Hey guys - I just got the 8pi S Pen for my Galaxy Note 2 and am having an issue with it.
First of all, it seems like you need to put a little more pressure on it compared to the s pen that comes with the Note 2 - but that's not too bad. The issue I'm having is that if am writing in landscape mode, there is an area on the right side of the screen (say ~ 1/2 inch) where the pen fails to write. ie. if I draw a line from the left to the right ..there'll be a blank hole near the right edge. This doesn't happen w/ the stock pen. I switched out nibs and it's still happening - it'll work sometimes, but mostly if you're writing a sentence, it'll fail in that area.
Could it be a bad S Pen? See the screenshot...
Thanks.
just realized i had a similar problem as well... i've found when holding my phone in a landscape orientation the angle that I write or draw in makes the inaccurate touches occur. If I hold the pen at the same angle I would if it were in portrait I have no problems at all... I'm not really sure but I'm going to go to ATT tomorrow to see if their demo unit does the same.
I am having a problem with my Note 2 in general but in particular when in use the Spen that comes with the eraser. When u try to write about a quarter inch from the same left border the ink doesn't register. If I draw a horizontal like across the page I will get the first Harter in then it skips for about quarter in before resuming again.
I thought that is was just a dead area but when I change angles on the pen or use more pressure the line draws solid.
I tried a couple different tips but no difference. It is slightly better with the Note 2 Spen.
Ideas?
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I have a similar problem. My Spen with eraser will only write in the middle of the screen, and eratically even there. The stock Spen works 100%.
Moreover, the Spen with eraser works fine on other Note 2s.
I called Samsung about it, and they eventually gave me an rma number for the phone, but I am not sure if I'm going to send it in. No guarantee the replacement will be any better.
Btw, this is all after trying the porentiometer adjustment.
It must be a Sprint Note 2 thing.
My Spen eraser does the same thing.
I ended up getting the Spen kit for the Note1 and it works great. It also feels much more like a real pen for me.
I found this thread doing a search, I usually hang over on the VZW part of this forum. I also have been having the same troubles with the spen with eraser. I changed tips and that made things even worse. Question for those using the spen kit for note 1, does the stock spen for the note 2 fit in the barrel of the pen holder in the kit?
I looked at the tips of the stock spen and the spen with eraser and they are shaped differently. My spen with eraser will work if I hold the spen completely vertical to the screen, but how often can I do that? I am usually in a hurry to jot something down and do not have time to put it on a level surface and hold the pen vertical.
Same issue I have had
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So, I always try to tinker with things. So far I am not too versed in tinkering with apps, software, wiring, or other nonphysical or internal electronic things, but I'm a just a novice student of XDA so far
Anyways, I looked at the s-pen holder, and found that I had crapped a brick, at the $30-40 price tag. So... dremel! I cut a few pens apart, and finally came across a large sleeve portion, that I could slide onto the pen, until it is stopped my the raised part at the end. What I found, was that, not only did this quickly removable sleeve not block off the S-pen button, it added a comfortable raised area at the button's border. I used to accidentally press the pen button. Not with my cheapskate sleeve!:good: It feels more comfortable, and has more control over writing (i tested that by drawing freehand geometric shapes, sleeved VS naked stock, BIG IMPROVEMENT!)
I also modified the flip case, my velcro-ing 2 small Moleskine books (that have been modified by using electrical tape, to make surprisingly good pen holsters). I found that try as I might, to completely eliminate paper (when you have OCD, it's more trouble than it's worth), I found that it still has its place. I can write to-do's on index cards, put them in the Moleskine pocket, and I can rearrange them as I please, unlike a paged notebook planner. Obviously I can also write physical notes, and have a functionally relevant place to store business cards, and scraps with phone numbers, and detach the physical notebooks for OTG. An added plus, is that my crappy case only does landscape orientation. In college lectures, It is more comfortable to write in portrait, not to mention, the audio recording mic gets muffled in landscape. By removing one of the notebooks, it puts the tablet at the perfect slight angle for writing comfort.
Will post pics once I can sync them up with dropbox. Was wondering if anyone else was tinkering with physical mods. I'd like this thread to be one where everybody gives tips & shows their DIY work. :highfive:
How is it possible to hold this tab in portrait mode with those stupid hardware buttons located at where my left had is supposed to grip the tab?
I think this will be a turnoff for people who intend to use the tablet mainly for reading and annotating textbook, unless there is an option to disable hardware buttons while in portrait mode or completely disable them and replace them with software buttons with orientation.
The alternative will be holding the tablet upside down with the left hand gripping the camera
btw this is the only issue holding me from buying this tab
It seems like people are making a bigger issue out of this than it actually is. The long side is around 10 inches long and the buttons might take up three. I'm sure you'll be able to handle it without accidental button presses. In my opinion, having the menu button just below my thumb is a welcome feature.
Since the buttons are on the long side, that is the default way of holding it. Now the question is that if you are holding it with left hand, why you don't simply rotate it to other direction?
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Since the buttons are on the long side, that is the default way of holding it. Now the question is that if you are holding it with left hand, why you don't simply rotate it to other direction?
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Being a right handed person i hold the tab by the left hand and write/turn pages by the right.
I'm not sure if holding the tab by the camera is a wise idea, for the risk of accidentally touching the camera lens.
fryguy18 said:
It seems like people are making a bigger issue out of this than it actually is. The long side is around 10 inches long and the buttons might take up three. I'm sure you'll be able to handle it without accidental button presses. In my opinion, having the menu button just below my thumb is a welcome feature.
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It may be only me but I'm more comfortable holding the tab from the middle of the left side.
Kimo377 said:
Being a right handed person i hold the tab by the left hand and write/turn pages by the right.
I'm not sure if holding the tab by the camera is a wise idea, for the risk of accidentally touching the camera lens.
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Well I don't see why touch the lens is that bad thing, as it usually is the part of phone, for exsample, which is touching table etc. And any fingerprints can be easily wiped from the lens. But that is just me.
ps. I don't understand using covers with phones either, with tablet they are more useful.
Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.
I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.
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I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.
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Well I don't see why touch the lens is that bad thing, as it usually is the part of phone, for exsample, which is touching table etc. And any fingerprints can be easily wiped from the lens. But that is just me.
ps. I don't understand using covers with phones either, with tablet they are more useful.
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For me phone cover is more important since I drop it frequently unlike the tab
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Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.
I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.
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I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.
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You are right about the back camera but the front one i use frequently for video calls.
Looks like i'm the only one that actually likes the idea of a hard button! it's an instant access to home, not being able to do this on a nexus annoys me, but i don't see why this should be a deal breaker really.
Han Solo 1 said:
Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.
I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.
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I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.
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Say what you will but I think an inch bezel around the whole tablet is necessary, how else you plan on holding the thing if there is no room for your thumb. I could care less about what any isheep has to say about my tablet.
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thank god it has a thin bezel and a hard button. finally i'm convinced to buy a tablet.
I was holding of for years until there was one like this one. why dont you guys that want a thick bezel get one of the other dozen tablets that have the design you want. they have been out for years.
demz92 said:
Looks like i'm the only one that actually likes the idea of a hard button! it's an instant access to home, not being able to do this on a nexus annoys me, but i don't see why this should be a deal breaker really.
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While im not crazy about the idea I do have a Note 2 and already i'm use to them being there.
Actually I can see some benefits....
I'm sure you can disable the buttons or a program will come out that can.
In fact here is a rough draft on how to hack them...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34247225&postcount=14
The reason why they have physical buttons is because since 4.2 and up, the tablet UI became the phone UI. So you no longer had a bar at the bottom, one side with cappy buttons and the other with the notification drawer.
Instead you have a status bar like on phones AND a bar at the bottom for only three buttons. Less screen estate, especially considering that Samsung would use the Home, Back and Menu buttons in capacitive form. That takes away quite a bit of screen space and you can see it happening especially in videos. To get what I mean, take a look at the 4.2.2 firmware for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. More screen is lost because the design guidelines have changed.
What Samsung's done is take away the bottom bar and used the physical buttons instead. Not the best solution but it allows for more screen space. On the Note, it'd be a bit of a shame to have about a centimetre thick part of that awesome screen taken up by three buttons.
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Soryuu said:
The reason why they have physical buttons is because since 4.2 and up, the tablet UI became the phone UI. So you no longer had a bar at the bottom, one side with cappy buttons and the other with the notification drawer.
Instead you have a status bar like on phones AND a bar at the bottom for only three buttons. Less screen estate, especially considering that Samsung would use the Home, Back and Menu buttons in capacitive form. That takes away quite a bit of screen space and you can see it happening especially in videos. To get what I mean, take a look at the 4.2.2 firmware for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. More screen is lost because the design guidelines have changed.
What Samsung's done is take away the bottom bar and used the physical buttons instead. Not the best solution but it allows for more screen space. On the Note, it'd be a bit of a shame to have about a centimetre thick part of that awesome screen taken up by three buttons.
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I agree with this. Though I am not a huge fan of the physical buttons I really like that it has the extra screen real-estate.
someone will mod it soon. i've actually gotten used to the buttons on my gn8. the only time hate em is when gaming. the rom I use has a mod to turn them off and only make them useable via spen. you'll get used to it too. you may never like it, but you can find a work around.
As someone who owns this tablet the physical buttons are a huge step backwards. Why? That POS menu key. Coming from the original Note 10.1 it's ridiculous constantly hitting that menu button to find out if it has a menu available. Compare to the original Note 10.1 where menu options appear in the action bar. Samsung has completely ruined the tablet experience with their incredibly stupid design choices. This tablet is such a huge pain to navigate. Why can't somebody else offer a Wacom stylus on their 10" Android tablet? I wish Google would throw an S Pen'ish stylus on their Nexus 10 so I can rid myself of Samsung's incompetence. I've never had such a frustrating tech purchase.
I have a Note II with a physical menu key but it's not nearly as frustrating because everything is so close together. I feel like my hand is running a marathon with this tablet having to move all ovef the place to navigate the UI.
I love the S Pen. It works beautifully. The screen is gorgeous. It's not a brick like some other high resolution tablets. It's very powerful and fast. Why oh why did they throw hardware keys on this thing and muck everything up. I would gladly take the black bar on the bottom with home, task switch and back if I could.
The disable hardware keys mod cannot come fast enough for me.
i'm not really diggin the physical buttons either. there's enough screen real estate to have the nav bar on the bottom. the home button is ok, but the menu and back have becoe more and more of a nuisance. i tolerate them on the gn8 b/c of the extra screen area i get plus using the soft nav buttons hack doesn't hide button properly in full screen video.
i can get use them being there on the note10 but i don't won't like them better than soft nav buttons. i hope if they hack it that it'll properly hide in full screen.
I haven't read the posts in this thread, but I wanted to comment that I happen to like the hard buttons. I'm right handed and hold it with my left like OP. I like that I can reach the option, home and return buttons (this is what you all mean by "hard buttons" right?) with my thumb. The design feels very intuitive and quite natural. I also recently found out that you can quickly access the task manager by holding down the home button. It will open up a menu similar to the menu that opened when you pressed the double rectangle button on the older model. The more time I spend with this device the more I love it. My mom is actually getting the new Note 3 so she's going to let me have her Note 2. I can finally get rid of this iphone 3 that came free with my contract.
Hi all,
So, I have been going back and forth and back again between the Nexus 6, the Note 4 and the soon to be released S6. My hands are not large (feet are 11's tho and I do find that the Note 4 is probably pushing the one-handed operation boundry for my hand size. I have all but ruled out the N6 as a result and that leaves the Note 4 (half off right now) or the S6 (released months away) so, this is what I have observed with countless demos and plays at stores and a friend's Note 4...
I can't type one-handed! BUT because of something very specific, my palm is accidentally touching the enter key in the lower right corner when I type. Over and over I get line breaks during typing. I cannot stand the samsung keyboard, tried swift key and google keyboard as well. It appears to be the way I must hold the Note 4 due to it's size, my palm just over laps uncontrollably. No matter how hard I try I cannot seem to prevent this action lol
I know the answer, buy a smaller phone unless you Note Masters have any other suggestion!
Thx,
riz
In swiftkey settings theres a opinion to add arrows below the space bar / keyboard / enter key.. I have that set on mine it basically adds a row and since i can never get the right place i use the arrows alot. Its a possible option.
Matttrix said:
In swiftkey settings theres a opinion to add arrows below the space bar / keyboard / enter key.. I have that set on mine it basically adds a row and since i can never get the right place i use the arrows alot. Its a possible option.
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Thx, i tried that too... cursor was still flyin around.
I wonder if a case with a lip would help, I have only played with it caseless putting my palm much closer to the edge than if with a case... tbc
Screensaver.tv said:
Thx, i tried that too... cursor was still flyin around.
I wonder if a case with a lip would help, I have only played with it caseless putting my palm much closer to the edge than if with a case... tbc
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My new Outter Box Defender case has a nice lift on it .. a couple things I changed was the screen cover and I also cut the mico usb rubbery cover as it was bending my cords.