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Hi All
FYI - A new upodate available at HTC for SEA non-branded TP2's.
ROM Version 2.07.707.1
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
http://www.htc.com/sea/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=250&act=sd&cat=all
This one updates to a new version of Sense Ui and other stuff.
Impressions?
1. No Task Manager that can be utilised from the Home Screen (so how to change apps..?).
No Task Manager also means you can't readily see how much RAM is being hogged by the system.
2. No missed calls provision on Home Screen either..?
You do get the small icon on the top bar, a pop-up message AND the LED (green) actually flashes now - had to hack it before to do that.
3. Perhaps it's just mine, but to me the proximity sensor does not work now - it used too.
4. The shortcut Icons are stupidly large (3 per row).
5. The Programs Tab has been removed - this is a drag as the WinMo Programs area is still not dragable (just a go to the top option).
6. The Music Tab seems to now work better - at least it shows Album Art correctly now!
7. There's a Twitter Tab- not that i use it.
8. Calendar works differently.
9. Older Opera than current.
10. Older Google Maps than current.
11. It seems to be way louder than before too, both thru speaker and earpiece on a call - yay!!
12. The People Tab has changed to the new style - good.
13. FYI, SRS W0W (Sector HD2 version) still sends this version into no wakeup from Stand By mode - Damn!
13. New start animation (HTC-Simply Brilliant).
14. New background animations for Screen and Lock Screen.
15. Still can't believe that a Note file is not finger scrollable (WTF), yet Word is....
16. I have a sneaking suspicion that the battery life has taken a hit too, but unconfirmed at this point.
Lots of other changes to the UI, too numerous to make a big list.
In one way it is an improvement, although (to me) there have been a couple of backward steps, but overall, seems to be good.
One final thing, with this new UI - to me at least - it makes the scren look a little ...smaller.
Cheers
Jabberoo
wow, they give us sense 2.5? how generous...lol
but seriously, no task manager? how is the package overall? snappy or slower than 2.1? my old 6.5 upgrade is running sweetly at the moment, but this update is tempting
mr_sheen said:
wow, they give us sense 2.5? how generous...lol
but seriously, no task manager? how is the package overall? snappy or slower than 2.1? my old 6.5 upgrade is running sweetly at the moment, but this update is tempting
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Still unsure, early days.
I have some doubts that the battery life will be as good with this new update, but time will tell. It does seem a little less glitchy when using, the Home Screen seems a little overcrowded though with 2.5.
Still really don't get the no Task Manager thing, how the hell do you multi-task if you have to go through a menu series of hoops to reinstate the underlying programs that are still open.
With that, if they can't be triggered off with an X option (like on the previous versions' TM) they will all just bank up till your RAM says goodnight or you need to go into the bog standard old TM to turn them off.
Maybe I am missing something here, but this is a major oversight....
Also, as above, the no Programs Tab, means you need to use the WinMo Program list and with no real way to put things where you want them (just the Move to Top option) seems kinda dopey too.
Cheers
Jabberoo
jabberoo said:
Still unsure, early days.
I have some doubts that the battery life will be as good with this new update, but time will tell. It does seem a little less glitchy when using, the Home Screen seems a little overcrowded though with 2.5.
Still really don't get the no Task Manager thing, how the hell do you multi-task if you have to go through a menu series of hoops to reinstate the underlying programs that are still open.
With that, if they can't be triggered off with an X option (like on the previous versions' TM) they will all just bank up till your RAM says goodnight or you need to go into the bog standard old TM to turn them off.
Maybe I am missing something here, but this is a major oversight....
Also, as above, the no Programs Tab, means you need to use the WinMo Program list and with no real way to put things where you want them (just the Move to Top option) seems kinda dopey too.
Cheers
Jabberoo
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This is the interface that the HD2 got, am i right? do they new weather animation thats different than sense 2.1?
As for the no task manager, that is totally weird. You might want to write to HTC customer service about that and see what they come up with. I personally think its stupid to exclude the task manager though.
For the start menu, i usually us Joe Wilcox's awesome start thing because i cant stand the honeycomb layout. I thought it was just a mess, and one thing for sure, i never use the start menu. I just put the program tab straight up next to my home tab. So, again, i think its stupid that they got rid of the program tab as well.
How was the opera? you said that it was older right? well in the 6.1 official upgrade it was smooth when i scroll up and down on it, in yhe official 6.5 it just lags and not smooth, although the page renders perfectly. How's the opera scrolling in this package?
thank you for your response though
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AWESOME!!!
Even if Opera is older, actually renders touch.facebook.com alot better than previous releases (ie when ya tap a picture it shows up)
Google Maps 4 loads probably 3 times quicker on this rom than the first official SEA WM6.5
You can tell it to update weather and location on a schedule!! Yay!
It supports turning the ringer down when ya pick up the device, and has a pocket mode that makes it ring louder
It integrates the HTC messaging so ya dont see the ugly MS SMS app anymore
With this ROM, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a TP2 to my non tech savvy friends.
First impressions: I'm more excited than when I first got my TP2! Now to test Coreplayer and xVID AVIs (which where fine with 6.1 and not the 1st 6.5)
mr_sheen said:
This is the interface that the HD2 got, am i right? do they new weather animation thats different than sense 2.1?
As for the no task manager, that is totally weird. You might want to write to HTC customer service about that and see what they come up with. I personally think its stupid to exclude the task manager though.
For the start menu, i usually us Joe Wilcox's awesome start thing because i cant stand the honeycomb layout. I thought it was just a mess, and one thing for sure, i never use the start menu. I just put the program tab straight up next to my home tab. So, again, i think its stupid that they got rid of the program tab as well.
How was the opera? you said that it was older right? well in the 6.1 official upgrade it was smooth when i scroll up and down on it, in yhe official 6.5 it just lags and not smooth, although the page renders perfectly. How's the opera scrolling in this package?
thank you for your response though
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To the above, yes the Home Screen weather ani is there, but it was the first thing to go - seen it once and after that it just messed with resources.
The same with the annoying uber-flipping clock, maybe good on the HD2 but not so on the TP2 where it tended to be a little laggy and buggy in motion.
I added the X Touch Task Manager back in and now it is as it should have been from the start - much better.
For the Programs Tab, i grabbed Cookies Cab that did some neat stuff, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625483. The only down side with this is, as i've just discovered, is that you wont have a landscape Home Screen with the keyboard out...?
I did not really use Opera, just updated it and Google Maps straight away to the latest versions.
Overall, i think it is smoother, a little less laggy and well worth a look.
Did i mention it was louder too?
(I used the Audio Para tweak, but now do not have too)
Cheers
Jabberoo
can anyone confirm that the
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
in previous SEA 2.07 thread, it says 2.5.20121225.0
is there any differences?
x_sliver said:
can anyone confirm that the
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
in previous SEA 2.07 thread, it says 2.5.20121225.0
is there any differences?
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I have the same question, too
Contacts & Messaging sucks
While I can agree with some of the improvements that they have made, both contacts and messaging has been screwed up, a big mess.
Often one of this makes the phone hang and should say that I have reset the phone on more occasions in the last 2 days than I have done it in the last 6 months.
Missing feature of Task Manager from the task bar and the Program Tabs are a big let down.
Damn I am now waiting to get the next release, if we will have one.
anybody knows how to cut the RAM usage down at the start? my old official Sense 2.1 managed to started up at 42 % RAM after the resproxy tweaks and no push internet tweak. It seems that in this ROM those tweeks seems to do nothing, After i did the tweak on this Sense 2.5 ROM, the it starts up at 47%.
Anything new then? Plus there seems to be new entry in the resproxy registry called maxsharememsize or something like that. Should we put that to 0?
Does anyone encountered the standby of dead issue in this rom? I have this problem when the first time i lock my phone and go to standby mode from the fresh boot up and it just wouldn't wakeup after i press the power on button. It seems the solution is to wait a little bit longer after you lock your phone then only switch the phone off. I have not seen this problem in previous official sea rom.
i am now seriously considering switching back to the official sense 2.1
why?
1. The resproxy and no push internet tweak doesnt work. My Ram shot >70% after a day where i use all the feature (twitter tab,album,music,lock screen etc)
2. The messaging app is just...bad. It lags and not responsive sonewhat. Plus after a soft reset it reads the sms that i have in inbox as coming from my sim card contact rather than phone contact. Glitchy.
3. It seems pretty quick after a hard reset, but after all the contacts is in and weather updated + software and such, the home screen and the whoke experience started to lag.
overall i think they should just keep the 2.5 to the HD2 i guess. Our TP2 just wont cut it...
Hi jabberoo, how do you get back the X Touch Task Manager back?
shortly after applying this ROM, my TP2 fell of the window sill and bounced off the bench into the sink
Its away getting insurance quotes, etc. Having to rely on my Dopod 838 Pro. Yuck...
overall, this new official ROM is far much better than sense 2.1 altho u have to be a lil'conservative on opening programs. One feature I still can get to work perfectly...the FB photo albums on contacts. Not a single pic that I've seen appear on the album,eventho they did show the respective album names and number of pics inside.
Does it Have Vietnamese roms?
Do you think HTC SEA have vietnamese language? how do you switch to another language in HTC WM 6.5.xx?
haoren said:
Hi jabberoo, how do you get back the X Touch Task Manager back?
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Hi
Not sure of the question here...
You grab the "Touch X Taskmanager.cab", install it, go to settings/system and configure it, voila....!
I found the "Touch_X_Homescreen_Flip_clock_OFF.cab" is good too, getting rid of the unneccessary flipping action which becomes irritating after a short time, the "Touch_X_Left_softkey_as_camera.cab" is worthwhile too, instead of doubling up for Phone or using a quick link space for it.
Hope that helps...
BTW, the Mods to expand the Quick Links (HD2 tweaks) are all useless at this point, handy but useless, as they break Landscape mode with the Keyboard in the out position.
I am still finding that a GPS lock using TomTom can take several minutes to execute on this ROM, so no improvement there. It does work well, just can sometimes take a while to lock (but eventually does...)
Cheers to all
Jabberoo
I had noticed that with the Facebook Albums, too. I'm going to lodge a thing with HTC once I have my phone again...
As for the GPS lock taking several minutes: I get that with a brand new TomTom Go 750 if I travel to a different location with it off, then turn it on. I used to think the TP2 was a POS in that regard, but when the TomTom did it I thought that maybe it wasn't specific to the TP2.
penguinjet said:
Does anyone encountered the standby of dead issue in this rom? I have this problem when the first time i lock my phone and go to standby mode from the fresh boot up and it just wouldn't wakeup after i press the power on button. It seems the solution is to wait a little bit longer after you lock your phone then only switch the phone off. I have not seen this problem in previous official sea rom.
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Never had this issue with the ROM.
I tried to utilise SRS WOW (which is great) but this Standby issue was the end result on the TP2 (any ROM), which was a shame....
Cheers
Jabberoo
I just sold my sensation and got this phone..so far it is working out but there are some things I am trying to figure out. Yes i know i can root it but was thinking about holding out on rooting until the next firmware push so i can get the wifi calling option. I believe in time it will be in a cooked rom but until then this is kinda my plan...so here are my questions.
1: I notice the menu fonts are a lot bigger than on the sensation. Any way to make it smaller so i can fit more on the screen. I am reffering to line when you are in the settings and scrolling all the options like wifi, sound, display, etc
2: anyway to change up the power options to include a reboot option?
3: you know how you can pan left and right and setup dif screens. on the sensation for the text messages there was a nice large widget which would display several texts conversations. how to get that back so i don't have to hit the icon to get to the large display
4: same as #3 but when it comes to the gallery for pics
5: what same as #3 but for the music playing options
6: the market update is driving me nuts. I don't want the new one and i will use the old one and then it updates. I will go into applications and uninstall the update and then next time i use it it updates. Where can i uncheck something so it will leave it on the old market?
7: why when i take a pic with the flash sometimes on the screen when it take the pic with flash it will wash it out on the screen and shows as a crap pic but when you go to the gallery the pic is fine?
8: anyway to change the application icon content to scroll up and down versus side to side a screen at a time
9: any other keyboard options for texting, etc?
10: any different dialer you all suggest?
thanks for any info
Sounds like you should've kept the sensation...
Maybe you can look around the rom section and find a rom that fixes some of your "issues".
A new font may fix the font size issue. The rest, idk. As I'm ok with all the rest.
you would think based on my questions but there was no way overcoming the issues with the sensation. speakerphone sucked bad ...could not hear a thing...bad design and was no overcoming that. camera app was also terrible...so i made the right choice just customizing it to fit me...
calimove said:
I just sold my sensation and got this phone..so far it is working out but there are some things I am trying to figure out. Yes i know i can root it but was thinking about holding out on rooting until the next firmware push so i can get the wifi calling option. I believe in time it will be in a cooked rom but until then this is kinda my plan...so here are my questions.
2: anyway to change up the power options to include a reboot option?
5: what same as #3 but for the music playing options
6: the market update is driving me nuts. I don't want the new one and i will use the old one and then it updates. I will go into applications and uninstall the update and then next time i use it it updates. Where can i uncheck something so it will leave it on the old market?
8: anyway to change the application icon content to scroll up and down versus side to side a screen at a time
9: any other keyboard options for texting, etc?
thanks for any info
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2- get a rom and those reboot options are in it and in toggle options too.
5- get google music and a rom and thats fixed too
6- get Titanium backup and get the donators copy not the free one, with the paid copy u can freeze items. Once u get to the market u want go into titanium backup and look at ur batch list and freeze market updater, DONE! And it will stay i used to do that when i had themed markets.
8. I use zeam launcher and it lets u pick which directions u want ur icons to show also if u fix permissions in root u can get transparent app list BUt also in zeam launcher settings without doing that u can make it transparent also if u dont want to go the first route.
best keyboard options swype or swiftkey!
hope that helps
9. You can search for keyboards on the android market. There are some really nice ones out there. I hated the stock keyboard and am using iphone keyboard emulator at the moment
Did the same
I did the same I had a Sensation and due to a kid breaking his phone I purchased a Samsung Galaxy S 2 and thought my wife was going to take it. Instead she said she wanted my sensation! Me being a good guy I let her have it. (my wife is hot, what am I to do?) I use to have a Vibrant and was really not looking forward to what I got myself into but to my surprise things actually worked for the most part! Between the wife and I we have gone through the G-1, Vibrant, MT3G Slide, Sensation and now the TMSGS2 and I must say it is hands down the best phone I have owned to date. So if you really like Sense and like to almost hear your music and videos then go back to the Sensation or get the Amaze. I hated Samsung after the Vibrant experience but looks like they just won me back as a customer because this is a great phone!!
Hi everyone.
I´m comming from a HTC HD2 with "Energy Rom" (Android 2.3.5, Sense 3.5), now i got my HTC One X for six days (and yesterday rooting and changing to Rom "Android Revolution HD 5.2.0").
After last six days of testing, it is still an amazing device, but there are lots of bad things that have to be said about the HOX:
1) --> The HOX is not smooth!
The HOX has the most powerful CPU on earth, but still it is not able to run realy smoot. Compared to the iPhone, the home screen doesn't rotate realy smoot, the app-drawer matrix doesn't scroll smooth, and worst of all the scrolling through Pictures lags.
2) --> The HOX is not that intuitive as it should be.
First example - the music player:
When you click on music-player, then first button "my phone" (in german "Eigenes Telefon"), you can click on top the pull-down-menu to change to "genres". Now you click on "Rap" and want to choose the Artist --> but there is no artist! Not even the artists name is mentioned. You only can choose the album-name.
When you pump up 20 Gbyte music, it is not realy possible to easily choose the song you whant to hear.
Second example - the ringtone:
Nomaly you choose the ringtone in "settings --> sound". But e.g. the sms tone must be changed in "sms --> menu --> settings --> notification --> notification ringtone".
Why so complicated?
3) --> The USB Connection to the internal storage is slow.
On my HTC HD2 i used a Class 10 SD-Card. Writing movies or navigation-maps on it, after taking the card out of the device, had a writing speed at about 10 MB/s.
When i read about the internal storage, i thought it is at least as fast as a good SD-Card. But when i connect my HOX via USB i get max. 5 - 6 MB/s.
4) --> The HTC car app does not launch with connecting a bluetooth-device.
With Sense 3.5 you can set the "old" HTC car app to launch when a bluetooth-device connects - this means: every bluetooth-device! So when starting the engine, my car-radio connects to the HTC, the old app starts immediatly.
The new HTC car app looks realy great, but it doesn't start when the radio connects.
And as if this were not enough: the new car app can not rotate to portrait-mode.
Why?
5) --> Lockscreen-Links can not be defined independently.
With Sense 3.5 the lockscreen-app-links can be set as you whant.
With Sense 4 the links can not been changed. They are the same as the links in the dock bar.
Why?
6) --> Homescreen can not rotate around.
I find it realy disturbing that the homescreen can not scroll over from far right to far left.
So guys, I hope you comment these things or give hints or tips.
Best regards,
Nem.
I agree with 1,3,5 and 6
Hopefully they all can be fixed with a software update
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
nemesis01 said:
1) --> The HOX is not smooth!
The HOX has the most powerful CPU on earth, but still it is not able to run realy smoot. Compared to the iPhone, the home screen doesn't rotate realy smoot, the app-drawer matrix doesn't scroll smooth, and worst of all the scrolling through Pictures lags.
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Depends on which ROM you're running I guess. The home screen doesn't rotate by default in sense so...
In the end I've never had a lagless computer, but the One X is snappy enough for me...
nemesis01 said:
2) --> The HOX is not that intuitive as it should be.
First example - the music player:
When you click on music-player, then first button "my phone" (in german "Eigenes Telefon"), you can click on top the pull-down-menu to change to "genres". Now you click on "Rap" and want to choose the Artist --> but there is no artist! Not even the artists name is mentioned. You only can choose the album-name.
When you pump up 20 Gbyte music, it is not realy possible to easily choose the song you whant to hear.
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This seems like a software issue rather than an issue with the One X. Are you sure your music is tagged right?
nemesis01 said:
Second example - the ringtone:
Nomaly you choose the ringtone in "settings --> sound". But e.g. the sms tone must be changed in "sms --> menu --> settings --> notification --> notification ringtone".
Why so complicated?
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lol. How long did it take you to figure that out anyhow?
nemesis01 said:
3) --> The USB Connection to the internal storage is slow.
On my HTC HD2 i used a Class 10 SD-Card. Writing movies or navigation-maps on it, after taking the card out of the device, had a writing speed at about 10 MB/s.
When i read about the internal storage, i thought it is at least as fast as a good SD-Card. But when i connect my HOX via USB i get max. 5 - 6 MB/s.
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This is something I don't like either. Honestly, when I bought the phone a pulled a bone head move and hadn't realized there was no SD card... just before paying I realized, and figured I'd give it a go... consider the battery life and lack of micro SD AND USB OTG, I'm a bit miffed about my decision, but still happy enough to stick with it for a while. After all, the Galaxy S3 isn't out yet and ugly as hell.
nemesis01 said:
4) --> The HTC car app does not launch with connecting a bluetooth-device.
With Sense 3.5 you can set the "old" HTC car app to launch when a bluetooth-device connects - this means: every bluetooth-device! So when starting the engine, my car-radio connects to the HTC, the old app starts immediatly.
The new HTC car app looks realy great, but it doesn't start when the radio connects.
And as if this were not enough: the new car app can not rotate to portrait-mode.
Why?
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This seems like an issue with HTC Sense, more than the One X. You might try some non stock apps... if you want a ready made package, you should probably just get an apple product... This is probable something which could be solved by reporting to the proper developers, or by getting the right apps installed on your device.
nemesis01 said:
5) --> Lockscreen-Links can not be defined independently.
With Sense 3.5 the lockscreen-app-links can be set as you whant.
With Sense 4 the links can not been changed. They are the same as the links in the dock bar.
Why?
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You keep asking why. No one here is a developer for Sense. Send it to their Support Reps.
nemesis01 said:
6) --> Homescreen can not rotate around.
I find it realy disturbing that the homescreen can not scroll over from far right to far left.
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Check out the LeeDroid ROM (if you like sense), or Go Launcher (another Homescreen App).
nemesis01 said:
So guys, I hope you comment these things or give hints or tips.
Best regards,
Nem.
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Realize, this isn't a support forum, but a hobbyist developer forum. If you want Support, go to the developer of the product you want. If you want help, this is the place.
As for the quick links, i believe they did what most people would do assume the "quick links" you have on your home screen and the ones your most likely to use.
also my phone has always been smooth as butter even on stock ROM.
You can change the quick link by changing the dock icon
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
nemesis01 said:
Hi everyone.
I´m comming from a HTC HD2 with "Energy Rom" (Android 2.3.5, Sense 3.5), now i got my HTC One X for six days (and yesterday rooting and changing to Rom "Android Revolution HD 5.2.0").
After last six days of testing, it is still an amazing device, but there are lots of bad things that have to be said about the HOX:
1) --> The HOX is not smooth!
The HOX has the most powerful CPU on earth, but still it is not able to run realy smoot. Compared to the iPhone, the home screen doesn't rotate realy smoot, the app-drawer matrix doesn't scroll smooth, and worst of all the scrolling through Pictures lags.
2) --> The HOX is not that intuitive as it should be.
First example - the music player:
When you click on music-player, then first button "my phone" (in german "Eigenes Telefon"), you can click on top the pull-down-menu to change to "genres". Now you click on "Rap" and want to choose the Artist --> but there is no artist! Not even the artists name is mentioned. You only can choose the album-name.
When you pump up 20 Gbyte music, it is not realy possible to easily choose the song you whant to hear.
Second example - the ringtone:
Nomaly you choose the ringtone in "settings --> sound". But e.g. the sms tone must be changed in "sms --> menu --> settings --> notification --> notification ringtone".
Why so complicated?
3) --> The USB Connection to the internal storage is slow.
On my HTC HD2 i used a Class 10 SD-Card. Writing movies or navigation-maps on it, after taking the card out of the device, had a writing speed at about 10 MB/s.
When i read about the internal storage, i thought it is at least as fast as a good SD-Card. But when i connect my HOX via USB i get max. 5 - 6 MB/s.
4) --> The HTC car app does not launch with connecting a bluetooth-device.
With Sense 3.5 you can set the "old" HTC car app to launch when a bluetooth-device connects - this means: every bluetooth-device! So when starting the engine, my car-radio connects to the HTC, the old app starts immediatly.
The new HTC car app looks realy great, but it doesn't start when the radio connects.
And as if this were not enough: the new car app can not rotate to portrait-mode.
Why?
5) --> Lockscreen-Links can not be defined independently.
With Sense 3.5 the lockscreen-app-links can be set as you whant.
With Sense 4 the links can not been changed. They are the same as the links in the dock bar.
Why?
6) --> Homescreen can not rotate around.
I find it realy disturbing that the homescreen can not scroll over from far right to far left.
So guys, I hope you comment these things or give hints or tips.
Best regards,
Nem.
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1. Pretty smooth with me, and this will improve. It's a brand new phone, and htc's always seem to be like this early on.
2. For me it's logical. If I want to change my sms alert, I would go into sms settings. I don't really changed my alerts, but that's the way I'd do it.
With the music app, I use Google music which is easy for finding what you want to listen to. I usually use playlists, and I never use genres, as I listen to what I would class as hard rock. Depending on the band its genre could be classed as anything from rock to metal to punk to progressive rock to grunge to alt rock and another 10 or so permutations
3. Transfer could definitely be faster, but I don't do that much transfering so it's not a huge deal for me. I would transfer across the odd movie or rom, and it doesn't take long.
4. Don't use the car app.
5. I guess they just used the logic that the programs on your dock bar would be the ones you access most often. It makes sense to me, but it wouldn't be too much effort for them to give people the choice.
6. Homescreen rotates on custom ROM, guess it was only designed to be used when the phone is docked? If you mean the carousel effect, this was ditched for sense 4.0. Guess it's part of slimming sense down. As always, some people love it, others want it how it was.
You've got valid points, but some of them are just getting used the slightly different way of doing things.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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You can change the quick link by changing the dock icon
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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And this, my friend, is called rocket sci... I mean... customizing your phone. It's sweet!
nemesis01 said:
Second example - the ringtone:
Nomaly you choose the ringtone in "settings --> sound". But e.g. the sms tone must be changed in "sms --> menu --> settings --> notification --> notification ringtone".
Why so complicated?
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Personalize--->sound tab
Can change all notification/ringtones etc from there.......
Sense 4.0 heh. Just slap on stock ICS on this and it will fly.
Waiting for S-OFF.
nemesis01 said:
Second example - the ringtone:
Nomaly you choose the ringtone in "settings --> sound". But e.g. the sms tone must be changed in "sms --> menu --> settings --> notification --> notification ringtone".
Why so complicated?
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Go to settings > Personalize > right tab will give you all the sounds you want to change. Click on Notifications & you get to change the Default, SMS Calendar, E-mail & Task notifications.
The Sense launcher is laggy, just slap an Apex launcher over it and you re golden.
After tweaking I transfer big files with 15mb/sec. But with stock it was 4-6.
The music problem is easy fixed by using Mixzing or PowerAMP.
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4) --> The HTC car app does not launch with connecting a bluetooth-device.
With Sense 3.5 you can set the "old" HTC car app to launch when a bluetooth-device connects - this means: every bluetooth-device! So when starting the engine, my car-radio connects to the HTC, the old app starts immediatly.
The new HTC car app looks realy great, but it doesn't start when the radio connects.
And as if this were not enough: the new car app can not rotate to portrait-mode.
Why?
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This also applies to the Locations built in mapping software sadly (no portrait mode).
I'm guessing they are trying to push it along with their car dock as a 'package', which holds the phone in landscape mode, but I don't want to pay out on a dock that will likely not fit my next phone, even if it is an HTC. I have a perfectly good universal holder securely fitted in my van which will fit any phone I own thanks.
Not sure how many if any ever used the paid Locations App, but it is handy to have the maps on phone if you have no data connection.
Fortunately, CoPilot now offers a freemium option that lets you download the maps and only pay if you want turn by turn.
I think HTC has tried to simplify Sense because of previous criticisms from 'reviewers' and have probably gone too far the opposite way.
Several of the things like carousel, dock icons, etc. they could have made simple to start with, then added the option to tweak it in the settings. Maybe they will go back the other way in a later version, or modders on here will work out how to do it for them, as usual.
Although I've always used other launchers in the past, I quite like the Sense 4 launcher, mainly because of some of the widgets. However, I will NEVER understand why they went with a 4 x 4 grid on such a massive screen - its such a waste of space.
The only reasoning I can think is that they wanted it to be the same across the whole One series, including the One V, but that's really not a good enough reason to limit your flagship device HTC!
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1) --> The HOX is not smooth! Compared to the iPhone...
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Mine is and I have 80 some apps loaded on it. The only stutter I've noticed is in the secondary weather animations. Read this. It's a Google engineer explaining how Android renders graphics. Power can't overcome some of the limitations she describes. The answer to an iPhone comparison can only be "perhaps you should have gotten an iPhone?" The One X is smoother than any of the six modern (as opposed to a hacked three year old Windows phone running Android) phones I’ve owned in the past two years.
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
2) --> The HOX is not that intuitive as it should be.
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This is my first time using Sense since it was called Manila. I've used Samsung devices prior to the One X. I find the work HTC's done in Sense 4.0 to be pretty amazing. Like rejecting a call with a message automatically adds a task to return the call to your calendar so it’s available at your desk. To me, it's probably the most intuitive and well thought out interface available on an Android phone. Again, if you want intuitive, get an iPhone. Samsung and Motorola's devices are less, not more intuitive.
4) --> The HTC car app does not launch with connecting a bluetooth-device.
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Can't comment. My dock hasn't arrived yet.
5) --> Lockscreen-Links can not be defined independently.
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Nice to have but something "that needs to be said?"
6) --> Homescreen can not rotate around.
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No, it doesn't. But when docked a cleaner easier to use replacement's provided.
So far these are the things that I've found that I'd like changed and I think they'd impact more people and are more material than the home screen not rotating.
1) No ICS Native Voice Dialer - HTC left it out and all the ICS compatible APK's I’ve found crash. Vlingo is the only way to initiate voice calls over BT and it's far from a clean solution.
2) No LinkedIn Connector for Sense - It worked on earlier versions of Sense but not 4.0. It's a pretty big omission for people that use their phone for business.
3) No Resizing of HTML E-Mail - The stock mail app should be able to allow pinch-to-zoom to adjust the size of HTML e-mail. As it is, you have to scroll.
There’s a lot of niggly things that I’d prefer be implement differently but I’d never post them on a forum because what’s important to me may not be important to others. We each use our phones differently. One device, no matter who makes it, is going to please everyone equally.
gonzo99 said:
This also applies to the Locations built in mapping software sadly (no portrait mode).
I'm guessing they are trying to push it along with their car dock as a 'package', which holds the phone in landscape mode, but I don't want to pay out on a dock that will likely not fit my next phone, even if it is an HTC. I have a perfectly good universal holder securely fitted in my van which will fit any phone I own thanks.
Not sure how many if any ever used the paid Locations App, but it is handy to have the maps on phone if you have no data connection.
Fortunately, CoPilot now offers a freemium option that lets you download the maps and only pay if you want turn by turn.
I think HTC has tried to simplify Sense because of previous criticisms from 'reviewers' and have probably gone too far the opposite way.
Several of the things like carousel, dock icons, etc. they could have made simple to start with, then added the option to tweak it in the settings. Maybe they will go back the other way in a later version, or modders on here will work out how to do it for them, as usual.
Although I've always used other launchers in the past, I quite like the Sense 4 launcher, mainly because of some of the widgets. However, I will NEVER understand why they went with a 4 x 4 grid on such a massive screen - its such a waste of space.
The only reasoning I can think is that they wanted it to be the same across the whole One series, including the One V, but that's really not a good enough reason to limit your flagship device HTC!
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Google maps also offers map cacheing, and the http://www.openstreetmap.org/ project has a number of compatible apps which allow offline maps - but the cache is the quality of the map depends on the mapping community in your area... they're usually not so bad
Thx 2 all!
Hi everybody,
thanks a lot to all of you for your postings.
I just wanted to start the discussion, because when you read tests or comments about the HOX, then you most read something about the "first impressions". Magazines, blogs etc. often compare the HOX with the most popular smartphone: the iPhone. Then you may also read something about "THE IPHONE KILLER". I hate phrases like this! Why do I have to kill something that is behind me ?
I just wanted to say, that even the HOX has potential to get better - and thats why I installed the ARHD-ROM
I just wanted to post my opinion to the HOX as objectively as i can be. Don´t missundersand me: for me, today the HOX is the best phone on earth. Never wanted to have an iPhone. I just waited for the presentation of the Samsung Galaxy S3 and on the same Day I decided to buy the HOX.
1- The famous problem with Rosie.apk and the layered widgets, the OnDemand governor of the one X doesn't Ramp CPUs speed to full unless pushed hard and so in the launcher the CPUs are not to blame, neither the GPU since its linked to CPU clocks, the launcher is simply running at low clocks plus heavy layering in the widgets and hence the stutter, solution to this is actually optimizing the sense launcher and this is where ultra rosie mod fixes it
Topic on the issue, please vote since im already in contact with HTC:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649819
6- well its a Sense 4 simplification decision and i quit like it, you either get scrolling wallpaper or frozen wallpaper plus loop, both are actually easy control if you hack rosie.apk
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lol. How long did it take you to figure that out anyhow?
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What I was thinking. Why not change the sound on the Personalize tab?
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Personalize--->sound tab
Can change all notification/ringtones etc from there.......
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Go to settings > Personalize > right tab will give you all the sounds you want to change. Click on Notifications & you get to change the Default, SMS Calendar, E-mail & Task notifications.
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What I was thinking.
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The Sense launcher is laggy, just slap an Apex launcher over it and you re golden.
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Doing that though, you loose the usage of Sense widgets?
The whole point of having a htc phone is to enjoy using htc widgets, isn't?
Hello, extreme newbie here, with practically 0 experience with roms and various tweaks and stuff like that (I played around with these things a little back when gingerbread was THE thing, never touched Android since, till recently).
I've been using a One X for the past 6 months or so and I decided to finally get rid of all the gaming problems (due to HTC's power management, etc) and to benefit from various improvements that helped improve the experience for lots of people, unlocked it, rooted and installed the latest JB sense ARHD without a single problem + the advanced power menu and the mod pack. Everything works fine and seems like it'll work no problem, but there is only one small problem, the phone is now recognized as EndeavorU instead of One X, in the phone specs, on HTC sync and google account, it's a little annoying to see it named like that and my question is, or should I say questions:
1. Is this name change relevant to the overall functionality of the phone, in other words, did I mess something up that needs to be repaired?
2. Can it be changed back to its brand name instead of code name without having to restore the stock settings?
Thanks for the possible solutions and sorry if this has been asked before, couldn't find much info about this, only one random thread on some other forum where a guy had his phone revert to One X after a reboot, then back to EndeavorU and finally back to One X when he connected it to HTC sync, none of that worked for me.
The name EndeavorU is the official name of out phone. It doesnt matter and no need to be "fixed" .
Yes you can by editing the build.prop in system. You can use build.prop editor from play market for this. ( ROM toolbox includes this feature ).
But you need to find the actual variable you need to edit and it can be a bit confusing.
ADVICE : Leave everything as it is. It doesnt matter
Thanks for the answer, was mostly worried about it affecting the app compatibility detection (no idea how complex Google's database is with their devices and various names), but doesn't seem to be the case so far and if you say it does no harm to the functionality then I'll probably leave it like that, thanks again.
Couldn't help it , wanted to know more about this, got informed a little and understood especially that I shouldn't tweak what I don't know enough about because it might damage the phone, with the app you suggested it only took a minute to back up the original file and edit the name, yet another thanks.
i dont know if this is the right place or the general forum is ,but...
1.does the phone have silent mode? with lolipop silent mode was kind of canceled at stock android smartphones and you could only put the phone on vibrate, but the manufacturer UI still had it...
2.thats kind of stupid one but...one of the things i like about sense is the dialer it does not rotating at all! only when in car mode,so in UX 4.0 does the dialer rotate?
3.one of the features i like about touchwiz is that when you watch a video you can see it while it floats around,i know lg got qslide but i dont know if thats one of the options.
4.what apps coming with the phone and can you remove them?
5.did any of you tried greenify ? why do i ask ,well i tried to use it with samsung devices (actually s2,s4.s4 lte-a,s5 all not rooted) and it seemed like greenify didnt get along with them some why...(keyboard didnt work well,talkback didnt stop working,sms app failure and more)
6.do the camera have burst mode like sense? its not a must have feature but its a nice to have...
7.what are the sort categories on the gallery and on the music player?
8. its not a direct question about the UI but still,som one posted on the general furom that he got an update to his lg g4 i did search on google and found nothing about it,so my question is where can i find update list/changelog/or any thing that is connected to software updates...
9.do the headphone plugin on the bottom is comfortable?
keep in mind few things ,i am coming from HTC Desire so...its a huge step forward, i have bad to good english so i am sorry for the spelling mistakes and those question came from playing with other people smartphones
xzfzx said:
i dont know if this is the right place or the general forum is ,but...
1.does the phone have silent mode? with lolipop silent mode was kind of canceled at stock android smartphones and you could only put the phone on vibrate, but the manufacturer UI still had it...
2.thats kind of stupid one but...one of the things i like about sense is the dialer it does not rotating at all! only when in car mode,so in UX 4.0 does the dialer rotate?
3.one of the features i like about touchwiz is that when you watch a video you can see it while it floats around,i know lg got qslide but i dont know if thats one of the options.
4.what apps coming with the phone and can you remove them?
5.did any of you tried greenify ? why do i ask ,well i tried to use it with samsung devices (actually s2,s4.s4 lte-a,s5 all not rooted) and it seemed like greenify didnt get along with them some why...(keyboard didnt work well,talkback didnt stop working,sms app failure and more)
6.do the camera have burst mode like sense? its not a must have feature but its a nice to have...
7.what are the sort categories on the gallery and on the music player?
8. its not a direct question about the UI but still,som one posted on the general furom that he got an update to his lg g4 i did search on google and found nothing about it,so my question is where can i find update list/changelog/or any thing that is connected to software updates...
9.do the headphone plugin on the bottom is comfortable?
keep in mind few things ,i am coming from HTC Desire so...its a huge step forward, i have bad to good english so i am sorry for the spelling mistakes and those question came from playing with other people smartphones
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I will try to answer a few of these.
1.does the phone have silent mode? with lolipop silent mode was kind of canceled at stock android smartphones and you could only put the phone on vibrate, but the manufacturer UI still had it...
It does not have silent out of the box, not sure if that can be changed once root access is found, but straight out the box, only way to mute sound is to have it connected to a bluetooth device
2.thats kind of stupid one but...one of the things i like about sense is the dialer it does not rotating at all! only when in car mode,so in UX 4.0 does the dialer rotate?
It rotates whenever you turn the phone on its side, unless you lock the screen in place
3.one of the features i like about touchwiz is that when you watch a video you can see it while it floats around,i know lg got qslide but i dont know if thats one of the options.
You are able to watch videos in Q SLide, its a small window that floats
4.what apps coming with the phone and can you remove them?
I was given the International Version, so as for what apps come on it, depends on which variant you get, whether its ATT, Verizon, T-Mobile, so on. But I can say with experience, that ATT comes with tons of bloatware.
5.did any of you tried greenify ? why do i ask ,well i tried to use it with samsung devices (actually s2,s4.s4 lte-a,s5 all not rooted) and it seemed like greenify didnt get along with them some why...(keyboard didnt work well,talkback didnt stop working,sms app failure and more)
Have not tried Greenify
6.do the camera have burst mode like sense? its not a must have feature but its a nice to have...
The camera does have burst mode, just have to hold down the camera button, and it will burst until you take your finger off
7.what are the sort categories on the gallery and on the music player?
Havent really messed with this enough to notice
8. its not a direct question about the UI but still,som one posted on the general furom that he got an update to his lg g4 i did search on google and found nothing about it,so my question is where can i find update list/changelog/or any thing that is connected to software updates...
There have been no updates rolled out for the G4 as far as I know, unless you are not in the states, then I do not know
9.do the headphone plugin on the bottom is comfortable?
Its like having the plug on the top, you wont notice it any differently
Hope this helps some
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first of all thank you for your time and answer ,now follow up questions.. =)
It does not have silent out of the box, not sure if that can be changed once root access is found, but straight out the box, only way to mute sound is to have it connected to a bluetooth device
1.sinse i have HTC Desire running GB 2.3 i can not test it out but...i heard that there are alot of widgets offering to add silent mode to lolipop is it right?
It rotates whenever you turn the phone on its side, unless you lock the screen in place
2.ho well i guess i can live with this...
You are able to watch videos in Q SLide, its a small window that floats
3.Yay.
I was given the International Version, so as for what apps come on it, depends on which variant you get, whether its ATT, Verizon, T-Mobile, so on. But I can say with experience, that ATT comes with tons of bloatware.
4.i will get that unlocked international version,i saw some where that mcfee come with it so..,anything else and can i remove mcfee?
Have not tried Greenify
5.you should try it does wonders to the battery life, if you do try it some when let me know(you dont need root for it)
The camera does have burst mode, just have to hold down the camera button, and it will burst until you take your finger off
6.Yay.
Havent really messed with this enough to notice
7.actually the most important thing to me at the music player is folder category and that you slide your finger to move to the next song or previous ,so does the lg g4 have that?
There have been no updates rolled out for the G4 as far as I know, unless you are not in the states, then I do not know
8. this is what makes it weird some one on the general furom posted he got an update ,thats why i wanted to know where i can see upcoming updates or changelogs
Its like having the plug on the top, you wont notice it any differently
9.i can imagin you are probbly right,you can get used to anything.