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So as promised, here's a review of the Hyperion desktop dock. Just trying to help the community!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1635558
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This is a DECENT dock, if you don't mind the SLOW charging.
When I charge my Note on this dock by itself (NO 2nd BATTERY charging), the dock only charge via USB mode, compared to AC mode. You can see this using Battery Monitor Widget or via Settings --> About.
It is by design since I have TWO (2) of these, ordered in the span of 4 weeks as replacement, and both exhibit the same problem.
I also test this by comparing the charging time via the Dock (USB mode) and then via Samsung original charger and the Dock charge twice as long.
Looking at the dock power supply, it only output 1.5mA. Given that the dock have the ability to charge BOTH the Note and 2nd battery, that's about 0.750mA for each charging circuit. The power supply should output at least 2mA and split that between the Note circuit and 2nd battery circuit in the dock. Samsung original charger output 1mA by itself.
Well if you have this then charging one while using one.... You should never worry. I know I charge mine overnight then if need be, swap. I've got a total of 3 batteries but can only use 1 at a time so for me, it works.
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lanwarrior said:
This is a DECENT dock, if you don't mind the SLOW charging.
When I charge my Note on this dock by itself (NO 2nd BATTERY charging), the dock only charge via USB mode, compared to AC mode. You can see this using Battery Monitor Widget or via Settings --> About.
It is by design since I have TWO (2) of these, ordered in the span of 4 weeks as replacement, and both exhibit the same problem.
I also test this by comparing the charging time via the Dock (USB mode) and then via Samsung original charger and the Dock charge twice as long.
Looking at the dock power supply, it only output 1.5mA. Given that the dock have the ability to charge BOTH the Note and 2nd battery, that's about 0.750mA for each charging circuit. The power supply should output at least 2mA and split that between the Note circuit and 2nd battery circuit in the dock. Samsung original charger output 1mA by itself.
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Funny, I just checked the charging status and it shows AC on mine, not USB. My charged from %1 to full in just over 4 hours. This was in the dock, in the phone on an Anker battery. Not sure why yours may be different.
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Nice. Just what I've been looking for
lanwarrior said:
This is a DECENT dock, if you don't mind the SLOW charging.
When I charge my Note on this dock by itself (NO 2nd BATTERY charging), the dock only charge via USB mode, compared to AC mode. You can see this using Battery Monitor Widget or via Settings --> About.
It is by design since I have TWO (2) of these, ordered in the span of 4 weeks as replacement, and both exhibit the same problem.
I also test this by comparing the charging time via the Dock (USB mode) and then via Samsung original charger and the Dock charge twice as long.
Looking at the dock power supply, it only output 1.5mA. Given that the dock have the ability to charge BOTH the Note and 2nd battery, that's about 0.750mA for each charging circuit. The power supply should output at least 2mA and split that between the Note circuit and 2nd battery circuit in the dock. Samsung original charger output 1mA by itself.
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the device will not draw 1A if it is not a samsung charger
it is a safety protocol that the device will draw less power through non-samsung chargers
even if the dock was 2A, the device wouldnt charge at 1A -> that would mean you would damage the second battery because it is charging with >1A
dakleenupman said:
Funny, I just checked the charging status and it shows AC on mine, not USB. My charged from %1 to full in just over 4 hours. This was in the dock, in the phone on an Anker battery. Not sure why yours may be different.
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You probably have the "re-designed" version?
As I mentioned above, I have 2 of these and was emailing the manufacturer and seller back and forth about this issue. The seller tested the unit that they have and it exhibit the same problem. So it could be the version I have have different circuitry or something. I bought this a while ago, so I gave up pursuing it since it took a long time to resolve the issue that time.
The dock is working (charging that is), so its not that it is defective. But I just want to share my experiences for those who need "fast" charging (4 hours with AC v.s. 8 hours with USB) and don't have 3 batteries either.
PS: I am sure it is not my Note, because when I plug the phone with Samsung original charger, and even a NewTrent battery pack, I got "AC" charge and not USB.
lanwarrior said:
You probably have the "re-designed" version?
As I mentioned above, I have 2 of these and was emailing the manufacturer and seller back and forth about this issue. The seller tested the unit that they have and it exhibit the same problem. So it could be the version I have have different circuitry or something. I bought this a while ago, so I gave up pursuing it since it took a long time to resolve the issue that time.
The dock is working (charging that is), so its not that it is defective. But I just want to share my experiences for those who need "fast" charging (4 hours with AC v.s. 8 hours with USB) and don't have 3 batteries either.
PS: I am sure it is not my Note, because when I plug the phone with Samsung original charger, and even a NewTrent battery pack, I got "AC" charge and not USB.
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Oh. I had no idea there were different versions. I just bought this and wanted to share my experience as well.
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Hi guys can't find an exact answer in search, I have a galaxy s3 i9305 but I'm assuming that part doesn't matter, just got the genuine samsung 3000mah battery and its taking 8 hours to charge on both stock rom and sentinel rom, using a non samsung cable and a 10v iphone mains plug with genuine samsung dock I'm getting 300ma using the App Store app to monitor, if I remove dock it goes to 500ma which is weird and I want to keep dock, if I use genuine samsung cable i ordered online as I don't have the original it charges at just 100ma so anyone a clue whats going on and what do I need to get the full 1000ma and charge in like 4 - 5 hours? I expected more charge time with the bigger battery but not double, please help.
Thanks
Tony
Not one person got the extended battery from Samsung and having slow charging? Just tried another cable and got 900ma without dock and 300 with so why's it so low with dock?
Since most third party chargers don't work anymore with the KitKat update, did anyone try an external battery?
All chargers works, just depends on cable and not chargers or kitkat. You get faster(slwoer charging depends on charger and quality of the cable.
For u question, I used Trent 11000 mah external battery pack, 5V 1Amp and with 3rd part usb cable, that are only for charging, without "data pins". It charging at 500 mah when screen is on, screen off at 930-980 mah and working as normal.
I dont know where u get that kitkat have anything to do with 3rd part chargers doesnt works.
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All chargers works, just depends on cable and not chargers or kitkat. You get faster(slwoer charging depends on charger and quality of the cable.
For u question, I used Trent 11000 mah external battery pack, 5V 1Amp and with 3rd part usb cable, that are only for charging, without "data pins". It charging at 500 mah when screen is on, screen off at 930-980 mah and working as normal.
I dont know where u get that kitkat have anything to do with 3rd part chargers doesnt works.
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Well my third party chargers stop charging when the screen turns off. Even if I use the USB cable that came with the Note. However, old chargers of HTC or Motorola phones do work with any USB cable. And I have read this from several other users as well.
I'm on stock 4.4.2 with stock recovery. What recovery/kernel/ROM do you use?
I only use third party chargers and cables and have never had a problem.
Razorless said:
Well my third party chargers stop charging when the screen turns off. Even if I use the USB cable that came with the Note. However, old chargers of HTC or Motorola phones do work with any USB cable. And I have read this from several other users as well.
I'm on stock 4.4.2 with stock recovery. What recovery/kernel/ROM do you use?
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The problem is Samsungs OEMs usb cable. I found it kinda weird, probably Samsungs have some kinda "handshake" with data pins and I got few of them from old Note 1/2/2014 and somehow it doesnt charge mine old Note 2 anylonger.
I got 4 of Samsunsg OEMs USB cables that comes along with Note 1/2/2014/EED100 (Desktop chagerstand) and I dont know anylonger which one is for each device. If I use wrong Samsungs usb cable, it charge mine Note 2 very slow, battery also drops while charging and I got to pick right usb cable for it to charge normal.
Now I just use this usb cable to charge mine Note 2014, too lazy to swap cable until find correct one and it works fine with any charger.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PortaPow-Hi...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item4ac6919243
Mine Note 2014 is rooted with stock recovery/kernel (4.4.2 HK version)
TabGuy said:
I only use third party chargers and cables and have never had a problem.
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That's really intersting. Are you on stock ROM?
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The problem is Samsungs OEMs usb cable....
Mine Note 2014 is rooted with stock recovery/kernel (4.4.2 HK version)
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I tried using the Note charger with different USB cables and it works. Using third party chargers with Note cable does not work, but using HTC/Motorola chargers with any cable does. So I think the problem is with the charger, not the cable. Are you sure you used the Note charger with diferent cables and it didn't work?
Using a 1.0A charger charges the device obviuosly slower but the third party chargers (also 1.0A) stop when the screen is off or the device is powered down.
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That's really intersting. Are you on stock ROM?
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Yes
I use a limeade 16000mah battery and have never had a problem with it not charging.
Alright, I'm now officially out of ideas why this only affects some devices. Would you mind telling me what model you have?
Mine is a 605 LTE
Razorless said:
Alright, I'm now officially out of ideas why this only affects some devices. Would you mind telling me what model you have?
Mine is a 605 LTE
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SM-P600
Might be it's a bug in the 605 ROM/kernel. Or maybe related to the snapdragon 800 chip. Maybe Samsung screwed up some drivers, intentionally or not.
If anyone is having charge issues, change your cables. There's nothing special about a "Samsung" cable, but there's a lot of cheap cables out there that have enough voltage drop on them that they won't allow adequate charging. Also, make sure your charger is doing "AC" charging, not "USB" charging- the Note won't draw more than 500mA from USB charging and you may either experience slow charging or none at all if you're using it.
I'm running a P607T (US T-Mobile) model with the German P605 ROM (which should rule out "locale" differences), and my Note charges from any third-party charger I have and/or my Gorilla Gadgets charger battery just fine, whether screen is on or off.
Like I said before, my third party charger stops charging when the screen turns off, even if I use the cable that came with the Note. In settings under battery it says "charging - AC" but still.
It may very well be that these chargers are too "cheap".
The Samsung cable misses one of the two ground connectors. This method was used for devices with mini (!) usb to put them either in power or data transfer mode, depending on the cable used.
However, the Note don't care, I charge it with a 5pin-cable.
The charger should be fully Android - and Apple compatible, as the Note most likely checks for Ipad-compatible signals on the data lines for 2A support.
The USB Port of the P600 is really weird.....I`m searching a long time for a solution to use USB and charging at the same time, and I`m testing a lot of dockingg Stations for this.....thats really strange.....the Multimedia Dock, made for the Note 2, works with the Note 3, without Problems, alll Ports are working....but P600 doesnt accept it as any docking stations, it do absolutely NOTHING, if you put it in.....with the new desktop dock (without usb) both devices will accept it as an "Docking Station"...other Adapters, like Hama, with SD Card Reader, USB and micro USB, will accept as an USB connector, all works, but not charging......but now, the LAN to USB Adapter from Samsung for the PRO Tab Series, wich have 2 x USB, LAN and Charging Inputs, works fine, except the LAN Port......think, there no drivers there at P600.....The USB Port is not same pinned as the Note 3, and also not same as the Note 10.1 and other older Tabs.......maybe it`s same pinned as the PRO Series.....but not sure......
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Hi, i use cm11 unofficial based on 4.4.4 android on my Galaxy grand dous, when i charge my mobile it take very long time yesterday it take 2 hours for 10% only (from 63% to 75%) any one knows what's the problem? Thanks.
Did you tested another cable? I had the same prob some years ago and after changing the cable for a brand new it solved the prob.
Are you trying to charge in an PC USB? or are you using direct on the wall? The PC USB only transfers 500mah max so try the wall plug.
Did you calibrate the battery after flashing a new ROM? Use a battery calibrator app to fix it up.
Plus dont charge with a USB cord, it'll take FOREVER for it to charge.
Instead use the offical samsung charger through a wall outlet for best results.
Hope this helps!
hi guys.I used to charge my phone whole night so I did not really pay attention how much time it needed to charge full but for morning it was ready.so I decided yesterday to charge.it was evening and I noticed that it to very long time I unpluged it after maybe 4 hours and it was on 58%.Now I am charging it and it took more than 4 hours to reach 100%.have any ideas how can I fix it?battery life was 4 4.5 hours of screen usage lattely.can it be bocouse I used to leave it at night?
As you using a high power charger? Are you using home original Samsung USB cable?
audit13 said:
As you using a high power charger? Are you using home original Samsung USB cable?
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I use original samsung charger 2.0A output.the usb cable is not samsungs.can it make such a huge difference?
They can may a difference, even when transferring files or flashing and chargingI don't have empirical data, it's just my personal experience with android phones over the years.
just pluged in my phone.trying another cable .hope it works
JamesTSK said:
I use original samsung charger 2.0A output.the usb cable is not samsungs.can it make such a huge difference?
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There are lots of different quality USB cables. I had a rubbish one that actually discharged instead of charging it was that bad.
Get different cables (try and borrow your friends' cables) and run the app Galaxy Charging Current from the play store. This will give a charge current trading for your cable/psu combination. If your psu is a genuine 2.0 Samsung charger then a good USB cable should charge at 1900mA. Rubbish ones can be anywhere from 100mA worse than charging over USB from a computer) upwards.
Darren
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I checked all my chargers and cables.I found out that there were only 2 cables which were good enaugh to charge with.I have not tested it in full charge but I think problem solved.I just needed original cable thanks for help!