Okay, I'm having a dilemma. I don't know whether to switch to T-mobile and have access to all the good unlocked phones with tons of development or stay with Verizon and deal with their ****ty tactics on trying to stop people from modifying their own devices.
People who are on T-mobile, how are HSPA+ signals and call quality? How often do calls drop? I currently attend the University of North Dakota and I'm afraid that if I switch to T-mobile, I will get terrible reception and data signals here. Can you guys inform me if there's any good T-mobile signals in the Eastern North Dakota area?
On the other hand, Verizon's signals are fantastic. I get full 4G in my area and call quality is terrific. But as well know, Verizon likes to lock down devices and put logos on home buttons to piss the modding community off.
What do you think? I would like some input on this because I have to make a big decision - whether to stay on Verizon and have my parents pay for my current line or switch to T-mobile and pay everything myself.
Thanks!
Wow. Free sounds better to me.
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Wow. Free sounds better to me.
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Errr, I mean yeah it does but my parents want me out of it and pay for my own bill soon lol
Anyway, that family share plan is annoying and it keeps me from wanting to do some heavy tethering. I only get 8 GB of data a month and I share it with 5 other people so data gets built up pretty quick.
Of course free is always better. But if your parents are looking to kick you off I would go with t mobile. Verizon is way too damn expensive. I live in Orlando Florida and my speeds range from 10mb to 25mb. Upload speed stays constant at around 2mb.
I don't really have dropped calls. As long as I have bars which is 99% off the time my call quality is good, unless the other person has ****ty service then no matter how good of service you have the quality will be lower.
So if your on a budget and want more go with t mobile. But if you got money to blow then stay with Verizon.
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T-Mobile has better phones. Example:
galaxy s3
galaxy note 2
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T-Mobile is holding it down
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Been with T-mobile since Voicestream days, 12 years now. I'm not going no where, I love the freedom where I can buy any GSM phone available in the market, plus the plans too are cheaper. I love my Magenta
Unless you don't have signal cuz their WiFi calling is f**king worthless. I've been trying to send a text for 2 hours. Even Verizon can at least get a text through at my house.
You are going to have to do your due diligence and research coverage in your area. In the areas that T-Mobile has coverage (mostly urban/suburban areas) they are well worth the effort (great prices, great phones, no locked bootloaders) to find out if they have coverage.
If not Verizon unfortunately, may be the better choice because they have coverage in more areas.
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You are going to have to do your due diligence and research coverage in your area. In the areas that T-Mobile has coverage (mostly urban/suburban areas) they are well worth the effort (great prices, great phones, no locked bootloaders) to find out if they have coverage.
If not Verizon unfortunately, may be the better choice because they have coverage in more areas.
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^ Most helpful answer.
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T-Mobile has better phones. Example:
galaxy s3
galaxy note 2
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In all fairness these phones are on Verizon as well.
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I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile (with a stop at Sprint in-between), and I don't notice any difference in terms of calls.
I use WIFI calling at home since it's my only option - Verizon was the only tower that gave even 1/2 bar in my house (the reason I initially chose Sprint). However, my personal experience with WIFI calling has been great - I even have used it over my school's WIFI (a bit of an accident) and the call quality is always remarkably clear - enough so that I notice it.
The city that I work and go to college in is covered in 4G towers - I have never had a situation other than at home where I was without coverage (and, to be fair, my house is down in a small valley with thick tree coverage on the lot). If I were you, I'd take a look at their coverage maps to get an idea for what's it's like where you are.
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I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile (with a stop at Sprint in-between), and I don't notice any difference in terms of calls.
I use WIFI calling at home since it's my only option - Verizon was the only tower that gave even 1/2 bar in my house (the reason I initially chose Sprint). However, my personal experience with WIFI calling has been great - I even have used it over my school's WIFI (a bit of an accident) and the call quality is always remarkably clear - enough so that I notice it.
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How???? I just got the red WiFi calling error and it's been dropping all day and night for the last week. It goes blue and as soon as I send a text it drops service.
The support thread on tmo has over 31,000 views...
I've had trouble with it when the WIFI signal is 2 bars or less on the indicator (like if I am in the garage), but otherwise haven't had an issue - I've even made quite long calls from it - it's been on and blue (sent + received some texts) since I got home about six hours ago.
My only observation is that it needs a rather strong connection, though I don't know if this could be part of the source of issues others might be having.
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How???? I just got the red WiFi calling error and it's been dropping all day and night for the last week. It goes blue and as soon as I send a text it drops service.
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Did you set your address up in your T-Mo account? If you call 911 for example through Wi-Fi calling, they want an address on file or some crap like that. I had to do that back when I was on TouchWiz. (gave me the red thing)
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How???? I just got the red WiFi calling error and it's been dropping all day and night for the last week. It goes blue and as soon as I send a text it drops service.
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I haven't had an issue as well. It might be your router. If I go outside to the back yard I will get an occasional drop because the router is in the other end of the house but all is great here with blue all day long.
OP I moved from Verizon to T mobile a while back. I'm in LA so coverage doesn't effect me as much. Never looked back.
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T-Mobile fits my needs, I live in suburban Atlanta, and I get really good data speeds. Have had NO issues with call drops. Customer support has been pretty good to me. My only issue is when I go some where rural. In those situations I get 2g or no bars. In my opinion, I'm satisfied with T-Mobile. I'm on a shared line with my brother and we pay 130 together for 1000 minute, unlimited text and unlimited data.
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I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile 2 years ago and im loving it, much cheaper and the signal and data is just as good as verizon minus LTE is a tad faster but T-Mobile is selling a couple thousand towers and getting 4G LTE ones in 2013
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Damn. Just did research on data/signal coverage in the Grand Forks, ND area and sadly Tmobile has no coverage. All the other 3 carriers do. What a bummer. Guess I have to stick with VZW
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Yea T Mobile is not a widespread carrier compared to Verizon but if t mobile supports your area then its great
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I'm on ATT with an SGSII right now and get ****ty data performance. Voice isn't that much better. I get like 1 - 2 Mbit download speeds, and the phone is capable of something like 18Mbit. I'm thinking about making the move to Sprint. Anything I should know? Anyone using an Epic 4G Touch in the SF Bay Area?
As far as data goes, you'll most likely not get those speeds on Sprint (as far as 1-2 Mbit) but just like anything YMMV (a lot here complain about their data speeds and they don't even get close to those speeds).
But to my knowledge, the AT&T version gets way more support in development due to it being GSM like the international SGS2, so ports are easier and what not. So if you like rooting you'll probably miss that.
If data speeds are your primary reason, then do not switch. There's a very good chance that your speeds would be even worse with Sprint. They're working on it, but their data network sucks right now.
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If data speeds are your primary reason, then do not switch. There's a very good chance that your speeds would be even worse with Sprint. They're working on it, but their data network sucks right now.
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relative to where you are, i great great 3g and 4g speeds.
just like any other cell phone provider.
To the OP. I would say go buy one and test it out first in the places you go daily. I have no issues at all where I am with call quality or data speeds. Also the simply everything plan cant be beat.
However, as stated, the ATT version gets, MUCH more dev support because its GSM, and it will likely get updates first.
BUT, it is great to have the extra .2 of in inch on the screen and also to have an LED for notifications
On sprint, you will get 1-2 Mbit MAX download speeds. In almost every case, less than that.
If you have wimax in your area, then you could get anywhere from 5-15 Mbit (it varies greatly, and depends on signal strength). Most of the time when you're indoors you won't get great 4g signal strength.
If you consistently use more than 2gb of data per month, then sprint is a decent option, or verizon if they are still doing double data deals.
Last I heard sprint recently improved in SF bay area, so you may have good results.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sp...coverage-in-san-francisco-bay-area-2011-12-08
Sprint is also cheaper than AT&T, and many employers offer discounts for sprint.
If speed is your concern in good 4g areas all my tmobile friends get 15mb /2mb on thier sgs2
I have the sprint one i usually get 300kb-800kb/500kb in the day time
at night(2am-6am) 1000-13000/ 800-1000kb
I'm about to switch because of the throttling that att is about to start doing. Grandfathered into unlimited, but they don't like us using more than 5gb.
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As a 13 year Sprint customer, I have to say that I've never been more disappointed with their service. My 3G speeds have been terrible, and inconsistent on top of it (from bad to worse). I cannot in good conscience recommend that anyone switch to Sprint at the moment.
Hopefully they'll fix whatever's been broken for the last 60 days or so (and it could just be the iPhone effect), and I'll be able to once again recommend Sprint. At the moment, not so much...
I miss att i got the epic 4g touch and wish i was still on att. I would trade you if you switch i had good att speeds in union city ca 94587.
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I would not switch for data speeds. This is what I get right next to a tower at work. Granted I get maybe 250kbs at home, but I never get more than 40kbs while at work, sometimes like 10-15kbs. And its a heavily populated area. they are doing upgrades, or so they say.
Here's an overview of my last speed runs, not impressive...
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Yeah, for your own sake, do not switch just for the data speeds, not worth it, anything else Sprint is good.
Depends on where you are. I'm in Charlotte NC and Sprints data sucks ass. In the Northeast from Baltimore to New York is crazy fast especially in D.C. I been up there and sad to come back to slow molasses ass data. Thank god for wifi. Try the Epic Touch for two weeks and then decide.
4g from my house.
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I advise going to the Sprint store where you live and testing data speeds on the floor phones.
Then, if it's satisfactory, you always have 14 days if things change depending on other areas to travel frequently.
It really isn't helpful to you if someone that's on the other side of the country is telling you about their data speeds.
All carriers, even Verizon, vary based upon area.
As far as with the Epic Touch, make sure it's up to date so you don't have any LOS issue and you'll love the phone.
You really have to get one and try from home,work,etc and remember you only have 14 days to return. Here are some average marks for me...middle of the pack tests. 4g on different server about 150 miles away. That's why I have high ping...
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Lmao. Visit the sprint section before you think of it. May as well go to Verizon because you won't be happy with sprint data speeds at all. Ps winmax kills your battery something fierce
Around here Sprint has been sucking, but, I've tried Verizon recently...Sprint is actually extremely competitive with Verizon (3g) data speeds around here these days. I thought Sprint sucked around here, it ends up the grass is, in fact ,always green on the other side....in fact, it is actually as green and often greener on the Sprint side.
Is my point to OP that Sprint is good for his purposes? Lol. No, far from it. In fact quite the opposite. I could switch to AT*T for cheaper than my Sprint line (for tiered data, guh) but much much better data rates, or Verizon for better coverage and only slightly more expensive...but...I haven't. Why? When the meat hits the metal I've got something that is already great for me (acceptable speeds, relatively speaking) and have something I would hate to lose (unlimited data).
I think from the sound of OP that he has something that is great for him (can live with his tiered or throttled data) and has something he would hate to lose (2-4+mbps data rates).
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I advise going to the Sprint store where you live and testing data speeds on the floor phones.
Then, if it's satisfactory, you always have 14 days if things change depending on other areas to travel frequently.
It really isn't helpful to you if someone that's on the other side of the country is telling you about their data speeds.
All carriers, even Verizon, vary based upon area.
As far as with the Epic Touch, make sure it's up to date so you don't have any LOS issue and you'll love the phone.
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There's Matty giving the best answer again.. Nothings changed.
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Lmao. Visit the sprint section before you think of it. May as well go to Verizon because you won't be happy with sprint data speeds at all. Ps winmax kills your battery something fierce
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wimax isn't too bad like it was on last years wimax devices. It sleeps frequently and battery lasts pretty long under moderate usage. Its probably better on battery than Verizon's LTE phones
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Has anyone else noticed just how much slower sprint is lately? I mean, we all knew that they've began having major issues last year, but now, seems worse. I literally can't get above .15mbps on any of my three phones. That's in most of the Denver/Aurora area. Before it was slow, now it is just not usable.
The only excuse Sprint ever has is the network vision, but really? I'm pretty fed up with this dial up.
I'll atop ranting now, am still under contract with them .
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Same thing with me in metro Detroit
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Damn, I know in Atlanta it is rather bad as well.
Just hard to remain optimistic, specially knowing that the unlimited model, while nice, isn't going to help with speed. Just too many people can abuse the already suffering network. While limits suck, they really force people to watch their data use, or pay for higher usage.
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I live near la and they've been doing their network update here. I've been getting speeds around 1500 kbps but for the last couple weeks I'm only averaging at 300 kbps now
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I live near la and they've been doing their network update here. I've been getting speeds around 1500 kbps but for the last couple weeks I'm only averaging at 300 kbps now
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Even at 1500, still pretty crappy when compared to ATT and TMO network speeds over hspa.
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It's like that in Jacksonville, FL too. Speeds have went down by nearly half.
To be honest I feel like there more consirend about virgin mobile and boost mobile than us ...since the fact people now a days don't want a contract and sprint keeps giving them phones that are similar to ours hence LG marquee and soon to be HTC evo design ...not to mention there both gonna have wimax ...aint that a slap in the face
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To be honest I feel like there more consirend about virgin mobile and boost mobile than us ...since the fact people now a days don't want a contract and sprint keeps giving them phones that are similar to ours hence LG marquee and soon to be HTC evo design ...not to mention there both gonna have wimax ...aint that a slap in the face
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I checked out tmobile prepaid, and prepaid just makes more sense seems like. Yea, you pay full retail price if you want a nice phone, but you don't need to pay any hidden upgrade fees, or weird surcharges sprint has, nor is it as expensive. And I can't speak for everyone, but I honestly don't see network vision doing anything but allowing sprint catch up to the point where most others are already at, except for years later. And if they keep this unlimited model going, I only see the network continuing on suffering. Sure, Lte would be nice and the fact that all new high end sprint phones are lte capable. Unless you're in major 6 markets though, yore stuck on crawling 3g till at least 2014, that's when they plan to roll out lte here in Colorado, not to mention it will only be the initial roll out, only among major highways, even spottier than wimax.
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The thing I've noticed about CD a devices is that they don't drop calls nearly as often as GSM models do. I've noticed this with several devices amongst my family. I'm not saying cdma is immune to it, just that they tend to transfer from tower to tower better.
With that in mind, I'd probably go to Verizon if I switched... but I can't stand the amount of things they will charge you for. They charge to block numbers, GPS, etc. T-Mobile sounds ideal as far as pricing goes but if GSM drops calls often then I'm not too sure.
A few months ago i was on cricket with the og epic, i was tired of they crappy service so i was looking to switch. Sprint grabbed me with their truly unlimited data. Guess i should of researched speeds as well =/ but i have hopes for sprint, im stuck with them for 2 years and network vision should (hopefully) hit buffalo ny by then. if i dont get a significant increase in data quality i will most defiantly go with verizon. They may be a bit more expensive but hey, the phrase "you get what you pay for" may apply here
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The thing I've noticed about CD a devices is that they don't drop calls nearly as often as GSM models do. I've noticed this with several devices amongst my family. I'm not saying cdma is immune to it, just that they tend to transfer from tower to tower better.
With that in mind, I'd probably go to Verizon if I switched... but I can't stand the amount of things they will charge you for. They charge to block numbers, GPS, etc. T-Mobile sounds ideal as far as pricing goes but if GSM drops calls often then I'm not too sure.
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Really?! I prefer GSM over CDMA any day. Unless, we are talking about CDMA-Advanced. My reasoning is the whole data speed aspect. With GSM, your 3G speeds are much better due to HSPA and HSPA+ technology. On Sprint, have you ever seen speeds over 2.5mbps in an excellent coverage area with no network load? The max CDMA network that Sprint has can go is 3.2, which is theoretical. TMobile HSPA+21 network can reach 10-12mbps without many issues. HSPA+42, 19-25 in my area during off hours. Verizon CDMA, while much more consistent, isn't much faster than Sprint.
I understand your argument with dropped calls, but I actually have found the opposite to be true. I have less dropped calls while on the go on my T-Mo company phone (GNexus), vs any of the Sprint devices I have. And that is among same area. I am guessing our experiences differ due to coverage in respectable states.
Sprint was good here for a week or less when NV was apparently being worked on in my area.. now it is even worse than before! I'm not sure what they did to the nearest towers but everyone I know around complains lately that their signal inside their house is worse and not as reliable. I've been considering jumping ships to a different carrier, perhaps the T-Mobile prepaid plan... considering I only use like 40 mins a month and only need dependable fast data on the good. Sprint better hope LTE and NV starts working here in the L.A area
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Same thing with me in metro Detroit
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I used to hit around 1 Meg in the morning. From this speed it drops into nearly single digits throughout the day.
My 3g speeds have gotten cut in half in San Diego this month. I don't even know what its like using the 4G option on this phone which leaves me a little bitter at this point. In fact, listening to others talk about 4G in their areas feels like a series of short stories, wise tales, and mere fables. I'm probably gonna switch to T-mobile once the GS3 drops next month since they are finally getting a decent phone line up. I'm getting tired of the emasculating feeling of begging my girlfriend for data as she hits the WIFI tether Icon of her Verizon unlimited droid all the while knowing that the 4G option in my notification bar is simply a useless battery draining light.
Ans I thought I had it bad lol. The funny thing is that I can take my tmobile phone ans my sprint phone to the sprint store ans tmo would test at least 2x faster vs sprint on wimax, that's with full bars since they have signal boosters at their stores.
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These are the fastest speeds in my area that I've gotten in a couple months. My upload is normally less than .10 Mbps.
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Sprint is becoming a victim of the iPhone own success the way AT&T did when the iPhone first came out. Sprint went from being 4th place in the networks to 1st almost overnight due to having unlimited data and high quality phones. Unfortunately they weren't prepared for it network wise.
I keep getting emails about them building/buying/renting new towers here in Los Angeles, but thus far I haven't seen any quality updates.
My recommendation is to call and complain. Most of the time they'll give you an Airrave for free to keep you as a customer.
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Sprint is becoming a victim of the iPhone own success the way AT&T did when the iPhone first came out. Sprint went from being 4th place in the networks to 1st almost overnight due to having unlimited data and high quality phones. Unfortunately they weren't prepared for it network wise.
I keep getting emails about them building/buying/renting new towers here in Los Angeles, but thus far I haven't seen any quality updates.
My recommendation is to call and complain. Most of the time they'll give you an Airrave for free to keep you as a customer.
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I think that sprint lineup is far from being the first.
A lot of people buy in the whole unlimited data thing, that's just how Americans are. Why have limits when you can have unlimited? Those people don't think about speeds, they think that all data is same lol. Sadly, they also usually don't even get close to 2gb, which is the lowest tier cap by competitors.
Yay, I have unlimited. What is it good for when everything takes ages to do? Videos aren't even worth the effort over sprint mobile data. Having a tmo ans a sprint phone side by side, I can buffer a YouTube in 720p on tmo and watch 2 minutes of video before sprint would load same video in sq.
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Sprint speeds have been terrible in Houston TX for some time now. my contract is up in September, if LTE doesn't fix things I will be leaving. Been a sprint customer for 13 years!
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Is anyone having trouble on 3g. Seems much worse than my Evo. Having trouble connecting to Xda, Facebook etc. During in my car in the same place I eat lunch everyday and I barely have 1 to 2 bars.
I am just an old fashioned country doctor Jim.
Please put sprint tittle on the topic
Anyways try to update prl and profile, if that don't work call sprint to help, they probably will reset your data settings, and it might help, what speeds are you getting on it?
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I can say that the 3G 100% better on the S3 than my OG Epic. It is also now 10x faster and 33% lower latency since Sprint either upgraded or fixed the tower(s) covering downtown Denver, CO.
Which is really good since I don't expect to see LTE for another 18-24 months!
Well try that thanks.Will upload some speeds when I get a chance later.
I am just an old fashioned country doctor Jim.
3g has degraded for me. At work I use to get about 1.5mpbs. Now I'm lucky to get .7mbps. I avg about .4mbps. This may have something to do with iphones sharing the same 3g. I really miss wimax as I used to get it almost everywhere I go. I live in the bay area.
Great improvement in my speeds here in NY
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Great improvement in my speeds here in NY
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Funnily enough, slower for me here in Long Island. I'm lucky to pull over 512k down and up here in my office. I was often getting higher then 1mbit but it's sprint so there was always fluctuation.
I never really had any complaints with Sprint speeds on 3G but after playing with this phone on my office wifi for most of today - I wish LTE was around already, this hardware really deserves better speeds.
it depends on what tower I'm connected to. at home (South Philadelphia, pa), it's nice and zippy. at work (Port Richmond, Philadelphia, pa) it's awful, but that seems to be the trend near my job. Verizon was almost as bad, everyone on t-mo and metro have issues, and at&t is terrible, as well. i don't know what the problem is, Sprint even has a dedicated tower only a block from my job.
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3g has degraded for me. At work I use to get about 1.5mpbs. Now I'm lucky to get .7mbps. I avg about .4mbps. This may have something to do with iphones sharing the same 3g. I really miss wimax as I used to get it almost everywhere I go. I live in the bay area.
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I would love to even get .4 lol
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Funnily enough, slower for me here in Long Island. I'm lucky to pull over 512k down and up here in my office. I was often getting higher then 1mbit but it's sprint so there was always fluctuation.
I never really had any complaints with Sprint speeds on 3G but after playing with this phone on my office wifi for most of today - I wish LTE was around already, this hardware really deserves better speeds.
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Yea coming from T-mobile to Sprint, i'm dying for them to roll out the LTE, don't know what I would do without wifi
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I'm actually getting better speeds on my s3 than any other sprint phone EVER. I consistently get over 1mbps where on my iPhone and gs2(on 3g) I would never even get over 600kbps. It makes not having wimax or lte that bad
I am assuming it has to be Sprint because my wife just bought Evo 4G LTE and having the same problem .
I am just an old fashioned country doctor Jim.
As a reader of several forums, it is apparent to me that there is a pattern of such anomalies being reported by some end users of Sprint's LTE-capable phones in some areas. Remember that these new devices right now are connecting to the legacy EVDO and 3G network, which is in the process of being replaced completely on a localized basis in Sprint's Network Vision rollout.
Because these anecdotal reports are sporadic, and seem to affect more than one LTE device design, while most users report no such problems, I suspect that something is going on with the interaction of these devices with the under-construction network locally. Hopefully this is temporary. The phones are supposed to work fine with the legacy network, and with the under-construction changeover, but I suspect there are some issues.
Sprint has not owned up to any such problems. So we just don't know for sure. Personally, if I were one of those affected, I would not accept a two-year contract beyond the 14-day trial without concrete commitments from Sprint to fix this.
3G speeds are faster than ever in my area. (Jax, FL)
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Ascertion said:
3G speeds are faster than ever in my area. (Jax, FL)
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That's actually really good if my speed were like that when I was with sprint I would stay with them but I was getting below. 6mbps and the sucks for youtube
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Poor sprint 3g speeds
Ascertion said:
3G speeds are faster than ever in my area. (Jax, FL)
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I wish I could get 3g speeds like that from Sprint, and that is why I am switching to Verizon.
Below are the screenshots of 3g speedtest.
Sprint on the left, Verizon on the right.
It is highly variable on location.I was driving home in traffic through Staten Island and the speeds varied from 2 mb down to .4 mb down and 1 mb up to a low of .2 up. Tried it at four locations. The worst is by far my home in Jersey, .4 down, .2 up. Thank God for Wi-Fi.
I am just an old fashioned country doctor Jim.
I got an EVO 4G LTE and returned it after 4 days. My wife got one at the same time. The MAX download speed I ever got was like 300k. Averaged about 50k.
My S3 on ATT LTE gets 20mbps.
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As a reader of several forums, it is apparent to me that there is a pattern of such anomalies being reported by some end users of Sprint's LTE-capable phones in some areas. Remember that these new devices right now are connecting to the legacy EVDO and 3G network, which is in the process of being replaced completely on a localized basis in Sprint's Network Vision rollout.
Because these anecdotal reports are sporadic, and seem to affect more than one LTE device design, while most users report no such problems, I suspect that something is going on with the interaction of these devices with the under-construction network locally. Hopefully this is temporary. The phones are supposed to work fine with the legacy network, and with the under-construction changeover, but I suspect there are some issues.
Sprint has not owned up to any such problems. So we just don't know for sure. Personally, if I were one of those affected, I would not accept a two-year contract beyond the 14-day trial without concrete commitments from Sprint to fix this.
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Network vision upgrades are helping to disrupt service. Its all over the net, and in Sprint forums. I was able to attain 1.92 down and 1.1mb up on 3g in certain areas of the Bronx, NY, and Jamaica Queens in the last 30 days!
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redstar427 said:
I wish I could get 3g speeds like that from Sprint, and that is why I am switching to Verizon.
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I beat that speed on 3g with my Sprint GS III in the Bronx, and my Photon in Jamaica queens NYC. To all of the people that switched to Verizon at a time when Network Vision is rearing it's head is a shame. Their lack of investigating the issues will cause them to pay more for the next 2 years while people like me will save lots and have unlimited data.
drbill1967 said:
Is anyone having trouble on 3g. Seems much worse than my Evo. Having trouble connecting to Xda, Facebook etc. During in my car in the same place I eat lunch everyday and I barely have 1 to 2 bars.
I am just an old fashioned country doctor Jim.
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Yep,that's why i just switched to Verizon!!! Tired of sprints Bullsh*t. Now i will have one of the best phones on one of the best 4G networks, and its only $30.00 more per month about $1.15 cent extra per day, Easy decision for me!!! Unlimited talk, text, 4GB of data, and free Mobile Hot spot, $110.00 with insurance for $6.99 with $99.00 deductible $116.00... Sprint insurance is crazy high... Verizon just changed their plans again, Now all plans are called (shared plans) even if you have just one line like me.
Shared Plan(s) Monthly Account Access
Share Everything Unlimited Talk, Text & 4GB $70.00
Item Description Quantity Your Price
Samsung Galaxy S III 32GB in Blue 1 $249.99
Your Plan
Share Everything Unlimited Talk, Text & 4GB
Monthly Line Access $40.00
Plan Features
CALLER ID
BUSY TRANSFER
3-WAY CALLING
CALL DELIVERY
CALL WAITING
NO ANSWER TRANSFER
CALL FORWARDING
RTR/UC TRIGGER ALP $0
EMAIL TRIGGER ALP $0
DATA PROVISION ALP
TXT MSG W PER MSG CHARGES
MOBILE HOT SPOT TRIGGER $0
BASIC VOICE MAIL - $0
TEXT MESSAGING
DYNAMIC-PRIVATE IP
TEC ASURION $6.99
MOBILE HOTSPOT 4G PROVISIONING
RTR FOR ALP
4G APPLICATION ACCESS
4G INTERNET ACCESS
VERIZON APPS $0
EMAIL ACCESS PDA $0
SDM REMOTE QUERY ENABLED
4G PROVISIONING $0
STREAMLINED BILLING - $0
USA ONLY NO ROAM - $0
PICTURE MESSAGE PROVISIONING
OTA SOFTWAREUPDATE-$0.00
ELECTAGREE 2YR AGREEMENT-$0
Additional Items
HOL: SAM I535 SHELL 1 $29.99
DFILLSIM3FF-A $0.00
Shipping Fee $0.00
Order Subtotal Today $ 279.98
Sales Tax* $ 19.60
Shipping $ 0.00
Order Total Today $ 299.58
Total Monthly Charges** $ 116.99
You read the title correctly, tmonews and android central. The question is would you switch to Tmobile for 4G HSPA+ data speeds with no caps or overages. I know im seriously thinking about it. The wait for LTE is killing me.
Hmm no caps or overages but..... What about throttling.....
Never mind looks like it will be un throttled.
http://m.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-ready-offer-completely-unlimited-data
No throttling either.
eh, this is how it starts..they offer unlimited then when you download xyz they cripple it to 10KB/s.
after people complain, they will stop throttling then implement a download cap again.
rinse and repeat.
This will be interesting. I'm now doubting how smart it was to sign a new contract with Sprint. With T-Mobile, you have your choice of Nexus and international phones (*cough*Mi2*cough*). Plus, T-Mobile is about to roll out LTE Advance next year. So basically, the plans and pricing should end up similar to Sprint with a very competitive network, but with a much better selection of phones (counting non-T-Mobile-endorsed Nexi and international phones).
I still have confidence in Sprint's NV/LTE upgrade, and I'm plenty satisfied with my S3 for now, so the next 2 years should be good for me, but this news definitely gives one something to ponder.
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My speed test this morning sitting on my porch in the open air with 3 signal bars on 3G.......yes I am STRONGLY considering T-Mobile now.
Sprint sucks and probably always will suck when it comes to data speed.
EDIT: According to the screenshot I had a full signal there smh.
gpgorbosjr said:
My speed test this morning sitting on my porch in the open air with 3 signal bars on 3G.......yes I am STRONGLY considering T-Mobile now.
Sprint sucks and probably always will suck when it comes to data speed.
EDIT: According to the screenshot I had a full signal there smh.
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I would make sure t-mobile is good in your area.
One thing that could keep me is that even T-Mo fanboys get mad about the incompetent, outsourced support line. I hate supporting companies that outsource jobs.
gpgorbosjr said:
My speed test this morning sitting on my porch in the open air with 3 signal bars on 3G.......yes I am STRONGLY considering T-Mobile now.
Sprint sucks and probably always will suck when it comes to data speed.
EDIT: According to the screenshot I had a full signal there smh.
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Where exactly in jersey are you? I know in new brunswick t-mobile was amazing
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DarkManX4lf said:
I would make sure t-mobile is good in your area.
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nikmash232 said:
Where exactly in jersey are you? I know in new brunswick t-mobile was amazing
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I'm in Linden (right next to Elizabeth)....I don't get those speeds all the time I just screencapped it this AM and was using for an excuse to share it....
I don't have a problem with Sprint's speed like I used to WHEN I GET IT. The problem is there are a lot of areas where it either connects only to 1X (inside certain buildings, but other carriers don't have this issue so it isn't the building) or times like in this screenshot where it is displaying a good 3G signal but the data doesn't actually work, it seems stuck.
I wouldn't switch to T-Mo. There speeds have gotten faster but nothing has changed to ease my mind as to their coverage when making calls. I remember I tried them for a week and there were places I got NO signal. No data, no voice.
EndlessDissent said:
This will be interesting. I'm now doubting how smart it was to sign a new contract with Sprint. With T-Mobile, you have your choice of Nexus and international phones (*cough*Mi2*cough*). Plus, T-Mobile is about to roll out LTE Advance next year. So basically, the plans and pricing should end up similar to Sprint with a very competitive network, but with a much better selection of phones (counting non-T-Mobile-endorsed Nexi and international phones).
I still have confidence in Sprint's NV/LTE upgrade, and I'm plenty satisfied with my S3 for now, so the next 2 years should be good for me, but this news definitely gives one something to ponder.
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I'm in the exact same boat. I've been with Sprint for over a decade and I was upset when they took away the Premire Program considering I had just qualified Gold status shortly after they came out with it. I let it slide because even though I don't use a ton of network data, I hate the idea of being kept to a limit and/or being throttled once I get there.
Like you, I'll give Sprint a fair chance here. I'm around the Chicago area, so we're in full blown Network Vision upgrade which has been hit and miss. Some places are great, others are atrocious. If their plans pan out, I'll stick with Sprint, but if not, I'll gladly jump to a GSM carrier for a variety of reasons, especially now that they're going to offer truly unlimited data as well.
if this holds true, im out of here with sprint. screw giving them a chance when were paying $10 for premium data. Dial up speeds are not premium data. hell even if we werent paying $10 a month, id still be considering it. I cant even access internet pages in good 3g areas half the time without having to refresh 4-5 times/ Let alone getting any of the apps to refresh. when I was with t-mobile. I always got 6-12mbps. Who cares that its hspa+. I would wait for LTE, but judging by what ive read, Sprint LTE has alot of connectivity issues as well.
If tmobile starts to offer unthrottled unlimited data and it cripples the network, then ill be in the same boat im already in with sprint. So i really cant lose. Paying these prices for this type of service is not acceptable to me.
Im at my wits end with sprint
I tried Tmobile for a week before canceling during the 15 day period. Speeds outdoors were good, but when I entered buildings I lost service completely. If you switch to Tmobile make sure you test indoors. I went from 5 bars at my desk to zero.
T-Mobile service is good in my area. I might consider it. GSM is better than CDMA anyways. I always liked tmobile. But i think im gonna have to wait until my contract is over.
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Where exactly in jersey are you? I know in new brunswick t-mobile was amazing
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He posted the longitude/latitude in his speedtest. Just plug those into google maps and you can see his porch.
Sleestax said:
He posted the longitude/latitude in his speedtest. Just plug those into google maps and you can see his porch.
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Lol....I don't think the GPS is actually good enough to lead right to my porch....but either way I don't enable the gps satellites so the location is a bit off. Got very close, but still about 3 blocks off.
EDIT: I was more worried about IP haha, but I'm guessing that info there isn't important.
I'm interested in seeing how this pans out. I just wish it was easier to try out T-Mobile in my area without feeling like a douche if I say no and return everything. (lol)
Master_sk3 said:
You read the title correctly, tmonews and android central. The question is would you switch to Tmobile for 4G HSPA+ data speeds with no caps or overages. I know im seriously thinking about it. The wait for LTE is killing me.
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If that was confirmed I would be jumping ship asap. But what about the price?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
blackdragon79 said:
If that was confirmed I would be jumping ship asap. But what about the price?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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Supposedly, everything unlimited would be $89.99/Mo. Not sure if that's worth the huge ETF for Sprint, but it's tempting for me, especially since I would pare that down a bit by getting as few minutes as possible.
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Supposedly, everything unlimited would be $89.99/Mo. Not sure if that's worth the huge ETF for Sprint, but it's tempting for me, especially since I would pare that down a bit by getting as few minutes as possible.
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Let sprint kick you to the curb all you have to do is roam 24/7 sprint will eventually drop you with no etf. That's a option to try. If t mobile didn't want a fee to sign up I would do just that.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
So after almost 20 years on ATT, have never changed providers, multiple models and makes of phones on ATT and never had a signal issue, outages yes, due to storms but once service back, no complaints
Made the switch for the 1st time over to Sprint, Samsung Galaxy S3 16GB (for some reason the automated system recognizes phones as 32GB).
After 48 hours on Sprint, horrible horrible horrible voice quality issues (ATT has quad band coverage in area, both 3G and 4G) and despite phone being a 4G, can only see 3G icon lit, anywhere within 50 miles of home. I am paying a surcharge of 10.00 extra for 4G for multiple phones, have yet to see the service. Yes, Sprint promised it would work.
Purchased legitimate (yes I know I can root using qbking videos and Team Epic files) wifi hotspot to tether, keeps dropping connection every few minutes where ATT tether was flawless.
Sprint says "we are working on new towers, service will improve, you have 14 days to return phones are we will refund or replace..."
Sigh.
It isn't a $10 4g fee
Its a premium data fee A.K.A. unlimited 3g/4g/roaming where available
Use s4gru.com to see when you will get lte
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Yes, the $10 fee was originally for wimax 4G, but after people complained Sprint reworded it as "premium data". Now Even smart phones that only have 3G get this charge.
Add far as voice service, yes Sprint is in the middle of their network vision improvements so ymmv, I have great voice service.
Seems you didn't do enough research before you switched to Sprint and went off the sales pitch the person gave you. Sales people in general will say just about anything to make the sale and get the commission.
Sent from Pluto.
The good news is your an educated consumer and you already know you have 14 days to return everything and cancel service and go back to ATT.
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The good news is your an educated consumer and you already know you have 14 days to return everything and cancel service and go back to ATT.
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that's what i would do also. in fact, if sprint's 4g lte service isn't competitive (when it's finally finished) i'm done with sprint and going to at&t.
xdafly said:
So after almost 20 years on ATT, have never changed providers, multiple models and makes of phones on ATT and never had a signal issue, outages yes, due to storms but once service back, no complaints
Made the switch for the 1st time over to Sprint, Samsung Galaxy S3 16GB (for some reason the automated system recognizes phones as 32GB).
After 48 hours on Sprint, horrible horrible horrible voice quality issues (ATT has quad band coverage in area, both 3G and 4G) and despite phone being a 4G, can only see 3G icon lit, anywhere within 50 miles of home. I am paying a surcharge of 10.00 extra for 4G for multiple phones, have yet to see the service. Yes, Sprint promised it would work.
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1. The GS3 is an LTE phone, not a 4G phone. So if they havent turned on LTE in your area, then yeah no duh you wont get it.
2. You are paying $10 a month for data, not specifically 4G. Yes its BS but deal with it, every company has the charge but in different words.
3. If its not working, complain that you get no service and return it for a refund. You have 14 days.
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Purchased legitimate (yes I know I can root using qbking videos and Team Epic files) wifi hotspot to tether, keeps dropping connection every few minutes where ATT tether was flawless.
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4. WHY!? Why would you pay? Rooting has 100 different benefits.
My question is, do you even know what you are doing? Did you read ANYTHING about the phone or how it works, did you research the service quality in your area before switching?
Where are you located? I can understand your frustration, it's hard for me to believe that you are saying that ATT voice is clearer than Sprints
I mean I guess if you're roaming and on another tower not owned by Sprint
I'm going to guess your location is your major problem, do you live in a rural area? Sprint works really well in Metro areas, not so much in the rural areas although they are broadening their coverage to these type of areas.
In my opinion, CDMA technology has sharper voice than GSM
Too bad you are experiencing this type of issue.
so you are at the age of 38-40 years old?
Kinda came at a wrong time
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Wow Sprint has bad voice? That's the first I ever heard of that.
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Its easy...return the equipment and cancel the contract
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pacifik.fuzion said:
in fact, if sprint's 4g lte service isn't competitive (when it's finally finished) i'm done with sprint and going to at&t.
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If it saves you a year of misery, Sprint's stated *GOAL* for network vision is a pathetic 6 mbps. Compare that *goal* to what people you know are getting with AT&T, Verizon, and even T-mobile *today*, and decide for yourself whether Sprint is even worth bothering with.
Frankly, I'm through with Sprint. If it weren't for the Galaxy Note 2 tantalizing me on or before 10/15, I'd have probably gone to the AT&T store today and bought a GS3 instead. In fact, if they announce a release date after that, I'll just get the S3, becase I hate my unflashable Photon with a passion, and can't replace it with a Sprint S3 because *then* I'd have no usable data service (wimax works ok here, but no LTE yet, and EVDO here has been 6 to ~80kbps down lately. I had faster 1xRTT 5 years ago).
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i been telling people to stay clear from sprint for months. I will admit it's bad if your coming from a carrier with usable internet pretty much everyone except Sprint, it will be hard adjusting. I used 8 gigs a month at T-Mobile and with sprint I'm lucky to crack 500 mb. I will be heading back to T-Mobile after dec lesson well learned if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Location, Location, Location.........
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Location, Location, Location.........
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Exactly. It's just about stable enough in Dallas that I have ditched my AT&T Note and strictly carry my Sprint phone. Att and Verizon speeds are comparable. Voice quality in this market is unmatched. Sprint wins hands down. whoopdy doo...Tmobile now has unlimited...and is garbage here in big D.
The only one here in the market that may have a competitive edge is Metro with voice over LTE...though their unlImIted data, speeds are capped at 5mbps
I'm not even going to get into the whole grandfathered data on Att being throttled and the new share plans pricing structure being absurd.
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I seriously dont understand how people complain about sprint. Its probably 25-35% cheaper compared to every other contract carrier...and was one of the first contract carriers to offer unlimited data, not sure if it still is. I get many discounts off my bill simply because I have state farm insurance and other various memberships. I had verizon for YEARS, switched to sprint, could hardly tell the difference. 90% of the time its all in your head.
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1. The GS3 is an LTE phone, not a 4G phone. So if they havent turned on LTE in your area, then yeah no duh you wont get it.
4. WHY!? Why would you pay? Rooting has 100 different benefits.
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LTE is 4g....
And because sometimes people are honest? If everyone just stole it, Sprint would be much more likely to figure out a way to block it. If you're going to actually use it regularly I think people should pay for it.
pacifik.fuzion said:
that's what i would do also. in fact, if sprint's 4g lte service isn't competitive (when it's finally finished) i'm done with sprint and going to at&t.
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Excelent move
bitbang3r said:
If it saves you a year of misery, Sprint's stated *GOAL* for network vision is a pathetic 6 mbps. Compare that *goal* to what people you know are getting with AT&T, Verizon, and even T-mobile *today*, and decide for yourself whether Sprint is even worth bothering with.
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I was under the impression that 6mbps was their goal for their average speeds. People with Sprint LTE right now are posting 30 mbps speeds. When I had Verizon I would get 5 mbps on LTE at home, where I had low signal, and 25 to 30 at work, where I had excellent signal. There's a huge difference when talking between peak and average speeds.