Hey guys/gals, I just have a few specific questions I hope can be answered.
-When flashing via CWM, why do we need to use the Darkside Cache/Super wipe scripts? What does TWRP do that CWM doesn't that makes CWM require these scripts?
-Why should we not restore data via Titanium backup? What errors does it cause? If we do restore data by accident, is the only solution to reflash the ROM?
Thanks a lot
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comes132 said:
Hey guys/gals, I just have a few specific questions I hope can be answered.
-When flashing via CWM, why do we need to use the Darkside Cache/Super wipe scripts? What does TWRP do that CWM doesn't that makes CWM require these scripts?
-Why should we not restore data via Titanium backup? What errors does it cause? If we do restore data by accident, is the only solution to reflash the ROM?
Thanks a lot
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Older versions of cwm don't wipe properly on this phone, thats where the darkside scripts come in.. If you use twrp or cwm 6 and up you don't need them.. Also you can restore user apps data with titanium backup.. And in my opinion you can restore certain system app data as long as you are selective about it. The reason is that there could be changes to the rom that the restored data might conflict with.. In most cases you will get a lot of force closes..
But restoring your email settings and your sms. And wifi access points Shouldn't give u problems.. You can play around with it and see what works.. But if you experience any bugs you should try again with a clean wipe before you report them in the proper thread
If you do restore data by accident you can just go into your app management settings and delete the data. Or if that doesn't help you you can just go into your recovery and do a factory reset
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Thanks a lot, those were just the answers I was looking for.
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so currently im on fxp45 with doomlords kernel for CM7
everything is awesome first of all
problem is that i wanna try an MIUI rom but want to be able to go back on CM7 with everything i have right now
if i back up my system switch kernels, run MIUI ROM with appropriate kernel, then revert back to CM7 kernel can i restore to the backup i made b4?
greatly appreciate it
I tried it and i can confirm that it works. But before you restore you have to switch back to the freexperia kernel or doomkernel, wipe cache and user data in CWM recovery and then recover the backup, otherwise it won't work (at least it didn't work for me, unless i wiped the cache and user data).
Thank you I will try tommorrow
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zainthesnipe said:
Thank you I will try tommorrow
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Backup restore ONLY apps, not data.
Because this restore backup data causes a lots force close for you.
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taaviu said:
Backup restore ONLY apps, not data.
Because this restore backup data causes a lots force close for you.
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I guess zainthesnipe was talking about a full system backup (via CWM recovery), there is no difference between app and data in those backups. After restore the complete ROM will be exactly like it has been before. Settings, apps, user data, just everything. I just don't know what happens, if some apps are stored on SD... haven't tested it yet.
How can I back it up before installing a new ROM? I want to install juggernaut, but I don't want to erase all my data! Help! Please?
Go into recovery and run a backup
That will back up entire stock rom
I suggest doing this
If u want to back up ur personal data n apps use titanium backup or MyBack up pro
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just back up your data with titanium backup
install new rom
restore data with titanium.
...you shouldn't be posting questions on this thread
! only for devs !
AJ26T said:
Go into recovery and run a backup
That will back up entire stock rom
I suggest doing this
If u want to back up ur personal data n apps use titanium backup or MyBack up pro
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But won't factory reset erase everything in it?
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But won't factory reset erase everything in it?
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You are in the wrong forum buddy, this belongs in general. To answer you're question. You need to boot into recovery, under backup and restore you are going to select backup and this will create an image of your current rom or stock os. It's like taking a picture that you can restore if you don't like what ever rom you flash. It even copies text msgs and apps.
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CWM saves to the SD card - which isn't touched in a factory reset
Hey,
A question about rom's - when i flash a new rom do i really need to do a full wipe and factory reset? wont it delete all my programs messeges etc? is it possible to flash without resting everything?
Doing a factory reset will wipe all your data, apps, messages, etc. It will not wipe your internal or external sd card though so you can always restore backed up apps if you use TiBu or any app backup program. Also, create a nandroid backup through recovery and you can always restore it later or restore certain apps from it using TiBu or other apps. And yes, you can always try flashing a new ROM without a factory reset. Depending on what rom you're coming from/going to will determine whether or not you will have issues.
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Thanks for the replay, im going from stock to custom rom do i need to wipe?
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Custom ROM meaning a cm9/10, AOKP, AOSP ROM? If so, then yes. If you're just going to a stock-based ROM, then no, you'll be fine.
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Im new all this rooting and rom stuff and yesterday morning i successfully rooted and inststalled the jellybomb 14.0.0 jelly bean rom thanks to qbking77's on point videos. so the question is... how can i switch which rom im running? i like the jellybeen roms and im looking to explore more to see which better suits my needs. ive heard of doing clean/dirtry instals or something of the sort but i want the best and safest way possible so i dont run into any bricking trouble. please help?
Ok, read up on how to flash a recovery
Download the rom of your choice and place it.on your sdcard. Once you do that you can install roms by booting into recovery and finding the zip for the rom you want to flash and selecting it through the "install zip from sdcard" option
Now a clean install is whenyou wipe all partitions, aka blocks of your phones memory, (details farther down) and then install the rom zip. This method minimizes the chances for problems to occur after installing
A clean flash involves:
Formatting system
Formatting / Clearing data (also known as a factory reset)
Wiping cache
Wiping / Clearing dalvik cache
Now a dirty flash is when you just flash the new rom zip over whatever you're currently rumning, without clearing anything. This method is only recommended when flashing an updated version of the same rom, and even then, the nature of some updates can require you to do a clean flash.
One more thing, DO NOT flash any roms, mods, or zips for the international version. That usa surefire way to brick your debice because the partitions are completely different.
To learn more about how android and this.stuff works, I would suggest heading over to xda,university.com
Thanks for the info. What is the best way to back everything up? I backed everything up wen I installed th jb. Rom and went to restore and couldnt find anythingband had to start from scratch.
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Roni P. said:
Thanks for the info. What is the best way to back everything up? I backed everything up wen I installed th jb. Rom and went to restore and couldnt find anythingband had to start from scratch.
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Backup via CWM (RECOVERY) is mainly for restoring the same rom or going back to the rom you were running if experimenting, Now, can use apps such as Titanium backup to save all the other settings, apps and things. Once you flash your new rom, download it, open program and can restore your stuff that way. Personally, I'll wipe, start from scratch, sometimes i'll download an app i never use, and it just allows me to clear out the useless ones.. Happy flashing!
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Thanks for the info. What is the best way to back everything up? I backed everything up wen I installed th jb. Rom and went to restore and couldnt find anythingband had to start from scratch.
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Yes as said above, a backup through recovery (also called a "nandroid" ) stores an EXACT image of the current state of your device. Meaning all data, all system files, all apps, radios, etc. Backing up through an app, like Titanium Backup, only backs up certain things like apps and app data
Basically, if you're trying any experimental stuff that may break your system (for example, flashing a new modem or testing to see if a certain kernel works), then a nandroid is the way to go because you can restore to an exact image of a state when everything was working
Yea I did that the 1st time and couldnt recover anything. Is there a certain way I should recover or maybe I did something wrong? Im not sure. Sorry if im sounding stupid but I cant return my phone if I screw it up so im tryin to be as safe as possible. Hopefully thats understandable
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Press volume up home button and then power button don't let go till Samsung screen comes up bought 10 ish sec. Once let go phone should go into cwm, clock work mod recovery. See if you have that first
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Yea I did that the 1st time and couldnt recover anything. Is there a certain way I should recover or maybe I did something wrong? Im not sure. Sorry if im sounding stupid but I cant return my phone if I screw it up so im tryin to be as safe as possible. Hopefully thats understandable
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No no, its recovery
The recovery is basically something that allows you to install zips, it doesnt actually have much to do with recovering anything lol
But first do what was suggested right above me to check to see if you have a recovery installed
To get a more detailed description of what a recovery is and what it does, you can get over to xda-university and read through the "as user" section on recoveries
Think cwm has saved a few phones on here. Me I don't use a pc. Easy just with phone. If he's deleted his folder should he recoveR then it would bring that folder bk?
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Well yea I kno I have a recovery I use cwm... I jus need to kno how I can actually save my phones content... I dont wanna start fresh everytime I decide to flash a new rom
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OK titanium bkup. But don't restore all things if your backing up at lot as will save 4.1.2 4.2.1 and 4.2 2 and so on. Don't want to mix as fc will happen
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Used PmR to download Bravia Engine to try, used mobile odin to flash it, in the process checking ever root and SU options, clearing Dalvik cavhe and wiping data, now my phone is unable to connect to WiFi and data. This does not bode well..
Link to PmR:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
would appreciate any help on how to recover my use of data
Have you checked your apn and WiFi settings?
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Have you checked your apn and WiFi settings?
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yea set back to the old settings but not working. Currently flashing an original version of the old firmware with odin to try and rescue what's left of my phone
iamwozy said:
Used PmR to download Bravia Engine to try, used mobile odin to flash it, in the process checking ever root and SU options, clearing Dalvik cavhe and wiping data, now my phone is unable to connect to WiFi and data. This does not bode well..
Link to PmR:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
would appreciate any help on how to recover my use of data
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Why you flashed manually with Mobile Odin? The recommended method is to let PmR use the Custom Recovery to flash the MOD. Which recovery do you have installed on your phone? CWM, TWRP?
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Why you flashed manually with Mobile Odin? The recommended method is to let PmR use the Custom Recovery to flash the MOD. Which recovery do you have installed on your phone? CWM, TWRP?
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had CWM, after flashing with odin can't access anything cos of the wipe.
Stupid, stupid me
Stuck at the Samsung logo for quite some time now, what does that mean?
Should i wipe and factory reset or is there an alternative way out?
If you had cwm already then no meaning to use mob odin, anyway if factory reset doesn't work then have to Reflash rom.
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dr.ketan said:
If you had cwm already then no meaning to use mob odin, anyway if factory reset doesn't work then have to Reflash rom.
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had to factory reset, now I have a brand new spanking phone with all my data gone!
Well, at least the wifi and data are both working now, whew
You have a nandroid backup, of course? Try the tools on dr.ketan's signature.
As a last resort, you can try Kies to return to official, unrooted, stock Sammy-blessed state. :cyclops:
And start flashing again, afterwards! :angel:
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You have a nandroid backup, of course? Try the tools on dr.ketan's signature.
As a last resort, you can try Kies to return to official, unrooted, stock Sammy-blessed state. :cyclops:
And start flashing again, afterwards! :angel:
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I actually forgot to create a nand backup before messing with the flashing. UGH.
I guess being spoonfed as a previous iOS user has it's drawbacks.
Time to play with everything now that I have such a clean UI
Glad to know that your phone returned to life.:good:
Remember to make nandroid backups regularly.
Good Luck!
I recommend titanium backup or same other compare to nandroid.
Nandroid push you back to original state while you want to test mods and roms, titanium will be much helpful to restore data on cross roms.
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dr.ketan said:
I recommend titanium backup or same other compare to nandroid.
Nandroid push you back to original state while you want to test mods and roms, titanium will be much helpful to restore data on cross roms.
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was using titanium before, now i can't restore due to my data not being on cloud/sd card.
wouldn't a "snapshot" of my phone now be a better choice for a situation like this?
opgoth said:
Glad to know that your phone returned to life.:good:
Remember to make nandroid backups regularly.
Good Luck!
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which app to use for nandriod backups? so far I've seen only CWM/TWRP.
I prefer titanium on ext sd card, bcoz note2 wipes internal sd card too.
Yes cwm/TWRP needs for nandroid.
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dr.ketan said:
I prefer titanium on ext sd card, bcoz note2 wipes internal sd card too.
Yes cwm/TWRP needs for nandroid.
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I use both TB and Nand, for peace of mind, and to have all bases covered.
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I use both TB and Nand, for peace of mind, and to have all bases covered.
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TWRP seems to be working pretty well, but do i have to extract the folder and back it up on my desktop in case of another full wipe?
TWRP restores everything including desktop but remember it will be same as on day you have created nandroid. Subsequently changes won't have in it.
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Oh that's cool! So it really just screenshot the entire phone and restores back to when it was made?
Side note, each backup is almost a GB big, won't it eat up a lot of memory on your phone? As such, which options are best to select when using twrp? (eg efs, data, system)
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Efs is just 20mb, needs when you have messed up imei, it is must in my point of view even if you don't want nandroid backup
data is backup of installed applications
System is ROM, which needs to recover device when you have got something wrong.
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