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[Q] would you recommend me buy an xperia arc s? why?

Hi, I'm an user of an old xperia x8 and I'm thinking in upgrade to an Arc S but I need to know a few things before, like battery life and smoothness of UI in GB and ICS (I'm not planing to install custom kernel/rom).
I've watched some reviews on youtube but the only thing I see there is people scrolling through settings, app drawer, etc... I need to know how it behave in daily use based on your experiences... I hope you can help me
thanks
best regards

What is your budget first of all?

yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)

LP.Bullets said:
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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4 days???!!!!
what rom and kernel are you using?
overclocked?
what governor and scheduler?

LP.Bullets said:
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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could you please define what does normal use mean for you if the same as for me (gmail sync on, some emails.. 15-25 as i use them instead of sms mainly, little bit of gaming like 30 minutes per day, maybe 15 minutes of talking and a couple of sms messages) then your results are astonishing... with such usage my phone struggles to stay unpluged for 20hrs.
anyway, as it was asked, on what rom and settings?!?!

thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
edit: oh well, a few calls also lol

darkfrmr said:
thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
edit: oh well, a few calls also lol
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Well i would not recommend arc s at this moment.. i accept it is a great phone looks great but its a bit outdated at this moment.. i would ask you to buy a xperia nxt series phone..
And samsung looks ugly in my opinion.. you can also check out htc one v..
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darkfrmr said:
thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
edit: oh well, a few calls also lol
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i am sure it can handle that much of load for a day..samsung sucks..yesterday had a fight on S2 forum on the same topic..got a warning from Forum Mod too

It would be wise for now to go for Xperia P or U considering the same price as Arc S..
If you desire much for Arc S,then simply go for it!
+1 for Samsung sucks!

+1 for the same. Lol.
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Battery of arc s is I think 12 hours if u use these things n tht is enough
None phone give like tht with WiFi n 3 g

The battery is horrible and so far I've seen no actually smooth rom, not even the very stock.
Honestly,i don't recommend Arc. As said above, you should buy Xperia U or whatever.
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LP.Bullets said:
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT 4DAYS
HOW COME??????????????

ArmorD said:
The battery is horrible and so far I've seen no actually smooth rom, not even the very stock.
Honestly,i don't recommend Arc. As said above, you should buy Xperia U or whatever.
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Who said so?
GB with Arconium has a terribly smooth experience!
The same with battery, i get about a whole day with a single charge which is more than enough for me and most of the people!
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This is a wonderful cell phone but if you going to buy a new cell phone im recommend to you buy Xperia S, this is a dual core and more app better than arc s

Tbh, the Xperia s is good, but not a huge leap from the arc. Dual core is used to imply better performance, but it's the context that matters. If microsecond improvements in response really matter then go for an Xperia s, but don't look for a huge difference in performance overall then unless you're a huge gaming freak with no PSP the difference will be negligible.
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Shetz said:
This is a wonderful cell phone but if you going to buy a new cell phone im recommend to you buy Xperia S, this is a dual core and more app better than arc s
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Well he said so tat his budget would be lik in a Arc S range only!
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I would a big NO...... Wait for some days and go for Samsung galaxy S3... Seriously there is a huge difference between Samsung firmwares & Sony firmwares as far stability and performance is concerned..

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mandarjoshiin said:
I would a big NO...... Wait for some days and go for Samsung galaxy S3... Seriously there is a huge difference between Samsung firmwares & Sony firmwares as far stability and performance is concerned..
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His budget is to buy an arc.. not even close to what siii will cost.. also siii looks ugly in front of arc
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now.i.feel said:
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His budget is to buy an arc.. not even close to what siii will cost.. also siii looks ugly in front of arc
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Yeah of course, + 1 for Sony,
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Defective Ion?

Not sure if this is just how the phone is or if mine's defective. If anyone isn't having the following issues PLEASE reply so I can call up Sony and hopefully get a new one if this isn't the norm.
-Phone gets pretty hot, I know the phone's back is metal but it's hot enough to worry about imo. Happens when I've got a large file downloading or playing games like Modern Combat 3. Just to note I kill all background tasks quite often and especially before playing a game.
-Touch screen is buggy and requires a hard reset to fix. After MC3 crashing twice on me my screen became nearly unresponsive and if it did register anything it'd bug out.
-When listening to music it sorta drops out every once in a while, equivalent to a CD skipping? Idk how else to really put it.
Thanks in advance!

Well over heating is common in android phones. Mines reach 49 degrees Celsius while playing minecraft. But for the other issues, they seem like memory issues
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ninja08 said:
Well over heating is common in android phones. Mines reach 49 degrees Celsius while playing minecraft. But for the other issues, they seem like memory issues
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Memory as in CPU usage than this phone needs to be rooted badly, memory as in free space shouldn't be an issue, I've got gigs of space on both the internal and external SD cards.

SU1CiDE said:
Memory as in CPU usage than this phone needs to be rooted badly, memory as in free space shouldn't be an issue, I've got gigs of space on both the internal and external SD cards.
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CPU. I agree this phone does need it.

ninja08 said:
CPU. I agree this phone does need it.
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Is 200 M really that bad? I've never seen it go below that. And I had an Aria that ran down to like 75 M sometimes and it didn't affect it that badly

SU1CiDE said:
Is 200 M really that bad? I've never seen it go below that. And I had an Aria that ran down to like 75 M sometimes and it didn't affect it that badly
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shouldn't be the cpu. my x10 is always below 30mb XD
btw, don't use any task killers. they won't help but only mess up the way your phone works.
however, you can try using an app called "system panel." set up the monitor function and see which app is doing the wrong thing

0000alex0000 said:
shouldn't be the cpu. my x10 is always below 30mb XD
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I definitely have a defective Ion then. I just repaired the phone through the SUS so I'll have to see how that works out.

0000alex0000 said:
btw, don't use any task killers. they won't help but only mess up the way your phone works.
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What makes you say that? Just curious 'cause the task killer I have always used has helped all my phones so far. My (extremely low spec btw) HTC Aria only worked so well because of it.

SU1CiDE said:
What makes you say that? Just curious 'cause the task killer I have always used has helped all my phones so far. My (extremely low spec btw) HTC Aria only worked so well because of it.
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http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them

I guess the Ion is one of the phones they have a negative effect on, thanks for that.

My Fix For HOX Tegra Heat Problem

Hi I don't know if you guys read my last thread about me being really wanting to extend battery life and reduce heat on my HOX. What I did was simply using Blade Rom + used only 2 cores instead of 4. Performance wasn't really affected (except for gaming) and I was really happy.
But now I really wanted to try something new and was tired of the Sense interface. I ended up flashing tons on mods and bricking my phone. So I had to wipe it fully and reflash. I installed Blade ROM v4.6. Two days later I saw that it had a de-sensing script which sounded nice to me since I was tired of sense. To my amazement (though i don't have exact temperature values), the device is now running much cooler and it feels much nicer in my hands. Still a little warm but much less than on stock or custom(with sense).
I believe Sense to be causing a big percentage of that heat ... well at least this can be derived from my observations. Im not really sure if this has been posted before but I saw a lot of threads dealing with this problem and I hope this helps someone.
P.S When I de-sensed i think its now using Nova Launcher

TheRippingGhost said:
Hi I don't know if you guys read my last thread about me being really wanting to extend battery life and reduce heat on my HOX. What I did was simply using Blade Rom + used only 2 cores instead of 4. Performance wasn't really affected (except for gaming) and I was really happy.
But now I really wanted to try something new and was tired of the Sense interface. I ended up flashing tons on mods and bricking my phone. So I had to wipe it fully and reflash. I installed Blade ROM v4.6. Two days later I saw that it had a de-sensing script which sounded nice to me since I was tired of sense. To my amazement (though i don't have exact temperature values), the device is now running much cooler and it feels much nicer in my hands. Still a little warm but much less than on stock or custom(with sense).
I believe Sense to be causing a big percentage of that heat ... well at least this can be derived from my observations. Im not really sure if this has been posted before but I saw a lot of threads dealing with this problem and I hope this helps someone.
P.S When I de-sensed i think its now using Nova Launcher
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Theres something wrong with your HoX , my hox never gets *warm* or *hot* on regular use even with all 4 cores on, when playing demanding 3d games (nfs for sintence) it reaches around 35-40C max, while playing it being on charger then it gets *warm* or a little bit *hot* HoX shouldn't be getting *hot* if you're using it normally lol, only while playing 3d games on charger. At least that's how it is for me.

what heat problem??? heat is now ancient history ever since the JB OTA
your HOX or your custom ROM has a problem

Exactly. Now even when playing taxing games like GTA 3, GTA Vice City, NFSMW, the phone stays cool. I remember on ICS< the thing heated till 50 degrees + and shut off by itself ...Thank the lord for the JB update :victory:

RohinZaraki said:
Exactly. Now even when playing taxing games like GTA 3, GTA Vice City, NFSMW, the phone stays cool. I remember on ICS< the thing heated till 50 degrees + and shut off by itself ...Thank the lord for the JB update :victory:
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Lol i must admit that heating issue was good for me my hox kept me warm this winter but now hes dead and cold >.<

AW: My Fix For HOX Tegra Heat Problem
Hallo guys my hox overheating too when i play 3d games, this is the only problem i have whith this phone, if there is a solution for that then it will be the best phone ever....
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Shan89 said:
Theres something wrong with your HoX , my hox never gets *warm* or *hot* on regular use even with all 4 cores on, when playing demanding 3d games (nfs for sintence) it reaches around 35-40C max, while playing it being on charger then it gets *warm* or a little bit *hot* HoX shouldn't be getting *hot* if you're using it normally lol, only while playing 3d games on charger. At least that's how it is for me.
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And btw what rom are you using ?
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And btw what rom are you using ?
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My phone gets overheated when playing games on charge. I'm on stock JB Rom. When I was on stock ICS Rom the phone didn't get overheated regularly, but when I updated to JB it gets overheated so fast.

sekhar546 said:
My phone gets overheated when playing games on charge. I'm on stock JB Rom. When I was on stock ICS Rom the phone didn't get overheated regularly, but when I updated to JB it gets overheated so fast.
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You shouldn't be even playing intesive 3d games while on charge , that kind of stuff are killing your battery , not straight away but over the time, anyway once someone said about this *gaming while charging is same as $hitting while eating* =) , anyway it can also depend on your rom/kernel. I used to play games while on chrager due to addictivity of games tho never got really overheating issues, few times since i have it.

AW: My Fix For HOX Tegra Heat Problem
I think the problem its the kernel i have official rom jb and my hox overheatind too lm play games not while charging.
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TheRippingGhost said:
And btw what rom are you using ?
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ViperX 3.3.2 stock kernel, didn't test it for gaming long period , but gaming seems to be smoother then back in ICS days for the time i tested ( up to 10 mins each game) , didn't overheat or anything durring this 30 min test period for me, tho it's expected if you play for example NFS MF for over a hour or so to get little bit warm, but shouldn't go over 35-40C off the charger, anyway you gotta remember heeting on hox can happen as well if you're in warm room , tested that lol, played NFS in warm room at my house , actually very warm room around 30C and in another room with maybe 10C in the room, phone was much cooler then in the previous room , as for playing it on the charge it got overheated in around 20 mins of playtime in the 30C room and in the 10C room stayed little bit warmer but not overheating. So conclusion = one part of overheating depends on the room temperature lol. which means hox should be literally unplayable with charger when the summer time comes =P (btw this heat test was done back in ICS days not JB , anyway JB seams to be much better for this matter )
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My phone gets overheated when playing games on charge. I'm on stock JB Rom. When I was on stock ICS Rom the phone didn't get overheated regularly, but when I updated to JB it gets overheated so fast.
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[Q] to upgrade or to root

Hi, I am having a dilemma as titled. I am getting increasingly frustrated by the low RAM and poor battery life (with hot phone) of my Xperia S (on B.1.96 latest firmware). I use Whatsapp a lot and it couldn't keep itself in memory if I launch/run Chrome at the same time. The push notification is still there but it will load again to get into the conversation page. Does custom ROM provide much better memory handling to allow better management? My Nexus 7 feels just fine even both devices run on 1GB RAM (of course Nexus 7 has more cores, but I think it doesn't affect memory management.)
Living in Malaysia, where temperature is generally higher also doesn't help the phone, which gets hot very easily. It gets hot easily and drains battery - I could get something as ridiculous as getting 5 minutes on screen time but already went through 40% of the juice after half a day. I don't believe there is anything to do with stupid background apps as I screen my apps pretty vigorously on their efficiency and most of them are inherited from my older HTC Desire - which has no background apps problem for me. I believe it's definitely a firmware issue but I am not sure how much can custom ROM fix in that department?
Should I upgrade? My current shortlist will be either an Xperia Z1 or a HTC One. I still admire HTC phones a lot and the One certainly does very well to impress me. My main concern is on its aluminium as I'll definitely opt for the black option, it may reveal scratch and scuff very easily. Z1 looks to be an impressive phone but I am slightly worried with its increased size and weight. I always try to handle phones in one hand to see if I could drag down the notification bar without reshuffling my fingers and the HTC One is as probably the largest I could take. But the extra battery, on-screen button (a plus for me) and water-resistant ability keeps me pretty interested (especially Sony Malaysia is bundling the dock together).
Will rooting and custom ROM solve my frustration? Or I am better off upgrading to a proper flagship?

you haven't said what phone and on what firmware?
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Ben36 said:
you haven't said what phone and on what firmware?
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Oops, my bad. It's Xperia S and on latest B.1.96 firmware.

I live in Malaysia too,and to be honest - The kadar kepanasan (hot rate) is damn high recently...and if a phone is hotter,the performance will be sluggish
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unlock the bootloader and flash a custom rom?
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Ben36 said:
unlock the bootloader and flash a custom rom?
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That is one of the options but how much improvement it warrants? It baffles me that the Nexus 4 has twice the mileage my Xperia S could get - sure there's hardware and firmware difference and 300mAh difference, but it still does not make much sense to me. The Xperia S has not had good battery life and I must keep it charged whenever I have the chance.

AOSP 4.3 is amazingly smooth and fast!
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tanjinjack said:
That is one of the options but how much improvement it warrants? It baffles me that the Nexus 4 has twice the mileage my Xperia S could get - sure there's hardware and firmware difference and 300mAh difference, but it still does not make much sense to me. The Xperia S has not had good battery life and I must keep it charged whenever I have the chance.
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I suggest you unlock your bootloader and flash Pongnamu's PureSlim from the development forum. It did wonders to my battery life and it lasts a day with moderate-heavy usage.
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Is Sony cheating us??

Hi to all Sony xperia users. I was playing with my wife's micromax canvas hd phone and surprised to see its total ram exactly about 1 gb with the same screen resolution as of ours xperia s whereas in xperia s it's very low around 700 mb. Against claimed 1gb by Sony. Anyone have a explanation or their views about this?
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Sony xperia s
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Amount of free ram depends on the chipset the device uses.
None of Micromax devices use snapdragon chipsets.
While our Xperia S uses snapdragon s3 chipset and it requires that 300 MB reserved for GPU.
So you get around 700 MB for apps.
Newer chipset has reduced memory requirement for GPU like the one in Xperia Z which requires less than 200 MB.
One more example,
My laptop has 4 GB of RAM but out of that 1 GB is reserved for system and i only get 3GB Ram as usable memory.

~300mb of ram are used by system or something like that

the more the system ram,less the phone lags.check samsung phones(eg galaxy s2,it has same 1gb but 900 mb free).lags like hell.so dont complaint.all apps work fine,no problem multitasking and its fluid

franklin93 said:
the more the system ram,less the phone lags.check samsung phones(eg galaxy s2,it has same 1gb but 900 mb free).lags like hell.so dont complaint.all apps work fine,no problem multitasking and its fluid
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Heh, I wish that XS wouldn't lag

yUlekk said:
Heh, I wish that XS wouldn't lag
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It never lags for me in jb.it never lagged or even slowed down for me.just as fast as quad core,believe me.ics was good but I felt a lil slow,jb is amazing

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It never lags for me in jb.it never lagged or even slowed down for me.just as fast as quad core,believe me.ics was good but I felt a lil slow,jb is amazing
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As a matter of fact, our device had the best ICS ROM than any other during the time.. Except for Nexus devices..

sudhindrakv said:
As a matter of fact, our device had the best ICS ROM than any other during the time.. Except for Nexus devices..
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I know but never experienced because I got it during android 4.2 times.my phone is only few months old.I saw many ics review videos and they say it was one of the finest looking interface back then,well polished.I still agree it was good but felt performance was a lil slow to my taste.jb is just perfect as per speed

franklin93 said:
I know but never experienced because I got it during android 4.2 times.my phone is only few months old.I saw many ics review videos and they say it was one of the finest looking interface back then,well polished.I still agree it was good but felt performance was a lil slow to my taste.jb is just perfect as per speed
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Ours was flagship device know, so we had the best ROM like Z1 has now..

sudhindrakv said:
Ours was flagship device know, so we had the best ROM like Z1 has now..
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So sony did give it a royal treatment before killing it.thats glad to hear its really a flagship even now,for me.never slowed down.awesome phone

Are you guys using the same phone as me? lol. My phone lags like hell sometimes. It takes 2-3 minutes to open phonebook :laugh: I was blown away by note3's smoothness today. Cant wait till i get my hands on it :victory:

mithab said:
Are you guys using the same phone as me? lol. My phone lags like hell sometimes. It takes 2-3 minutes to open phonebook :laugh: I was blown away by note3's smoothness today. Cant wait till i get my hands on it :victory:
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U have some serious problems on your phone boy.. My contacts or phonebook only takes around 2 seconds max to open..

sudhindrakv said:
U have some serious problems on your phone boy.. My contacts or phonebook only takes around 2 seconds max to open..
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cool, you are using Existence?

Dodofant said:
cool, you are using Existence?
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Stock was smooth, but eXistenZ is way too fast..

sudhindrakv said:
U have some serious problems on your phone boy.. My contacts or phonebook only takes around 2 seconds max to open..
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Maybe i have too many contacts lol. :cyclops: I didn't see anyone with this problem so I guess, its on me. What governors and scheduler are you using if I might ask.

mithab said:
Maybe i have too many contacts lol. :cyclops: I didn't see anyone with this problem so I guess, its on me. What governors and scheduler are you using if I might ask.
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Ondemand and Conservative will do.. It gave me good battery and decent performance.. for good performance, u can use performance governors itself..