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I'm looking a purchasing a Samsung Note II that will be used on AT&T network. Since my upgrade is a year away, I have a Skyrocket that's only a year old, this phone will be a full price for me. I'm trying to find out some specific questions on the different Note II phone types, euro vs North America and what preloaded software differences are between them.
* the Note II that I purchase MUST have 4G LTE (AT&T FINALLY turned on 4G LTE in North East OKLA about 4 weeks ago! ..LOVEING IT).
* 10 minutes after I purchase the phone and verifying that everything is in working order it gets rooted.
I can purchase the phone from AT&T for full retail for $649. Best Buy said they would match that price (we'll see if they really do). When at Best Buy I asked about the preloaded software on the Note II (sense they do not have a working model on the floor) I was told in a blunt tone that it was an AT&T phone so it would work on AT&T's network. So i got no help on that front.
Questions---
1. Is the AT&T Note II phone that Best Buy sells have the same preloaded junk that comes on the one at the AT&T store?
2. Is the AT&T Note II phone that Best Buy sells been stripped of some of the Note II futures like the one at the AT&T store?
-- I read on a Amazon review the following---- http://www.amazon.com/review/R2Q2WM4I4VO8J7/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R2Q2WM4I4VO8J7
Be aware that the AT&T version of the Galaxy Note II is currently missing various standard functionality that Samsung is marketing and the other major carriers provide- missing functionality include:
~Multiview
~Group Shot Camera mode - with the ability to change faces
~Mobile data toggle
~Blocking mode toggle
~Screen Recorder
Since I am trying to get the most bang for my buck (a lot of bucks) which Note II phone that will work on AT&T that has 4G LTE should I be looking at?
(note- I suffered waiting on an ICS update from AT&T, so not having to depended on AT&T for my Android updates is a big plus)
Any advise or pointers is appreciated
Thanks
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The Note II that is in the Best Buy and AT&T stores are going to be exactly the same. Given your concerns with the missing features compared to the international model, keep in mind once you root the device and install a custom recovery on it, you can flash N7105 ROMs to essentially make it function identical to the international model but with AT&T LTE. I've been doing that since I've had the phone and it works perfectly (No AT&T preinstalled apps and all the features you want): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016575
TRF-Inferno said:
The Note II that is in the Best Buy and AT&T stores are going to be exactly the same. Given your concerns with the missing features compared to the international model, keep in mind once you root the device and install a custom recovery on it, you can flash N7105 ROMs to essentially make it function identical to the international model but with AT&T LTE. I've been doing that since I've had the phone and it works perfectly (No AT&T preinstalled apps and all the features you want): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016575
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Cool thanks!
^^^ I don't even know why you bothered answering this absurdly asinine question. I'm questioning the seriousness of it. The entire OP statement was a grammatical nightmare. I just told my bestie what was asked, and after he died laughing, he ripped him to shreds. To suggest that Best Buy somehow had some control over what goes inside of a phone ... like they have their own phone service or software peripherals. I don't even know where to begin. Perhaps an iPhone 5 would be more akin to your needs, OP.
Everyone's got to start from somewhere, given the fact how much control U.S. carriers have over handsets to go as far as locking the bootloader or placing their company logo on the device's home button, it's a legitimate concern. As far as grammatical errors go, I've seen much worse.
If I'm not mistaken, Best Buy did sell devices that were exclusive to them such as a white HTC Incredible and a few other handsets.
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Haven't been to this website in a while ... Been using an iPhone for about a year .. Tried some of the [supposed] iPhone killers. Xperia and others, but I didn't like them. I have this phone coming tomorrow ..
HTC TOUCH PRO2 II UNLOCKED T7373
Am I in the right place ?? HTC has so many phones. This one that I am getting is the European model, 2 cameras .. I was due for a free upgrade from Tmobile but that phone looked awful compared to this version .. Are the models different ? I don't think Tmobile has to cameras, I don't need 2 but if I can have 2, I want them.
Diane
theonlynickleft said:
Haven't been to this website in a while ... Been using an iPhone for about a year .. Tried some of the [supposed] iPhone killers. Xperia and others, but I didn't like them. I have this phone coming tomorrow ..
HTC TOUCH PRO2 II UNLOCKED T7373
Am I in the right place ?? HTC has so many phones. This one that I am getting is the European model, 2 cameras .. I was due for a free upgrade from Tmobile but that phone looked awful compared to this version .. Are the models different ? I don't think Tmobile has to cameras, I don't need 2 but if I can have 2, I want them.
Diane
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Hi Diane,
The model you got (unlocked unbranded HTC TP2) will work here in the states, but I don't believe that you will be able to use T-mobile's 3G bands on it, so your data would only be EDGE (i.e. slower). Unless I'm mistaken, Tmo is the ONLY carrier in the world that uses their specific 3G bands, so unless you buy a phone branded by T-mobile, odds are you won't get 3G with it.
Now as far as the dual cameras....that's another thing that no US carrier has implemented, yet. The phone may have the camera, but if the provider you're using doesn't have that capability setup on their network, it's not much good to you I'm afraid. I believe I've seen some upcoming models for AT&T that advertise a front camera, so I believe they're about to introduce that capability...but as for now, none of the carriers here can do that
But yes, you're in the right place....every model of this phone is technically a "HTC Rhodium", no matter what carrier model (or unbranded) it is. So, these are the forums you want to be in, to learn more than you ever wanted to know about your new toy
Thanks for your reply and info. My Tmobile contract is up for renewal on this one. June for the contract that my HTC shift uses... I am wondering if I should renew or just go with ATT .. they seem to have better phones and better service .. anyone agree ??
diane
theonlynickleft said:
Thanks for your reply and info. My Tmobile contract is up for renewal on this one. June for the contract that my HTC shift uses... I am wondering if I should renew or just go with ATT .. they seem to have better phones and better service .. anyone agree ??
diane
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The best people to ask that are the ones that live or work in close proximity to you...it doesn't really mean a hill of beans what anybody's reception is like anywhere but where you'll most often use the phone Find a friend with AT&T and compare coverage with them side-by-side in different places.
Be careful about switching carriers because one or the other seems to get "better phones"...that can change with the wind, and you may find the only one phone you really want, went to the carrier you chose not to go with lol. Also, carriers and manufacturers negotiate new agreements for almost every new phone that gets made, so one carrier may get several great new phones this quarter, but nothing truly decent for months and months, so...just pick your carrier based on your service needs (price, coverage, signal quality, etc), there will always be a way to get a phone you like no matter which you choose.
My service needs are simple. I don't care about 3G. But if I did, Tmobiles is different than anyone elses. I never really use the browser on my phone. I check my eBay auctions on my phone, but not with a browser. My iphone "has an app for that."
What disappoints me most about Tmobile is that not many of the new phones work with Tmobile. iphone doesn't. My iphone cost me about $700 because I had to get it from Italy where it was unlocked by Apple. I bricked my other one. The Blackberry Bold 9000 also wasn't unlocked for Tmobile. And there are others.
Even their website is HORRIBLE .. I have been with them for about 10 years. It is time I stopped waiting for them to get with the program.
I'm an American currently living in Kuwait for work, and I was going to buy an S3 here. It comes unlocked and according to coworkers who have bought phones out here in the past, it will work in the US on ATT's network (and most importantly, it's red!).
Anyway when I go back to the US, assuming the phone as purchased will work on ATT like I think it will, what should I expect from customisation. I've never bought a non-US android before. I understand that roms usually come in US and International varieties due to hardware differences. If I put an International rom on my phone, can I expect it to work with ATT in the same way that the stock rom would?
And is there anything in particular that I should be aware of when buying and rooting/customising my new phone? (aside from the usual concerns about doing it correctly and such).
Thanks!
Will work fine only you won't get lte speeds here in the states..
I'm curious how much (in usd) the phone goes for out there locally?
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I paid KWD199, which is a little over USD$700. Phones are a bit pricier in Europe and the middle east than they are in the US.
Hello,
I plan on getting the S3 in a couple of months, after when I save up and was wondering which one should I get? The AT&T or the international version? I will he using it on Straight Talk with the Bring your own phone plan. I'm using the Nexus right now, just having trouble trying to figure out which one I should get. Thanks!
asheehanjr said:
Hello,
I plan on getting the S3 in a couple of months, after when I save up and was wondering which one should I get? The AT&T or the international version? I will he using it on Straight Talk with the Bring your own phone plan. I'm using the Nexus right now, just having trouble trying to figure out which one I should get. Thanks!
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If you're using it on Straight Talk and you want the more powerful one, international (it's what I use). The downside is that if something goes wrong with the phone, you're pretty much screwed unless you can send it to someone in the UK or Europe to send to Samsung for repair. The upside is you have a beast phone with faster updates (custom ROMs don't show up out of thin air; you need some sort of leak or OTA to work off of for non-CM ROMs). Another perk is you get FM radio, but I don't know how important that is to you.
If you want a cheaper S3 with all the features but a slightly slower processor (only for intense gaming; 99% of things will run great), get the T-Mobile or AT&T version. I think they're like $50-$100 cheaper. You'll also be able to send the phone to Samsung US if there's an issue. I ran into a fairly common (from Google searching) issue where my i9300 could no longer make calls, but everything else including the earpiece and speaker were fine. The modem rebooted everytime I made a call and I later found out it was a hardware issue. I had to send the phone back to the Amazon seller who was in Germany so they could send it to Samsung. Cost me $73 for 3-day shipping. HOWEVER, the seller told me in an email that I have a 2-year warranty, not 1-year. So that's a perk you may want to consider. I have the Vodafone UK version, but Samsung will repair it in any country that's part of the EU (e.g. France, Germany, Italy, Spain, UK, etc).
Basically, unless you game a lot, go for the US version. I happen to game a lot, and I didn't wanna wait for the US versions (I bought my i9300 in July). If I had waited, I'd probably have gone for the US version. And for anyone who brings up RAM, it doesn't affect performance. It only allows more apps to be open in the background, and Android fills up unused RAM anyways, so it really is not a deciding factor.
I agree with Product F(RED). Unless you're going to do intense CPU processes the US variant will suit your needs wonderfully. You won't need to worry about lag or slow downs. And if you plan to root there are custom ROMS that are faster than the Stock rom.
Product F(RED) said:
And for anyone who brings up RAM, it doesn't affect performance. It only allows more apps to be open in the background, and Android fills up unused RAM anyways, so it really is not a deciding factor.
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It doesn't affect performance, true, but also owning an orignal Galaxy S (i9000), I can assure you RAM is a factor when it comes to upgrading the OS!
The 512Mo in the SGS1 is the main reason why Samsung didn't upgrade the device to ICS.
There are ICS and JB custom ROMs available for the SGS1, but the device is definitely suffering from the limited of amount RAM.
Because of this, RAM, for me, is definitely a factor that made me choose the North American variant over the international one.
idk to be honest i would get galaxy note 2 at this point the gs3 is already 6m old
I was also going to hold out for the note 2, but it just to big and I already have a nexus 7.
Had both multiple times, i went ahead and stayed with the US version. I dont game at all and i see NO difference in speed, plus LTE is AWESOME.
Nickel Dime Bay said:
Had both multiple times, i went ahead and stayed with the US version. I dont game at all and i see NO difference in speed, plus LTE is AWESOME.
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No LTE on Straight Talk, so it's not like it matters.
Oh wow i totally missed that, i say get the international then.
Looking to purchase a Note II and had some questions
I'm looking a purchasing a Samsung Note II that will be used on AT&T network. Since my upgrade is a year away, I have a Skyrocket that's only a year old, this phone will be a full price for me. I'm trying to find out some specific questions on the different Note II phone types, euro vs North America and what preloaded software differences are between them.
* the Note II that I purchase MUST have 4G LTE (AT&T FINALLY turned on 4G LTE in North East OKLA about 4 weeks ago! ..LOVEING IT).
* 10 minutes after I purchase the phone and verifying that everything is in working order it gets rooted.
I can purchase the phone from AT&T for full retail for $649. Best Buy said they would match that price (we'll see if they really do). When at Best Buy I asked about the preloaded software on the Note II (sense they do not have a working model on the floor) I was told in a blunt tone that it was an AT&T phone so it would work on AT&T's network. So i got no help on that front.
Questions---
1. Is the AT&T Note II phone that Best Buy sells have the same preloaded junk that comes on the one at the AT&T store?
2. Is the AT&T Note II phone that Best Buy sells been stripped of some of the Note II futures like the one at the AT&T store?
-- I read on a Amazon review the following---- http://www.amazon.com/review/R2Q2WM4...R2Q2WM4I4VO8J7
Be aware that the AT&T version of the Galaxy Note II is currently missing various standard functionality that Samsung is marketing and the other major carriers provide- missing functionality include:
~Multiview
~Group Shot Camera mode - with the ability to change faces
~Mobile data toggle
~Blocking mode toggle
~Screen Recorder
Since I am trying to get the most bang for my buck (a lot of bucks) which Note II phone that will work on AT&T that has 4G LTE should I be looking at?
(note- I suffered waiting on an ICS update from AT&T, so not having to depended on AT&T for my Android updates is a big plus)
Any advise or pointers is appreciated
Thanks
Yes: the AT&T Note II phone that Best Buy sells has the same preloaded junk that comes on the one at the AT&T store. i'd go with the at&t Note II. as of today, there are ported international ROMs that will work with the at&t Note II. i only use ported ROMs that exclude the modem (radio) and are posted in and/or linked to from the at&t Note II Forums. i'm currently using a ported, international N-7105, JB 4.1.2 ROM that doesn't include the modem. it also includes the stock multi-view feature. there are some small feature differences between the international and at&t version, e.g., keyboard on international version doesn't have long-press for symbols, but nothing that I would consider a show-stopper. international ROMs use different icons to note 4G/LTE service, but i have LTE connectivity with LTE speeds. everything on my Note II works as i would expect it to. see the pictures below.
i'm amazed at how ridiculiously easy it is to root Samsung Android devices. that being said, be sure to read, read, read and understand what you're doing before you do it. (i apologize is my suggestion appears condescending: i'm basing my suggestion on your low post count ).
A (possible) correction and a suggestion:
I use CleanROM for my ATT Note 2 and it does have a toggle for blocking mode. Dunno if this is or isn't a stock feature but it's out there.
Try negotiating with AT&T. I was able to speak to an ATT supervisor through 611 and get a lowered cost for my Note 2 (line was eligible for an upgrade) and my get my wife an S3 for $100 11 months before she was upgrade eligible. Your experience may vary greatly, but by all means, it's worth a shot. They shipped 2-day UPS for free.
I think the screen recording was pulled from all Note II's. Copyright concerns. I've been keeping my eye open for a mod or ROM that enables it, but haven't seen anything yet.
Sent from my Note ][
Screen recorder and and multiview are both missing, but everything else is there. Sprint added the multiview in via OTA update on their version, so ATT should follow suit with their version of the Note.
I'm coming from Verizon phones, so the bloat on this is minimal compared to what I'm used to. If you're rooting, though, it's not going to matter. You can freeze/uninstall it, anyway. Even without rooting, you can disable all of the bloat through the stock app manager, anyway.
Boyfriend was a year out on his upgrade, got the 199 everyone else got by being nice to the csr, no haggling or retention needed.
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I would love to help you, but help yourself first: ask a better question
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Hey, I'm pretty new to modding phones and have been searching around for a way to get my phone (SM-N910A) to be able to run android 8.0 or higher but haven't found anything. Is it just not possible at this time without swapping out parts of the phone or is there a way I have overlooked?
XDApplePie -- The ATT N4 Model SM-N910A cannot be rooted. That was what two genuine experts told me, but they didn't explain why. If so, I think a custom rom can't be installed.
I too want to flash a custom rom to my ATT Note 4. There are many N4 custom ROMs but I can't find any that support the ATT N4. I noticed that ALL the supported N4s have the Exynos chip but NO SnapDragon N4s are supported. The ATT N4 has the Qualcomm SnapDragon chip. My guess is that for some reason the SnapDragon chipset might the obstacle.
TLDR All because of a locked bootloader from ATT due to government contract; even the bounty on in here didn't have a winner
I myself have moved on to Tab A 8 with SPen and just recently to Note 10+ (can't let go of the SPen)
boofman said:
TLDR All because of a locked bootloader from ATT due to government contract; even the bounty on in here didn't have a winner
I myself have moved on to Tab A 8 with SPen and just recently to Note 10+ (can't let go of the SPen)
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I just got off my Note 7 after futilely *****ing out AT&T for deceiving its customers. AT&T does say its phones are locked ... but when you ask a Customer Service Rep if the phone can be 'unlocked' after the contract is expired & phone paid off in full, they say 'yes'. But I just learned that ATT means 'carrier unlocked' only! But the bootloader remains locked forever.
ATT never tells customers that BOTH the carrier and bootloader is locked!
I have two classic Notes -- 4 & 7 -- trapped in stock ATT Android 6 -- and just learned I can't custom rom them to Andy 9. Heartbreaking for a Note FANatic.
So, I am looking at an unlocked Note 10 bought directly from Samsung. But ha, ha, ATT's worthwhile features like its custom dailer, sync calls between Note & Galaxy Watch, Spam Call Block, & etc won't work on a non-ATT unlocked Note 10. The greedy corporate assholes.
My daily driver ATT N7 is cooked. Its ATT Andy 6 is forever frozen. Its 3.5 yr old STOCK battery is failing. OEM replacement battery is a hopeless hope. A battery mod is extreme. I am heartbroken. I have to get a N10 ... and probably an ATT variant for the sake of my ATT Galaxy Watch.
Oh boy, I let ATT trap me like a sheep to be sheared.
Hah, Corporate Big Brother at its worst. Locked bootloader even though you pay for the phone