Hey mates, I wanted to ask how can I backup my stock rom entirely, so that I can flash it back whenver I want. I'm quite paranoid about my phone and if it will ever come to this that I will need my warranty I don't want them to cancel it. My stock rom is quite hard to find since it's only used for my cellular provider, and it's not a very famous one, I imagine it will be impossible to find it online so I need to be able to save it locally. So any suggestions lads?
once you install CMW to make a FULL backup of your current ROM (Nandroid backup) you will already have void your warranty, the best way to not void is : dont do anyting. i have spend MONTHS in learning android and learning about rooting,flashing, and ClockWorkMod now i know it very good. Read some stuff on this GIO forum and you will know what to do, but be carfull, ALWAYS follow the instructions and if you are not sure of one thing THEN ASK IT.
To answer your question:
You will need to Install CMW or any other recovery that can make a nandroid backup. Once you did that you can backup your phone completely.
See more info on the CMW topic (CWM = ClockWorkMod) (Nandroid Backup = Full backup of your phone.)
Do I have to root before I install CWM or is it not necessary?
Yes you have to be rooted
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Hey guys, this is a really simple question, but was not able to find a simple answer for this.
I'm running stock rooted and am thinking about trying a new ROM, the question is:
1) when I do a backup of current ROM through clockworkmod recovery, does this back up all my apps? or do I need to use mybackup pro or titanium to backup my apps as well as the clockwork backup?
2) if I decide that I do not like the new ROM, can I just go restore from clockworkmod and recover my old ROM (stock) or will I need to flash the RUU file to get back to stock?
Sorry for the noob type questions, just wanna make sure I am squared away to get into these custom ROMs
bretweb24 said:
Hey guys, this is a really simple question, but was not able to find a simple answer for this.
I'm running stock rooted and am thinking about trying a new ROM, the question is:
1) when I do a backup of current ROM through clockworkmod recovery, does this back up all my apps? or do I need to use mybackup pro or titanium to backup my apps as well as the clockwork backup?
2) if I decide that I do not like the new ROM, can I just go restore from clockworkmod and recover my old ROM (stock) or will I need to flash the RUU file to get back to stock?
Sorry for the noob type questions, just wanna make sure I am squared away to get into these custom ROMs
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1) Your apps are backuped, it creates an exact image of your phone at that point. If you do a full wipe then thats when Titanium backup comes in handy.
2) Restoring a nand backup as long is the stock rom backup you want will get you back up and running.
You will need Titanium backup or mybackup if ur gonna flash a new ROM. The nandroid will backup apps, but only useful when you restore back to that nandroid. To restore ur apps after flashing a new ROM, you will need titanium.
Hey... I think this thing makes phone calls too!
Hey, this may seem like a silly question but i would rather ask it than brick my device.
I have rooted and s-off my stock rom, i have installed all my apps and settings and ive got it just the way i like it. i have created a nandroid backup using clockwork mod.
I now want to try Gingervillian rom, ive got titanium backup to install all the apps back and that but what i want to know is:
Will i be able to restore my stock rom from the nandroid backup with all my apps and setting in tact, even though s-off is set and its rooted. i know a read somewhere that flashing a stock rom on a phone with s-off can semi-brick it... so will clockwork recovery do the same?
When you make a 'nandroid' backup via ROM manager/CWM Recovery, it makes essentially a carbon copy of the current setup of your ROM (not your radio, S-Off status, etc.). Literally everything is perfectly as you have it now. It just like doing a full HDD backup of your computer.
When you restore this backup, it simply brings back your ROM from exactly how it was. There is no effect on your root or S-off, or your radio.
So, if you do a nandroid backup, then wipe the device and flash another ROM i.e. Gingervillain, and make a nandroid of that, you can then freely switch back and forth between the 2 (or more) recoveries via ROM manager/CWM Recovery, with no issues.
The issues with bricking as you're referring to are if you for some reason try to somehow flash a non-rooted ROM, which would most definitely cause issues. In order to get back your phone to stock-stock-stock-stock (unroot and S-on), you will need to follow unroot instructions and flash an official unrooted RUU/PC10IMG.zip to get back to everything as it came out of the box.
Hope this helps, let me know if I need to clarify.
thank you very much matey much appreciated!!
A couple of things. I've been reading xda for a while but am by no means anything other than a "noob" I know just enough to be dangerous to my phone, but so far only soft bricked my old cappy once. So a very grateful thank you to all the hard work you guys put in to pushing the development.
As a somewhat experienced noob I can say first hand that reading through all these threads and posts that lead in a thousand directions is pretty hard and time consuming. That's why all the "what ROM is best" threads. I sounds kind of selfish coming from someone who has contributed nothing other than traffic to xda, but a section for comparing different ROMs would stop most of those posts.
Now for the questions. Is there a way to put a .zip of the stock ROM on my sd card so I can go back to stock anytime I want? I know I can flash back to stock with odin, but can it be done thru the recovery console? I would like to be able to have several ROMs saved on sd and use recovery to flash between them. I'm not real happy with ROMManager... is freezes all the time, and I've not one time been able to flash with it.
Thanks
Make a backup! Install cwm on your device ...boot into recovery> create backup....
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k.zacher said:
A couple of things. I've been reading xda for a while but am by no means anything other than a "noob" I know just enough to be dangerous to my phone, but so far only soft bricked my old cappy once. So a very grateful thank you to all the hard work you guys put in to pushing the development.
As a somewhat experienced noob I can say first hand that reading through all these threads and posts that lead in a thousand directions is pretty hard and time consuming. That's why all the "what ROM is best" threads. I sounds kind of selfish coming from someone who has contributed nothing other than traffic to xda, but a section for comparing different ROMs would stop most of those posts.
Now for the questions. Is there a way to put a .zip of the stock ROM on my sd card so I can go back to stock anytime I want? I know I can flash back to stock with odin, but can it be done thru the recovery console? I would like to be able to have several ROMs saved on sd and use recovery to flash between them. I'm not real happy with ROMManager... is freezes all the time, and I've not one time been able to flash with it.
Thanks
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WOW one of the most brutally honest statements I've seen here in a while. That's good. And yes it's all very confusing at times, even for non-noobs lol.
Answer-->once you have rooted and cwm or twrp installed make a nandroid of your system, you can restore this at any time. Once you install a rom and get it running how you want and want to try another rom make a nandroid of that one in recovery, you can go back by restoring it. You can do this in this way until your happy with what your running or you run out of storage.
One word of advice...nandroids are snapshots of how your phone is at that moment...any apps, texts, modifications after the nandroid wont be in it....but...a nandroid combined with my back up or titanium backup is great, nandroid for the system and my back up or titanium backup for texts, apps, call logs and such and you can switch back and forth or install a new rom and restore user apps and call logs, texts, ect without losing those. Remember don't back up system apps or system settings as those may mess up on a different rom, only back up user apps(those you've installed).
Hope this helps a little
BTW--> don't use ROM manager to flash anything other than the recovery. Boot into recovery and flash stuff manually. Also, I would suggest twrp recovery as both have issues with auto naming backups, but at least with twrp you can name it whatever you want before you make it.
Just be careful. I remember a Nandroid not flashing the radio but they may have fixed that. Other than that you should loose nothing other than whatever apps you may have installed on the ROM your tinkering with.
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I was hoping to make a backup of my non rooted completely stock ROM. I don't see how to do that if first I have to root and flash CWM or another recovery to do the backup. I didn't see any way to do it from the stock recovery. I have looked to see if anyone has posted an zip image of stock non rooted but the only way I've seen to go back to stock is odin3. Is that correct and am I just wasting my time? I wanted that image so I could go back and update to the new stock ROMs as they come out to test drive and see if I want to use them. Just seems easier that way.
Thanks for your responses
I THINK someone posted a zip format of stock but your best bet would be Odin since you didn't make a backup before. I was wondering this a while back too.. Kinda surprised its not in such high demand..
Edit: are nandroid backups device specific? Can one nandroid backup be used for multiple phones? If it can, I'll flash Odin and post nandroid of stock later tonight
jethro650 said:
WOW one of the most brutally honest statements I've seen here in a while. That's good. And yes it's all very confusing at times, even for non-noobs lol.
Answer-->once you have rooted and cwm or twrp installed make a nandroid of your system, you can restore this at any time. Once you install a rom and get it running how you want and want to try another rom make a nandroid of that one in recovery, you can go back by restoring it. You can do this in this way until your happy with what your running or you run out of storage.
One word of advice...nandroids are snapshots of how your phone is at that moment...any apps, texts, modifications after the nandroid wont be in it....but...a nandroid combined with my back up or titanium backup is great, nandroid for the system and my back up or titanium backup for texts, apps, call logs and such and you can switch back and forth or install a new rom and restore user apps and call logs, texts, ect without losing those. Remember don't back up system apps or system settings as those may mess up on a different rom, only back up user apps(those you've installed).
Hope this helps a little
BTW--> don't use ROM manager to flash anything other than the recovery. Boot into recovery and flash stuff manually. Also, I would suggest twrp recovery as both have issues with auto naming backups, but at least with twrp you can name it whatever you want before you make it.
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Titanium backup is a must. And pay for the app, its cheap and you support the developer.
Also, I've had better results with cwm. As soon as I make a backup to my SD card I boot into the ROM and change the filename.
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g2tegg said:
Titanium backup is a must. And pay for the app, its cheap and you support the developer.
Also, I've had better results with cwm. As soon as I make a backup to my SD card I boot into the ROM and change the filename.
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree titanium is not a "must" I've been using my backup pro for years without problems to make my backups. In my opinion its has a better more user friendly user interface with the same freeze/uninstall options. Also as a recovery twrp is gaining ground on cwm for its better options, one of which is renaming backups on the spot when you make it. Add in a file manger, terminal window, multiple flashes at once and many more options many think it is a better recovery. The way the newer cwm makes nandroids makes it very hard to delete individual nandroids, search cwm blobs for more info.
Also, check our mskips toolkit stickied in the dev section for a backup. You will need to be rooted but not to sure about the recovery. You may be able to do it with the stock recovery as I think it uses adb for pretty much everything it can. There is a way to make a backup on stock recovery through adb but you will need to be rooted, his toolkit will do that also.
HI, this question is for the SGH-T989 specific, so some of the other answers I saw for other devices didn't really help me..
I recently just Rooted my phone!! Yay...I know, it's about time...Well, I'm trying to understand this stuff as I go about this journey...Basically I bought this phone once it came out..(Oct. 2011) I had the original Gingerbread 2.3.6 on it.. periodically getting the updates and installing them till I was on the ICS 4.0? whatever one came out in Aug-Sept 2012. With that said, I had some issues and wanted to go backwards, which I did successfully using ODIN..that's where I stayed for the last 5 months or so....
I actually had a hard time trying to get the super user 3.0.7 installed, so I had to use an older CWM (recovery-cmw-hercules.tar) which allowed me to install the SU...
I guess I needed to be on ICS in order for the latest one's to work. I now want to install ICS (the latest one) in order to try out some ROM's and was wondering:
1. Once I upgrade to ICS from GB, will I have to Root all over again?
2. Will my Nandroid back up still work if I restore it from back up in the Recovery Area? reinstalling all my apps and data for apps?
3. I'm using Titanium Back up too, so does this mean, that once I Nandroid back up, I can wipe it as many times as I want, I can just restore all my stuff using the Nandroid back up/ Restore?
I was going to use the last 2 of the followling: ClockworkMod Recovery 6.0.2.7 or ClockworkMod Touch Recovery 6.0.2.7 or TWRP Touch Recovery 2.4.1.0 again, as I tried them before, the Super User didn't work..But understand that these 2 will, when I update...
Basically, I don't want to loose all my Data and apps, but if I need to back them up, I will, just in case...
Homeuser66 said:
HI, this question is for the SGH-T989 specific, so some of the other answers I saw for other devices didn't really help me..
I recently just Rooted my phone!! Yay...I know, it's about time...Well, I'm trying to understand this stuff as I go about this journey...Basically I bought this phone once it came out..(Oct. 2011) I had the original Gingerbread 2.3.6 on it.. periodically getting the updates and installing them till I was on the ICS 4.0? whatever one came out in Aug-Sept 2012. With that said, I had some issues and wanted to go backwards, which I did successfully using ODIN..that's where I stayed for the last 5 months or so....
I actually had a hard time trying to get the super user 3.0.7 installed, so I had to use an older CWM (recovery-cmw-hercules.tar) which allowed me to install the SU...
I guess I needed to be on ICS in order for the latest one's to work. I now want to install ICS (the latest one) in order to try out some ROM's and was wondering:
1. Once I upgrade to ICS from GB, will I have to Root all over again?
2. Will my Nandroid back up still work if I restore it from back up in the Recovery Area? reinstalling all my apps and data for apps?
3. I'm using Titanium Back up too, so does this mean, that once I Nandroid back up, I can wipe it as many times as I want, I can just restore all my stuff using the Nandroid back up/ Restore?
I was going to use the last 2 of the followling: ClockworkMod Recovery 6.0.2.7 or ClockworkMod Touch Recovery 6.0.2.7 or TWRP Touch Recovery 2.4.1.0 again, as I tried them before, the Super User didn't work..But understand that these 2 will, when I update...
Basically, I don't want to loose all my Data and apps, but if I need to back them up, I will, just in case...
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You'll be able to keep your data if updating from Kies. I don't know if your root will stick, but it's a simple task to reroot it.
Homeuser66 said:
HI, this question is for the SGH-T989 specific, so some of the other answers I saw for other devices didn't really help me..
I recently just Rooted my phone!! Yay...I know, it's about time...Well, I'm trying to understand this stuff as I go about this journey...Basically I bought this phone once it came out..(Oct. 2011) I had the original Gingerbread 2.3.6 on it.. periodically getting the updates and installing them till I was on the ICS 4.0? whatever one came out in Aug-Sept 2012. With that said, I had some issues and wanted to go backwards, which I did successfully using ODIN..that's where I stayed for the last 5 months or so....
I actually had a hard time trying to get the super user 3.0.7 installed, so I had to use an older CWM (recovery-cmw-hercules.tar) which allowed me to install the SU...
I guess I needed to be on ICS in order for the latest one's to work. I now want to install ICS (the latest one) in order to try out some ROM's and was wondering:
1. Once I upgrade to ICS from GB, will I have to Root all over again?
2. Will my Nandroid back up still work if I restore it from back up in the Recovery Area? reinstalling all my apps and data for apps?
3. I'm using Titanium Back up too, so does this mean, that once I Nandroid back up, I can wipe it as many times as I want, I can just restore all my stuff using the Nandroid back up/ Restore?
I was going to use the last 2 of the followling: ClockworkMod Recovery 6.0.2.7 or ClockworkMod Touch Recovery 6.0.2.7 or TWRP Touch Recovery 2.4.1.0 again, as I tried them before, the Super User didn't work..But understand that these 2 will, when I update...
Basically, I don't want to loose all my Data and apps, but if I need to back them up, I will, just in case...
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1. I'm 99% sure u will lose root. BUT that's my opinion and you need the fact so wait till someone else answers. However I don't see the harm in re-rooting. As stated before - quite simple.
2. No if u restore a nandroid back up u would undo ur progress and go back to gingerbread - the exact state in which you created the backup.
3. If you are using Titanium and all u need backed up is ur apps and data then ur set. Doing a nandroid backup is just a safety net in case ur update to ICS goes wrong. If your update goes well then that backup is now useless. If it goes wrong then u restore your backup to gingerbread and try the whole process again. So in summary - Nandroid for system backup , Titanium for apps and data. Also, as long as you don't wipe ur internal storage or SD card u will always have ur titanium back ups saved and therefore can wipe in recovery as much as u want since it only effects the system partition.
I see your confusion lies in differentiating between a nandroid backup and apps/data backup and what each one is for. Hope I cleared it up. Good luck
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bzlik88 said:
1. I'm 99% sure u will lose root. BUT that's my opinion and you need the fact so wait till someone else answers. However I don't see the harm in re-rooting. As stated before - quite simple.
2. No if u restore a nandroid back up u would undo ur progress and go back to gingerbread - the exact state in which you created the backup.
3. If you are using Titanium and all u need backed up is ur apps and data then ur set. Doing a nandroid backup is just a safety net in case ur update to ICS goes wrong. If your update goes well then that backup is now useless. If it goes wrong then u restore your backup to gingerbread and try the whole process again. So in summary - Nandroid for system backup , Titanium for apps and data. Also, as long as you don't wipe ur internal storage or SD card u will always have ur titanium back ups saved and therefore can wipe in recovery as much as u want since it only effects the system partition.
I see your confusion lies in differentiating between a nandroid backup and apps/data backup and what each one is for. Hope I cleared it up. Good luck
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Yes!! Thanks!! You cleared up a lot of questions I had. I also answered some of my own by just doing things with trial and error, but you also answered and cleared things up for me...Thanks!!!
Hi. I backed up my phone using the backup method found here: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/28296/full-backup-of-non-rooted-devices
This method uses CMD and creates an android backup file (.ab) I want to unlock my bootloader and add the custom clockwork recovery. Of course unlocking the bootloader wipes everything. So if i were to restore everything with the .ab file, then do the custom recovey with the superuser thing, would that give me root, and would all of my apps and data be restored as they are right now?
Probably a stupid question, but i want to be completely 100% sure i won't mess up my phone. I know its going to void warranty, which would be a problem if i dropped it of course
Thanks
It should work yes, you can also backup apps with an app called carbon. Free in the playstore.
Then unlock the bootloader,flash a custom recovery and make a backup of the stock rom in there right away too (needed when you want to go back to full stock for future updates) its called a nandroid backup.
Then root it and restore, or install a brand new custom already rooted rom
Thanks a lot
If it was a custom rom i chose to install, will it still restore? or would it need to be the original stock for the restore to work properly?
Danw20 said:
Thanks a lot
If it was a custom rom i chose to install, will it still restore? or would it need to be the original stock for the restore to work properly?
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Afaik know you can restore apps on any rom with carbon. Watch out with restoring system data, it can crash the rom.
Because some custom roms have more changes and if you restore system parts it will break the rom. But apps should not be a problem. The most important thing is that you do a nandroid backup of the stock rom. The rest is easy to setup new in the worst case.
Brilliant. Thanks for the help, much apreciated.
Was half expecting an answer like that, i think i will give root stock a go, then probably when HTC stop updating i will be very tempted to give a custom a go.
Cheers
I have unlocked the bootloader, i think i have flashed the recovery, downloaded nandroid and still says i need root, so i downloaded the superuser thing and when i try to install the binary thing it says there is an error. Anything i can do?
Update: I have learnt Its all good now.
Good mate ! Have fun with your rooted phone
CASE CLOSED !