I already have the camera and clock apps as well as the keyboard running on a 4.1 ROM that i like. Is there any real reason i should upgrade?
You say you like your setup, so there is no reason to update right now if you are content.
fredryk said:
I already have the camera and clock apps as well as the keyboard running on a 4.1 ROM that i like. Is there any real reason i should upgrade?
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lot of people are gettings SOD so stay away for awhile until Google fixes it.
4.1.2 roms are stable so use those if anything
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So I basically just flashed my yakjuxw build to yakju, to get my hands on Jellybean. The experience is more than awesome, buttery smooth and fast! Now, I wonder, what will (for example) AOKP bring to the table to make it 'even more' buttery and fast, etc? I'm not much of a tweaker, I just really wonder if there will be any SIGNIFICANT advantages over stock rom. It all seems a bit silly to me.
Every other Android phone I have had I've flashed all the ROMs available purely to try and have the stock experience or get to a new version of Android. I purchased the Galaxy Nexus so I would get all the updates when released and to enjoy the stock experience, I have no intention of installing custom ROMs on this device.
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aokp brings few options to try with not the speed. It's the user experience that get enhanced with custom roms.
Similarly cm10 aosp and stock custom Roms do the same but not as much as cm10 and aokp do natively.
atifsh said:
aokp brings few options to try with not the speed. It's the user experience that get enhanced with custom roms.
Similarly cm10 aosp and stock custom Roms do the same but not as much as cm10 and aokp do natively.
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So what you're saying is that it's mostly visual differences? I mean what are the key elements that AOKP/ CM10 provide?
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So what you're saying is that it's mostly visual differences? I mean what are the key elements that AOKP/ CM10 provide?
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Watch a video or something. Aokp brings a lot of new features, such as customizable navbar, options to move your clock and change your battery icon and what not, weather and calendar on your lock screen. That's the type of things you'll see on a custom ROM.
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Custom ROMs are more about extra features. At least when it comes to builds like Jelly Bean. I don't see Jelly Bean needing much in performance enhancements.
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Aokp or cyan brings TONS of useful real world features. Its not just visual stuff or fluff. If you are asking then you aren't aware what these roms offer.
The problem is their JB versions don't have much added yet. So you'd have to flash their ICS version to see a fully loaded rom.
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Aokp or cyan brings TONS of useful real world features. Its not just visual stuff or fluff. If you are asking then you aren't aware what these roms offer.
The problem is their JB versions don't have much added yet. So you'd have to flash their ICS version to see a fully loaded rom.
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Noted. It sounds interesting. It's just that it makes my head spin sometimes, all the possibilities I guess we have to wait until a good JB rom shows up. However, isn't it slightly annoying you have to reflash the whole time to get the newest builds etc? I just don't see myself doing that the whole time
I am getting a nexus Monday. Right now I have a note. I have been reading the last coupledays to try and catch up but maybe I have missed something. Isn't there already good jellybean roms out already? Like Paranoid Android?
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Noted. It sounds interesting. It's just that it makes my head spin sometimes, all the possibilities I guess we have to wait until a good JB rom shows up. However, isn't it slightly annoying you have to reflash the whole time to get the newest builds etc? I just don't see myself doing that the whole time
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Alot of roms use Rom Manager or Goo Manager to host or link to their roms, with goo manager you can update most roms like an ota update when ever the dev updates the rom on Goo.im , same holds true with Rom Manager though i dont recall which website is used.
As far as both CyanogenMod and AOKP you can use these applications so that you dont have to search for the latest and greatest, just hit a button telling the application to check for updates and if there is one it applies it for you and phone updates nice and easy, of course you have to let the phone reboot to recovery and what not but the entire process becomes automated.
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Noted. It sounds interesting. It's just that it makes my head spin sometimes, all the possibilities I guess we have to wait until a good JB rom shows up. However, isn't it slightly annoying you have to reflash the whole time to get the newest builds etc? I just don't see myself doing that the whole time
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No not at all. Before jelly bean, I just flashed a loaded aokp and ran it for months and months. No need to upgrade. Currently JB roms need to be merged but once they are finished just flash one and go live life using the extra functions. If you are looking for a hobby then yes flash each week.
And as mentioned, most of the time you can just flash the rom update just like an OTA and you don't lose anything. Its just like an official ota update.
I'm really enjoying cm10 on my nexus, and have for months. I feel very little compulsion to upgrade to a 4.2.1 rom, but at the same time...I'm and android user! Flashing roms is what we do!
Are there any features that I'm really missing out on in 4.2.1 that you have grown to love?
Most of the 4.2 apps like camera which has photosphere can be installed on 4.1 so things like that, you dont need to update for. The few things you would get from updating are the lock screen widgets and quick settings. Thats all I can think of off the top of my head. Maybe some performance increases and other stuff under the hood. I'm on CM 10.1 and loving it though.
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Most of the 4.2 apps like camera which has photosphere can be installed on 4.1 so things like that, you dont need to update for. The few things you would get from updating are the lock screen widgets and quick settings. Thats all I can think of off the top of my head. Maybe some performance increases and other stuff under the hood. I'm on CM 10.1 and loving it though.
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Oh yeah, should have clarified that I'm already running the 4.2 app transformation pack, so I'm using the 4.2 apps. Otherwise that would be a great reason to upgrade.
Pretty much just the pulldown toggles. While I do run pmg and some mods I enjoy stock and the pulldown means that 4.2 is the first time I've been able to run basic stock and not feel like I was missing something.
The keyboard is my favorite feature, but that can be installed w/o the update. The quick settings are okay, but meh. CM's G+ page says 10.1 "M Series" is coming soon.
No real to die for features IMO. I am on 10.1 only for Faux kernel tbh... if he still supported 10 I'd have stuck with it.
Everything you get in 10.1 is there in CM10 with the exception of the poorly implemented lock screen widgets that I've disabled anyway.
Nope. Nothing killer. But it's new, and thus we flash it.
Not really features but I get much better battery life and for the most part 4.1.2 ROMs and kernels are no longer being updated
No to die for features. And 4.2 is a lot less stable right now than 4.1 with all the SoDs and stuff. I say stick with the transformation pack and wait for another update from Google
Hey guys Ive been thinking lately of trying the new ota but I have a few questions/concerns.
Im on bugless beast 4.1.2 and couldn't be happier. Never an f/c, no stuttering, perfect stable setup. Will I find the same on a stock-like 4.2.2 rom? I tried some 4.2.1 roms but always walked away disastified (jittery crt animation, buggy, laggy). Any bugs on 4.2.2? Hows the speed over 4.1.2? I dont really care about the new toggles and lockscreen but if the speed is better and is stable id be interested.
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No major changes. Believe me. Just update to be up to date. No other visible reasons.
All new versions run slower than previous. Custom kernels - we all know are just a placebo. Except kernel configuration possibility (for instance to slow down the phone to save the battery (which I doubt makes any sense) or turn on the fast charge).
So your phone won't be faster and your battery won't run longer.
If you want a decent standby and screen time (the default is - 12-16h and 2h screen time MAX!):
1. Disable Wifi
2. Disable Data
3. Switch to 2G
Everything else - waste of time
So 4.2.2 is slower than 4.1.2?
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So 4.2.2 is slower than 4.1.2?
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I've heard people say that it's smoother on their devices, but... the most reliable way to know would be to backup and flash it yourself. It seems that everyone's device is different, and everyone's choice of running apps is different as well. So only you would likely know if it is faster for you or not.
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Hey guys Ive been thinking lately of trying the new ota but I have a few questions/concerns.
Im on bugless beast 4.1.2 and couldn't be happier. Never an f/c, no stuttering, perfect stable setup. Will I find the same on a stock-like 4.2.2 rom? I tried some 4.2.1 roms but always walked away disastified (jittery crt animation, buggy, laggy). Any bugs on 4.2.2? Hows the speed over 4.1.2? I dont really care about the new toggles and lockscreen but if the speed is better and is stable id be interested.
Thanks!
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I was on 4.1.2 since December because 4.2.1 was junk.
4.2.2 runs great, they polished the quirks out and I don't feel the need to switch back. Google stock image, stock kernel.
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I was on 4.1.2 since December because 4.2.1 was junk.
4.2.2 runs great, they polished the quirks out and I don't feel the need to switch back. Google stock image, stock kernel.
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Ah thats what I wanna hear
I have been running CM7 for a while and I am fairly happy with it. I seem to like the basic function over what I have see on other people's phones with either ICS or JB. So I want to ask what advantages or better functions would make me want to upgrade? Maybe better device support? I do notice that my wifi drops off a lot but I also have friend's with the SIII stock and they have the same issue.
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I have been running CM7 for a while and I am fairly happy with it. I seem to like the basic function over what I have see on other people's phones with either ICS or JB. So I want to ask what advantages or better functions would make me want to upgrade? Maybe better device support? I do notice that my wifi drops off a lot but I also have friend's with the SIII stock and they have the same issue.
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ICS
>BETTER APP SUPPORT
>Face unlock
>Easier Folder management
>Better widget/app drawer
>Pinch-to-zoom functionality in the calendar
>Integrated screenshot capture
>Better voice integration and continuous, real-time speech to text dictation
>Better Contacts app
>Chrome syncing
>Built-in photo editor
>ANDROID BEAM!
>others....plus these are stock features. A custom rom will further improve things.
JB
>EVEN BETTER APP SUPPORT!!!
>BUTTERY SMOOTHNESS
>GOOGLE Now
>Expandable notifications
>Photosphere
>Gesture keyboard
>Lock screen widgets
These are just the main bullet points IMO there is no reason to stick with an old outdated OS. I used CM7 until ICS came out officially for our device. CM7 is based off GB which first came out in 2010! If you're wary of custom roms at least update officially and enjoy the most of android.
If your into flashing roms there are many stable ones running Google Now on ICS 4.0.4 if you are just looking for updated google apps. JB isn't officially out for out phones yet so the devs have done a good job of porting roms so we can use JB if you want to. I would check the threads on JB roms and decide which is best for you.
Thanks for help
Thanks for the insight. I am still on the fence but it is not like I can't revert after playing a bit, isn't that was a nand backup is for?
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Thanks for the insight. I am still on the fence but it is not like I can't revert after playing a bit, isn't that was a nand backup is for?
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yeah. just make a backup and play around. If you are on cm7 i recommend upgrading to cm10.1, it only gets better.
I really want to stick with a 4.3 ROM, but my kids use my phone quite a bit and some games never start and sit at a black screen.
Do you all think the games are not compatible with 4.3 or some other issue?
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I really want to stick with a 4.3 ROM, but my kids use my phone quite a bit and some games never start and sit at a black screen.
Do you all think the games are not compatible with 4.3 or some other issue?
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I've been having the exact same problem with 4.3 roms. In fact I've had that problem with all aosp roms now. I gave up on them because they just aren't as stable as tw roms. But hey, there's a new thread in the development section with a "STOCK" Touchwiz 4.3 rom, with options of root or no root. In case you do it but don't want to lose all the data with your apps, may I suggest an app called easebackup in the playstore, much simpler than titanium backup and much faster.