[Q] Unlocked Bootloader and Rooting - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I am new to Android and rooting and had a couple questions. I will be getting the Xperia Play R800x soon. If you get the bootloader unlocked from SE, do you still need to root the device? I have been trying to get everything ready for when I get the phone. I have Android SDK and Flashtool installed. If I want to get the NXT Light Edition Rom, do I need a custom kernel as well? Thanks.

tbrooks9 said:
Hi, I am new to Android and rooting and had a couple questions. I will be getting the Xperia Play R800x soon. If you get the bootloader unlocked from SE, do you still need to root the device? I have been trying to get everything ready for when I get the phone. I have Android SDK and Flashtool installed. If I want to get the NXT Light Edition Rom, do I need a custom kernel as well? Thanks.
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If you get your bootloader unlocked and flash a custom kernel/ROM no you dont need to root as nearly all, if not all come with root. Seen as you have flashtool and everything else use a custom kernel. If you want to return to stock then just reflash a ftf file for r800x , make sure you dont flash a ftf for r800i though. I dont have the link handy but there is a thread here with all ftf files. Just search in XdA
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tbrooks9 said:
Hi, I am new to Android and rooting and had a couple questions. I will be getting the Xperia Play R800x soon. If you get the bootloader unlocked from SE, do you still need to root the device? I have been trying to get everything ready for when I get the phone. I have Android SDK and Flashtool installed. If I want to get the NXT Light Edition Rom, do I need a custom kernel as well? Thanks.
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Just a heads up.... The NXT light rom is gsm... It won't work on the r800x
Sent from my R800x

Thank you Wedgess and Lordomn. Since the NXT light is for the GSM version, would you recommend the COLA rom, or maybe SlimBean or CM9?

tbrooks9 said:
Thank you Wedgess and Lordomn. Since the NXT light is for the GSM version, would you recommend the COLA rom, or maybe SlimBean or CM9?
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Think CosmicDans MIUI for ICS is for cdma. Id say its probably one of the best performance wise for ICS. You could also check out my PACMan ROM gor JB i uploaded a cdma version which works fine touchpads are also supported, camera/video ect works. Also instead of saying thanks click the thanks button instead
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slim bean performs very well also.

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[Q] Another Typical noob question (any help is appreciated)

So, I have an Xperia Play running gingerbread but even though the plans to get ICS were scrapped I still want it.
Now in terms of what i've done. I've rooted my phone using the one click zerg rush thing
But i dont know what to do from there to get ICS on my phone
so any further help would be appreciated
Thanks
V1P3RBC said:
So, I have an Xperia Play running gingerbread but even though the plans to get ICS were scrapped I still want it.
Now in terms of what i've done. I've rooted my phone using the one click zerg rush thing
But i dont know what to do from there to get ICS on my phone
so any further help would be appreciated
Thanks
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You have to unlock fastboot on your phone. Flash a custom kernel and rom. Take your pick
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk 2
First unlock bootloader, n find the ics rom u want from the play dev forum, u can choose from many different roms based on ics beta or else the ics beta itself
Regards from Lucian
Xperia Play with True Ancestor Rom modded myself..
Locked Bootloader
You'll need to unlock your bootloader bro. If your Xperia is a debranded phone (bought directly from Sony) you can unlock it for free.
If you're under a carrier company, you need to check the following:
In your dialer, please put this code: *#*#7378423#*#* and if you made it corretly, it will display the service menu.
Go to Service info-configuration
Go down and see the Rooting status.
If "Bootloader unlock is allowed" says "Yes", congratulations, you can unlock your bootloader for free; otherwise you'll need to pay about $25 to unlock it. In the process your phone will be SIM free, so you can put any carrier SIM if you want.
This is the official site instructions:
http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions
¡Good luck!
Once you've got all the bootloader/rooting stuff figured out, I recommend XDarkICS ROM. It has extensive gamepad/touchpad support and is based off of Sony Stock ICS. Almost no bugs. Use DoomLord's ICS beta V3 kernel if you choose this ROM.
XDarkICS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1729250
DoomLord's kernel for ICS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573184
Justinchi said:
Once you've got all the bootloader/rooting stuff figured out, I recommend XDarkICS ROM. It has extensive gamepad/touchpad support and is based off of Sony Stock ICS. Almost no bugs. Use DoomLord's ICS beta V3 kernel if you choose this ROM.
XDarkICS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1729250
DoomLord's kernel for ICS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573184
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I would say that rom is quite buggy going by comments but definitely a must rom for touchpads
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Thanks guys, I'll try to get my head around all the unlocking stuff and see how it comes out

Locked Bootlader: What rom available?

Ok, i understand that ICS is just not good for gaming. I have a R800ì root LOCKED BOOTLOADER. Can i still do some flashinf roms, etc etc? I'm new in these things, but i think it's time for me to begin. If i want to keep my bootloader blocked, what can i flash? Is it possible to flash Xperia NXT 1.2 rom, DIxperia 2 rom, TrueAncestor rom, etc etc?
And most important. BEFORE i do anything, is there a way to back up everything EXACTLY as it was, so i can go back to my stock 2.3.4? Thank u for your time guys:good:
Hi, assuming you are rooted, yes you can install some rom that are compatible with locked loaders. The ones you mentioned are all compatible, provided you flash the specific fw that's indicated in each of those rom
You can do a nandroid backup to backup your current rom exactly like it is right now, with cwm. Just download x parts from the market
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk 2
drivenby said:
Hi, assuming you are rooted, yes you can install some rom that are compatible with locked loaders. The ones you mentioned are all compatible, provided you flash the specific fw that's indicated in each of those rom
You can do a nandroid backup to backup your current rom exactly like it is right now, with cwm. Just download x parts from the market
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk 2
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Thank you, exactly what i needed to hear. Another queations though. Since it 's my understanding that for those roms i also need to change differents firmware (i have stock. 42 now), i would like to know if a nandroid backup include my original firmware (.42).
Ansother thing: with a locked bootloader what i cannot do? Change kernels?
My favorite so far is Gin2JellyBean 1.8.1, i still have my bootloader locked, it has some bugs like weird looking home screen when it's in landscape mode but still very smooth and great looking :silly:
Dany XP said:
Thank you, exactly what i needed to hear. Another queations though. Since it 's my understanding that for those roms i also need to change differents firmware (i have stock. 42 now), i would like to know if a nandroid backup include my original firmware (.42).
Ansother thing: with a locked bootloader what i cannot do? Change kernels?
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Also, i see that sometimes for installaing a rom, changing kernerl is required. But can i change kernel with locked bootloaader?
With a LB hoy cannot install custom kernels, only flash official released ones. Some roms are also compatible With LB
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With a LB hoy cannot install custom kernels, only flash official released ones. Some roms are also compatible With LB
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Thanks. No kernels with LB. But what about firmwares? Can i install other firmwares? And an nandroid backups my firmware too?
Firmware = official release
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If a do a nandroid backup of a stock 2.3.4 Sony rom, will be inclueded the firmware too?
You cab try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1790615
Sorry for my bad English. It's not my native language.
Wait, sometimes i read a rom is "based on .64" or "u have to put baseband .42"....what does that mean?

Fast Xperia Arc Kernel

Hi All,
I have a rooted ICS Arc (4.1.B.0.431) with a locked bootloader. What is a good, fast kernel for it ? Thanks in advance.
Call me silly, but you the entire benefit of unlocking your bootloader is the ability to flash custom kernels. Therefore...locked bootloader means no custom kernel.
I'm no guru....so please, anyone, correct me if I'm wrong here...
Sent from my Arc S
first U Update your Phone to Fw.587 ,
then talk about Kernels
ajgftw said:
Call me silly, but you the entire benefit of unlocking your bootloader is the ability to flash custom kernels. Therefore...locked bootloader means no custom kernel.
I'm no guru....so please, anyone, correct me if I'm wrong here...
Sent from my Arc S
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I downgraded and upgraded kernel alone to achieve root for ICS...
ArcMan09 said:
first U Update your Phone to Fw.587 ,
then talk about Kernels
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I am unable to update to FW.587 OTA. The update center downloads the update and fails to update upon reboot (get an error here). I suppose my only option due to this is to flash the official .587 kernel. If I need to flash a kernel, why not a 'better' kernel ?
Then U Flash A FTF ,
Because For ME OTA Sucks !
Don't upgrade to .587. Lags too much, I went back to .431.
Kernel-wise, unlock your bootloader then try ArcKnight 3.5.1 or SEGA Kernel V3 Army edition.
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[Q] Help with camera

hi i have a xperia play r800x and i see that the trueancestor rom is compatible with my phone and everything works good except the video recording, every time i stop recording it forces closing how i can fix that?
sorry for my english xD
Fiti_99 said:
hi i have a xperia play r800x and i see that the trueancestor rom is compatible with my phone and everything works good except the video recording, every time i stop recording it forces closing how i can fix that?
sorry for my english xD
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what kernel are you using? if you are using stock lupus gb/ics 720 p version you might be using a 420 p setting of recording. it is a known issue
hi i have the stock kernel because my bootloader is not unlocked
sorry for my english xD
Fiti_99 said:
hi i have the stock kernel because my bootloader is not unlocked
sorry for my english xD
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Well since you have a r800x I suggest you unlock your boot loader and flash a new kernel
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ok what is the best kernel for r800x and is there any good ics rom?
Fiti_99 said:
ok what is the best kernel for r800x and is there any good ics rom?
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on my personal opinion True Ancestor Rom by Jjkkyu its my daily driver and everything is working fine and battery life is good and i use it together with Lupus ICS_v12
ok that rom you mentioned is compatible with r800x??? how i unlock my bootloader?? and if i unlock my bootloader and i downgrade with flashtool my bootloader is still unlocked??
Fiti_99 said:
ok that rom you mentioned is compatible with r800x??? how i unlock my bootloader?? and if i unlock my bootloader and i downgrade with flashtool my bootloader is still unlocked??
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heres the link for the rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2210559&page=2
you can also find in the android dev section how to unlock your bootloader
ok but is compatible with r800x, games camera etc and how do i downgrade without relocking my bootloader
edit: i also saw the xdark rom and looks good what rom is the best that it will give full xperia 2011 ics experience with completely funcionality
edit2: ok i have Bootloader unlock allowed missing so how i can unlock my bootloader
sorry for my english
That's not compatible with r800x. Its only for gsm. It'll boot but it wont give you service and if you want camera and game pads you cant install on locked bootloader. Also download an ftf and flash with flashtool to downgrade without unlocking. Check out fma965s guides. They are very helpful and explain how to do everything very well
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ok i know, i dont care about service, i only want a ics rom with funcionaly at 100%
with camera and touchpads and how i UNLOCK MY BOOTLOADER WITH Bootloader unlock allowed missing
and i ask of how to downgrade without RELOCKING bootloader, no UNLOCKING
edit: ok i dont care if it is an ics or, jb or gb rom I ONLY WANT A FIX FOR CAMERA ON DIXPERIA 2 OR XPERIA NXT ROM OR TA GB ROM WITH A LOCKED BOOTLOADER
edit2k i have unlocked my bootloader so can someone please give a tutorial of how to install the xdark ics rom, i have r800x with 2.3.3
Do not install ANY GSM GB roms they are incompatable to the R800x you will get a black screen instead of a home screen. You can only install ics and jb roms. but that requires a unlocked bootloader. If you dont have your bootloader unlocked your stuck with what you have.
chery2k said:
Do not install ANY GSM GB roms they are incompatable to the R800x you will get a black screen instead of a home screen. You can only install ics and jb roms. but that requires a unlocked bootloader. If you dont have your bootloader unlocked your stuck with what you have.
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Actually you can install gsm gb roms and flash xdarkmarios patch right afterwards and it'll boot fine but no service ofcourse
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yes i flashed several gsm roms with darkmario pathc and all works excpt the video recording in high or youtube high (it works in the other modes)
ok i cant find any fix to video recording or any good roms (due to that all the roms for r800x are themed stock roms and my bootloader is locked) so i will stay in stock rom with my own adds
sorry for my english

[Q] Ion says Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No, Can I install custom ROMs/kernels anyway?

I've been trying to buy a Sony Xperia Ion (LT28AT) for use on T-Mobile USA where the bootloader is allowed to be unlocked. So far, all the devices I've looked at all say No.
I know I can still root an LT28AT where the bootloader unlock allowed = No, but I can't install custom ROMs and kernels, right?
But from reading threads here it seems some people can still install custom ROMs and kernels where the answer is No. Can anyone please clear this up for me?
Thanks!
With a locked bootloader you can use roms that are stock-based.
With an unlocked bootloader you can use roms that need another kernel, just like miui, cm 10 etc
w3nZ said:
With a locked bootloader you can use roms that are stock-based.
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Does that include CyanogenMod ROMs like CM10, CM11 etc?
Also, with a locked bootloader can anyone tell me if I can install any kernels that will overclock?
THANKS!
CyanogenMod Roms need their own kernel, and to flash this kernel, you need an unlocked bootloader.
You cant flash any custom kernel on a locked bootloader.
You must unlocked bootloader before flash another kernel.
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With a locked bootloader you can use roms that are stock-based.
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So what ROMs are stock-based that are available on XDA?
U can actually flash cm 10 on u a locked boot loader... A developer @mrgeez is working on making cm10 rom for locked bootloaders... Some roms work on locked boot loader and some don't... But ideally don't buy a cell with locked bootloader.. Causes to many problems..
Sent from my lt28h running kitkat ??
Hit thanks if I helped.. ??
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parthv21 said:
U can actually flash cm 10 on u a locked boot loader... A developer @mrgeez is working on making cm10 rom ...
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That's not me sadly, you're probably thinking of someone else with a similar name...
Ya... I was talking about @MrGezz...
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mrgeez said:
That's not me sadly, you're probably thinking of someone else with a similar name...
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parthv21 said:
Ya... I was talking about @MrGezz...
Sent from my Xperia ion using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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that kinda funny , hahaha, but anyone who own xperia ion that want to test cm10 for LB can found it here
Sorry, @parthv21, your info is inaccurate. See below link:
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL][4.1.2] CyanogenMod 10 for LOCKED bootloaders(For Xperia Ion)
EEngineer said:
Sorry, @parthv21, your info is inaccurate. See below link:
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL][4.1.2] CyanogenMod 10 for LOCKED bootloaders(For Xperia Ion)
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What's inaccurate about it? This is an exception because they managed to get CM10 working with a stock kernel. You can't get any higher versions though because those require an appropriate kernel that isn't stock anymore. There have been a lot of kernel changes between Android 4.1 and 4.2. So on locked bootloader you can install stockbased ROMs (like eXistenZ) and one particular version of CM10. Impossible to flash a custom kernel.
Unlocking the bootloader also has downsides though. Beyond Android 4.0, the Mobile Bravia Engine stops working on an unlocked bootloader. Without that, the colours are a bit more washed out, and the screen already isn't the most vibrant around (the Xperia S screen anyway, but the Xperia Ion screen isn't that different).
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What's inaccurate about it?
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EEngineer said:
I know I can still root an LT28AT where the bootloader unlock allowed = No, but I can't install custom ROMs and kernels, right?
But from reading threads here it seems some people can still install custom ROMs and kernels where the answer is No. Can anyone please clear this up for me?
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Redstarr1 said:
This is an exception because they managed to get CM10 working with a stock kernel. You can't get any higher versions though because those require an appropriate kernel that isn't stock anymore. There have been a lot of kernel changes between Android 4.1 and 4.2. So on locked bootloader you can install stockbased ROMs (like eXistenZ) and one particular version of CM10. Impossible to flash a custom kernel.
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So really a locked bootloader means I can't install any kernels, And I can only install ROMs compatible with my existing stock kernel.
Redstarr1 said:
Unlocking the bootloader also has downsides though. Beyond Android 4.0, the Mobile Bravia Engine stops working on an unlocked bootloader. Without that, the colours are a bit more washed out, and the screen already isn't the most vibrant around (the Xperia S screen anyway, but the Xperia Ion screen isn't that different).
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Good to know!

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