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So my tablet is getting pretty full(its an 8gb), and I want to move some of my apps to my 16gb sd card, but I dont know how, I tried the Apps2SD app, but it doesnt seem to work. Can anyone help me out?
No, none of the Froyo/Gingerbread utilities work with Honeycomb due to the different memory arrangement. Here is some more discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415472
Ugh okay, so I can only delete apps to make room for others?
You can back up your apps to .apks on your external sd card, using either ES File Manager or Astro. That makes it easy to delete them and later re-install them.
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Ugh okay, so I can only delete apps to make room for others?
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Its been discussed pretty heavily in other threads, (using search will find them) just moving the app won't do a whole lot for you since the data for the app is still stored in the internal memory. I created a internal to external memory swap found in the development section to help with this problem but using a 16gb external card won't be a whole lot of extra space (although it'll still be better than the 5.7gb of space that the internal memory has for storage).
While it wont help with apps, most often its the apps data that is a problem not the app itself so I use the app GL to SD from the market
https://market.android.com/details?...t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0.
You have to be rooted but I find it works great. Its designed to store game data for Gameloft games on your SD card instead of your internal memory since most of them take in the neighborhood of 800MB a piece (or more) but it works for seemingly anything.
So far it has also successfully worked for every game I have used it on including GTAIII, Sonic CD, and Galaxy on Fire 2 to name a few.
It also lets you specify custom mount points for those apps that store their data in a weird space.
ok. Here's the deal. I'd try to do this myself but I have next to no android knowledge other than how to use the things. I was going to get a 64gb card and do the ext sd swap trick I've seen on here BUT... half my hours were cut at work and I can no longer afford to get a 64gb card. I do have a 16gb in the phone now. I was hoping a way to make the phone think that 16 was part of the internal storage so I could extend the internal storage to the sd card. Does that make sense? Is this possible at all? Could anyone make it possible? If I added up the internal with my 16 that'd be 32gb which would be a nice size. I have apps in the app store that I can't install right now because of the limited 16gb (11 usable) space on my phone. I would really appreciate any help you guys could offer me in making my 16gb card work for apps along with my internal storage. Thanks so much!
Wrong section bro :/
Next time ask in Q&A section.
As for your question, as far as I know, that isn't possible. You can either use the internal or swap and use the sd card. You cannot merge both together, though.
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This does not belong in development section...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27807857
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849860
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ok. Here's the deal. I'd try to do this myself but I have next to no android knowledge other than how to use the things. I was going to get a 64gb card and do the ext sd swap trick I've seen on here BUT... half my hours were cut at work and I can no longer afford to get a 64gb card. I do have a 16gb in the phone now. I was hoping a way to make the phone think that 16 was part of the internal storage so I could extend the internal storage to the sd card. Does that make sense? Is this possible at all? Could anyone make it possible? If I added up the internal with my 16 that'd be 32gb which would be a nice size. I have apps in the app store that I can't install right now because of the limited 16gb (11 usable) space on my phone. I would really appreciate any help you guys could offer me in making my 16gb card work for apps along with my internal storage. Thanks so much!
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What you're 'asking' would be to physically the hard memory of the nand chip - its not going to happen,
Best thing you could do is install what apps you could, then use something like titanium backup and batch move other apps to the sd card. Don't move widgets or any app you use as a widget to the sd card, or you lose widget functionality.
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yes yes it was posted in the wrong section, I'm sorry. It was moved to q and a so it's all good i guess...
as for my question, there's no way to join the two partitions together like you could hard drives on a computer?
if not... what is this app2sd about? If I used it would I still have my icons on the homescreens for all my apps or would it be some kind of fugly method of launching the apps on my sd card?
if I replaced my internal with my 16gb sd card would that give me a little more space since android is installed on the 16gb that the phone comes with? Currently my phone says it has 11GB usable space on the storage section... soooo if I used my 16gb would that give me 16GB usable? That'd help with my memory a little bit...
and finally... if I made the 16gb my internal... would it be possible to copy movies and emulator roms to the main phone storage since i'm using sd for apps at that point, or does that just totally negate the internal storage for everything?
sorry to ask so many questions. thanks for the help in advance. sorry about posting in the wrong section.
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yes yes it was posted in the wrong section, I'm sorry. It was moved to q and a so it's all good i guess...
as for my question, there's no way to join the two partitions together like you could hard drives on a computer?
if not... what is this app2sd about? If I used it would I still have my icons on the homescreens for all my apps or would it be some kind of fugly method of launching the apps on my sd card?
if I replaced my internal with my 16gb sd card would that give me a little more space since android is installed on the 16gb that the phone comes with? Currently my phone says it has 11GB usable space on the storage section... soooo if I used my 16gb would that give me 16GB usable? That'd help with my memory a little bit...
and finally... if I made the 16gb my internal... would it be possible to copy movies and emulator roms to the main phone storage since i'm using sd for apps at that point, or does that just totally negate the internal storage for everything?
sorry to ask so many questions. thanks for the help in advance. sorry about posting in the wrong section.
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This is a really confusing question. Have you filled up your internal storage with apps? If so you can extend larger apps to install on the sd card and they'll run normally, unless the app involves a widget. You should never move apps that have widgets over to the sd.
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how do I install larger apps to the sd? Also, what would the point be of switching my sd to internal storage like that one mod floating around here if I can just use the internal and install apps to my sd as well?
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how do I install larger apps to the sd? Also, what would the point be of switching my sd to internal storage like that one mod floating around here if I can just use the internal and install apps to my sd as well?
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Search for an app on the market called App 2 SD. There doesn't seem to be a way to do it without a 3rd party app on this phone.
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MikeWjF said:
Search for an app on the market called App 2 SD. There doesn't seem to be a way to do it without a 3rd party app on this phone.
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ya i searched for app2sd in the marketplace and they don't work. i think there's only one floating around on the forum here that works with the s3 but i hear it's real clunky too where you don't have icons on your home screen you have to open app2sd and launch some stuff from there which is just weird i dunno. I might bite the bullet and grab a 32gb card and hope that's enough...
I saw a very lengthy and complicated way to use an sdcard as the primary storage (involving scripts, etc). So here's my quick question. I have rooted my device and want t know, is there an app or something very simple I can follow so I can start installing apps onto my 64GB sdcard? Right now it's just a piece of plastic with nothing on it.
Any help would be appreciated!
I am using this app it works perfect with Samsung 64gb uhs1 sd just change dev access 179:17 https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDIxMiwiZXUuY29kbGFiLmludDJleHQiXQ..
Quick questions
Thank you for the reply, I have figured it out now
Interesting - let us know if it's got any gotchas, but it looks like it may do a lot of what the scripts I put together did.
Only gotcha is...
roustabout said:
Interesting - let us know if it's got any gotchas, but it looks like it may do a lot of what the scripts I put together did.
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The only "gotcha" that this program has is as follows: If you reboot your device or power it off, you have to reapply the "fix". It doesn't know how to modify the boot rom or whatever it's called to reapply the patch. No big deal since it's literally just two clicks. One to open the app, the other click to "Apply fix".
Hope this helps someone
For me, that'd be a big gotcha - I reboot mine all the time
I took a run at setting it up and I actually found it harder to be sure of what I was doing than when I wrote the scripts but that's really just down to taste.
One thing I saw in the writeup: if you do enable init.d (scripts that run at boot time) this app can create a script which does its magic at startup.
I have a sneaking suspicion that boot scripts are going to be available to everyone pretty soon.
Use SD Card as internal memory or RAM
You can use your SD Card as an internal memory storage space by using "Link2SD" app. There is another app known as "Swapper" (Swapper2 is the latest version), by using which you can use a segment of your SD Card as your RAM.
In both the cases you actually dedicate a portion of your SD Card to use as internal memory or RAM (whatever you desire).
NOTE: In both the cases, i.e for RAM and internal memory, you first have to repartition your SD Card and for that i must recommend you to use "MiniTool Partition Wizard" app.
For more info simply ask me
Thanks for the information. MPW needs the card out of the Note I found out. Makes sense.
Minitool Partition Wizard doesn't see my Note. What am I missing?
Windows 7 64bit, GT-N5110
Thanks everyone for your contributions,
using the external microSD as RAM and/or internal storage sounds great, but.... how does it perform in real life?
I mean we all know that swapping RAM and HDD in a desktop PC isn't gonna speed up things, right?
And although it's an sd card and not an HDD it is none the less a lot slower than the built in memory I would guess.
Does somebody have solid knowledge about it? Is there an impact on app loading speeds and background OS operations?
Thank you very much in advance,
Yoko
hi! i am currently using a 64gb sandisk micro sd as my external memory. can i ask if this app works with the note 8: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.codlab.int2ext#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDIxMiwiZXUuY29kbGFiLmludDJleHQiXQ
if it works, do i just follow the instructions on the description? if not, can someone give me a step by step guide? sorry, i'm new to android, it's my first time having a tablet actually, thanks!
Good sir.... that ist the app we are discussing since post #2
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Yoko
thanks! i'll try..i'll post again if i have any more questions!
Having been told by samsung customer services not to expect a larger memory device for a while, I'm jumping on this thread to explore my other options as I really had my heart set on the 32GB model. I had limited success when trying this with my ASUS Transformer but I didnt try very hard to make it work to be fair...
Once you have an app like link2sd up and running is there any limitation to what apps you can use it for? My plan is to use it with large games that would otherwise fill up the internal memory.
Are there any performance issues with doing this with large apps due to lower read and write times on a micro SD card vs the internal SD?
Are there any issues if you remove the external SD card when not running those apps (id like to review photos from my camera on my tablet while I am out and about)?
If the answer to these questions are all no, I'll likely order the 16GB tablet ASAP.
Just found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285221
Think I will go for FolderMount if I can confirm there are no issues using it with a rooted Note 8.0. Im not fussed about moving the APK files. I'm sure there will be enough room on the internal SD for those. I'll just move the data files.
I dont think there would be any benifit of using a partition of the SD card as SWAP (unless someone can correct me on this). It already has 2 GB and the SWAP will be slow due to the max read write speed of the microSD.
If all goes well I will be picking my tablet up on Sunday ready to start playing
You may want to check out this thread as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2276193
Worked wonders for me. Easy as pie.
Hi all,
I have a Galaxy S 10.5 (16GB) that I picked up in September of 2014. I love the thing but it's showing a weird issue. Any time I hit 500MB storage remaining, Google Play Store will no longer update apps. It gives me an insufficient storage notification. I can go in and clear the cache and everything is great - until I get to 500MB remaining again. Then I have to find more space again.
I've had a 64GB SD card installed in the device since I purchased it. I store music there and move apps that support it to the memory card. I was hoping that having the SD card would make the (insufficient) 16GB of storage liveable. It hasn't and the 500MB has only made it more challenging.
Has anyone seen this before and/or have any ideas what might be going on here.
Thanks!
I think that might be the limit of free space that must be available for the System to use. Think of it like a fail-safe approach to keep the tablet running smooth while it is constantly caching, deleting/creating temporary files, and allocating memory space in the background. Without sufficient free space available, it can't do those functions.
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I think that might be the limit of free space that must be available for the System to use. Think of it like a fail-safe approach to keep the tablet running smooth while it is constantly caching, deleting/creating temporary files, and allocating memory space in the background. Without sufficient free space available, it can't do those functions.
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Thanks. That seems reasonable. It's particularly annoying because the OS occupies almost 5GB of the 16GB I'm supposed to have. I'd rather Google/Samsung throw that 500MB into the 5GB they already have rather than tease me by telling me it's available but essentially unusable.
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
<rant> First and foremost I completely agree that Google's handling of external memory, or their lack of wanting to handle, or let users use microSD cards is wrong. The way it handles moving program data to external cards in kitkat is horrible and lollipop honestly is not much better, but at least users were determined to be sufficiently old and intelligent enough to be "allowed" to grant programs permission to manage our external data instead of only letting oem programs that ability. </rant>
With all that said the answer to your issue is even more simple then that. All Programs take up at minium 2x the space while you are updating them. You have the apk (the update) and the actual program existing at the same time. Not to mention that the programs tend to take up more space then apk's due to compression of resources and other things. Given those 2 things instead of trusting that the user won't download a 200MB update and seeing it is only 200MB put annother 200MB of music on the device while it is downloading causing issues google puts a free space cap.
I always thought that the system memory is included in that block of space the 4-5GB that the OS and bloat live in.
There HAS to be some spaced reserved for the OS or the tablet would crash. data is constantly written to the data partition which is part of the internal storage and this space is needed to run the device.
I have run into this issue myself, but its easily resolved by moving all unecessary stuff to the sd card - downloads, music, media, apps e.t.c.
All it takes is a bit of housekeeping every now and then. Download an app called All-in-One toolkit from play, it will find loads of junk files which you can safely delete to free a fair amount of space.
However I agree it was rather stingy of Samsung not to include 32gGb of internal storage which should be the minium for a so called flagship device.
Yeah, this issue of less than usable sdcard is also worrying me.
I had a Galaxy tab 8.9 (which came to the market in 2011) before this. It had 16gb and no SDcard. Storage was a pain.
AFAIR, also there is no Gmail syncing when below the limit. Imagine the frustration not getting your emails and trying to find something to delete.
I was hoping the SD card in the tab S would be more usable, but alas. At least Lollipop is slightly better, but only if the apps wanna use it. I get frustrated when dictionary app Merriam Webster for example stores its 100 megabytes data file in internal memory. Same with TED app videos.
And of course, current Rom and OS used almost double the storage for system as the tablet from 2011. Android 4.0.4. Apps have become bigger too.
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fred_be9300 said:
At least Lollipop is slightly better, but only if the apps wanna use it. I get frustrated when dictionary app Merriam Webster for example stores its 100 megabytes data file in internal memory. Same with TED app videos.
And of course, current Rom and OS used almost double the storage for system as the tablet from 2011. Android 4.0.4. Apps have become bigger too.
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Precisely! The Samsung text-to-speech engine takes up at least 300MB of storage. Facebook consumes about 200MB. The Kindle app (sort of understandable since I have a lot of books) uses almost 200MB. Very little of any of that can be saved to my 60% empty SD card. Add in Newsstand and other similar apps and space is eaten up very quickly. Super annoying...
I'm now discovering this problem and it is really annoying. Is rooting the only way of getting round this? I don't want to do this but I don't think I have an option. I only have 500MB left on internal but 40GB on my 64GB micro sd.
mightywhites29111971 said:
I'm now discovering this problem and it is really annoying.
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I'm not even sure that rooting would change much about this. With rooting you can remove some of the limitations in KK and Lp about writing to the external sd card...
But this will not get applications to spontaneously use the external sd card instead of the internal SD card, for their data.
I know there used to be tricks like a2sd, link2sd, and other variations... which were widespread 3-5 years ago. To make the device believe, through symlinks and crafted mounts, that an ext3 partition on the sdcard was a part of internal data. It was often cause for instability if executed less than perfectly.
I had this on my HTC Desire, a "flagship" phone from 5 years ago, with top of the line hardware: cpu , mem, screen, but with only 250mb for internal data.
I have not searched for it specifically but so far I've not seen anybody talking about those tricks for this device.
Disk Usage
This is a free app that shows you exactly where your storage space has gone. None of this nebulous "miscellaneous" nonsense. I was able to recover about my existing free space in extra space from stuff I didn't realize was still in my storage. While this is not a solution to not being able to store all your apps on an external card it might just help a few ppl get that extra space they need.
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Disk Usage
This is a free app that shows you exactly where your storage space has gone. None of this nebulous "miscellaneous" nonsense. I was able to recover about my existing free space in extra space from stuff I didn't realize was still in my storage. While this is not a solution to not being able to store all your apps on an external card it might just help a few ppl get that extra space they need.
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Thanks for that. Have downloaded that and had a look and I have nearly 5GB of OBB files! I think this is where my issue is, and I think the only way I can resolve this for myself is to root and use an app that transfers OBB files to SD.
mightywhites29111971 said:
Thanks for that. Have downloaded that and had a look and I have nearly 5GB of OBB files! I think this is where my issue is, and I think the only way I can resolve this for myself is to root and use an app that transfers OBB files to SD.
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I hope that works out for you. I gave up on the idea of moving obb files that didn't want to move (way too much hassle for something that does not always work right) and instead decided to have less massive obb apps (games) installed at one time. I can only do one thing at a time anyways.
I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage, or at the very least be able to move apps to the card, but EMUI doesn't want to allow me to. I've already set it as my default storage, but that doesn't much help my situation since none of the apps actually go there.
I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?
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I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage, or at the very least be able to move apps to the card, but EMUI doesn't want to allow me to. I've already set it as my default storage, but that doesn't much help my situation since none of the apps actually go there.
I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?
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Builder's Choice...
Either External Storage can be Formatted as Internal Storage or it can not.. you would see the option under "Format".
drizzl said:
I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage, or at the very least be able to move apps to the card, but EMUI doesn't want to allow me to. I've already set it as my default storage, but that doesn't much help my situation since none of the apps actually go there.
I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?
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I have set my card as internal storage and since then all my apps and data goes in the that card but older apps installed pre card insertion wont obviously.
sid21 said:
I have set my card as internal storage and since then all my apps and data goes in the that card but older apps installed pre card insertion wont obviously.
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How you did that?
Me Too.....
sid21 said:
I have set my card as internal storage and since then all my apps and data goes in the that card but older apps installed pre card insertion wont obviously.
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optionalmgrr.la said:
How you did that?
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On A Stock Device ?
I'd like to know how you've accomplished that feat as well..
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On A Stock Device ?
I'd like to know how you've accomplished that feat as well..
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Why is everone hell bent on this one?
Just go in settings>memory & storage>change default location to memory card..
Am i missing something?
Everything from this point goes into memory card..
This isnt rocket science..
Really...?
sid21 said:
Why is everone hell bent on this one?
Just go in settings>memory & storage>change default location to memory card..
Am i missing something?
Everything from this point goes into memory card..
This isnt rocket science..
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You're Joking Right ?
We've all seen that.
You inferred one could.. (As The Original Poster Drizzi Stated..) "MERGE" Internal & External Storage.
Otherwise known as: "Formatting Your External Card As Internal Storeage.
Which... (Again to use Drizzi's term because it's correct) would Merge and create *One* Gigantic Drive.
Not simply chosing Internal or External... :victory:
RaiderWill said:
You're Joking Right ?
We've all seen that.
You inferred one could.. (As The Original Poster Drizzi Stated..) "MERGE" Internal & External Storage.
Otherwise known as: "Formatting Your External Card As Internal Storeage.
Which... (Again to use Drizzi's term because it's correct) would Merge and create *One* Gigantic Drive.
Not simply chosing Internal or External... :victory:
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Ohh merging and using as one drive? Thats weird..
He just wants his apps to move into sd card or use memory card as the only source for every data storage..
Secondly why would anyone even want to use phone storage instead of memory card? Or even merge? Thats weird.. And i never saw any phone doing that ever in my life.. Samsung which gives transition the best to shift data from phone to storage also doesnt merge or use it as a whole.. Its either of them always..
Like i said earlier.. Theres no way to shift all the apps installed and data onto the memory card on honor 7x (only samsung can do that seamlessly) .. Since it was written on phone when it was the main storage at that time..
But when storage changed to memory card any new data will only be written on a memory card.. To free mobile storage.. Simply uninstall them and re install again to get it written on memory card this time..
To Conclude...
drizzl said:
I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage,I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?
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sid21 said:
Ohh merging and using as one drive? Thats weird..
He just wants his apps to move into sd card or use memory card as the only source for every data storage..
Secondly why would anyone even want to use phone storage instead of memory card? Or even merge? Thats weird.. And i never saw any phone doing that ever in my life.. Samsung which gives transition the best to shift data from phone to storage also doesnt merge or use it as a whole.. Its either of them always..
Like i said earlier.. Theres no way to shift all the apps installed and data onto the memory card on honor 7x (only samsung can do that seamlessly) .. Since it was written on phone when it was the main storage at that time..
But when storage changed to memory card any new data will only be written on a memory card.. To free mobile storage.. Simply uninstall them and re install again to get it written on memory card this time..
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I Pulled His Quote In As Well Sid..
As you can see my friend... He inquired about the "Old Fashioned Way" of doing it... Formatting External as Internal.
I understand you may not have seen this before.. so I am including a pic (see below) so you can see what it would look like in a settings menu that had this option.
The reason why one would want this option? Basically because of just what you said..
Only certain things will tranfer / store on the External drive..
If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive..
Think of it.. if you have a FAST SD-Card with 256 or even 128 gigs of storage.. you can Merge that with your 32 / 64 gigs of internal.. have no visible slowdown in performance by the naked eye.. (read/write scores may drop some if you care about such things.. ) and you have all.... this space... for movies , pics , ( porn.. :angel whatever..
That's what makes that option an inviting one..
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I Pulled His Quote In As Well Sid..
As you can see my friend... He inquired about the "Old Fashioned Way" of doing it... Formatting External as Internal.
I understand you may not have seen this before.. so I am including a pic (see below) so you can see what it would look like in a settings menu that had this option.
The reason why one would want this option? Basically because of just what you said..
Only certain things will tranfer / store on the External drive..
If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive..
Think of it.. if you have a FAST SD-Card with 256 or even 128 gigs of storage.. you can Merge that with your 32 / 64 gigs of internal.. have no visible slowdown in performance by the naked eye.. (read/write scores may drop some if you care about such things.. ) and you have all.... this space... for movies , pics , ( porn.. :angel whatever..
That's what makes that option an inviting one..
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How did you get the option to format as internal? I only have Eject and Format as options.
N/A...
drizzl said:
How did you get the option to format as internal? I only have Eject and Format as options.
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Sorry Drizzi...
That pic was for Sid's edification... that option does not exist for the Honor 7X..
RaiderWill said:
Sorry Drizzi...
That pic was for Sid's edification... that option does not exist for the Honor 7X..
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OK Thanks for the follow up anyway!
But...
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OK Thanks for the follow up anyway!
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Drizzi The Device Does Support OTG..
So that might be an additional option for you..
RaiderWill said:
I Pulled His Quote In As Well Sid..
As you can see my friend... He inquired about the "Old Fashioned Way" of doing it... Formatting External as Internal.
I understand you may not have seen this before.. so I am including a pic (see below) so you can see what it would look like in a settings menu that had this option.
The reason why one would want this option? Basically because of just what you said..
Only certain things will tranfer / store on the External drive..
If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive..
Think of it.. if you have a FAST SD-Card with 256 or even 128 gigs of storage.. you can Merge that with your 32 / 64 gigs of internal.. have no visible slowdown in performance by the naked eye.. (read/write scores may drop some if you care about such things.. ) and you have all.... this space... for movies , pics , ( porn.. :angel whatever..
That's what makes that option an inviting one..
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This technique is called adopted storage and is an AOSP feature since 7.0. I tried it also in my prior phone, but I would not recommend it any longer, even though it looks promising on the first sight. Unfortunately there are drawbacks:
- The technique behind is a daemon, that scans the internal storage and relocates larger file to the external card. You do not have any control which file gets relocated when. Nevertheless it is a transparent process.
- Since the data get copied asynchronously, copying large files to the device requires at least free space in the internal memory of the size of the largest new file. In case you are dealing with a number of video files, there might easily raise a storage size error message during copy even though your system tells you, that there should be enough memory available.
- The SDCard has to be prepared, which means, it has to get formatted in an encrypted way. Encrypted SDCards are the second best option out of a selection of two ... if you have an issue with it by whatever reason, there is no way to recover the data e.g. via a PC.
- If you have an issue with the card by whatever reason (occurs more often than you would expect, expecially when you are more often on low battery than expected) and since you have no control which data is located on that storage, you will have an unclear amount of corrupt data ... even if your "internal" storage (which is part of the bundle) may lead to some running apps, in worst case your available data is completely ruined.
- It requires newer custom recovery (AFAIK TWRP >= 3.1.x) to decrypt adopted storage.
- Last but not least: Even if you have an SD card with really fast read and write speed (usually known as U3), the real access speed (usually read speed) depends on several other facts like the HW interface to the sd card. In general it is much slower than access to the internal memory which I can confirm (e.g. by speed test apps).
So why would you want such an instable and performance impacting technology? On low-end phones with very little memory probably it would make sense, but the 7X has enough memory in any delivered option, regardles whether you take the smallest or the largest available sizing. In general it is a smartphone and not a NAS system in your pocket. So there is usually no need for the whole world in offline maps accompanied by 200k audiobooks and a dump of the whole music data from your preferred streaming service (even though it would be incredible cool).
Just my point of view ...
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drizzl said:
I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage,
I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive.
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RaiderWill said:
If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive..
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ZB2016 said:
This technique is called adopted storage and is an AOSP feature since 7.0. I tried it also in my prior phone, but I would not recommend it any longer, even though it looks promising on the first sight. Unfortunately there are drawbacks:
- The technique behind is a daemon, that scans the internal storage and relocates larger file to the external card. You do not have any control which file gets relocated when. Nevertheless it is a transparent process.
- Since the data get copied asynchronously, copying large files to the device requires at least free space in the internal memory of the size of the largest new file. In case you are dealing with a number of video files, there might easily raise a storage size error message during copy even though your system tells you, that there should be enough memory available.
- The SDCard has to be prepared, which means, it has to get formatted in an encrypted way. Encrypted SDCards are the second best option out of a selection of two ... if you have an issue with it by whatever reason, there is no way to recover the data e.g. via a PC.
- If you have an issue with the card by whatever reason (occurs more often than you would expect, expecially when you are more often on low battery than expected) and since you have no control which data is located on that storage, you will have an unclear amount of corrupt data ... even if your "internal" storage (which is part of the bundle) may lead to some running apps, in worst case your available data is completely ruined.
- It requires newer custom recovery (AFAIK TWRP >= 3.1.x) to decrypt adopted storage.
- Last but not least: Even if you have an SD card with really fast read and write speed (usually known as U3), the real access speed (usually read speed) depends on several other facts like the HW interface to the sd card. In general it is much slower than access to the internal memory which I can confirm (e.g. by speed test apps).
So why would you want such an instable and performance impacting technology? On low-end phones with very little memory probably it would make sense, but the 7X has enough memory in any delivered option, regardles whether you take the smallest or the largest available sizing. In general it is a smartphone and not a NAS system in your pocket. So there is usually no need for the whole world in offline maps accompanied by 200k audiobooks and a dump of the whole music data from your preferred streaming service (even though it would be incredible cool).
Just my point of view ...
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I'm Eh... Going To Step Aside On This Subject...
I'll let you 2 discuss the Finer Points.. Pros vs Cons etc... Enjoy. :angel:
RaiderWill said:
I'm Eh... Going To Step Aside On This Subject...
I'll let you 2 discuss the Finer Points.. Pros vs Cons etc... Enjoy. :angel:
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:crying:Why? I'd prefer more standpoints on it than just one or two, because it will give arguments about aspects, that are of interest for someone else. :good:
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ZB2016 said:
:crying:Why? I'd prefer more standpoints on it than just one or two, because it will give arguments about aspects, that are of interest for someone else. :good:
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Well Let's See...
Point 1) OP question was answered with a viable solution by Sid21.
Point 2) OP specific question was answered "Directly" by Raiderwill.
Point 3) Discussing the merits of Adopt Storage further based on how "You" personally feel about it for me, is pointless.
Point 4) I'm sure there are threads here on XDA that you can search out to continue why your point of view is relevant.
Point 5) I'm sure if the OP wants to continue a private discussion with you he knows how to contact you.
Well.. that's pretty much all "I" have to say about Adoptive Storage.
Now... if you want to start a thread about why you think Huawei is giving you false promises in regards to the EMUI 8.0 / OREO 8.0 / FACIAL RECOGNITION UNLOCK and PROJECT TREBLE updates... I'll be more than happy to indulge in your thread in regards to that conversation..
Because quite frankly... I disagree with you 100% in regards to the updates and in regards to rooting the 7X now.. it makes ZERO sense... and even you had to fork over money to fix your phone.. because Rooting got you in a hole...
Now, By All Means.. start a thread and let's discuss that.
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-oreo-emui-8-pro-9i-7x/
Hi there i am a honor 7x user the issue here is very critical suppose i am deleting a file of from my internal storage the file gets deleted but i dnt get the free space back like the internal storage is not being cleaned up
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Honor7x said:
Hi there i am a honor 7x user the issue here is very critical suppose i am deleting a file of from my internal storage the file gets deleted but i dnt get the free space back like the internal storage is not being cleaned up
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Sir.. Are You Saying You've Deleted System Files To Make More Space?
I hope this is not the case.
I hope.. you mean you deleted "Applications" and expected to get more space in return..
It's proportionately based... By that I mean, lets say you had a game installed that was 1.00 GB in size.. and you had 20 GB free.
If you uninstalled that 1.00 GB game.... you would now have 21 GB free..
Just in case you meant to say "RAM" and why have you not freed up more of it... People make the classic mistake thinking if they reomove every conceivable app from their device they are going to free up more RAM..
Not The Case.
RAM management will simply load something else into that allotted space...
Anyway (I digress) if you are still running stock (hopefully) all you have to do is preform a Factory Reset..:good: and you are right back where you started from.
If you are out of space.. I believe this device supports OTG.
Proper solution needed for same issue
Can someone pls give a solution for this problem asap