, send and receive texts, but can't check my weather. If I soft reset it works fine. Today, go to check my weather again and same problem. Been making phone calls and texting all morning without issue. Soft reset and again it works fine. Obviously, something is going wrong with my data connection over time, but what could cause it to just shut down completely requiring a soft reset to fix?

More weirdness. I tried manually turning on my data connection in the Connection Manager and as quickly as I turn it on it turns itself off. WTF! I haven't done/added anything to the phone in a week. Is this something on AT$T's end, could they be blocking me from using data for some reason?
About 2 weeks ago I did some regedit to have the data connection turn off automatically after 5 mins of non-use. It was working fine after that and anytime it needed a data connection it would make it. I don't remember where the setting was to change it back, but I doubt this is the problem because this issue just started yesterday.

I'm on AT&T also, on the new leaked ROM, and I have exactly the same issue. It started about 2-3 weeks ago, and I noticed the connection drops overnight (during the day I have no problems), and it'll only come back after restart or reset. I think it's AT&T's network...

Miami_Son said:
Is this something on AT$T's end, could they be blocking me from using data for some reason?.
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Maybe they work on improving their towers and network lol

T-Mobile does that also.
i get a Could not coonect bubble,and have to manualy enable my data conection.If you guys are Tethering our providers automaticly drop our priority level...Unlimited my ass,they tried to cap me at Edge speed and all i had to do was disable/enable the data conection to blast 3g...

I found the problem, but I still don't know what caused it. I'm leaning towards something done on AT$T's end. I have always had my phone configured to use the AT$T ISP in network properties. Apparently, it no longer likes this setting. Switched back to MediaNet and all is working just fine. Problem is that when I first got the phone I did speed tests using both settings and AT$T ISP was faster, so that's why I set it that way. I can't test it now because it won't stay connected with that setting. Can AT$T block users from a particular connection? I don't tether and the most data I've ever used was 280mb last month. Hardly a reason to block me.

I'm not thethering either, my usage is roughly 600 MB/mo and my network is already set to MediaNet. This problem started recently, didn't have it before.

Looks like it is something going on with AT$T. A number of my friends from different states have reported issues over the past 2 weeks with several having severe connection issues the past few days. These are people on varying devices including iPhones, Blackberrys and smartphones. I hope it is due to AT$T finally upgrading their network and not overload from all the new iPhone users and abusive tetherers.

Data drop after changing data source

After having my Galaxy Nexus for a few weeks I'd like to share my experiences with 'possible' data connectivity issues.
Firstly,
Upon first activating my phone at an official Verizon store I noticed that I lost data and voice services for almost 20 minutes after the phone was first activated. Toggling of 3G/4G, Airplane mode, and even rebooting (battery pull) would not fix the problem... It eventually just started working and has been fairly reliable ever since.
On the second day of owning the phone I unlocked / rooted... Still using the stock rom, antenna, and kernel though.
Secondly,
I've started to notice that every time I switch data sources.... For instance
*Turning off Wifi when connected to an AP
*Turning off 4G services
I'll completely lose data connectivity for a period of seconds; no longer than a minute (all gray reception bars). However, I can still make calls and send texts. My question is, is this behavior normal for the device? I've never owned a 4G device before so I'm ignorant to the matter. I'm simply inquiring as if this is a sign of a faulty antenna VZW is going to owe me a brand new device (not some refurbished crap either...). If this is typical, then I suppose it's just the nature of the beast. Either way, I've love to hear from others regarding their experiences.... Thanks!
Regards,
-Doug

When I had the thunderbolt data would drop in and out when switching from 3/4G and from wifi.

when you are switching from wifi to 4g/3g, it has to change your IP address, as its a different network. 4g to 3g viceversa it has to switch what frequency it is talking on, and reestablish communication with your carrier. switching data source will always drop data during the switch.
some later software upgrades have, and will reduce the time between switches, but there will always be some form of drop

Difference between Smart Switch and Wifi Calling....and performance questions

I've read (and THINK I understand) what smart switch is supposed to do (going all the way back to the Note4.
And it seems like the complete opposite of what wifi calling does.
Anyone care to explain the difference or real reasons one is used over the other?
Also on a related note, in the developer options category there is an option to turn on "Aggressive Wi-Fi cell h.."
With the explanation "switch from wifi to mobile networks more quickly when wifi signal is weak"
Kind of self explanatory and my question would be real work use. If you have unlimited data, any reason you would NOT want to check this?
Unless this just sounds great, but doesn't work well......
Thoughts?

vtcats said:
I've read (and THINK I understand) what smart switch is supposed to do (going all the way back to the Note4.
And it seems like the complete opposite of what wifi calling does.
Anyone care to explain the difference or real reasons one is used over the other?
Also on a related note, in the developer options category there is an option to turn on "Aggressive Wi-Fi cell h.."
With the explanation "switch from wifi to mobile networks more quickly when wifi signal is weak"
Kind of self explanatory and my question would be real work use. If you have unlimited data, any reason you would NOT want to check this?
Unless this just sounds great, but doesn't work well......
Thoughts?
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Smart switch imports the data from your old phone when you switch to a Samsung phone; WiFi calling routes voice traffic over WiFi when available.

Sorry, I meant to say Smart NETWORK Switch. It says your phone will be connected to a mobile network if Wifi becomes unstable.
And Wi-fi calling kinda of says the exact opposite. If mobile becomes unstable, it will switch to Wifi......
Anyone?

Many times.. even when the wifi signal is weak, as long as wifi is turned on, the phone will remain connected to it. This especially happens when you are just pulling out of your house and you are trying to get to google maps for directions or something.. but because the phone is still connected to your home wifi, it'll remain so and since the connection is weak, you won't be able to browse or anything and google maps may say "no network connection".
I believe what Smart Network Switch does, is that in such cases, it'll immediately switch to mobile data.

androidbuff123 said:
Many times.. even when the wifi signal is weak, as long as wifi is turned on, the phone will remain connected to it. This especially happens when you are just pulling out of your house and you are trying to get to google maps for directions or something.. but because the phone is still connected to your home wifi, it'll remain so and since the connection is weak, you won't be able to browse or anything and google maps may say "no network connection".
I believe what Smart Network Switch does, is that in such cases, it'll immediately switch to mobile data.
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This happens to me every morning in my driveway trying to route Waze. I get a weak wifi signal that the phone hangs onto and I get a no network error from Waze.