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[Q] Help regarding official ICS update for T989

Ok so I'm currently on Gingerbread 2.3.6. My phone is rooted. I AM NOT USING ANY SORT OF ROM. I am on the stock T-mobile rom.
The only programs I have installed on it are Titanium backup. I have performed a backup using nandroid as well as TB.
My question to you all is: Is it safe to update to the OFFICIAL ICS when T-Mo rolls out with it on June 11th?
If so, do I have to unroot? Or can I just run the update when I hook up my phone and open KIES?
Help!

If you're running the stock ROM, you should be able to update without issue. You will almost certainly lose root, though. I'm hoping it only takes a day or so for someone to bang out a rooted, deodexed, etc. stock ICS ROM once the update is released.

JaylanPHNX said:
If you're running the stock ROM, you should be able to update without issue. You will almost certainly lose root, though. I'm hoping it only takes a day or so for someone to bang out a rooted, deodexed, etc. stock ICS ROM once the update is released.
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I hope so too man. At last, T-Mo rolls out the update.
When I plug into KIES, I have another random update but I'm not going to do install it until June 12th.

solutioni9e said:
Ok so I'm currently on Gingerbread 2.3.6. My phone is rooted. I AM NOT USING ANY SORT OF ROM. I am on the stock T-mobile rom.
The only programs I have installed on it are Titanium backup. I have performed a backup using nandroid as well as TB.
My question to you all is: Is it safe to update to the OFFICIAL ICS when T-Mo rolls out with it on June 11th?
If so, do I have to unroot? Or can I just run the update when I hook up my phone and open KIES?
Help!
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You may need to flash the stock recovery via odin if you have CWM installed to update to ics

solutioni9e said:
I hope so too man. At last, T-Mo rolls out the update.
When I plug into KIES, I have another random update but I'm not going to do install it until June 12th.
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Install that lastest update b4 u update to ics. The update b4 ics is to prevent your phone from bricking when going thru the update process to ics.

MrKnitty said:
Install that lastest update b4 u update to ics. The update b4 ics is to prevent your phone from bricking when going thru the update process to ics.
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Ok but will I need to revert back to anything? Like i said in my original post, I havent loaded any custom ROMS. I've only rooted the phone via ODIN.

It is okay to be rooted, but what Mr Knitty is asking is are you on the UVLDE build of gingerbread or the KL1? You need to be on the newer, updated UVLDE.

Rod3 said:
It is okay to be rooted, but what Mr Knitty is asking is are you on the UVLDE build of gingerbread or the KL1? You need to be on the newer, updated UVLDE.
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Ok I just checked my phone settings , I am on:
Gingerbread.UVKL1
and the kernal version is 2.6.35.11
and the baseband version is:
t989UVKL1
So what can I do now?

solutioni9e said:
Ok I just checked my phone settings , I am on:
Gingerbread.UVKL1
and the kernal version is 2.6.35.11
and the baseband version is:
t989UVKL1
So what can I do now?
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Install kies on the pc, plug your phone in, and accept the update. Im not positive, but i think you need to be on stock recovery too.
Sent from my Hercules on CM9

what exactly happens when you lose root? is it JUST that apps like titaniumbackup won't function as they won't have root access?

virjog said:
what exactly happens when you lose root? is it JUST that apps like titaniumbackup won't function as they won't have root access?
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Yes. You will lose root access
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grawkiller73 said:
Install kies on the pc, plug your phone in, and accept the update. Im not positive, but i think you need to be on stock recovery too.
Sent from my Hercules on CM9
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Alright , I'll give it a go once I get home.

solutioni9e said:
Ok but will I need to revert back to anything? Like i said in my original post, I havent loaded any custom ROMS. I've only rooted the phone via ODIN.
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I tried connecting my phone to Kies after rooting and it says that a firmware update isn't supported on my device. In order for me to do anything in that regard, I'd have to unroot and then upgrade. If I were you, I'd just wait until Tmo pushes out the ICS update and when someone puts the rooted version out just install it. It will save you the trouble of having to unroot and root again just to get what your phone is already capable of getting via root.

Is there a thread for upgrading from a modded rom, like Juggernaut? Searched, but then again my eyes aren't the greatest. If I need the UVLDE update, how would I go about not bricking during such process? Sorry to intrude, just thought this was the closest thread to ask.
TerrorCandii™ Gaming uses
Juggernaut5.0/Streamline kernel

TerrorCandii said:
Is there a thread for upgrading from a modded rom, like Juggernaut? Searched, but then again my eyes aren't the greatest. If I need the UVLDE update, how would I go about not bricking during such process? Sorry to intrude, just thought this was the closest thread to ask.
TerrorCandii™ Gaming uses
Juggernaut5.0/Streamline kernel
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Theres a thread dedicated specifically to flashing the update. That thread covers every possible scenario. Look for the words flash, UVLDE, how to, and update in the titile. Its plain as day.

I think I got answer on my question in here.....

I didn't have to change back to stock recovery to update or unroot.
If on stock just flash the root file again through Odin and your good to go.
If your on a custom GB ROM. Just flash through Odin instead of Kies. Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1682955
Tmobile T989UVLDE
If coming from a leaked custom ICS ROM. I would use the super wipe and cache wipe. Then flash through Odin.
Of course back up everything with your preferred method.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA

Wait, so this flashes updated stock, but updated? I would lose my current rom setup?
*EDIT*-Nevermind, found what I was looking for. Just going to go back to stock, and wait it out.
TerrorCandii™ Gaming uses
Juggernaut5.0/Streamline kernel

dont worry
My phone its rooted just stock just to be able to use good apps like titanium addfree etc etc and when i update laat week did not gave me a problem so im thinking if u have stock rom just rooted i dont see a problem plus everyone here at xda wont let u down...trust me

What I would do, is just wait like 2 or 3 more days so someone can come out with a completely stock ICS. That way you don't have to worry about losing root
Sent from my 4.5 inch Galaxy

Jb 4.1

To start I am a newb
I Have a galaxy nexus with the 4.1 Jelly Beans ( not stock, installed via ROM from here xda). That's fine. This week a new "system" update was available for my phone. So I downloaded it and the phone reboot, when the phone starts it goes to the cwm recovery screen saying the update failed. I would like to have some HELP, I found other threads, but I really don't want to do anything worng.
My questions:
How can i get the updates to work again?
DO i need to get ICS back to update the phone?
How should i do it?
Can I do that without losing my data ( would be great, but i am ok if there is no way)
I am just afraid if i go back to ICS, and the update don't show up.

Jpcsilva said:
To start I am a newb
I Have a galaxy nexus with the 4.1 Jelly Beans ( not stock, installed via ROM from here xda). That's fine. This week a new "system" update was available for my phone. So I downloaded it and the phone reboot, when the phone starts it goes to the cwm recovery screen saying the update failed. I would like to have some HELP, I found other threads, but I really don't want to do anything worng.
My questions:
How can i get the updates to work again?
DO i need to get ICS back to update the phone?
How should i do it?
Can I do that without losing my data ( would be great, but i am ok if there is no way)
I am just afraid if i go back to ICS, and the update don't show up.
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Flash your phone back to stock... then do the ota update... profit...
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Everything must must be bone stock to install an ota.
Jellin' like a felon

The issue at hand here is that you have a custom recovery. I can't say that if you remove CWM that you'll be able to OTA update, but that's at least what was the problem there. Now, if you want to keep all your apps and update to the OTA jelly bean instead of the Google I/O preview build, you can flash this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737849
Follow the instructions on that post to update. This is what I did and it worked perfectly.

Camera not working after JB update!
Hi! I recently installed JB on my Dad's Galaxy Nexus, whilst everything seems to work fine, I've noticed that the camera has stopped working. The screen goes blank if i access the camera. I've tried installing 3rd party applications for camera, but none of them work! Please help me! Is it a hardware or a software fault?

nishantbhatia84 said:
Hi! I recently installed JB on my Dad's Galaxy Nexus, whilst everything seems to work fine, I've noticed that the camera has stopped working. The screen goes blank if i access the camera. I've tried installing 3rd party applications for camera, but none of them work! Please help me! Is it a hardware or a software fault?
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What Rom? Custom or stock
What kernel? Custom or stock
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And how do i do that? I really dont know how to flash it
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Stock JB Rom & stock kernel!
I'm gonna go back to ICS and check if that resolves the issue! What say?
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nishantbhatia84 said:
Stock JB Rom & stock kernel!
I'm gonna go back to ICS and check if that resolves the issue! What say?
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first try factory reset, otherwise yes go back to stock ics and check.

Jp182
atifsh said:
first try factory reset, otherwise yes go back to stock ics and check.
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But going to factory reset will not remove the cwm recovery... right? If i go to factory data reset on my phone ( remember i am using a 4.1 rom) will it go back to ics and delete all roms / root? Cause this sounds like the best way to do it, but you were the first one that said that. Bought my phone from Amazon unlocked ( do you guys think it is gonna update?)

I did that, no help! I think it's a hardware fault. Thanks anyway!
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I don't get it. What did you do? Factory reset? Installed the stock?
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HELPPPPPP
nishantbhatia84 said:
I did that, no help! I think it's a hardware fault. Thanks anyway!
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PLZ, tell me!! If I do the factory reset is it gonna remove CWM, and all stuff i have installed?

You said you downloaded your ROM from here, but you didn't say which one. There was at least one (Koush's) that was an image of the stock ROM, taken from the OTA update that went out to the phones given out at Google I/O. If you have that ROM (and the corresponding radio), you can just use CWM to install the OTA update. I know this works because I did it myself.
If you really have one of the custom ROMs, your only choice is to return to stock if you want the official OTA. And yes, this will remove CWM and wipe your entire phone (including anything in /sdcard)... so backup anything you want to keep before you try this. See efrant's excellent guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895

ok
phazerorg said:
You said you downloaded your ROM from here, but you didn't say which one. There was at least one (Koush's) that was an image of the stock ROM, taken from the OTA update that went out to the phones given out at Google I/O. If you have that ROM (and the corresponding radio), you can just use CWM to install the OTA update. I know this works because I did it myself.
If you really have one of the custom ROMs, your only choice is to return to stock if you want the official OTA. And yes, this will remove CWM and wipe your entire phone (including anything in /sdcard)... so backup anything you want to keep before you try this. See efrant's excellent guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895
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Sorry man, I know i am not giving a lot of information, but that's cause i really don't know. I did a random "how to update your galaxy nexus to 4.1" tutorial, and i don't even remember where...... I just know the links i download were from here.
So what i am going to do:
1: Factory data reset
2: I think it's going back to ICS
3: Just do the normal system update that should just pop up.
My only fear is if the phone does not ask for update.

If you restore to stock using efrant's guide, it will be ICS since Google has not yet posted Jelly Bean firmware images. If you don't get the OTA notification or don't want to wait for it, you can just download and apply it manually (see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419170)

Factory reset factory reset
phazerorg said:
If you restore to stock using efrant's guide, it will be ICS since Google has not yet posted Jelly Bean firmware images. If you don't get the OTA notification or don't want to wait for it, you can just download and apply it manually (see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419170)
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I want to restore it VIA FACTORY RESET. Cant i?

Jpcsilva said:
I want to restore it VIA FACTORY RESET. Cant i?
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No, that will just wipe data. You'll have a clean phone, but with the same ROM you currently have. The phone doesn't keep a copy of the stock firmware hidden away or anything like that. Efrant's guide is the proper way to restore everything back to stock.

Quick question about unrooting.

Hi,
I tried searching but couldn't find a definitive answers since there are so many topics. I have a T989.
Right now I'm rooted with CWM Recovery and STOCK version 2.3.6 of Android. Been that way for months. I think it's about time to upgrade to 4.0.4. Now my question is...do I have to put stock recovery back on the phone in order to update? Kies alerted me there's a firmware update.
If I do have to restore to stock recovery...what is the process of doing this?
If I don't have to restore to stock recovery...will anything happen if I upgrade to 4.0.4 while being rooted?
Do you recommend wiping the device before upgrading?
Thank you.

Why not just odin or flash a rooted 4.0.4?
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It is not required to unroot to upgrade your software. If you want to utilize rooted stock you can upgrade it using the stock firmware and pushing it through odin. Kies is unstable and I've encountered many that kies causes more problems then assistance. In reality is up to you. My understanding is that you do need to be completely stock for kies to complete the update. I prefer odin (7mins compared to almost an hour with kies), and no you don't have to wipe to do it through odin, however is going to wipe it for you...with the exception on any media you have stored on internal.
I will warn you, stock ics is very very wonky and often lags something wicked. Just be prepared...
sent from my t989 full of CM goodness and a touch of venom from the darkside!!!

EnigmaticGeek said:
It is not required to unroot to upgrade your software. If you want to utilize rooted stock you can upgrade it using the stock firmware and pushing it through odin. Kies is unstable and I've encountered many that kies causes more problems then assistance. In reality is up to you. My understanding is that you do need to be completely stock for kies to complete the update. I prefer odin (7mins compared to almost an hour with kies), and no you don't have to wipe to do it through odin, however is going to wipe it for you...with the exception on any media you have stored on internal.
I will warn you, stock ics is very very wonky and often lags something wicked. Just be prepared...
sent from my t989 full of CM goodness and a touch of venom from the darkside!!!
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I don't want to upgrade really...but I'm having too many issues. My phone keeps rebooting itself or will freeze. My WiFi calling is acting up...telling me to update my 911 address when it is already there, and have already re-updated it. When making a phone call, or changing brightness using the widget, it will hang for like 30 seconds before the call goes through...etc.
I feel like the ICS update will resolve some of those issues.

Personally I would update via Kies to the newest official release (4.0.4 ICS I think) I also think if you update via Kies you will have to re-root the phone unless you don't want to do that and just run stock ICS. There usually is a BIG difference in positive directions when they release official firmware. What could it hurt? Having to re-root which only takes 5 minutes max?

Pee Wee Herman said:
Personally I would update via Kies to the newest official release (4.0.4 ICS I think) I also think if you update via Kies you will have to re-root the phone unless you don't want to do that and just run stock ICS. There usually is a BIG difference in positive directions when they release official firmware. What could it hurt? Having to re-root which only takes 5 minutes max?
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Why not odin sounds a lot easier to just odin it.
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Teo032 said:
Why not odin sounds a lot easier to just odin it.
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It seems easier via odin, I just never have really messed with odin other than rooting.

Will updating to ICS fix the issues I'm having? lol

Yes in most cases. Gb on this device was terrible in my experience. Use odin...i flash back to stock ever more and then to tinker inside the device as i learn to mod roms. Fishing through odin is a breeze and takes up less system resources from your comp...and its FASTER! but that's just my opinion
sent from my t989 full of CM goodness and a touch of venom from the darkside!!!

Thanks.
Also, do I have to update any radio and Kernel? or just the firmware?

nuggstein said:
Thanks.
Also, do I have to update any radio and Kernel? or just the firmware?
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If you are going back to stock and fishing just the stock tar through odin...it will do it all for you
sent from my t989 full of CM goodness and a touch of venom from the darkside!!!

Thanks for the help everyone. Flashed 4.0.4 via Odin, did a wipe, and everything is working great!!

[Q] Anybody successfully updated to JB 4.1 through KIES?

I just tried to update my ICS Galaxy S2 to JB 4.1 through Samsung Kies, and the update process took a dump on me and I spent the better part of the last two hours getting the phone up and running again. The phone is rooted, and the recovery installed is Clockworkmod touch. My battery was right at about 51% when I started, so it may have had something to do with it im not sure. Anybody successfully updated? If so can you please share your story? Thanks.

No problems for me, but I returned everything to stock first. Stock recovery included. Might've been your issue
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I had no problem updating a few days ago. Was running stock rooted ICS with CWM non-touch recovery. It took close to 2 1/2 hours including updating Kies, but it worked fine. My battery was probably closer to 85% (and I have a big aftermarket battery).

I did a few days back also. No problems when I ran it for the day.

Officially, I think the battery should be at 80% for Kies to let you update, but that is not important now.
My first attempt bricked the phone, I tried taking it to a third PC for the emergency recovery and it did not work on that PC at all.
I got a replacement phone instead of trying again, but on the 3rd and final PC it worked fine.
The first 2 PCs had windows XP while the final was W7, I don't think windows was the issue, but on the first 2 I did sometimes have issues detecting the phone, so I unplugged and plugged it back in a few times for it to connect. I think that was the key to the problem.
On the final machine it connected fine first time and every time. I still don't know why this happened. I have 2 more phones to update and am wondering if I should try the first 2 machines again or play it safe and use the one that worked?
Good luck.

hi,
for those of you who have stock rooted ics, after updating to JB, did it stay rooted?
mine is rooted stock ics.
thanks!
Sent from my SGH-T989

I updated my wife's phone, but it was completely stock and unrooted

testrider said:
hi,
for those of you who have stock rooted ics, after updating to JB, did it stay rooted?
mine is rooted stock ics.
thanks!
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You will lose root, but it's very easy to re-root. I rooted four T989s in about ten minutes.

Using kies, went to update my wife's phone the other day with it having like 20% battery and it gave me an error message before starting saying my battery was to low. When it came to my rooted phone I used Odin and lost root. It was pretty easy for me to root it back and start installing custom ROMs.
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Just did it today and it worked fine. Had to reinstall a newer version of Java for Kies to upgrade itself properly, but once I did that it was smooth sailing.

Hi all,
now please don't laugh: what exactly is the advantage of getting JB over ICS?
thanks.
Mike
Sent from my SGH-T989

I managed to soft brick my phone on the first attempt to use kies. Fortunately, the phone was sick on Odin download mode. I used Odin too flash a new ics image and the second time, the kies to 4.1.2 worked just fine. My original OS version was ics from the tm ota update on a new phone.
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I had mine rooted with TWRP, but with stock radio and it upgraded without problems.
testrider said:
Hi all,
now please don't laugh: what exactly is the advantage of getting JB over ICS?
thanks.
Mike
Sent from my SGH-T989
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There are a bunch of improvements, they took out a lot of bloatware and fixed a bunch of glitches so JB is a lot faster and smoother than ICS. Also they brought back some features that were taken out of ICS like a Contacts button in the phone (I never understood why they took it out in the 1st place)...
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Will the stock jb from TMobile work on my Telus 989?
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I was on a rooted Stock ICS and I used Kies for the update. It was successful, but of course I lost root. Since then the phone has been faster, smoother and has better battery life. I still have not manged to re-root using either CWM nor TWRP, even after re-flashing the stock JB via ODIN, (I am still working on this).
disneytech951 said:
I just tried to update my ICS Galaxy S2 to JB 4.1 through Samsung Kies, and the update process took a dump on me and I spent the better part of the last two hours getting the phone up and running again. The phone is rooted, and the recovery installed is Clockworkmod touch. My battery was right at about 51% when I started, so it may have had something to do with it im not sure. Anybody successfully updated? If so can you please share your story? Thanks.
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steve adams said:
Will the stock jb from TMobile work on my Telus 989?
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I am pretty sure through Odin, But why not install the Telus version with the new radio?

Octane70 said:
I am pretty sure through Odin, But why not install the Telus version with the new radio?
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I didn't think telus had job for the gs2x yet.
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steve adams said:
I didn't think telus had job for the gs2x yet.
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think again.

Just to be safe you should always odin back to the last stock rom before doing an update through kies. You dont have to but I get nothing but pasper weights if I dont. I never had a problem with kies with a completly stock phone though. And I think thje batt is 80% but I always charge it to 100% just in case.

Official KitKat for Canadian GS3 variants out now?

Is this for real??
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=31062

Yes it is. KitKat is now available for the Canadian Note II and S III.

It is real! :victory:
Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and Galaxy S3 upgrade to KitKat now available to download
Now, the real question is : is the bootloader locked ?!

Waiting rooted stock ROM:fingers-crossed:

Telus made their available earlier today, and Bell's is out now.
On a side note, does anyone know how to get the update on a rooted device? I just rooted mine a few weeks ago. Still running stock ROM, but nothing I've tried seems to work.

radapex said:
On a side note, does anyone know how to get the update on a rooted device? I just rooted mine a few weeks ago. Still running stock ROM, but nothing I've tried seems to work.
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Forget it, you won't be able to get it through official OTA.
Once you're rooted, your only way to update is to wait for someone to create a flashable zip of the update, flash the entire ROM by downloading from samfirmware or wait for a custom ROM.

HiKsFiles said:
Forget it, you won't be able to get it through official OTA.
Once you're rooted, your only way to update is to wait for someone to create a flashable zip of the update, flash the entire ROM by downloading from samfirmware or wait for a custom ROM.
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Tried updating over KIES - what an ordeal. Had to run through emergency recovery twice but finally got it. I wasn't using root access for a great deal - basically lose out on Greenify automanaging and being able to revoke permissions. I can live with that for a while.

I hear towelroot for the s5 works with the kk update.
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radapex said:
Tried updating over KIES - what an ordeal. Had to run through emergency recovery twice but finally got it. I wasn't using root access for a great deal - basically lose out on Greenify automanaging and being able to revoke permissions. I can live with that for a while.
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KIES doesn't want to recognise my device and Odin is... either stuck on flashing system.img.ext4 or taking really long... heh
EDIT: Changed USB port and Cable and it flashed properly...

Great News!
That's really a great news!!! Anyone planning to make a flashable zipfile for this rom without the bootloader and knox? I preserve 4.1.2 bootloader on my phone since 4.3 came out. So far, is this update good ?? i heard battery life not really good...
Thanks guys!

Has anyone tried installing the firmware using Mobile Odin and using the Everroot option?
I'm not really willing to try it for myself as this is my daily driver phone...

I wouldn't recommend this update. I updated this morning and everything seemed fine until I tried running Waze on the way home from work. My device was plugged into power as it usually is, but now on this new version my battery is actually discharging WHILE connected to power.
Now to look into rolling back. This is a deal breaker.
Edit: And for the record, this drain is confirmed on two different Galaxy S3's in our house.

Ymodem-G said:
I wouldn't recommend this update. I updated this morning and everything seemed fine until I tried running Waze on the way home from work. My device was plugged into power as it usually is, but now on this new version my battery is actually discharging WHILE connected to power.
Now to look into rolling back. This is a deal breaker.
Edit: And for the record, this drain is confirmed on two different Galaxy S3's in our house.
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Dis you update via OTA or odin with data wipe?
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I just installed update. I was rooted running flashed stock 4.4.3 rom... I used Android Toolkit from skipsoft and it worked..
I tried different ODIN versions with no joy.. Using the Android Toolkit somehow when it loaded ODIN the flash to stock 4.4.3 worked...
UPDATE: I disabled AVG while using toolkit, i had not using odin orginally it may be related to my issu

Be careful using the toolkit. Its been known to brick devices and cause other problems as well.

Yay. Pretty much the same as using any method I suppose. Got lucky I guess.

Is this new bootloader is locked to prevent downgrading to another bootloader ???

Its not "locked" (meaning you can still flash custom recoveries and kernels), but I fully expect it'll be the same as before with regard to downgrading.

DocHoliday77 said:
Its not "locked" (meaning you can still flash custom recoveries and kernels), but I fully expect it'll be the same as before with regard to downgrading.
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Ok. So downgrading from 4.4 bootloader to 4.3 should not work i guess??? . Another question, With 4.4 bootloader, is it possible to flash a 4.3 Rom ???

Correct. Provided its like 4.3, you can only flash the same or newer firmware.
I believe you should still be able to flash older roms like before, but have not seen this confirmed yet.