[Q] MHL max output resolution - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just bought the MHL cable and test it with 46" LCD full HD 1080p and realize that Note 2 only can output 1080p/30Hz only. The picture quality is so bad when compare seeing on the phone and lagging happen alot when playing game. So is this the best resolution when output to TV or because the bad quality of my cable

funnyboy027 said:
I just bought the MHL cable and test it with 46" LCD full HD 1080p and realize that Note 2 only can output 1080p/30Hz only. The picture quality is so bad when compare seeing on the phone and lagging happen alot when playing game. So is this the best resolution when output to TV or because the bad quality of my cable
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it depends on the game. at 1080p, you need a lot of video ram and a lot of processing power from the GPU to be able to handle games at that resolution smoothly. if you look at benchmarks, the note 2 only averages 15fps in some benchmarks at that resolution, so lag is expected. at 1080p it needs to render 2.25 times as many pixels compared to 720p.
so far the only mobile SoCs that i've seen that can handle 1080p with a reasonably playable framerate are the qualcomm s4 pro and the exynos 5250.

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Achieve 1080p output through HDMI...

As the XOOM itself only seems to support [email protected] via the Micro-HDMI out, I was wondering whether the HD speaker dock (with it's upgraded speakers) also allows 1080p output via it's HDMI out? Anyone have it? Does it still only do 720p? If it's 1080p, then is it 60Hz or 120Hz?
Im going to have to go with no, it will not do 1080p out of the dock. all the dock would be is a micro hdmi extension, and HD just is referring to is the "HD" sound that you are now getting.
I dont think the Xoom will be able to do 1080p out being that the tegra 2 only supports up to 1050 lines i think.
but hey you never know with a little tweaking maybe some one can push 1080p out, but will never be a stock feature.
Yes, I am hoping that like the overclock of 1Ghz to 1.5Ghz there might be something similiar that can be done with the HDMI out somehow.
xoom looks great with hdmi out to my 24" monitor, but looks absolutely terrible on my bad ass 58" plasma. go figure.

hdmi adapter UK

Hi,
Can anyone recommend a good (cheap) hdmi adapter?
Cheers...
MJ-12
After over a week now, i will take that as a no?
Cheers...
MJ-12
Sorry, do you want a good one or a cheap one?
Both together is nearly impossible, but you are lucky!
We have a priceworthy and good MHL-adaptare (which i think yopu need): http://goo.gl/aD8T7
Shipping to UK is 4€ extra btw.
I got the samsung one from amazon at 13 euros. Decent enough but no HD video. Not with the somesung one or any other adapter i tried. Just keeps the Phones resolution. Fun to play games and maybe a movie though
hdmi adapter uk
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-adapter-microusb-to-hdmi-tv-out-black-p29839.htm
£12.95 inc of vat
this also works with no problems
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/20189616/-/Product.html
that's for £15 and claimed to be official. Took almost a week to deliver but worked without fault. Going by few reviews of "cheap" adapters, it seemed hit n miss thingy. Thought price is in middle for something genuine.
I can't vouch for the quality of this as I'm waiting for mine to be delivered (only ordered it this morning), but for a tenner I'm not complaining...
http://goo.gl/8BwsJ
starfarer said:
that's for £15 and claimed to be official. Took almost a week to deliver but worked without fault. Going by few reviews of "cheap" adapters, it seemed hit n miss thingy. Thought price is in middle for something genuine.
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That is the price for the genuine. post resolution when you try it pls.
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Just got ICS on my phone and tried the HDMI adapter. It seems that it has better quality with ICS. Don't know if it upscales the resolution but it seems clearer.
edit: So the output is 1080p but the upscaling isn't always the best. especially in games where the downloades files are for 800x480. In movies and photos it works great though.
starfarer said:
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/20189616/-/Product.html
that's for £15 and claimed to be official. Took almost a week to deliver but worked without fault. Going by few reviews of "cheap" adapters, it seemed hit n miss thingy. Thought price is in middle for something genuine.
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Argh hope it doesn't take a week to arrive, only ordered mine today
Decided at that price it just wasn't worth saving a couple of quid to get one that might work but likely have worse build quality.
Also ordered a HDMI to DVI cable from there for a stupidly low price of £2..
What's the actual conclusion on the SGS2s HDMI out? I've seen scattered reports of some people getting full 1080p out, others can't get any higher than the native 480x800. Then there's the Video Player app designed specifically for HD playback.
I'm getting 1080 with ICS but only on Videoplayback.
Tried several apps to resize the density for "office use" - everytime i had to reflash...
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Hollow.Droid said:
What's the actual conclusion on the SGS2s HDMI out? I've seen scattered reports of some people getting full 1080p out, others can't get any higher than the native 480x800. Then there's the Video Player app designed specifically for HD playback.
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Used to be 480p but in ICS works like a charm. BUT the app you are running has to be in HD or the phone upscales it a bit but not an actual HD quality. In movies it rocks.
cyberfux said:
I'm getting 1080 with ICS but only on Videoplayback.
Tried several apps to resize the density for "office use" - everytime i had to reflash...
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using XDA Premium HD app
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To me MX player works perfect, no problems with the stock samsung player.
Anyway even while the phone upscales the picture if you are at a big screen from the right distance you do not see bad quality. It is actually more than good. In photo gallery the quality is great, same on videos with any player. Only problem? Games. cause the downloaded files are for 800x480 which is low resolution if plagged on a 1080p tv.
Hollow.Droid said:
What's the actual conclusion on the SGS2s HDMI out? I've seen scattered reports of some people getting full 1080p out, others can't get any higher than the native 480x800. Then there's the Video Player app designed specifically for HD playback.
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Video resolution is independent of the phones native screen resolution. If the phone is 480*800 and the video is 1920*1080, then provided the media player can output 1080, and the tv being outputted to can display 1080, then the video will be 1080.
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euklidis said:
Used to be 480p but in ICS works like a charm. BUT the app you are running has to be in HD or the phone upscales it a bit but not an actual HD quality. In movies it rocks.
To me MX player works perfect, no problems with the stock samsung player.
Anyway even while the phone upscales the picture if you are at a big screen from the right distance you do not see bad quality. It is actually more than good. In photo gallery the quality is great, same on videos with any player. Only problem? Games. cause the downloaded files are for 800x480 which is low resolution if plagged on a 1080p tv.
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Photo gallery is played on 1080p? are you sure? on GB only videos were 1080
Not 1080p as far as I'm aware it is 1080i isn't it?
I got mines from fleebay, 19 pounds and that included a docking station and a spare battery.
You could always check Dealextreme... they always have good stocks of decent enough products
Wezi said:
Video resolution is independent of the phones native screen resolution. If the phone is 480*800 and the video is 1920*1080, then provided the media player can output 1080, and the tv being outputted to can display 1080, then the video will be 1080.
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What if say the video is 720p and your screen only goes up to 720p
My 22" monitor can't do 1080i so I appear to be stuck at 720x480
I got this one from Amazon for £6.99 and a HDMI cable for £2.25, I've only tried it with my TV (which can only do up to 1080i) and I get 1080i on it, no problems at all.
I haven't tried it with my monitor yet (I got it mainly to watch films on my TV without having to burn any disks/buy a NAS or anything) but I can try it to see the 1080p output if requested.
From what I understood it doesn't support 1080p

Will 1X ever support 1080p Video Out via MHL/HDMI or Media Link HD

As of my current understanding / testing when connected to a HDTV / monitor etc via MHL, currently the ONe x mirrors the screen, so you get 720p. It doesnt look all that good (I have tested on a few native 1080p Tv's, and some look better than others.
I would assume that the hardware is easily capable of outputting 1080p (rather than just mirroring the 720p screen of the phone ?)
Any Devs, or any opinions as to whether this is something that could ever be expected from HTC, or possible to add to a custom rom..
I understand that other lower spec'd HTC phones can output 1080p (even though their screen native resolution is lower.. - Sensation XL or Evo 3D - sorry not sure which one exactly..).
I have to be honest I was pretty bummed when I connected it to the TV .. I just sort of expected it would do 1080p out of the box....
Also I understand that Media link HD only currently offers 720p mirroring of the screen.. Does anyone know if this is likely to support 1080 (maybe wifi bandwith limitation ..)
the lower spec phones i.e. the evo 3d that i own will only output 1080p at 24hz making everything laggy. also it doesn`t seem to be 1080p at all but simply upscaled by the tv itself. the images are not sharp at all but look fine from a distance. if i set the phone to output a 720p it will display at 60hz and image quality will be similar if not the same. if you look at the specs you will see that the tegra 3 cannot output to 1080p howver the tegra 3 + can. maybe a good dev will be able to help you out since i intend to buy a tegra 3 device too.
ryanjsoo said:
the lower spec phones i.e. the evo 3d that i own will only output 1080p at 24hz making everything laggy. also it doesn`t seem to be 1080p at all but simply upscaled by the tv itself. the images are not sharp at all but look fine from a distance. if i set the phone to output a 720p it will display at 60hz and image quality will be similar if not the same. if you look at the specs you will see that the tegra 3 cannot output to 1080p howver the tegra 3 + can. maybe a good dev will be able to help you out since i intend to buy a tegra 3 device too.
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Could not stand still here but if you check nvidia's site it says that HDMI: 1920x1080 so it is capable of 1080p
nvidia.com/object/tegra-3-processor.html

Force MHL resolution?

As I'm sure you may already know, the mhl adapter will only output 1080p video at 24hz, good for watching video, not so good for playing games. What I would like to know is this is there anyway to force the s iii to output a specific resolution through hdmi via mhl? I only have 1080p tv's in my house, I would like to use my s iii to play games on them. Is there anyway that I can make the s iii output at 720p when connected to my 1080p monitor so that I can enjoy the full refresh rate?

Questions regarding official S3 MHL/HDMI output!

1) How do i fix the borders cut off in landscape mode when connected to TV?? If u look at youtube videos every user regardless of TVs have the screen bit cut off even thou phone's resolution is 16:9 720p?
2) Why does it display in 1080p not 720p (screen on galaxy s3 is 720p)? (my laptop using same hdmi cable without adaptor shows as 720p on TV) id like to be able to adjust it
3) My galaxy s3 heats up to 55 Celsius when playing with the phone and mirroring games. Is this normal? (although my alienware laptop heats up same also when connected to TV)
4) There is a abit of a lag between TV and a phone, the phone also seems to lag more when connected to TV (my laptop doesnt experience this)
Xdenwarrior said:
1) How do i fix the borders cut off in landscape mode when connected to TV?? If u look at youtube videos every user regardless of TVs have the screen bit cut off even thou phone's resolution is 16:9 720p?
2) Why does it display in 1080p not 720p (screen on galaxy s3 is 720p)? (my laptop using same hdmi cable without adaptor shows as 720p on TV) id like to be able to adjust it
3) My galaxy s3 heats up to 55 Celsius when playing with the phone and mirroring games. Is this normal? (although my alienware laptop heats up same also when connected to TV)
4) There is a abit of a lag between TV and a phone, the phone also seems to lag more when connected to TV (my laptop doesnt experience this)
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Hey,
1) I have a Samsung TV and on my remote there's a button labeled 'P.SIZE', i'm guessing that stands for picture size. I keep pressing that button until 'Just Scan' appears on my TV, this adjusts the borders accordingly, basically, doesn't cut them off. I tried the exact same thing on a Philips TV and it didn't have 'Just Scan', the best i could do there is have the borders cut off but only by a little bit.
2) I'm not sure about this one but it's my understanding that, if your TV supports 1080p then the phone upscales to that resolution and if your TV only supports 720p then it displays at 720p. I think most of us would like to be able to adjust it
3) I think this is normal seeing as your phone is displaying it's screen...twice and in 1080p...while playing CPU/GPU intensive games + while on charger. (Yea, i'm not sure it's fair to compare a laptop with the S3 in that context)
4) I read some info on what could possibly be causing the lag...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1799157...They discuss how, when the S3 is connected to a 1080p TV, the S3 then displays the picture in 1080p at 24hz which apparently is good enough for videos but not for games. Whereas if you connect the S3 to a 720p TV it displays the picture in 720p at 60hz which apparently makes it less laggy. (Once again i don't think comparing an Alienware laptop with the S3 is just)

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