Hi, today I went to a handphone shop and compared the contrast for my current phone LT28H and a brand new display set of lt28h at the shop. I found out that my phone's contrast has dropped, the blacks is not as good as the new set. In fact the contrast has dropped over the months. Does any one has this problem? I can confirm that the contrast has dropped, I used sony's first stock wallpaper, with the trees sunset.
finoqq84 said:
Hi, today I went to a handphone shop and compared the contrast for my current phone LT28H and a brand new display set of lt28h at the shop. I found out that my phone's contrast has dropped, the blacks is not as good as the new set. In fact the contrast has dropped over the months. Does any one has this problem? I can confirm that the contrast has dropped, I used sony's first stock wallpaper, with the trees sunset.
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you do realize the store model has its brightness set to max? of course its going to look better than your own...
finoqq84 said:
Hi, today I went to a handphone shop and compared the contrast for my current phone LT28H and a brand new display set of lt28h at the shop. I found out that my phone's contrast has dropped, the blacks is not as good as the new set. In fact the contrast has dropped over the months. Does any one has this problem? I can confirm that the contrast has dropped, I used sony's first stock wallpaper, with the trees sunset.
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Dude its not an amoled. There is no way the contrast has dropped over the months unless the backlight is going out. Make sure to check the brightness levels on each unit.
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Sadly to say that both my phones and the shop's has maximum brightness. If you said that there is no way contrast will drop, most problebly there is 3 reasons,
I have installed the BE2 MOD that may mess up with the contrast
I have installed the Xperia Home Mod with xperia home preferences
Or lastly, different firmware as the one in the shop.
Trust me, its ture that the contrast has dropped, I double checked quite a number of times.
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Hi, today I went to a handphone shop and compared the contrast for my current phone LT28H and a brand new display set of lt28h at the shop. I found out that my phone's contrast has dropped, the blacks is not as good as the new set. In fact the contrast has dropped over the months. Does any one has this problem? I can confirm that the contrast has dropped, I used sony's first stock wallpaper, with the trees sunset.
I read lots of bad reviews on ZL's LCD (viewing angle, washed out color..etc)
I switched from Galaxy S3 to ZL a week ago. S3 had been a decent phone, smooth, lots of custom roms
(of course everyone uses S3..many developers)
I am a photographer and have duel monitor setting with 2560 x 1440 S-IPS panels, I use Spyder 4 pro to calibrate displays
(very sensitive to accurate and consistent color)
AMOLED was too blue and red is too much red , made my eyes tired
I agree with ppl saying ZL and Z's LCD screen has really poor viewing angle.
My girl friend actually preferred S3 because that reason.
(we often watch youtube video on S3 and it was fine)
So, basically ZL's screen is only visible for me
(cannot share with my girl friend cause of poor viewing angle) and made us very disappointed.
However, assuming viewing angle is alright, I love the accuracy of color on the screen.
White balance is good (we can even calibrate it).
I will let the picture explain. Default setting,
same browser (white background), and same bright level.
sorry for bad English, it's not my first language.
I agree! Give me LCD any day over the over saturated screen that is AMOLED. However I don't get why you included a pic of the back of both phones
Oh actually I didn't mean it.
Tried to delete the 2nd pic but xda didn't allow me(guess because i am new here )
I also wonder if the viewing angle problem is due to its pre applied screen protector.(some films often make viewing angle very limited ) anyone tried to remove the film?
(Of course hopefully sony logo will go away with the film..)
Sent from my C6503 using xda premium
AFAIK the Sony logo is in the glass unlike on the Z where it's on the shatter proof film. I have yet to remove it though
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Oh actually I didn't mean it.
Tried to delete the 2nd pic but xda didn't allow me(guess because i am new here )
I also wonder if the viewing angle problem is due to its pre applied screen protector.(some films often make viewing angle very limited ) anyone tried to remove the film?
(Of course hopefully sony logo will go away with the film..)
Sent from my C6503 using xda premium
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Sony logo does not go away with the pre applied SP. And FWIW, I dont think Sony would put something that makes the screen look worse. I think you mean a privacy SP. They dont make the screen look washed out, just darken them when looked at from an angle.
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Sony logo does not go away with the pre applied SP. And FWIW, I dont think Sony would put something that makes the screen look worse. I think you mean a privacy SP. They dont make the screen look washed out, just darken them when looked at from an angle.
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yeh. I meant that privacy SP.So, I thought Sony used to have decent displays (I had Sony's z-series long ago and it had a great LCD..).
just still do not understand why sony did not put IPS level display on their flagships..
anyhow, I will be OK with that except when the phone is on my desk and want to check a notification without grabbing it.
Hello,
I'm very interested in buying an unlocked ZL, but the only thing that has me thinking twice is the display. Almost every review I've read mentions that the ZL has terrible viewing angles, and the contrast isn't very good.
I'm coming from a Nexus 4, and the viewing angles on it are great. The contrast isn't the best, but I'm not expecting AMOLED black levels here.
So, I just thought I'd check in here and hopefully get a response or two from people who actually own the phone. It's either this or Oppo Find 5, but this one will have tons more support. Thanks in advance!
Sent from my Wicked Fast Nexus 4
crazyjimbo said:
Hello,
I'm very interested in buying an unlocked ZL, but the only thing that has me thinking twice is the display. Almost every review I've read mentions that the ZL has terrible viewing angles, and the contrast isn't very good.
I'm coming from a Nexus 4, and the viewing angles on it are great. The contrast isn't the best, but I'm not expecting AMOLED black levels here.
So, I just thought I'd check in here and hopefully get a response or two from people who actually own the phone. It's either this or Oppo Find 5, but this one will have tons more support. Thanks in advance!
Sent from my Wicked Fast Nexus 4
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Why dont you try going through a few threads here? You'll have your answer.
Short answer: Viewing angles worse than N4 even though overall screen quality is much better. If you have a habit of looking at your phones obliquely, dont buy the ZL.
I just went to a Sony store to check it out in person, I really think the display is not bad at all. you should definitely go to the store to see it on person, I am planning to get it once it will be on sale this coming week.
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I got my zl 6506 for three days now
my old one is sony lt29i first time compare to my lt29i
it looks not very bright not colorfully but after couple days
it looks not bad at all I don't know how to say it but for me
I can accept and very good device
I have had mine for 3 weeks and I think the screen is great. Viewing angles are not great, but in my daily use and in my personal opinion the screen looks great. I don't look at my screen from odd angles so it is never an issue for me. Webpages and YouTube videos look fantastic
ah_hin said:
I just went to a Sony store to check it out in person, I really think the display is not bad at all. you should definitely go to the store to see it on person, I am planning to get it once it will be on sale this coming week.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda app-developers app
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It will be on sale? Where? The lowest price I've seen is about $577 on amazon.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Thanks everyone for the replies!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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Is display really as bad as people make it out to be
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I personally look the device at local Market, some of Bad issue with the screen is or May be we can say Bad-luck of Sony is that the Software UI Background Color is Grey & its not in Black color, it's the main reason the screen is not looking good & everyone judge it as a washout screen,If we change the theme of Xperia Z the Screen looking Good at All.so I think its same for ZL too.
So viewing Angle are still not good as in IPS panel are, but remember the viewing angle issue is raised in just the Case of Xperia Z/ZL Cause Sony using the same TFT panel in all of their Smartphones & since than No one Complain or Raise even about A bit for the viewing angles,
Xperia T/TX are using same TFT screen Panel but no one said in their reviews that the Viewing angles are Bad & are Washout.But there is actually need to Point out the issue because poeple Spend A lot of their Hard erning Money & in result they don't Get the good thing.
In the Same sense with our TVs Picture Settings in Our Family member Set it to Vivid, some one came(suppose Papa) and set it too Standard & you like Soft or any of Factory settings given in Picture Mode of your TV.
so the point is that the Everyone have their own Preference for the Colors & look on something.
Although we all Admit that Sony should Put the IPS Panel screen in their High End Smartphone, there is no Lag or Cons in Xperia ZL either than of slightly viewing angle, Because in Some situations we must have need for Viewing Angles(not all the time), In that condition the screen Fade out is really a shame for the owner of device as well Sony too because we having a High end smartphone and the screen is Fading in some conditional bloody angles.
I'm saying again there is no any Smartphone which is Perfect in All of their Aspects.
Htc having Heavy software,as well the Htc oneX+ is A issue with its wifi by manufacture, Some People Blaming Sony for their Late Updated Schdule for Software, But remember & check the Htc is having same thing with Software updating schedule, and Samsung having their own bloatwares type software in their mobiles. The Clean and Best nearly Stock Android you Can found in Xperia Z/ZL Smartphone in Form of Jelly Bean (4.1.2).
Also the App "screen Calibration" is putted in Xperia ZL for screen Adjustment by user Preference.
Mostly the chance is that the Latest Software May set all of the issue Regarding our Concerns.
Go in your Nearly Store & check for yourself the screen how its looking to you, leave that how its looking to another person.
God Bless you
I've been using the C6506 since April 3rd and I can honestly say that I *really* love the display. Calibrating with the WB app really helped and everything looks really sharp. I couldn't care less about the viewing angles, because honestly, how many times do I really need to look at the phone off-angle? I moved from an iPhone 5 for this phone and it's far, far better.
This issue is present in both sony models (xperia Z & ZL). I put my ZL side by side with my old at&t branded DUAL CORE galaxy s3, a nexus 4 (same exact processor), an iphone 5, and an at&t branded htc one.... my brand new crazy expensive ZL takes WAY longer to wake up from sleep then ALL OF THEM. Every one of these phones had a BIG LEAD over my phone. How is there not a thread about this already? When I saw my old GS3 woke up way faster I was sad.... but when I saw how fast the htc one screen woke up I was straight up embarrassed. What are the odds this issue will be resolved? Developers on this forum are very capable and willing to work hard but to an extent. With so much stiff competition I have to ask how many developers will invest their time into even looking into this issue. I have tried every rom/kernel available to me at the moment to no avail. I have tried changing every setting and even eliminated the lock screen... no change. I tried raising the min. cpu speed... nothing.
To make matters worse every single one of the phones I compared my ZL to had better viewing angles and a brighter screen then the POS screen sony decided to cheap out on and stick in this phone. WHAT IS THE POINT OF HIGH PPI IF I CANT SEE ANYTHING ON THE SCREEN UNLESS I HAVE MY PROTRACTOR OUT TO MAKE SURE IM LOOKING AT THE EXACT RIGHT ANGLE. Sony should give you a free protractor key chain with the purchase of this phone I heard about this in reviews but never took it seriously because I didnt realize the extent of the issue. If I look at my phone just slightly off angle the colors are washed out and if its sitting on the table and im looking down on it from my desk the screen is 50% washed out and some colors are muted.
I hear the htc one x had the same wake lag issues and it was resolved via a software update. I wonder if we will be so lucky....
Anyone have any idea or solution to get rid of or at the very least lessen this extremely irritable wake lag?? Let me know !!
My phone doesn't have this issue, the wakeup time is almost immediate and is faster or on par with the phones you mention. This has been tested out of the box and rooted/unlocked bootloader/custom ROM. As far as the viewing angles go, why don't you visit one of e the 3095809385092385028365275829 threads already talking about this?
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My phone doesn't have this issue, the wakeup time is almost immediate and is faster or on par with the phones you mention. This has been tested out of the box and rooted/unlocked bootloader/custom ROM. As far as the viewing angles go, why don't you visit one of e the 3095809385092385028365275829 threads already talking about this?
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REALLY? What model ZL are you using and what kernel and rom???? mine is the C6506 with an unlocked boot loader. Would it be possible for you to upload a comparison video with one of the aforementioned phones (or different ones of the same caliber) with a lock screen wake up test?? If you dont have a one to compare it to even a sample video of waking it up from deep sleep and also a regular wake up would be awesome. thanks in advance man I hope I can crack this problem
No such wake lag on my ZL (C6502) either. Stock rooted rom (.434) with locked BL. Screen wakes up almost instantaneously on mine (just like on my previous Xperia S). I did have a lag of about 2 sec while waking my Note2 (N7100) though. Didn't compare it to htc one or S4 but i'm sure it wouldn't be any laggier on my ZL (shall compare tomorrow when S4 arrives at stores locally here). Maybe you could upload a comparison video showing the said wake lag, if you can't then never mind. Btw, this issue seems specific to your device since nobody else here has any such complaints. So, try a factory reset, if already done then a repair using PCC/SUS. If all this doesn't work out then send it in for replacement under warranty!
About screen, I think ZL screen is stunning! It is very crisp & rather accurate to colours than say SAMOLED screens imo. I like it more than my previous Note2 screen, esp browsing webpages is like night n day! Text appears much crisper on ZL screen no matter how small it is! Viewing angles are never great on sony screens (but not too bad either), and I don't mind that, given the screen is second to none head on! If you judge the screen quality by the viewing angles (like bazillion reviewers out there) then i'm afraid Sony ZL is a wrong choice to begin with! Btw, I have no issues reading text, browsing web, viewing images/videos (with mBE2 on) with the ZL screen placed on table or bed beside me (from an angle of say 45 degrees to 135 degrees). There is a thread regarding it in the ZL general section too (many others in the XZ forums).
P.S: Having said that, I would love to see an ips panel on a sony smartphone!
you can close the thread I am the only one with the problem and IM returning this lemon I got to newegg for a full refund. I was trying to decide whether I wanted a refund or replacement and I put this thing next to my old dell streak that i bought for 220 bucks TWO YEARS AGO.... they both have 5 inch sceens... it was honestly pathetic. THE DISPLAYS LOOKED ALMOST THE SAME. No wonder the htc one threads in the xda forum have hundreds of thousand of views and the ZL doesnt have more then 10,000 in one thread. if your on the fence thinking about buying this phone... this is strictly my opinion but.... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT DO IT. god bless newegg, they waived the restocking fee because my phone was defective and im getting a full refund. My ZL may have sucked but you guys were a big help. Thanks for your input dudes, I would not have known my ZL was defective if it wasnt for your posts.
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No such wake lag on my ZL (C6502) either. Stock rooted rom (.434) with locked BL. Screen wakes up almost instantaneously on mine (just like on my previous Xperia S). I did have a lag of about 2 sec while waking my Note2 (N7100) though. Didn't compare it to htc one or S4 but i'm sure it wouldn't be any laggier on my ZL (shall compare tomorrow when S4 arrives at stores locally here). Maybe you could upload a comparison video showing the said wake lag, if you can't then never mind. Btw, this issue seems specific to your device since nobody else here has any such complaints. So, try a factory reset, if already done then a repair using PCC/SUS. If all this doesn't work out then send it in for replacement under warranty!
About screen, I think ZL screen is stunning! It is very crisp & rather accurate to colours than say SAMOLED screens imo. I like it more than my previous Note2 screen, esp browsing webpages is like night n day! Text appears much crisper on ZL screen no matter how small it is! Viewing angles are never great on sony screens (but not too bad either), and I don't mind that, given the screen is second to none head on! If you judge the screen quality by the viewing angles (like bazillion reviewers out there) then i'm afraid Sony ZL is a wrong choice to begin with! Btw, I have no issues reading text, browsing web, viewing images/videos (with mBE2 on) with the ZL screen placed on table or bed beside me (from an angle of say 45 degrees to 135 degrees). There is a thread regarding it in the ZL general section too (many others in the XZ forums).
P.S: Having said that, I would love to see an ips panel on a sony smartphone!
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by the way.. I have been a sony fan my whole life and still am..... every tv i have ever purchased EVER was a sony. and they have all had good viewing angles ... and as far as cell phones go if you compare this cell phone to ANY OTHER ONE in its price range they ALL have great viewing angles. I laughed when I read that comment about sony and bad viewing angles because your screen is probably manufactured by sharp. hell it might as well say SHARP instead of sony on the phone.
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by the way.. I have been a sony fan my whole life and still am..... every tv i have ever purchased EVER was a sony. and they have all had good viewing angles ... and as far as cell phones go if you compare this cell phone to ANY OTHER ONE in its price range they ALL have great viewing angles. I laughed when I read that comment about sony and bad viewing angles because your screen is probably manufactured by sharp. hell it might as well say SHARP instead of sony on the phone.
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Sorry, but I didn't quite get what your post was about. Just for clarification when I said "sony screens" in my previous post, I was implying the displays on sony smartphones (which I thought was obvious as we are here at xda forums & not TV forums ). I am well aware that the Sony ZL has sharp display, and fyi the HTC One too has displays sourced from sharp/Samsung.
Well, I think I don't need to be a fan to appreciate a good screen! I appreciate your opinion & concern about bad viewing angles on ZL, but as I've said before it isn't an issue for me, so I hope you appreciate mine.
P.S. Btw, the other day I played with the GS4 and I still find the ZL screen better especially with regards to web browsing (better whites & crisper letters) & daylight legibility (better brightness perhaps). I still might end up buying it just for fun, or maybe NOT .
Hello, guys, so during my use to another galaxy (Galaxy S plus) i saw that he has more light and its more colourfull than our phone at 100% brightness , and saw this light with new phones to (like , S3 MINI, S3 , S4 etc) !!
Is that possible that our phone is so bad at light, or just any sensor at my phone does not work ?
OK im talking about light sensor, does this phone have one ?
Xhemal1325 said:
Hello, guys, so during my use to another galaxy (Galaxy S plus) i saw that he has more light and its more colourfull than our phone at 100% brightness , and saw this light with new phones to (like , S3 MINI, S3 , S4 etc) !!
Is that possible that our phone is so bad at light, or just any sensor at my phone does not work ?
OK im talking about light sensor, does this phone have one ?
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It has got no light sensor. I suppose you know that all the other phones you mentioned are using AMOLED displays, right? Ancora is using a TFT display (and a pretty good one, in my opinion). About the brightness, I don't think I ever had any problem with that. So, unless you want extremely good visibility in direct sunlight conditions, I believe you will have no problem with Ancora's display brightness. As for the color reproduction, AMOLED displays are known for over saturating them. Some love it, some hate it. It's a matter of taste really. Personally I like it.
Also, this kind of questions might have been better asked in the Q&A section here in my opinion.
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It has got no light sensor. I suppose you know that all the other phones you mentioned are using AMOLED displays, right? Ancora is using a TFT display (and a pretty good one, in my opinion). About the brightness, I don't think I ever had any problem with that. So, unless you want extremely good visibility in direct sunlight conditions, I believe you will have no problem with Ancora's display brightness. As for the color reproduction, AMOLED displays are known for over saturating them. Some love it, some hate it. It's a matter of taste really. Personally I like it.
Also, this kind of questions might have been better asked in the Q&A section here in my opinion.
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ok thanks, the only problem i have, that this phone is not good at sunlight at even 100% brightness , and i thought that thers a fix about it , but meaby its the firmware problem , what baseband version are u using ? :cyclops:
Xhemal1325 said:
ok thanks, the only problem i have, that this phone is not good at sunlight at even 100% brightness , and i thought that thers a fix about it , but meaby its the firmware problem , what baseband version are u using ? :cyclops:
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In direct sunlight conditions, any TFT will fail. That's just the way it is. It's not the phone, it's the display technology behind the LCD panel.
It has no connection to the firmware, the ROM or the baseband. XXLM8 is the baseband I use but again, that has absolutely nothing to do with the display being able to withstand direct sunlight better than an AMOLED one.
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In direct sunlight conditions, any TFT will fail. That's just the way it is. It's not the phone, it's the display technology behind the LCD panel.
It has no connection to the firmware, the ROM or the baseband. XXLM8 is the baseband I use but again, that has absolutely nothing to do with the display being able to withstand direct sunlight better than an AMOLED one.
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ok thanks again, the only thing i can do atm is go buy another phone
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ok thanks again, the only thing i can do atm is go buy another phone
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You're welcome. If that low contrast in direct sunlight conditions bothers you so much, yeah, I think you will need a phone with an AMOLED display for better results.
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Hello, guys, so during my use to another galaxy (Galaxy S plus) i saw that he has more light and its more colourfull than our phone at 100% brightness , and saw this light with new phones to (like , S3 MINI, S3 , S4 etc) !!
Is that possible that our phone is so bad at light, or just any sensor at my phone does not work ?
OK im talking about light sensor, does this phone have one ?
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I compared my present S3mini with my prevoius SGW. The S3mini is having an AMOLED display as you already know. Those displays are having a warmwhite color, so the white is more yellowish compared to the SGW. The SGW was brighter than the S3mini when set the brightness to max. and it was better seen in sunlight. Plus the coldwhite produced by the LCD in the SGW is letting pics to appear more natural.
Oh and just by the way. Both to not have a light sensor and I´m not missing it. Neither missed it in the SGW nor in the S3mini.
So all in all the LCD display build in the SGW is really good and doesn´t have to hide behind a AMOLED display. There are even some advantages in using LCD´s over AMOLED´s. Of course an AMOLED has more saturated colors compared to an LCD but there is also an other side of the medal.
AMOLEDs are matureing faster. LED´s (used for the backlicht in LCDs) are getting mature too and loosing their brightness, but for AMOLEDs this is going to happen much faster. This has two reasons. One is because the pixels are organic and secound because of it´s size. A backlight LED has a much bigger size compared to a pixel in an AMOLED display. Because there each pixel is a single O(rganic)LED.
So let´s say after 10 years your LCD will only have 80% of the brightness it had at the beginning an AMOLED can be at 60% or even worse.
Last but not least. The very first OLED displays matured that fast you hardly could see something on them after 1/2 year of usage. (Had a MP3 Player with such a display)