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How do I know I have a KF2?

Just a few questions, need to get this kf rooted and romed for my son asap. Its for his learning.
1. My original kf broke so they told me they would send me a 2nd gen kf as an apology. Well how do I know the kf I got is the 2nd gen?
2. Can I root this kf2 I just got today the same way as my original kf? If not what's the easiest way to root the 2nd gen kf If i do indeed have it? My first kf came in a brown box, the one I received today was in a black one.
3. Will all ROMs work on the 2nd gen kf that worked on the first kf?
Thanks guys..
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xXezmacXx said:
Just a few questions, need to get this kf rooted and romed for my son asap. Its for his learning.
1. My original kf broke so they told me they would send me a 2nd gen kf as an apology. Well how do I know the kf I got is the 2nd gen?
2. Can I root this kf2 I just got today the same way as my original kf? If not what's the easiest way to root the 2nd gen kf If i do indeed have it? My first kf came in a brown box, the one I received today was in a black one.
3. Will all ROMs work on the 2nd gen kf that worked on the first kf?
Thanks guys..
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
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1, look for the software version,, an easy sign that you have a kf2 is the launcher(kf1 looks like a bookshelf) (kf2 has a single line of apps on the home screen, with a line under those for app suggestions).
2, NO look in the dev section for the root method, roms, and bootloader and recovery installation.
3, NO^^

fmkilo said:
1, look for the software version,, an easy sign that you have a kf2 is the launcher(kf1 looks like a bookshelf) (kf2 has a single line of apps on the home screen, with a line under those for app suggestions).
2, NO look in the dev section for the root method, roms, and bootloader and recovery installation.
3, NO^^
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The rooting method for the KF2 seems hard... I'll give it a go, thx.
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xXezmacXx said:
The rooting method for the KF2 seems hard... I'll give it a go, thx.
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lol.. two one click scripts is too hard?
Then Idk how you intend to get a rom installed. that includes clicking a button on an app that I made, clicking a button to boot into recovery, clicking install, choosing your rom from your sdcard, swiping across the screen, tapping a button to reboot... I suppose if you don't actually need it..

im guessing i got the new one its looks so different, its got a cool black matte look to it. says im on 10.2.4_user_2420720

xXezmacXx said:
im guessing i got the new one its looks so different, its got a cool black matte look to it. says im on 10.2.4_user_2420720
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That's kf2

fmkilo said:
That's kf2
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few more ?s before i attempt to root, jsut want to make sure i dont mess up this is for my 3yr old son.
to start the first part, rooting, im guessing i should follow this guide: [Root][Working 10.2.4]Kindle Fire 2 Root made easy - do you recommend this guide to root?
- but after I'm rooted how do I install a recovery, i guess twrp is still the one everyone uses? [ONE-CLICK] Automated Freedom-Boot and TWRP installer ??
- then i guess after recovery is installed i can just flash a rom, but only from the kindle fire 2 section?
- last, why is there only 2 roms out?
thx so much for your help, much appreciated.

xXezmacXx said:
few more ?s before i attempt to root, jsut want to make sure i dont mess up this is for my 3yr old son.
to start the first part, rooting, im guessing i should follow this guide: [Root][Working 10.2.4]Kindle Fire 2 Root made easy - do you recommend this guide to root?
- but after I'm rooted how do I install a recovery, i guess twrp is still the one everyone uses? [ONE-CLICK] Automated Freedom-Boot and TWRP installer ??
- then i guess after recovery is installed i can just flash a rom, but only from the kindle fire 2 section?
- last, why is there only 2 roms out?
thx so much for your help, much appreciated.
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perfect guide.
just let the app or script in that thread(MINE) run.
There is no alternative at this time.
Only the kf2 section, correct.
We only gained the ability to do this 9 days ago. The instructions were released 7 days ago to everyone, not just testers. People need time to work, it's a miracle that Powerpoint45 got his sgt7 rom out as quickly as he did. I recommend his rom, as Hashcode's rom is base cm10.1.

fmkilo said:
perfect guide.
just let the app or script in that thread(MINE) run.
There is no alternative at this time.
Only the kf2 section, correct.
We only gained the ability to do this 9 days ago. The instructions were released 7 days ago to everyone, not just testers. People need time to work, it's a miracle that Powerpoint45 got his sgt7 rom out as quickly as he did. I recommend his rom, as Hashcode's rom is base cm10.1.
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ok awesome ill get to it in a sec...i just saw this kindle freetime, i guess you pay 2.99/month and get unlimited books, videos, etc. can this be ported to one of the roms? my son would love this.
btw do you have a gtalk i could reach you at if i have issues? i really appreciate your help.

xXezmacXx said:
ok awesome ill get to it in a sec...i just saw this kindle freetime, i guess you pay 2.99/month and get unlimited books, videos, etc. can this be ported to one of the roms? my son would love this.
btw do you have a gtalk i could reach you at if i have issues? i really appreciate your help.
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I use irc... it's always open, just join the channel #kf2-dev on freenode. I also don't know about kindle freetime. Maybe at some point in the future, but as I said, the development is only 7 days old.

fmkilo said:
I use irc... it's always open, just join the channel #kf2-dev on freenode. I also don't know about kindle freetime. Maybe at some point in the future, but as I said, the development is only 7 days old.
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im the irc channel. could you please join, i need help. im tryin to root right now.

(Q). Help

Ok so I've been looking for a rooting method for my Kindle Fire( non hd ) with 10.3.0 fw
you mention the forum, ive looked in it. but im not able to find a single place which provides a method for that. so my question is this: is there a working method to root a Kindle Fire (nonHD) 10.3.0 fw without a factory cable? im assuming my KF is a 2nd gen model (it is, isnt it?). if so, please explain or provide a link for that.
also, every place i see says : ** ONLY FOR 1ST GEN. TRY FOR 2ND GEN AT YOUR OWN RISK **. it says so on the TWRP help forums and even the KFU help forums. what do i do??
Im not new to using the downloading apk method to get apps, but off lately whenever i download an apk from silk browser onto my KF and the notification pops that the download is complete, i click on the notification which is what you do to install that apk. but when i hit the notification, *nothing* happens. absolutely nothing. the notification disappears and the app is not installed. why? :/
regarding the problem with apks, i even mailed it to myself and tried downloading it from the stock email app, but no, even from the email app, the APK (as an attachment) refuses to start downloading
any help is appreciated

I believe you're in the wrong forum. That's why you only see "ONLY FOR 1ST GEN"
Try this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1789

votinh said:
I believe you're in the wrong forum. That's why you only see "ONLY FOR 1ST GEN"
Try this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1789
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i have come across that before
In of the posts in that forum, dev Hashcode has posted what seems to be a quite successful 4.2.2 stock ROM by the looks of the comments. but i really dont understand the entire process cause im new to flashing etc
if you dont mind, could you please write me an in-depth step by step instructional for this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146030

tiwersi said:
i have come across that before
In of the posts in that forum, dev Hashcode has posted what seems to be a quite successful 4.2.2 stock ROM by the looks of the comments. but i really dont understand the entire process cause im new to flashing etc
if you dont mind, could you please write me an in-depth step by step instructional for this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146030
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I don't think you understand my point, brother.
I said you are in the wrong forum. This is the 1stGen KF forum.
Your device is 2ndGen.
I can write up an instructions but again, it's for 1stGen since I don't have the 2ndGen.
Follow instructions for device A to device B is UNWISE.
You don't want to brick your KF and you know I don't want indirectly bricking your device.
My suggestion once again: go to the 2ndGen forum and ask for help, I'm sure there are many experts there will help you through.

Kindle Default SW

Sorry for the double post....posted this earlier today with no hits.
Hello all. Glad to have found this forum. Been here for a short time and from the looks of it, I am in the right place.
Have a Kindle Fire 2nd Gen and was looking to flip it to Android OS.
Problem - My Kindle did an OTA software update and from reading the forum doesn't look like I will be able to go back to an older version which means I am stuck with the simple Android 2.(something).
As this forum has a wealth of information I know I have not read every tread......
Any advice on converting to Android 4.(something)?
My Kindle Fire has SW Version 10.4.8
Thanks in advance for any help.

wrong forum, you have a Kindle Fire 2, I have requested that this thread be moved to
7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
but you should read [REF]All Things About Kindle Fire 2
edit: thread was moved from Kindle Fire General
to Kindle Fire 2 Q&A, Help and Troubleshooting

sd_shadow said:
wrong forum, you have a Kindle Fire 2, I have requested that this thread be moved to
7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
but you should read [REF]All Things About Kindle Fire 2
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Thanks for the direction and help. Will keep searching.

You need to root, and install Twrp recovery, then you can install custom roms.

sd_shadow said:
You need to root, and install Twrp recovery, then you can install custom roms.
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I was reading on a different part of the forum that if I root it the way it stands (w/ SW 10.4.8) I would brick it. The warning was pretty certain because with this SW build it closes all the "holes" - so to speak.
Unless there has been some new development.
Read question 5 from this thread......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228534

Dustoff00 said:
I was reading on a different part of the forum that if I root it the way it stands (w/ SW 10.4.8) I would brick it. The warning was pretty certain because with this SW build it closes all the "holes" - so to speak.
Unless there has been some new development.
Read question 5 from this thread......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228534
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You misunderstand q5. You can root 10.4.8
If you want to install the second bootloader and twrp you'll have to downgrade the bootloader. .. But root is fine
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mindmajick said:
You misunderstand q5. You can root 10.4.8
If you want to install the second bootloader and twrp you'll have to downgrade the bootloader. .. But root is fine
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I guess the next question would be has anyone successfully converted 10.4.8 to Android?
If so, what are the steps. I can find steps for an older SW version but not 10.4.8.

Dustoff00 said:
I guess the next question would be has anyone successfully converted 10.4.8 to Android?
If so, what are the steps. I can find steps for an older SW version but not 10.4.8.
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Yes. I have. Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963
You'll see that part of the instructions will downgrade the bootloader. I greatly recommends that you have a fastboot cable available since this is a notoriously tricky device. Hit me up on Pm if you need more detailed assistance.
You only! Lol. Every time I say that I get 1000 pms from other people.
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mindmajick said:
Yes. I have. Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963
You'll see that part of the instructions will downgrade the bootloader. I greatly recommends that you have a fastboot cable available since this is a notoriously tricky device. Hit me up on Pm if you need more detailed assistance.
You only! Lol. Every time I say that I get 1000 pms from other people.
-》Sent from my mind to your screen.
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Understood. I will give this a shot and see how it goes. First thing,,,,find a fastboot cable.
Thanks for the help

[Q] Possible to Root Kindle Fire 2 10.5.0?

Is there a working root method for 10.5.0?

Is the Bin4ry's Root not working anymore?

KF2 10.5.0
No, Bin4ry's Root dont work. it realy messes up the sytem. looking for new method.

xromz24 said:
No, Bin4ry's Root dont work. it realy messes up the sytem. looking for new method.
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I rooted mine on 10.5.0 a couple weeks ago using Bin4ry's root. It seemed to work fine after that, but I didn't run it too long before attempting to put custom android on it. Ended up flashing the wrong boot loader and then replaced the motherboard. The New one was 10.5.0 as well and rooted using bin4ry then flashed correct boot loader. It's running android like a champ now. No more limited o.s. and haven't run into any issues as of yet.

Can you put up instructions please
Steve1698 said:
I rooted mine on 10.5.0 a couple weeks ago using Bin4ry's root. It seemed to work fine after that, but I didn't run it too long before attempting to put custom android on it. Ended up flashing the wrong boot loader and then replaced the motherboard. The New one was 10.5.0 as well and rooted using bin4ry then flashed correct boot loader. It's running android like a champ now. No more limited o.s. and haven't run into any issues as of yet.
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I've been trying to figure out how to root my Kindle Fire 2 Gen for a few weeks now....can there be anyway you could like put a video how to do it so people don't get bricked devices and for beginners it would save a lot of people's time and money don't you think i think it would be fair to everyone if they were able to have this info on what software to use and what boot loader who else agrees because rooting devices is a open source process which should be shared with all like i said it would be great to know how to do this process if you can do thank you

Trainboy001 said:
I've been trying to figure out how to root my Kindle Fire 2 Gen for a few weeks now....can there be anyway you could like put a video how to do it so people don't get bricked devices and for beginners it would save a lot of people's time and money don't you think i think it would be fair to everyone if they were able to have this info on what software to use and what boot loader who else agrees because rooting devices is a open source process which should be shared with all like i said it would be great to know how to do this process if you can do thank you
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I just went by the following guide...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963
Followed it exactly as its posted and it worked. The first time I tried I used a different guide and ended up hard bricking to a state that it wouldn't even turn on. Replaced the motherboard with a used one and then followed the guide in the above link and it worked for me. I rooted first using bin4ry then just followed that guide. Then installed a custom android Rom. Make certain of which kindle you have before flashing anything to it.. it's a crappy feeling sitting there looking at a dead kindle. I'm not saying that method will work for everyone on 10.5.0, but I was able to get it to work for mine. First time I've hard bricked a device and it was because I downloaded and flashed a file which was meant for a different model kindle.
Good luck! If it doesn't work then hopefully someone can come up with a more modern method.

question
Steve1698 said:
I just went by the following guide...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963
Followed it exactly as its posted and it worked. The first time I tried I used a different guide and ended up hard bricking to a state that it wouldn't even turn on. Replaced the motherboard with a used one and then followed the guide in the above link and it worked for me. I rooted first using bin4ry then just followed that guide. Then installed a custom android Rom. Make certain of which kindle you have before flashing anything to it.. it's a crappy feeling sitting there looking at a dead kindle. I'm not saying that method will work for everyone on 10.5.0, but I was able to get it to work for mine. First time I've hard bricked a device and it was because I downloaded and flashed a file which was meant for a different model kindle.
Good luck! If it doesn't work then hopefully someone can come up with a more modern method.
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but what version of bin4ary did you use

Trainboy001 said:
but what version of bin4ary did you use
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Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v30

Steve1698 said:
Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v30
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i tried it and not when im on my kindle my screen is flashing the logo screen and it's really slow what do i do??

Trainboy001 said:
i tried it and not when im on my kindle my screen is flashing the logo screen and it's really slow what do i do??
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I'm not sure. Mine didn't do that. It seems like the thing ran like **** after rooting, but after rooting I just went on with flashing 2nd bootloader and twrp then installing a custom Rom. So honestly I couldn't tell you much more about it... I just got it to work somehow. Sorry, good luck.

flopower1996 said:
Is the Bin4ry's Root not working anymore?
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I delved into the guts of Bin4ry's Root a little bit. It uses 3 (IIRC) binaries, "getroot", "su" and "busybox" and plays games with remounting blocks as RW and using getroot to put things where you wouldn't normally be able to. It utterly failed for me on the first go because of the new tightened file permissions everywhere in 10.5.0.
Doing
Code:
C:\adb> adb root
before running Bin4ry's script helped out a lot, and everything seemed to go correctly until the busybox install phase when it ran into a permission error once again.
I may look into this some more tonight; and I may try running both Bin4ry and Qemu root sequentially as per
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2075959
That's how I rooted my KF2 once before.
Steve1698 said:
I just went by the following guide...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963
Followed it exactly as its posted and it worked. The first time I tried I used a different guide and ended up hard bricking to a state that it wouldn't even turn on. Replaced the motherboard with a used one and then followed the guide in the above link and it worked for me. I rooted first using bin4ry then just followed that guide. Then installed a custom android Rom. Make certain of which kindle you have before flashing anything to it.. it's a crappy feeling sitting there looking at a dead kindle. I'm not saying that method will work for everyone on 10.5.0, but I was able to get it to work for mine. First time I've hard bricked a device and it was because I downloaded and flashed a file which was meant for a different model kindle.
Good luck! If it doesn't work then hopefully someone can come up with a more modern method.
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I followed it too, and now have custom bootloader & TWRP. I would like to stress a few points:
1) Most of the adb commands didn't work on the first go. What worked for me was typing
Code:
C:\adb> adb root
C:\adb> adb shell
adb# <command>
adb# exit
C:\adb>
in place of
Code:
C:\adb> adb shell su -c "<command>"
2) DO NOT skip the backup instructions. They saved my butt; they may save yours. A fastboot cable is highly recommended.
These directions for grabbing the backups as files worked better for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41956668&postcount=3
3) Before I found "adb root" I skipped Step 3 since I couldn't make it work and figured it might not be essential. Ended up with a bootloop. That was when I needed the fastboot cable and my backup files from when I rooted before the "upgrade" to 10.5.0.
4) I was never able to get to fastboot without a fastboot cable before I discovered "adb root". I suspect
Code:
C:\adb> adb root
C:\adb> adb reboot bootloader
will work, but I haven't tried it.

Stupid question...
Hi folks,
Can I ask a really stupid, noob question? I've not had any experience with rooting android devices in the past, but my son has a KF2, v10.5, and he'd like me to root it so he can access the play store. I've read a lot of posts on here about the signed roms and so forth, and because I'm new to the topic a lot of it is going over my head. So some questions:
1) I think, from reading here, that these warnings only apply to replacing the default rom on the KF2, to get a more android like shell. Rooting in itself is a prerequisite for doing this, and doesn't have the associated risk - is that right?
2) I should be able to root the device using the steps in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460 ? That would then allow me to install the play store? The fact I'm using 10.5 doesn't impact on this?
2b) How much risk is there in this? I think most of the risk is in applying custom roms, and the advice to get a fastboot cable applies to that rather than simply rooting the device?
3) The latest version is v36, but v30 was mentioned below. Am I better going for the latest version or going with v30
Again, sorry for the dumb questions!!
Kev
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Also, if the bin4ry stuff is okay to use on 10.5, which option should I use when I run it? Been looking through the batch file, and I'm suspecting NEWSTANDARD?

kev1609 said:
Hi folks,
Can I ask a really stupid, noob question? I've not had any experience with rooting android devices in the past, but my son has a KF2, v10.5, and he'd like me to root it so he can access the play store. I've read a lot of posts on here about the signed roms and so forth, and because I'm new to the topic a lot of it is going over my head. So some questions:
1) I think, from reading here, that these warnings only apply to replacing the default rom on the KF2, to get a more android like shell. Rooting in itself is a prerequisite for doing this, and doesn't have the associated risk - is that right?
2) I should be able to root the device using the steps in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460 ? That would then allow me to install the play store? The fact I'm using 10.5 doesn't impact on this?
2b) How much risk is there in this? I think most of the risk is in applying custom roms, and the advice to get a fastboot cable applies to that rather than simply rooting the device?
3) The latest version is v36, but v30 was mentioned below. Am I better going for the latest version or going with v30
Again, sorry for the dumb questions!!
Kev
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Also, if the bin4ry stuff is okay to use on 10.5, which option should I use when I run it? Been looking through the batch file, and I'm suspecting NEWSTANDARD?
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Okay, in case anyone else is interested, it worked fine. I used the new standard method in bin4ry. Worth noting that I was able to run adb commands before starting. If you can't then you need to sort that out first
I've installed the google play stuff now, just trying to log into a google account...

I rooted mime with kingo root with a pc.
Im looking to put gapps on it while leaving it stock. The method I used before was moving google framework and a couple of other things yo /system/app. This no longer works.
I dont have secon bootloder or anything on it anymore. Is there a way anyone knows to just put google play no it, nust being rooted stock?
Wow, 2014!! lol

My stupid Kindle updated before I rooted it and now it keeps failing to root. I've tried binary root and king root with the pc and the app. I'm really irritated about it and even more irritating is how old this device is and the chances of someone fixing the issue being minimal at best. I was gonna use it as a car radio with CM.

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kindle fire 2 binary root question
boringfrog said:
Accidentally allowed my Kindle fire 2 to update itself after I had rooted, but rooted again with no problem with version 10.5.1.
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This user had success on the same version as mine. I have the program loaded and device plugged in but can't seem to find an option on the program that even prompts my fire to recover. I'm experienced with roofing and flashing many devices but this one is throwing me a loop. Any help appreciated. Cm11 is my end goal.

What program are you loading and what are you trying to do?

I've got the same problem. i bought a KF HD 7 and want to root and customize it but there is no option to. It has 11.3.1.0_user310084920 software and when i plug it to the computer with enabled ADB and start the runme.bat it stops at the moment when it starts the daemon and thats it. No recovery popup or anything else. Any idea?
i used Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v36
Well it seems there is no way, i am really pissed. i payed 89 euro for an 2013 Kindle Fire HD 7 because i thought it would be easier to root it, if i would have known it is not possible i had bought the brand new HD 7 for 10 bucks more.

Guys, just use vRoot...

Software wont read my kindle
I cant get my kindle drivers working I really need help on how to get it to read the kindle in adb usb because i load the software and it says waiting for device to be plugged in since my kindle is plugged in im guessing this is a driver issue im having major problems with this can someone please help me my kindle isnt being detected

Fails everytime
Been trying to root my wife's Kindle Fire Gen2 10.5.1 and the root fails everytime......tried Bin4ry v36 using option 3, tried Kindle First Aide.......this is really starting to tick me off
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Bhamilto0347 said:
Guys, just use vRoot...
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It's not permanent, tried this as well

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Q&A for [Root][Working 10.3.1]Kindle Fire 2 Root made easy
Hey, I just tried to root my kindle and it did... stuff (like rebooted twice) and it shows no difference beside the fact my apps are gone (they are in the cloud, dont worry) but it did bring up this weird thing that is called 'VPNDialoge' and it looks like a coding thing and it lets me type in things, is this meaning it is rooted if so, what do i type in?
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