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[Q] HSPA+ and HSPDA Proof.

So here is my question. If you go to Settings > About Phone > Status > and then look under Mobile Network Type, it tells you which type of Network you are currently connected to.
I live in NYC and also in Washington, DC, both arees that should have patches of HSPA+, and I've never once seen my phone connect to anything higher than HSPDA.
My Question is, should it state HSPA+ in my Phone Status screen? And if so, I want proof by way of a screen shot that somebody has actually connected to HSPA+. I've had my G2 since a few days before it was released, and I check this almost everyday to see if my phone will ever display HSPA+ in the Mobile Network Type page in the settings.
Can anybody show me proof that they are on HSPA+? And I don't want to see speedtest results. Everyone claims they are on HSPA+ based on speedtest results. I want a screen shot showing this, IF it in fact does display HSPA+ under these settings when connected.
Sorry if I sound rude, I don't intend this at all, I have been wondering this for months, and have scoured the internet trying to get definitive information on this particular thing, yet to no avail.
I'm very satisfied with my phone, and in fact would recommend it to anyone in the market, I just want to see a screen shot that says HSPA+ in the settings, IF IT EVEN DOES SHOW THIS, that's all!! My phone's network connection is still pretty fast.

Because we all know the "H" could mean a number of things, it doesn't necesarily mean HSPA+ which is why T-Mobile can get away with displaying an "H" for a number of networks (not knocking T-Mobile at all, I'm a loyal subscriber).

If you consider HSPA+ to differ and to be a level above HSDPA or HSUPA, the G2 won't be able to reach it. That's because HSPA+ network can be considered multiple cell HSPA (HSPA = HSDPA & HSUPA) and HSDPA maximum throughput is 14Mb/s. That was the advertised maximum capability of the phone. Most HSPA towers (non-plus) have throughput of 2, 3, 5, 7Mbps anyway, and it's unlikely that the network differentiates between HSPA+ and HSPA. If you find yourself in an HSPA+ cell, your speeds should go as high as 14Mbps, but you may not know if it's HSDPA at it's max or HSPA+ running at a higher speed.

High Speed Packet Access (HSPA) [1] is a amalgamation of two mobile telephony protocols, High Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) and High Speed Uplink Packet Access (HSUPA), that extends and improves the performance of existing WCDMA protocols. A further standard, Evolved HSPA (also known as HSPA+), was released late in 2008 with subsequent adoption worldwide beginning in 2010... so another words hspa and hspa+ is the same thing.. but when your closer to a "4g " tower of course your internet speeds will respond faster.. to know what kind of internet your on.. go to menu, settings, about phone, than network
sent from t-mobile g2 using HTC sense

H+ or 3G what is the difference?

every time i browse the net on my Note 2 I'm getting "H+" on the status bar in my area while at the same time whenever i call someone i get 3G at the same place, so what is the difference between them? which is better? sorry if it is a noob quastion

H+ is for HSDPA+, which delivers much higher speeds than normal 3G. Technically it is an upgraded 3G network. so if you have H+ then your network is faster than if you get only 3G. and H+ is used only for data download. so you will not see it in normal voice calls.
Based on your network, Note II can handle H+ speeds up to 42Mbps. 3G is only 384kbps.

tmrbaset said:
H+ is for HSDPA+, which delivers much higher speeds than normal 3G. Technically it is an upgraded 3G network. so if you have H+ then your network is faster than if you get only 3G. and H+ is used only for data download. so you will not see it in normal voice calls.
Based on your network, Note II can handle H+ speeds up to 42Mbps. 3G is only 384kbps.
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thanks alot man for the explanation i thought it is something weaker than 3g, i appreciate your answer :good:

Here for the diff speeds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639115
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium

Capable of 42Mbps!? I can't imagine anyone ever gets anywhere near that. I only get 35Mbps on my home computer with cable internet.
With H+ in my area, I generally get somewhere around 3Mbps maybe a little higher.
What is the max speed of LTE supposed to be?
Now that I know my phone is capable of 42Mbps (which is faster then my home connection), I really have no problem with not having an LTE phone. Especially since the max speed is probably as probable as seeing a unicorn.

Not to put a damper on it, but H+ doesnt mean DCHSPA as my N7100 shows that symbol and its not DCHSPA capable.

kebabs said:
Not to put a damper on it, but H+ doesnt mean DCHSPA as my N7100 shows that symbol and its not DCHSPA capable.
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That's because H+ means HSPA+. Unless that's what DCHSPA is, but I've never heard it called that before. Even then, are you sure about that? HSPA+ is listed in the specs for this phone.

HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
H+ is faster than 3g without a doubt
DCHSDPA is known as dual channel ie three uk are dishing it out but us n7100 owners nothing to get excited over its not supported..
Mainly only lte models have dchsdpa only a couple of non lte devices have it
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E_Goldstein said:
HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
H+ is faster than 3g without a doubt
DCHSDPA is known as dual channel ie three uk are dishing it out but us n7100 owners nothing to get excited over its not supported..
Mainly only lte models have dchsdpa only a couple of non lte devices have it
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Well, that sort of clears it up. (Although I don't fully get it, I sorta do) Not like it really matters though. No one is going to get anywhere close to what those technologies are capable of anyways. If they ever do, we will probably all be on our next device anyways(probably more like a few devices down the road).

[Q] What is the difference between H+ and H on T-Mobile?

I have the Note II GT-N7100. This is the international version that doesn't have the 1700 spectrum that T-Mobile uses. However, they have been refarming their towers to transmit on the 1900 spectrum, and our area (NY metro) is already pretty much done.
Here is my question:
Sometimes I get H+ on my phone, at other times just H. Does this difference mean anything?
And if yes, what does it mean?

Both usin 3G
H - HSPDA
H+ - HSPDA+
it depends on area coverage, some place when you are in area have H+. H+ have somewhat faster data transfer.
in 3G network
3G - your device have no active data connection
H+ - data exchangge active.when you are in area where you have high transfer data capacity available
H - data exchange active. still using 3G but less speed.
In 2G network
E - it display edge

Will the T999L LTE version of the tmob s3 still support HSPA+?

When tmob releases the T999L will it still support HSPA+ and will you be able to switch between the two? It would be nice in case you are in an area where one is a stronger signal than the other or LTE uses too much battery and you want to use HSPA+ instead. Thanks.

I believe so. T-Mobile is pushing a "Dual 4G" premise where both LTE and HSPA+ serve as 4G. So HSPA+ will be a fall back in most metropolitan areas. I live in a big city, so I expect LTE earlier than most people. HSPA+ as a fallback is not bad for me since I can get about 12-16 mbps for download speeds, which is great With LTE, I expect around 25 mbps.

data connection

well i have just received my new m8, great phone, but my data speed is very poor!! i am only getting H
i am on EE we do have 4g in my area, and my old iphone 5 connected at 3g no problem..
any ideas???
thanks
paul

What do you mean by "only getting H"? Is your data speed actually slower than your iPhone or are you just displeased with the icon?

BenPope said:
What do you mean by "only getting H"? Is your data speed actually slower than your iPhone or are you just displeased with the icon?
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not displeased with the icon, they could put a flying pig on the display and it wouldnt bother me.
i was just assuming that i was getting the lower data speed ( less than 3g) but i have now done a speed test ( dont know why i didnt do it earlier)
and i am geting just under 5mbps.
what does the H indicate?
thanks
paul

paulcfc said:
not displeased with the icon, they could put a flying pig on the display and it wouldnt bother me.
i was just assuming that i was getting the lower data speed ( less than 3g) but i have now done a speed test ( dont know why i didnt do it earlier)
and i am geting just under 5mbps.
what does the H indicate?
thanks
paul
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G stands for GPRS and is the slowest standard, used in the GSM network (2G).
E is an extension of GPRS, it is called EDGE and it is correspondingly a little faster, but still uses the old GSM network (2G).
3G stands for UMTS and is the successor to the GSM network and is faster.
H and H+ stand for HSPA and HSPA+. Both use the UMTS network, where H is faster than 3G and H+ is faster than H.
4G stands for LTE and is the fastest.
Until 4G is widespread it will be flakey. Even if I go to Manchester which has allegedly good 4G coverage, it dips between H / H+ and 4G. If I walk into a building it almost always drops a level.

grentuu said:
G stands for GPRS and is the slowest standard, used in the GSM network (2G).
E is an extension of GPRS, it is called EDGE and it is correspondingly a little faster, but still uses the old GSM network (2G).
3G stands for UMTS and is the successor to the GSM network and is faster.
H and H+ stand for HSPA and HSPA+. Both use the UMTS network, where H is faster than 3G and H+ is faster than H.
4G stands for LTE and is the fastest.
Until 4G is widespread it will be flakey. Even if I go to Manchester which has allegedly good 4G coverage, it dips between H / H+ and 4G. If I walk into a building it almost always drops a level.
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great , thanks for that .
for whatever reason, i was thinking that H was slower than 3G

paulcfc said:
great , thanks for that .
for whatever reason, i was thinking that H was slower than 3G
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No problem.... can't believe I just helped a CFC fan