4.2 Daydream and it's effect on battery - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Daydream sounds awesome. I have it displaying the clock while it's charging. My questions is, how much drainage is it doing to the battery while the screen is on?
For instance, if i had the screen completely off, I would have reached 100% in 1 hour rather than 1.5 hours since I have day dream working...?
So how much drainage?

lemonspeakers said:
Daydream sounds awesome. I have it displaying the clock while it's charging. My questions is, how much drainage is it doing to the battery while the screen is on?
For instance, if i had the screen completely off, I would have reached 100% in 1 hour rather than 1.5 hours since I have day dream working...?
So how much drainage?
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For me it charges at the same rate with daydream on(of the wall)
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What concerns me more than charging rate is screen degradation, AMOLED screens degrade over time so I wouldn't keep my screen on if I wasn't using it

Ma7moud90 said:
What concerns me more than charging rate is screen degradation, AMOLED screens degrade over time so I wouldn't keep my screen on if I wasn't using it
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Exactly, you risk burn in by using this feature too much i think
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This might be why Google switched the display type from AMOLED to the LCD in the nexus 4.
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msavic6 said:
This might be why Google switched the display type from AMOLED to the LCD in the nexus 4.
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I think it was LG's choice and I think LCD is cheaper.
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Are any of the daydreams even static? I assumed that the reason the clock bounces around is to avoid things like burn-in.

The standard one is static, some of the third party ones are not. I really wouldn't worry it too much.
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I'm using the Beautiful Widget daydream and it is awesome. One of my favorite features on 4.2
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my gnex fully charged 2hour 30min. your gnex charge to fast wow! which charger r u using?
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arrish4 said:
my gnex fully charged 2hour 30min. your gnex charge to fast wow! which charger r u using?
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my gnex also takes around 1-1.5 hours to full charge from 0%.. i use the charger that came with it

T-Keith said:
The standard one is static, some of the third party ones are not. I really wouldn't worry it too much.
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Check again, the standard daydream clock is not static, at least the digital one isn't.

i lost my original charger!
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it isn't just about burn in... amoled pixels do degrade over time like another user said,and this is a dangerous way to screw up your screen much quicker.
not a good feature to use on our phone imo

It takes a long time for that to happen there are plenty of people still rocking a Galaxy S1 and the screen is fine but I'm not saying there's no one with problems but I doubt it would mess up by using daydream
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Ya, the digital clock is not static. However, I would worry more about the navigation bar because that thing is gonna stay in landscape mode and I already got a nav bar burn-in in portrait.

arrish4 said:
my gnex fully charged 2hour 30min. your gnex charge to fast wow! which charger r u using?
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Mine too... took about 1:30h ~ 2h to fully charge... i use the original charger of GNex

Jasonhunterx said:
It takes a long time for that to happen there are plenty of people still rocking a Galaxy S1 and the screen is fine but I'm not saying there's no one with problems but I doubt it would mess up by using daydream
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depends, is it on overnight? Say you sleep 8 hours that's 8 hours extra the pixels are on per day.
Do the math, it would add up quickly

burn in only occurs when you have an static image in the same place all the time.. daydream move the clock around the screen every few seconds, and with the black background most of the pixels of the screen are off anyway.
so no, there is no danger using daydream.

rodmc123 said:
burn in only occurs when you have an static image in the same place all the time.. daydream move the clock around the screen every few seconds, and with the black background most of the pixels of the screen are off anyway.
so no, there is no danger using daydream.
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I'm not talking about burn in....
do you not know about the degradation of amoled pixels over time?
you could end up with dead/stuck pixels a lot earlier than expected.

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Ramone360 said:
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Display time on? You also charged my midway so really not that impressive
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iLeopard said:
Display time on? You also charged my midway so really not that impressive
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The screen shows that and sorry i thought about putting this topic up it was charging for 2 minutes
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@iLeopard
He's right, it shows screen on time, (39%, roughly ~8hrs)
@Ramone360
REALLY!?!? so howed you get it to charge like 20% in 2min??? I WANNA NO THIS TRICK!
doug36 said:
@iLeopard
He's right, it shows screen on time, (39%, roughly ~8hrs)
@Ramone360
REALLY!?!? so howed you get it to charge like 20% in 2min??? I WANNA NO THIS TRICK!
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I thought of putting this topic up because i saw how crazy the battery Life is. I put it charge at the time when i was not thinking to put the topic up(for about 2 minutes when the battery was at 32% or so). And thats why it says discharging!
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Ramone360 said:
The screen shows that and sorry i thought about putting this topic up it was charging for 2 minutes
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Troll. There's absolutely no way you can charge your phone like 30% in "2 minutes". Its impossible
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Nice
I think I Typded dis on mah t989 wit dat CM9 nightleh own TapuhTawlk
Also, thats not that impressive of a deep sleep time. Ive had mine up to 91% on AOKP, eugene's kernel with the deep sleep baked in.
LoopDoGG79 said:
Also, thats not that impressive of a deep sleep time. Ive had mine up to 91% on AOKP, eugene's kernel with the deep sleep baked in.
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Thats because you just let your phone sit there! I used my phone like any other person
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doug36 said:
@iLeopard
He's right, it shows screen on time, (39%, roughly ~8hrs)
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8 hours of on screen time is not reasonable. The percentage is not of the battery time, it's how much battery was used by the display.
He needs to show his on screen time by actually clicking on Screen Display.
sl___ said:
8 hours of on screen time is not reasonable. The percentage is not of the battery time, it's how much battery was used by the display.
He needs to show his on screen time by actually clicking on Screen Display.
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I forgot to show the screen on time. Wasnt thinking
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Yeah ppl wanna put that awesome battery life up on here but shen you look at their standby time its been sleeping for like 10 hours lol
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LostInTheMuzik said:
Yeah ppl wanna put that awesome battery life up on here but shen you look at their standby time its been sleeping for like 10 hours lol
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Tru
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sl___ said:
8 hours of on screen time is not reasonable. The percentage is not of the battery time, it's how much battery was used by the display.
He needs to show his on screen time by actually clicking on Screen Display.
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Correct, his estimation was simply outrageous. There are many factors that determine how much battery the display consumes. The biggest is the brightness at which the display was at the entire time, 0% brightness obviously last much longer than 100% brightness. Also the types of colors being displayed, dark colors on a OLED display drain less battery than bright colors.
iLeopard said:
Correct, his estimation was simply outrageous. There are many factors that determine how much battery the display consumes. The biggest is the brightness at which the display was at the entire time, 0% brightness obviously last much longer than 100% brightness. Also the types of colors being displayed, dark colors on a OLED display drain less battery than bright colors.
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I find ways to have better battery life. Obviously if you have brightness at 100% it will kill battery unless you have a better battery regardless
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just wondering if anyone can link to eugene's cpu sleep mod? there's also another one I read but don't remember
Go to our Theme/Apps Thread!
It'll be right under the Stickied Threads.
mobbarley said:
just wondering if anyone can link to eugene's cpu sleep mod? there's also another one I read but don't remember
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There you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739457
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Ramone360 said:
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Say what?????
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Raul69.atl said:
Say what?????
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Again....display on time? People always want to show off the best battery reports but never know how. That screenshot means very little, my guess is your phone was deep sleeping 3/4 that time.
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Whoa, what's this about screen burn-in?

I saw the other thread about it....I know it's normal, but is it eventually going to be a problem as far as like watching movies goes? It kind of seemed like the burn-ins were only visible when the background was all a solid color, via a pixel tested app....?
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If it gets bad, you'll have a ghost image that you're going to notice all the time, especially since you're now paranoid about it. Basic preventative measures will keep you straight, though, it's not as though it's a recall worthy issue. Max out your brightness and full screen a solid white screen for a couple minutes now and then, hell I'm pretty sure there's actually an app that'll even invert your nav bar, and notification bar for safe measure. Nothing to sweat over, enjoy your phone
I777 gets it done, gnex just for fun
Cmoore0965 said:
If it gets bad, you'll have a ghost image that you're going to notice all the time, especially since you're now paranoid about it. Basic preventative measures will keep you straight, though, it's not as though it's a recall worthy issue. Max out your brightness and full screen a solid white screen for a couple minutes now and then, hell I'm pretty sure there's actually an app that'll even invert your nav bar, and notification bar for safe measure. Nothing to sweat over, enjoy your phone
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I'm actually starting to get ghosting when I hide the keyboard
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Does it go away over time just as it appears at least?
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jimmyco2008 said:
Does it go away over time just as it appears at least?
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Screen burn ins do not go away over time. That is why it is called burn in. The image is "burned" onto the screen leaving a ghost of what was there.
Well the images could be burned in because they're still being displayed a lot, like the navbar or the keyboard. Like a sunburn, it stays if you stay in the sun, but goes away if you get out of the sun for a week or so.
That's where my reasoning came from... Ah well, millions of people have this "problem", I guess it's really not a big deal.
Thanks for the replies!
Here's the app that fixes it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bengigi.screen.diagnostic
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It was just said that burn in is permanent....
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Some isn't you can fix some by displaying only white color or things like that
I got my GNex yesterday and am already seeing some minor screen burn in. It looks like a bunch of rectangles along the lower half of the phone. I have 14 days to return it for another one. Should I do it now or wait as long as I can before starting the process?
It's NOT technically the burn in of the lcd days where an image was truly burned in. It's kinda like reverse led fatigue. Take the navbar for example, the leds have much less less usage time on them. So when the full screen is used the leds that are part of the navbar will burn brighter giving the appearance of burn in.
good day.
I see, so the burn in spots are actually less worn than the rest of the display?
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jimmyco2008 said:
Does it go away over time just as it appears at least?
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It goes away immediately when the keyboard is gone
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Burned in images of stock arangment of apps?

So i just bought a used galaxy nexus and have been using for a little while and i keep noticing that it looks the stock arrangement of apps on the home screen are liked burned into the screen. Like i can see them everywhere i can go and more depending on what color the screen is at. Its not software because i booted into CWM and i could seem them. Is this a defect? Or just the nature of the phone? I have tried to take some pictures but they didn't turn out to great......
Here is a link to the high quality version of the picture https://www.box.com/s/bv84z7gu0dsltgzorevi
Normal good sir.
Pretty much any used Galaxy Nexus will have some burn-in, as the display is AMOLED. Happens with all of our Galaxy Nexuses, I guess we kind of just accept it though. lol
The way the Nav Bar sits, we all will probably have it burned in sooner or later, many already have it...
Just as well, look at a black background with the display on and you'll see blotches on the screen, also normal. There's actually a sticky here about what's normal and what's not.
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Run this app for bit and it should fix it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.htc.chris.blackspotdetect&hl=en
What's a bit?
andriodfanatic said:
What's a bit?
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The app description says 20 minutes.
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Will it hurt my phone to do it say do if for like a hour or two. Maybe even like 3-5h?
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S3 Screen

I don't know much about differences in screen besides what DPI and resolution is, but yesterday I was looking at some pictures and icons on my S3 and iPod 4gen and I noticed that the iPod screen was much much brighter than the S3. And because of that I was able to distinguish gradients and textures better.
So my question is, is the screen on the S3 dimmer than on purpose or is my screen defective.
-- just in case anyone was wondering I had both devices on full brightness.
--something I noticed was that if I put the iPod at half brightness, then that would be about as bright as my S3 on FULL brightness.
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Actionx1 said:
I don't know much about differences in screen besides what DPI and resolution is, but yesterday I was looking at some pictures and icons on my S3 and iPod 4gen and I noticed that the iPod screen was much much brighter than the S3. And because of that I was able to distinguish gradients and textures better.
So my question is, is the screen on the S3 dimmer than on purpose or is my screen defective.
-- just in case anyone was wondering I had both devices on full brightness.
--something I noticed was that if I put the iPod at half brightness, then that would be about as bright as my S3 on FULL brightness.
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Did you try turning the brightness on your s3 up?
Edit: oops I see that you did. I dunno take it to a store and compare your screen to another s3.
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Yes. The screen is dimmer. Samsung cut the maximum display power to 1.3 watts allowing for a longer battery life because of how big the screen is. Also has to do with the candelas per sq inch on a screen.
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Ah I see. Is there a way to maybe to make the screen brighter some how by increasing the voltage or something.
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Actionx1 said:
Ah I see. Is there a way to maybe to make the screen brighter some how by increasing the voltage or something.
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You are comparing apples to oranges. The S3 uses samoled+, which presents blacks much deeper and whites so so. This makes for brighter whites and not so deep whites on the crapples devices giving the illusion of brighter screens. Just like comparing a plasma to an LCD. Yes there is an app to make the screen brighter, and you must be rooted. Just install the app and run it, must be clicked once per boot to work as it runs a command in the interactive shell.
Thread cleaned a bit.
Always fond of this saying: "Work the problem, not each other."
Has anybody else used that apk? Does it work? I don't want to mess up my brightness levels using it. I should be able to reboot and go back to normal but still cautious about trying it.
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I just installed it and ran it. I granted it permission but I don't see any difference.
Thanks for the info on the screen by the way
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Actionx1 said:
I just installed it and ran it. I granted it permission but I don't see any difference.
Thanks for the info on the screen by the way
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You have to have autobrightness disabled and turn the brightness all the way down before running it. I am using it and the results are blinding !
Actionx1 said:
Ah I see. Is there a way to maybe to make the screen brighter some how by increasing the voltage or something.
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Lol why do you need it brighter? It blinds me on full brightness. I always keep my half way and it's perfect.
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I still can't get it to work. I turn off automatic brightness, then lower it all down and run the app, then increase the brightness back up and still the same.
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Static vs live wallpaper

I read that to prevent amoled screens from screen burn in, you have to use a live wallpaper since its not good to have the same static image all the time. How true is this for the gs3?
Capt said:
I read that to prevent amoled screens from screen burn in, you have to use a live wallpaper since its not good to have the same static image all the time. How true is this for the gs3?
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Not true for start. But if it were, no one leaves the screen at your home screen for any length of time. So it couldn't burn in anyway.
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Think about how long you spend at the home screen. I'm guessing not a lot. Stupid to worry about stuff like this.
I guess you guys are right. I had a live wallpaper because I thought I was going to get screen burn in.
Might get an hour less battery. That's about it
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Might get an hour less battery. That's about it
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Does it really have that big of an impact on the battery?

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