STOCK ROM vs custom rom? - HTC One X

how is the STOCK ICS ROM bettery in benchmarks then custom roms that have " tweaks" for perf and other things?
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Stock rom Quadrant 5900 vs Custom rom(latest RUU) 4400 -5300 and not being constant in quadrant?

Look mate ...when you get a custom Rom and stock Rom .....ALWAYS ,ALWAYS ...the custom one will be better ...if not it wouldn't have been created

yeah, I believe you..i just asked why the benchmarks are lower on custom ROM?
android revolution 4300-4500 ICS.....stock 5900 always ..

They are tweakable!
BENCHMARKS ARE HIGHLY DECEPTIVE.ROMS can be easily tweaked to get higher Benchmarks .

maybe they are but the benchmarks from STOCK ROM aren't " deceptive "
also games work a little bit better than on Android Revolution for example when the game kinda sometimes has " LOW FPS(and blocks for miliseconds) in ShadowGUN THD..
also in movies (HD/FULL HD) the same story..
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or for example in VENOM ROM that is very nice..but eats battery ...the benchmark are OK sometimes but sometimes are not
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so I 've made 6000 max but in the second test i've made 4300 and thrist 5000...so the test are ---------going with the same value..and this is wierd !

nemer12 said:
maybe they are but the benchmarks from STOCK ROM aren't " deceptive "
also games work a little bit better than on Android Revolution for example when the game kinda sometimes has " LOW FPS(and blocks for miliseconds) in ShadowGUN THD..
also in movies (HD/FULL HD) the same story..
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or for example in VENOM ROM that is very nice..but eats battery ...the benchmark are OK sometimes but sometimes are not
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so I 've made 6000 max but in the second test i've made 4300 and thrist 5000...so the test are ---------going with the same value..and this is wierd !
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I never go by benchmarks mate, its is always how the rom feels in the phone in the palm of your hand that matters, i.e general smoothness and speed and reliability are what counts

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[Q] Benchmark low - how to push the benchmark higher?

Hello!
So, I have a DHD with the Revolution HD ROM (2.0.8) and the Buzz Sense kernel. I have locked the CPU to min/max 1516MHz Perf. scaling and, upon running the AnTutu System Review 1.2("System Benchmark" under Market) I get a score of 1879.
Yet in the Rankings I see that the #2 device is a DHD with 2.2 @1516MHz with a whopping score of 2774!!!!!
So, how could I reach those heights? The only thing I can think of is the slow SD card that came with the mobile (read/write scores: 34/117), but other than that what could be holding me back?
Cheers
T
I have reached pretty high scores while testing, but then the overall rom smoothness has pretty much sucked. It is normal that synthetic benchmarks give lower results when you use a custom rom, the optimizations that ensure general smoothness and usability cause it. One big reason is CPU scheduling, in custom rom (custom kernel) cpu time is divided for each task in a different way, thus reducing the overall benchmark score.
jkoljo said:
I have reached pretty high scores while testing, but then the overall rom smoothness has pretty much sucked. It is normal that synthetic benchmarks give lower results when you use a custom rom, the optimizations that ensure general smoothness and usability cause it. One big reason is CPU scheduling, in custom rom (custom kernel) cpu time is divided for each task in a different way, thus reducing the overall benchmark score.
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Aha... but then this means that this or the other ROM do not let a specific app (say, a heavy 3D game) take the phone to its full potential...
Incorrect, it is just the synthetic benchmark that suffers. Games will run fine, faster than stock.
Jkoljo's right.The overall system speed is much better,performance is better,but it sucks a little in benchmarks.If you are so desperate to see high benchmark scores(I was once too! )try kamma's 1.4 kernel.Quadrant 3200.Need I say more?
tolis626 said:
Jkoljo's right.The overall system speed is much better,performance is better,but it sucks a little in benchmarks.If you are so desperate to see high benchmark scores(I was once too! )try kamma's 1.4 kernel.Quadrant 3200.Need I say more?
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Really? 3200? Wow. Just out of curiosity, what scores are you getting with other kernels?
Well, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter - I haven't seen an app or game that runs slow or choppy or whatever. It's just for the heck of it
krakout said:
Really? 3200? Wow. Just out of curiosity, what scores are you getting with other kernels?
Well, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter - I haven't seen an app or game that runs slow or choppy or whatever. It's just for the heck of it
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Oh yeah,I know what tou mean!
Anyway,with Lee's and Apache's kernels I get about 2500-2600 in Quadrant.CPU clocked all the way up to 1.5 GHz of course!

Low benchmark score after root/custom rom and kernel

Hi!
First of all, I have been reading around and I did not find exactly what I want to know.
Yesterday I managed to root my desire and flash the CM7 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957344). Today I've added a custom kernel, "vork" 720p (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782875&highlight=vork).
My quadrant score is still low (around 1100), even though the phone behaves much better than the stock.
I have 2 questions:
1. What can I do to make it perform even better? (i have a friend with a desire hd who just flashed a sense rom, without any added stuff and scores over 2200).
2. should i install a new "radio"? My gsm signal is much stronger than before as it is.
3. Since this is my first time, what do you think of my choices with the ROM and Kernel? I chose them because they were popular and i assumed they are well tested and function well.
Thank you for your time.
Desire HD has better processor and GPU I believe hence bigger difference. Your score is good for Desire. I got around that overclocked on LeeDroid GB ROM.
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why do you even care bout the quadrant score ? :X
if you really feel excited bout high numbers having nothing to do with ur phone performance, go with data2ext roms, quadrant gives them 3000+ points, but still they perform worse than, for example, LeeDroid.
then again, new GingerBread Sense 2.1 roms have low quadrant scores, but they are really really fast.
I dont really care about quadrant, but it seems like a valid tool for measuring performance. At least it seems that everyone is judging by that. Quite frankly the phone works very well, i am just out of ideas to make it even better. And if the scores are meaningless why do people use it?
Its probably one of those my d...ck is bigger than yours things. Anyway I used data to SD and I also had high scores but overall experience was very laggy and jerky
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Quadrant scores are mesaurable only when you launch them on stock, unrooted roms. then it can give you and idea on how this phone with this software will perform.
after rooting, some hacks or scripts make quadrant scores not real
So this means my phone is fine as it is? There is nothing more I can do to enhance it?
you can overclock it, it should all be said in your ROMs topic.
like "OC up to 1200Mhz" means you should be able to set processor speed to 1200mhz with SetCpu. it all depends on kernel i think
Ok, thanks everyone for your input! If there are any more suggestions, I dont mind.

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this is basically a review on custom roms that ive tried...
my purpose of doing so is one to guide newbiez on sgy like myself
to give a background i was on galaxy 551 before switching to the sgy was running on custom roms myself i am no developer just an end user
currently i am running on stock rom with a couple build prop tweaks , audio tweaks, and customized layouts...following hhubs...
currently my device scores around 16xx on antutu benchmark and around the aame figure on quadrant....
yesterday i tried the hybrid 2.0
ive had high expectations on such custom roms specially the most talked about....and recommended roms...
now...ive installed hybrid which was a light and yeah fast rom....
well i couldnt feel the difference from my stock rom...
so i decided to run a benchmark test antutu and quadrant......
gave me the same score as my stock
16xx
but the thing was the rom was fast and lite almoat the same as my stock rom edited.....
if you have a different review please do post so that others can get a fair.review....
will try to review termas rom next week.....
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termas review will be postponed...pc went down..cant flash his kernel...
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adding aurora v2
pretty decent everyday rom
antutu gave a 1704 on performance governor...
i like the retro look..
would be giving it a rate of 9/10
for acouple of graphic glitches that are and will be fixed soon acocrduing to dev..
will write more later..
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forgot to post working and bugs
everything was ok..except for the message about my balance...
the rom was overall a good rom with a sense ui feel.....
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if you think that quadrant will show you your phone's actual performance then you re wrong.If you want hi scores on quadrant try searching for quadrant hack
I cant understand some mobile phone owners like you.
What do you expect from your phone?Magical abilities or something?
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ronnieryan said:
now im confused
Hybrid 2.0 doesnt have sense ui feel
Hybrid 2.1 has the sense ui feel
and then again my antutu score with hybrid 2.0 would be 18xx to max 19xx
pls verify what hybrid did you use 2.0 or 2.1?
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My apologies 2.1 for the sense ui..2.0 was running on touchwiz
Hmmm...good score for you mate
Mine was disappointing really
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ronnieryan said:
now im confused
Hybrid 2.0 doesnt have sense ui feel
Hybrid 2.1 has the sense ui feel
and then again my antutu score with hybrid 2.0 would be 18xx to max 19xx
pls verify what hybrid did you use 2.0 or 2.1?
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The sense UI is not that good! I have tried it on my sgy and i accept that it was fast but I removed it because of its buggy interface especially when the name of the app cuts in the dockbar.
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[email protected] said:
if you think that quadrant will show you your phone's actual performance then you re wrong.If you want hi scores on quadrant try searching for quadrant hackI cant understand some mobile phone owners like you.
What do you expect from your phone?Magical abilities or something?
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i didnt say that i was basing my opinion on quadrant scoring...
i just mentioned it...
for reference i guess not really for anything..
for me i was expecting a lil bit better...
from a custom rom...
not just better aesthetics..
this is not my first phone and certainly not my first rom..
thou it might be true that performance cannot be measured by benchmarking...
but how do you measure or know if something is better that the other without benchmarking...
benchmarking is there for a reason,,,,
as for experience my galaxy 551,stock rom..almost the same edits that i have now,,except with a lower cpu of 600mhz..
scores right about 14xx
and with a custom rom from arkas right about 17xx
with a custom from perseus,,right about 18xx-2xx depending on setting made..
stock is good but a bit slow
roms from arkas are fast..
from perseus,,,hellluva fast..but battery...dead in 1-2 hour,...oc to 729..
why am i saying this,,,
custiom roms to my view should atleast give something that isnt offered in stock..
like a2sd from terma...
as far as cheating the benchmark..
why would you conduct a cheated benchmark in the first place,...like playing a good game but using a cheat...useless..
taking the exams and cheating...
Definition of BENCHMARK
1usually bench mark : a mark on a permanent object indicating elevation and serving as a reference in topographic surveys and tidal observations
2a : a point of reference from which measurements may be made b : something that serves as a standard by which others may be measured or judged c : a standardized problem or test that serves as a basis for evaluation or comparison (as of computer system performance)
See benchmark defined for English-language learners »
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Examples of BENCHMARK
a stock whose performance is a benchmark against which other stocks can be measured
<this prize-winning biography will be the benchmark against which all others will be judged in future years>
First Known Use of BENCHMARK
circa 1842
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btw..it would be cool if the phone transforms
guys i believe that ok maybe benchmarks are not perfect but they can show if a rom is faster than another.if your benchmark shows higher score that mean that something goes faster.but for better resaults you must repeat the benchmark for 4-5 times and from all scores get those that are more "stable" and most repeated.for example:if you run 5 times quadrant and get these results:
1050
1097
1129
1125
1130
take your score as around 1127.most times the first test shows lower result.
as for our custom roms i agree with OP but as long as we cant have a custom kernel,this is almost the best we can do.we can do much much more things and more ads and more tweaks and generally more speed for our roms if we had a custom kernel.but i think that all guys deserve our respect and thanks just only for the time their spend trying to do something better for our phone(this better could be faster phone or more fuctional phone or just more beautiful phone.whatever anyone can do).so i respect the opinion of OP whatever parameters he use.he flashed the roms,so he use them,so he can say his experiences!

best gaming rom?? there is one??

i buget my new htc one x plus
and HE SUCKSSS
my score on quadrant is 7100
my friends with htc one x (not plus) got 7000 7068 and 6900 on 4.1
on 4.1.1
alot of lags and not smooth .... thd games like dead trigger lag and not smooth eaven not the small games and not the heavy one... (the lags are not big but very noticble)
nothing runes on the backround and im using updated gaming booster up.. nothing helps...
i didnt wanted to root and rom but like it looks right now i most do it.. if i want some proforments
so there is some recomended rom for good gameing expirens somthing that wont drain my battry plz!
tnx
There is no rom on the planet that will let you game and still keep your battery up.However in my opinion you should try renovate rom .It has awesome theming,is fast,and you can play most games on it with no noticeable lag

how to get better performance in htc one x ?

hi guys , since i got my HTC one x , i always looking for a way to increase my phone performance , as you know the HOX has a less performance as it should have . but in net or somewhere else i see some peoples gets so better performance than my device . in example if you download antutu benchmark x edition that says this version is for stoping cheats , there is some peoples that gets 28000 , 19000 and ... score in antutu but on my device i can't get more than 10800 , how it is possible which rom they use for getting this amazing performance ? i tried so many Roms and even i worked hard on Overclocking using deferent Governers and ... but i just got a bit more performance and it was not so much .
so do you think all this peoples cheats or there is any way for it ? HOX always lags on games , like asphalt 8 , it's not too lagy but still lags and i just searching for a rom or a kernel that gives me better performance as the others get . so can anybody help me how to do it ? which rom is faster , i mean not just in Benchmarks like CM roms , i need really better FPS on games . is there any way ?
Arona67 said:
hi guys , since i got my HTC one x , i always looking for a way to increase my phone performance , as you know the HOX has a less performance as it should have . but in net or somewhere else i see some peoples gets so better performance than my device . in example if you download antutu benchmark x edition that says this version is for stoping cheats , there is some peoples that gets 28000 , 19000 and ... score in antutu but on my device i can't get more than 10800 , how it is possible which rom they use for getting this amazing performance ? i tried so many Roms and even i worked hard on Overclocking using deferent Governers and ... but i just got a bit more performance and it was not so much .
so do you think all this peoples cheats or there is any way for it ? HOX always lags on games , like asphalt 8 , it's not too lagy but still lags and i just searching for a rom or a kernel that gives me better performance as the others get . so can anybody help me how to do it ? which rom is faster , i mean not just in Benchmarks like CM roms , i need really better FPS on games . is there any way ?
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No they are not cheat just they use custom kernel with OC on the GPU and boost the max freq to 1,5GHz on all cores. The OC is not only change governor have lot more things
Thant said:
No they are not cheat just they use custom kernel with OC on the GPU and boost the max freq to 1,5GHz on all cores. The OC is not only change governor have lot more things
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yaa i know the OC is not just changing kernels , but i mean it's some how impossible to reach 24000 points . htc one max with 1.7 krait and 2 gig ram get this point . the most point that i got ever was with sky dragon rom + lonelyx kernel that is really fantastic , but the score is 17374 . i put the max mhz on graphic cheap , turned oon all Cpu cores value to 1.5Ghz and .... but how they got 24000 points ? i think i just set everything to the maximum that is possible , because increasing the overclock value on graphic chip or cpu cores makes phone really unstable and you will not even finish the test process and your phone will be shut down .
i just want to know if is there anyway that i can get better performance , i'm now really happy with new Lonelyx kernel , but i'm wonder it's really possible to make it even better ?!!!
As Thant told you..Play with your kernel,try other kernels..OC gpu and cpu..But with that you must be very careful
And maybe HOX simply can't reach that number of points ^^

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