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When the battery life of a phone like this goes bad is it a sudden thing? Or does it gradually hold less charge?
I've been using this phone for the best part of 16months with excellent battery life lasting a week with little use. Now all of a sudden it dies EVERY day when I've charged it the night before.
It doesn't even make it through a day at work if I don't even use it at all. No texting, phoning email or anything and it still dies fast.
It can be sat in my pocket all day and then I come to look at it at 6pm and it's off because the battery ran out again
This normal when the batteries start getting a bit old? I thought it would be more gradual, literally 3 days ago it went like this over night.
Anyone else have this problem?
check power settings to see if your auto backlight/power off settings haven't magically been disabled.
Had the exact same problem. Have followed all suggestions available-
making sure wif-fi/bluetooth off
Applications off
internet optimised
battery left to drain, phone reset and new battery fully charged before turnign back on
and several other procedures. 3 new batterys tried including 1 200o battery.
No luck with anything. i get about 6 hours if i dont keep toppoing up. Have to carry a spare battery everywhere.
Has anyone any solutions!!!!????????????
If you are having the issue even with a brand new battery I'm going to guess something's gone wrong with your device.
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If you are having the issue even with a brand new battery I'm going to guess something's gone wrong with your device.
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Not necessarily.
2OP - did you do a hard reset ? If not, do that, do not load any applications, do not change any settings other than the ActiveSync "fake server" trick (which assume you did already), and see if you still have a problem.
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When the battery life of a phone like this goes bad is it a sudden thing? Or does it gradually hold less charge?
I've been using this phone for the best part of 16months with excellent battery life lasting a week with little use. Now all of a sudden it dies EVERY day when I've charged it the night before.
It doesn't even make it through a day at work if I don't even use it at all. No texting, phoning email or anything and it still dies fast.
It can be sat in my pocket all day and then I come to look at it at 6pm and it's off because the battery ran out again
This normal when the batteries start getting a bit old? I thought it would be more gradual, literally 3 days ago it went like this over night.
Anyone else have this problem?
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For 16months, i think you made the best of your battery life, i think it would be best to replace it as after 400 charge cycles, the battery deteriorates
One other thing I've noticed is that when the battery does run out, the clock has to be re-setup every time. I never had to do this when my phone ran out before. I'm wondering if this is indicative of a probelm other than just a shabby battery.
Thanks,
G
My tilt 2 had the USB problem (where it (seemingly) charges fine, but it cannot sync).
I noticed that the battery that could go for 2 days with very light use, would not go through more than 1/2 a day even when I don't even touch the phone.
I woud try to plug the phone into a computer via a USB cable and see if the computer recognizes the device.
My phone was under warranty, so when the replacement came, I put in the "dead" battery (according to my defective tilt2), and it listed 70% on the replacement phone.
Anyway, it does sound like you are having the same problem, because you have tried new batteries. So if you try syncing with USB and see if you have the same problem.
All, I seem to be having the same issue with a Sprint TP2. I had the first one replaced thinking it was the device. The replacement arrived and had the same issue. I took it into one of there stores and had the battery replaced. No dice. The battery drains 10% of it's power every 20 minutes, that is with nothing running and me not messing with it. I tried different ROM's thinking that would help. I installed NRG Dinik, GrooveROM, NEO_cht 2018, and Ana CHT. The issue still remains. Yesterday I came across a thread suggesting that I drain the battery completely, the recharge for 5 minutes, powering on and then clearing the storage(Hard reset while the phone is on). Phone charge seemed a little stable in the morning for the first hour, then returned to it's annoying 10% drain every 20 minutes. Any other suggestions?
Left out this folowing information, thought it might be relevant. Also had my charger replaced. Another thing I noticed with this behavior is that the contacts duplicate themselves every so often...
Go to Settings > Sound & Display. Check that the following are turned off:
Quiet ring on pickup
Pocket Mode
I played around with these for awhile and found that either of them, when turned on, will kill the battery in just a few hours.
Also, if you have a Hotmail account set up on it, make sure that it is not set to synchronize "as items arrive." Although you can get away with this setting for Exchange, Hotmail will kill the battery as fast as the above two settings.
3G Search Causes Battery Degradation
Hi,
I wonder if this might help? Maybe I am too late on this. But I recently was having trouble with the very same sudden poor battery issue after using my HTC Rhodium for more than a year with excellent battery life. At the same time I noticed that I was having trouble staying on my cell phone network, also suddenly. This had not been a problem before. Reading the forums in another area discussing signal issues someone pointed to the existence of "CMBandSwitch.exe" which lives in the Windows folder on a standard ROM. When you run this you can switch from "Auto" mode where the phone polls all available network bands and instead have the phone work only on the GSM band. You can also specify your frequency if you wish. When I did this I solved both problems at the same time. My phone once again was able to hold the network just fine and my battery life returned to normal.
I am in Europe on an extended assignment and I can only think that the local network is undergoing some changes that has their 3G signal weak which was causing my phone to work harder at staying attached and therefore creating both poor connectivity and poor battery life.
I hope this will help you.
Hello Everyone,
I know this has been talked about before, but none of the so far solutions have worked.
So as the title says, my SGS3 battery barely lasts 6-8 hours.
The main causes of this I have seen is either due to the high battery consumption of the Andriod OS or Andriod System. Usually however, the Andriod OS takes up to 30-50% battery consumption.
And I know how everyone is saying pretty much turn everything off your phone besides the cell reception and you'll get your desired battery life.
This is not the case, I tried taking off wifi, 4G, all syncs, google now, and after already performing a factory reset once and a hard reset once, I pretty much only have whatsapp on my phone..
So my andriod version is 4.1.1. ANd after the first firmware reset, I am unable to even switch off google now and it gives me an error that there is an error with my network connection. Even if I switch on/off in any sequence or series all my communication methods.
Anyways, the main issue I have been seeing after looking at the battery consumption, the Andriod OS takes up all my battery consumption and when looking at the graph, I see that my phone is almost never going to sleep. I have seen other people's galaxy S3 and I've seen their away status and its pretty much more black than blue (black indicating that its been asleep).
So its clear that the case of my battery drain is due to my phone almost never going to sleep. And the result of that is due to the high levels of Andriod OS usage.
And I have see a bunch of other galaxy s3 battery consumptions, and both the Andriod OS and Andriod system are always well below 10%, with the highest consumption being the Screen of 23% usually.
And I know for a fact, its none of my downloaded apps as the phone is pretty much stock. And its not wifi or screen brightness or any of that, because when I had my iPhone 4, I pretty much had everything open, with my phone doing all kinds of stuff and it lasts all day.
As for my current phone, I barely sent one or two whatsapp messages a day before the phone dies out..
And to illustrate the even greater extent of the battery drain. During my break today, I walked to the telus store (about 10 minutes to get there), I have 15% charge. By the time I got to the store, I had 7%.
Anyways, after taking the phone to the telus store, they told me to do a firmware reset, which i Already did with no avail. Then they suggested to get a new battery, which I ordered from them. However, it is clearly not the issue.
They won't let me even send the phone for repairs until I actually try replacing the battery, which I will only get 2 weeks from now.
Any ideas on what to do?
I've pretty much tried everything posted on most websites on how to resolve this issue and its not something to do with my settings or any of that. Its the phone software (rather than hardware) that is giving me high battery usage.
On top of that, the lower part of my backside of my phone is warming up when I just use my phone for a few minutes to message. To be clear, the battery is on the middle half of the phone. So its probably my CPU warming up to the texting that I am doing that is already adding to the Andriod OS high usage for some reason.
The phone is only 4 months old. And resetting the firmware puts it back to version 4.1.1
Also, Just connecting the phone to wifi over night with 100% charge before I went to bed, I woke up 8 hours later with 70% charge.
Nothing open, caches cleared. Almost every useless app off.
Sorry, I would post photos of it, however, my phone is currently dead and I am fully charging it before performing a full firmware reset (hard reset)
Please advise..
Thank you,
After using the original Note, I decided I couldn't live with the battery life and decided to upgrade to the Note 2 last christmas. I was fully satisfied, and frequently got between 6 to 7h of screen time.
Sadly, since early june, I barely get half of that under normal usage (2-3 hours), and I've never been able to go a day without charging the phone. The phone is rooted but still on Rogers Canada's original firmware with the original Samsung battery.
I'm no novice to android, but I've run out of ideas. Is it normal for a battery to start loosing it's capacity after around 120 to 150 charging cycles?
1) I thought it might be related to my external microsd, because I started getting error messages that I was disconnecting, and the mediascanner process was running for an abnormally long time. I wiped the card, and the errors persisted. Finally, I removed it altogether and the mediascanner battery drain stoppped, but overall battery life didn't get any better
2) I comptetelly wiped the phone and started from scratch, reinstalling everything from the market. No change.
3) I've been checking per app battery usage with BetterBatteryStats, and I occasionnally get one misbehaving app that keeps the phone awake, so I installed Greenify to prevent a few of them from gobbling up resources. That's helped a lot, at least on BetterBatteryStats, but still the phone doesn't last longer. There is no more obviously abnormal app anymore.
4) I tough it might be related to the fact that I redirected all my work email to gmail, so I set it to manual mode, but it hasn't helped.
5) I did notice that the cpu stays either in deep sleep or at 1,1 ghz, almost without using the other speeds. I don't know that I can do anything about that with the stock kernel.
Is there something else I could be checking? The phone worked great for six months without gooing through all of that stuff, so the only thing I can think of is a hardware issue. Did I get a faulty battery?
Thanks for your insights.
Nothing lasts forever; buy a new battery
hmmm the 1.1ghz thing makes it seem like it could be a deeper issue, there is no reason it should be sticking at a frequency that high.. I would personally try to flash the stock rom fresh with odin.
That would be your issue, the high frequency, not the battery itself imo
wase4711 said:
Nothing lasts forever; buy a new battery
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Diomonds do
please use spell check..
d-i-a-m-o-n-d-s.....:victory:
Lol
They don't last forever if they had a beginning. . .ooooh.
reminds me of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio_paradox
I notice thst on mine im loosing juice quick when my LTE radio is on and I'm in poor coverage area. Switching to 4g/3g/2g only helps a lot. On day when I take few pics my battery takes a hit because all pictures backup performed by dropbox etc
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Hey guys,
after dropping my beloved Nexus 4 to the concrete floor in May, I bought a new S4 mini in the electronic market because of it's decent size and all the fuzz about having a very good price-performance-ratio.
After a few weeks I already was fairly disappointed.
On an average work day (without WiFi) and little use (~30min OSD) the battery wouldn't last a full day. I tried the usual things like turning off GPS, bluetooth and using Wifi whenever possible (turning it off, when not in range), etc. I also used the App greenify which boosted my deepsleep in Wakelock Detector to stable 85+%.
When using GMaps/navigation my phone is getting hot (~50°C) and battery is drained within minutes. When trying to navigate out of the city (<15min navigation) one day my phone was discharged within 3 hours after a full charge. I got Wakelock Detector, Better Battery Stats and Battery Monitor Widget installed.
The only thing I found out, that when I am connected to Wifi the drain is a lot lower 1-2%/hour compared to when I am using 3G/H+ which results in 7-15%/hour (both when not using the phone), although there is no problem with signal quality. Recently my phone started to bottoming out rly hard when hitting the 20% mark. From there I can watch the battery dropping to 0% within a few minutes.
Things I tried so far:
- turning off features that are not in use (GPS, bluetooth, Wifi when not in range)
- make sure phone gets into deep sleep/greenify apps
- recalibrate akku
- reduce brightness & disable auto-brightness
Setup:
GT-I9195 bought in May 2015 from electronic market chain
CM 12.1 (Android 5.1.1, serranoltexx)
Standard CM Kernel
Baseband I9195XXUBML4
I can provide Screenshots from BMW, WD and BBS. Any ideas how to solve this or what else I could do?
Probably you should use something like better battery stats, to check
- if a service is going mad, then turn it off with disable service to test (most times happens with unclean flash)
- if you have an app with wakelocks
If you can't find anything that way, might be a hardware fault.
Personally if I came across this problem I would return the phone to stock Android and do some tests, see if the same happens again. CM12.1 can have issues across different same model phones. Try the Samsung Phone Info app to see how old your phone is. I'm guessing it was second hand? Some older revisions of the Mini had battery problems. Maybe a new battery is needed? Maybe.. As for the battery draining 20%-0% in minutes I have also suffered this on a brand new March 2015 device. Not all the time though it only happens with randomly once a week. But I put that down to the battery not been fully calibrated and then drained and recharged over the next 3 4 days, as I use a spare battery and swap out the batteries regularly which means my battery is very rarely calibrated.
All that said though I can easily get through an entire day if not 2. And using stock I'm able to get 4 and a half hours on average every time, maybe 4 hours of screen on time when using 3G a lot and GPS etc.
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Hey guys,
When using GMaps/navigation my phone is getting hot (~50°C) and battery is drained within minutes. When trying to navigate out of the city (<15min navigation) one day my phone was discharged within 3 hours after a full charge. I got Wakelock Detector, Better Battery Stats and Battery Monitor Widget installed.
The only thing I found out, that when I am connected to Wifi the drain is a lot lower 1-2%/hour compared to when I am using 3G/H+ which results in 7-15%/hour (both when not using the phone), although there is no problem with signal quality. Recently my phone started to bottoming out rly hard when hitting the 20% mark. From there I can watch the battery dropping to 0% within a few minutes.
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I have had the same problem as you.
I return twice my phone to vendor. But they could do anything.
I solved it with undervolting and underclocking my phone (only the low frequency).
I read from someone, you can undervolting 150 millivolt.
My experience, is undervolting 125 milivolt. and underclocking the low frequency at the minimum.
You didn't feel any difference, behalves that the phone is cooler and battery live is better.
My WiFi and Bluetooth are always on. I don't have to recharge my phone during the day.
It is so effective en transparent that I don't understand why Samsung didn't do it natively.
Hey,
I tried to apply some of your advice and flashed the newest stock rom for S4 Mini (Kitkat ...COE4).
In that process I recognized that the Baseband is not updated by CM and that the one that was installed when I bought it was fairly old (from 2013). Do you think that this might be part of the problem? (I sort of hate the Samsung Rom)
This week when working and not having Wifi all day, I managed to get 2h of SOT and still had around 25% left which I couldnt have gotten before imo. I only lose 1-4% per hour when the phone is not used. But still thats not pretty good, when ur saying you can get 4h with GPS and everything. I also didnt use GPS. And today when I restarted my phone it just went from 40-ish % to 15% without any reason. Any more ideas?
I installed BetterBatteryStats today and will try to give some more insight the next days. Wakelock detector said that I had 85% deep sleep (timeframe 1 day 2 hours).
Try the Samsung Phone Info app to see how old your phone is. I'm guessing it was second hand? Some older revisions of the Mini had battery problems. Maybe a new battery is needed?
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No I bought it new from a electronic store (Media Markt). The app says that is was made on Oct 19th 2014 in Vietnam and that it is original/not refurbished.
How much do you gain by undervolting (SOT or % per hour when idle)?
How do you do it?
maybe the best way is to downgrade by flashing CM11 for example ...
(another way with stock + Alexax kernel + own debloat&freeze ... )
I have the same consumption problem with Resurection Remix LP too ..... very strange !
Lollipop is supposed to be less angry than Android 4.X.X ... but it seem have problem somewhere for our S4-mini sources maybe ,i don't know ...
This night I did some BBS tests:
Setup:
Stock Rom I previously installed (see posts above)
charged phone during evening
set up custom timepoint before I went to sleep
WLAN disabled
all apps greenyfied except those I deemed significant that they keep running (Whatsapp, calendar, Swiftkey, BBS, BMW, etc). Forgot newly installed app hoomn.
I had to upload the logfile to pastebin because it was too long for the xda forum: pastebin.ca/3256568 (I am not allowed to post URLs, sorry)
I lost 14% of battery during 9hrs (-1,6%/h). That's probably not too bad?
93% deep sleep, 33min awake time
Weird things I discovered/things I did not understand:
- negative Voltage loss?
- Wifi runtime 100% although I disabled it
- dominant wakelocks (count > 100, all of them < 30s): Alarm Manager, RILJ1, *net_scheduler*, GCM_CONN, ContextManagerWakeLock, Event Log Service, AlarmManager (com.sec.spp.push.Samsung Push Service), SyncLoopWakeLock, GCM_HB_ALARM
- dominant KWLs (count > 100): ril-fd (25min), bam_dmux_wakelock (13min), radio-interface (7min), PowerManagerService.WakeLocks (3min), mmc1_detect (1min), alarm_rtc, alarm, sec-charger-monitor, smdcntl0, pm8921_soc_lock, power-supply, KeyEvents, smsm_snapshot, qmuxd_port_wl_0, qmuxd_port_wl_1, smdcntl1, mmc0_detect
- Alarms (>20): ccc71.bmw (Battery Monitor Widget), android, com.google.android.gms, com.sec.spp.push
any ideas/assessments?
I have a 2 year old S4 Mini (GT19195), currently running latest stable CM 13.
The phone is working fine except for the occasional (once a week or 2) unexplained battery drain.
With my fairly light daily use, the battery is lasting over 2 days. <And can usually run 4 or more hours screen on.> However, in the last few months, at random times (even with phone asleep - screen off for > 10 min, so presumably in doze), the phone will heat up, and battery will drop 5-10% per minute. After the phone shuts off from dead battery, recharging and restarting the phone will return things to normal, until the next time.
During these episodes, the phone behaved normally, I did not notice any lag on waking up the phone, switching/opening apps, etc. The battery meter page showed no unusual process using the battery (none of the process actually showed any increase in % battery use); except for the battery life dropping off a cliff as I watch. <I noted that the battery usage stat never adds up to 100% even in normal use ... It might show 10% screen, 5% Android, etc, but all that only adds up to 50% or so from full charge to when the battery is near dead.>
Anyone seen this before? Is this a sign of an ailing battery, or something else? Can this be a software problem - like something running away in the background? <Of note is that this happened once when I had completely wiped the phone and had the fresh install of CM 13 + Gapps (micro) ... so if this is software, it would be something in stock Android, rather than a 3rd party app.>
Thanks for reading & responding.
@JohnSoong
This sounds like the processor is stuck on max frequency. Either it is an app(s) playing up or some other process that is keeping the CPU working when it should sleep.
The first thing I would do is install BetterBatteryStats app or something similar to see what is keeping the device awake. You could also try to grab a logcat, but you would need to catch the incident and either plug into a pc with adb or run an app like catlog
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I have a 2 year old S4 Mini (GT19195), currently running latest stable CM 13.
The phone is working fine except for the occasional (once a week or 2) unexplained battery drain.
With my fairly light daily use, the battery is lasting over 2 days. <And can usually run 4 or more hours screen on.> However, in the last few months, at random times (even with phone asleep - screen off for > 10 min, so presumably in doze), the phone will heat up, and battery will drop 5-10% per minute. After the phone shuts off from dead battery, recharging and restarting the phone will return things to normal, until the next time.
During these episodes, the phone behaved normally, I did not notice any lag on waking up the phone, switching/opening apps, etc. The battery meter page showed no unusual process using the battery (none of the process actually showed any increase in % battery use); except for the battery life dropping off a cliff as I watch. <I noted that the battery usage stat never adds up to 100% even in normal use ... It might show 10% screen, 5% Android, etc, but all that only adds up to 50% or so from full charge to when the battery is near dead.>
Anyone seen this before? Is this a sign of an ailing battery, or something else? Can this be a software problem - like something running away in the background? <Of note is that this happened once when I had completely wiped the phone and had the fresh install of CM 13 + Gapps (micro) ... so if this is software, it would be something in stock Android, rather than a 3rd party app.>
Thanks for reading & responding.
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That sounds like an issue I've had for several months, also running CM13 (Official) nightlies & Open GApps micro, unfortunately I've never had the time investigate (well I did once but it worked fine, I couldn't recreate the problem). It is currently happening less than once a week so not a major issue for me.
I've noticed several times that the phone felt hot, I've then used the Trepn profiler app, it would show the web browser running at 30-50% cpu constantly, so stuck as per @noppy22, though not at 100%. I have tried all the major browsers and they have all done it at some point, also most have crashed at some point, which I suspect may be related. Normally just the browser app crashed but yesterday using Chrome the phone FC and rebooted itself. Crashes seem to happen when I touch screen or scroll (though one may not have been when touching). Also XDA app crashed (1st time) when scrolling a couple of weeks ago, so probably not just browser issue on some sites as I thought previously, but might be unrelated. The stock battery meter did not show particularly high battery usage by browsers, though were a little elevated in % terms but hard to tell due to different usage patterns and not checking when things are good! I have noticed a bit of lag, which now makes we run trepn, if it shows high than expected usage by an app I close the app, which fixes it even if I go back to the same web page. This morning I woke up and my phone was off, I put it in my night-time profile (wifi & data off) that normally only uses a few % overnight but last night it must have used more than 30% of battery that was left, first time this has happened.
The other thing to consider is how good is your battery? At 2yrs old it could be tired if it's had a hard life (though yours maybe not) or you have allowed it to get very hot eg I did one trip using gps nav with phone mounted in windscreen cradle driving direct into the Aussie sun when my battery was about 2.5yrs old, thinking back I now think this was when I first noticed my battery was really dropping of quickly when around ~40% charge (though it was faster with more charge remaining also than my new battery, I would say), so think I the high temp the phone got to that day affected the battery. I think 4hrs of screen on time may be marginal, I was only getting about 3 to 3.5 when my battery dropped off fast, my new battery is giving me 6hrs SOT (mostly using browser app), so possibly you just need a new battery as only one other user has reported high cpu usage like I have.
Battery stats not adding up to 100% is normal.
I've just installed BetterBatteryStats, so I'll give it a week of so and see if it catches anything. So far nothing unusual in the stats.
I am leaning towards this being a hardware issue, likely the battery. Since the phone responded fairly normally during the overheat & battery drain episodes, this does not seem to me an app taking over the CPU. If the CPU was occupied by an app, shouldn't everything else be slowed down?
I have so far noticed no particular pattern to these episodes, and I cannot reproduce it at will. It is infrequent enough for now that I can live with it (although an unexpected dead battery is annoying.) I will see if the monitoring app pick up anything.
Hey guys,
Maybe you have to try to flash your stock or custom kernel again.
Thats probably the problem.
Xheers
When I got mine a few years ago the media process kept getting stuck and overheating/draining my phone and even a reboot wouldnt fix it. I found out because I was using the system panel app and monitoring cpu of system processes. I ditched and deleted the gallery app (it was trying to create thumbnails for 100+gb of photos and videos) for quick pic v.4.5.2 on every phone I've used ever since and haven't look back.