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I have been using Android on my TP2 quite well. I would like to get into customization or it though and would like to figure out how to install CyanogenMOD or some other form that allows me to direct edit the android system from within the system.
This would also help the Devs I think.
electrikjesus said:
I have been using Android on my TP2 quite well. I would like to get into customization or it though and would like to figure out how to install CyanogenMOD or some other form that allows me to direct edit the android system from within the system.
This would also help the Devs I think.
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Now thats what im talkn about, pushing the limits of Android. lol im wondering the same myself. For the meanwhile u can try out either Home ++, PandaHome, Helix Launcher, or Zeam. ive tried all of those out with this AOSP build. I would recommend Zeam first then Home++ second. The Zeam UI is very customizable and i havent had a force close yet. so when i boot up android, i have the option of what UI i want to use The Standard AOSP Home, Home ++, or Zeam. also theres no slowdown when running these UI. try it out, u might like it. I got the Metamorph program but when i try to run it , it says im missing busybox. i dunno, i looked at processes and busybox is in here but not active or not being recognized. who knows..lol
im on the same note as u though, customization.
I've been trying this, unsuccessfully so far, since I got my TP2 about a month ago. It's not really documented anywhere so it's all trial and error and I haven't really found the time to work on it as much as I would like to. I was having some success mounting the data.img, pulling and pushing parts via ADB and editing the squash file. But now adb won't recognize my phone and I'm too lazy to fish out why. meh.
I noticed that Busybox was also in the file structure, just not activated. Which also means that the Android builds we have all been playing with are rooted.
I do agree with you though, Home++ or Zeam are the home screens of choice, At least until SPB MS 5 comes out. Did I see somewhere that one of the devs here on XDA made an android apk store for only XDA releases?
electrikjesus said:
I noticed that Busybox was also in the file structure, just not activated. Which also means that the Android builds we have all been playing with are rooted.
I do agree with you though, Home++ or Zeam are the home screens of choice, At least until SPB MS 5 comes out. Did I see somewhere that one of the devs here on XDA made an android apk store for only XDA releases?
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wow..i hope someone chimes in with that link..thatll be crazy ..thats cool as hell...only surf for xda apps for android wit ease. ive been using Zeam..it loads up fast and hardly any hiccups or FC's. Plus u can load any widget wit no problem. For some reason on Home ++ , certain large widgets will freeze up and wont let u put them in the trash bin at the bottom..lol and now i came across the same clock widget used in the sense that shows time and weather. so with zeam and that, ud think i had the sense version although im repping AOSP at the moment. I really wanna learn or find out how to either activate the busybox in this build or find a new, simple download. i researched some, but way too many steps and risky since this not an official rom. I b worried sometimes that messing around with the UI or hidden settings in android might mess up things on the next boot up..lmao but i already got MetaMorph, its juss waiting to be used once it recognizes busybox.
seems like a new sqsh file would have to be made by a developer mimicking cyanogen in order to "install" it
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seems like a new sqsh file would have to be made by a developer mimicking cyanogen in order to "install" it
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it would be like a custom sqsh file, kinda like a custom rom in a sense..lol that would be cool...there would have to be enuff interest in it plus be stable enuff to merge with this build. i know there has to be some kind of work around for the moment. there usually always is. ;-) i dont like the plain look of the Aosp build but its fast. so i try to find new ui or mods. which ive found out there is a ton of stuff u can do to this build thru apps juss like windows...my setup on this Aosp looks nuthn like it does when u first install it. it looks more like the Sense version. now i have it in fullscreen and that taskbar up top no longer there for that much more screen real estate..lol Zeam(ui app at the marketplace) has been wrkin pretty well for me.
Neopeek Cyanogen
Neopeek got Cyanogen working with ext2 partition
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or you can use staysafe app in android to transform sqsh to ext2. it's like root, but without the ability to reboot.
So no customisations yet.
this.
Well, I have the SuperE CyanogenMod from Neopeek installed. It runs a little choppy, But FAST!! I was never able to get DATA working though. So I had to put her down until they figure out why.
I even tried a couple different zimage/modules packages for the rhodium. All but one resulted in the boot animation endlessly restarting.
I guess I still have to wait a bit.
This is just an open ended question spawned by my observation that many people comment about boot animations and sounds in the development section.
Why do some people care about this so much? I'm not knocking on anyone. I really want to know why it's so important to some. I only reboot my phone once a week, maybe (except when I'm changing roms), so it's a very very small detail of the whole user experience, imo. Do people boot their phones in the presence of others to show off? Impressing your iphone friends? Phone doing so many random reboots that you get to see the animation multiple times in a day?
I'm happy with a simple progress bar to ensure me something is happening.
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Personally, I feel like if I have a custom ROM, custom UI, custom Recovery, custom Home Replacement, and custom Sounds, a custom Boot Animation is a given..
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Yeah I reboot at least every day (bump charging and whatnot) so I definitely like to have something nice on the screen during boot.
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I remember Windows boot ani was popular to replace by newbs.
I think its a good baby step to learn aosp.
So just wondering, why is it in Android the only way to apply hacks is through flashing zip files? Personally, I hate this method with a burning Passion haha. If you look at iOS or webOS, they have cydia and preware, and just use repository and download, install, restart springboard/luna. I want this on Android so bad, one app for all cross ROM compatible apps/hacks/themes/mods. Now I love ROM manager, but I feel it has more potential.
Please don't take this as me bashing the devs, I love there content, I just despise the method of installing it .
CM7 allows you to install themes, hide the clock/show battery percentage on the status bar, as well as lockscreen tweaks. There are 4 different ones and you can even add custom sliders that launch the activity of your choice. All without flashing zips in recovery. Pretty comprehensive if you ask me.
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Yes, that's exactly what I mean... kind of, I mean an app that downloads these mods from the internet, installs them, then just does a hot boot if necessary, and looking at cyanogenmod, some don't require a reboot. Maybe what I'm asking is just stupid, but I really don't like sifting through a whole bunch of forums to find a little clock, put it on a app described as above, I install, done no hassle. I love sense, and for somereason cannot use stock anymore ha.
It would be cool if something like Cydia did exist.
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So just wondering, why is it in Android the only way to apply hacks is through flashing zip files? Personally, I hate this method with a burning Passion haha. If you look at iOS or webOS, they have cydia and preware, and just use repository and download, install, restart springboard/luna. I want this on Android so bad, one app for all cross ROM compatible apps/hacks/themes/mods. Now I love ROM manager, but I feel it has more potential.
Please don't take this as me bashing the devs, I love there content, I just despise the method of installing it .
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What you are asking for is pretty much impossible. It's easy on those two platforms due to the similar form factors and only one company making hardware. Think about that. Good idea, but I also like the fact that there are zillions more options. Sure IOS and WebOS may be easier, but are far more limited customization wise. WebOs mainly due to the scene not being as big as Android and IOS is well self-explanatory.
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What you are asking for is pretty much impossible. It's easy on those two platforms due to the similar form factors and only one company making hardware. Think about that. Good idea, but I also like the fact that there are zillions more options. Sure IOS and WebOS may be easier, but are far more limited customization wise. WebOs mainly due to the scene not being as big as Android and IOS is well self-explanatory.
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Exactly, go open source!!
Well thanks ha, that cleared some things up
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hey everyone,
I'm fairly new to this forum since i just got my first android device. i've been an iPhone user since 2007 and I'm absolutely loving android so far. One problem i'm having is theming the device is awful there are plenty of theme types , themes for launchers , themes for odexed roms and themes for deodexed roms. it just makes life so much harder specially if you're a new user.
for those who don't know what winterboard does, according to google "previously known as SummerBoard, you will use it in order to apply different themes and visual tweaks to your iPhone or iPod Touch.."
now the way winterboard works is simple, the iOS device has images stored in system/UIimages .. what winterboard does is basically backup the system images and applies new images stored in var/mobile/themes. If the image is there it reads it from var/mobile/themes if not it reads it from system/UIimages that way you'll never mess with the system files even if you decide to delete winterboard from you're device.
Now before you start hating on me , i know JKAY v11 mod is available but it is very limited in the amount of customization you can do. I mean this forum is full of brilliant developers , why can't you come up with a universal way of theming devices?
sorry to bore you with all this info but i really hope to see something like winterboard for android devices soon
I agree tho.
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I agree but these things just take time. I am very satisfied with CM7 And the themes I downloaded. The developers here are concentrating on making Roms more stable and fixing bugs. In CM7 If you download themes yourself there is an in built theme Chooser which makes it simple to choose themes. If you would rather customize your own Themes use the UOT KITCHEN.
Hope you enjoy Android
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Until there is a universal theme app, I suggest using miui rom
They took themeing to a new level
mshfar said:
Until there is a universal theme app, I suggest using miui rom
They took themeing to a new level
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+1 totally agree.
There's always ninja/metamorph/villainthemes. But even those three do nothing to simplify the single most frustrating element of android theming: 9.pngs.
Until somebody whips up an easy editing tool for the 9s, especially on device, theming will be hard.
I kinda get what the OP is talking about though, but unlike winterboard (which, however people like to deny it, saps resources like nobody's business), android theming so far is just patching up system files with practically zero resource overhead in actual use.
eiraku said:
There's always ninja/metamorph/villainthemes. But even those three do nothing to simplify the single most frustrating element of android theming: 9.pngs.
Until somebody whips up an easy editing tool for the 9s, especially on device, theming will be hard.
I kinda get what the OP is talking about though, but unlike winterboard (which, however people like to deny it, saps resources like nobody's business), android theming so far is just patching up system files with practically zero resource overhead in actual use.
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Thing about winterboard is layers , you can select multiple themes to apply and depending on which order you put them in, they theme different stuff. And really , if you are using an i4 or above you won't notice any slowdown at all. Even with several different themes applied. Just my experience. Its really great I wish theme chooser would be ported to tw roms ! Or universal even better.
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I agree MUIU roms are brilliant but i personally never tried them, i'm just waiting for the official release for S II. It should be out in a month.
I know dev's are too busy trying to make roms stable but the question is how many stable roms do we need ? instead of having all sorts of roms each containing their own customization package , why not make your life easier and develop a 3rd party application that does the job for you.
I just don't get it , the dev's are spending so much time coming up with rom compatible mods and themes which needs a lot of testing and time. I personally use the revolution rom and i love it, one problem i faced twice is bootloop after flashing a theme because the themes were not compatible with the rom take in to consideration i flashed them from the revolution kitchen. I dont blame leomar for that in fact big props for him for the amazing work , the guy just doesn't have time to check the compatibility of each theme on the forum.
Besides theming, there's still no simple way of renaming apps on Android. Wasn't Android supposed to be an open platform unlike iOS?
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Besides theming, there's still no simple way of renaming apps on Android. Wasn't Android supposed to be an open platform unlike iOS?
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i know you can rename apps if you're using go launcher ex, i don't think there's a way to rename using TW.
I use MIUI rather than waiting... lol
T-Mobile theme engine...
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there is finally Winterboard and mobile substrate for android!!
saurik just released it today!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.saurik.substrate
Cydia substrate and winterboard for android
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/cydia-substrate-released-by-saurik-for-android/
the guy who made it foe iOS has also released it for Android just today .
there is xtheme engine, you can change themes, and there are different launchers
there is also the Xposed Framework
try "buzz launcher" . it gives you many, many different desktops !
Good news
aka12345 said:
hey everyone,
I'm fairly new to this forum since i just got my first android device. i've been an iPhone user since 2007 and I'm absolutely loving android so far. One problem i'm having is theming the device is awful there are plenty of theme types , themes for launchers , themes for odexed roms and themes for deodexed roms. it just makes life so much harder specially if you're a new user.
for those who don't know what winterboard does, according to google "previously known as SummerBoard, you will use it in order to apply different themes and visual tweaks to your iPhone or iPod Touch.."
now the way winterboard works is simple, the iOS device has images stored in system/UIimages .. what winterboard does is basically backup the system images and applies new images stored in var/mobile/themes. If the image is there it reads it from var/mobile/themes if not it reads it from system/UIimages that way you'll never mess with the system files even if you decide to delete winterboard from you're device.
Now before you start hating on me , i know JKAY v11 mod is available but it is very limited in the amount of customization you can do. I mean this forum is full of brilliant developers , why can't you come up with a universal way of theming devices?
sorry to bore you with all this info but i really hope to see something like winterboard for android devices soon
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Gud news guys.... now winterboard itself is available for android.... just search it in the play store....
I have downloaded cydia substrete but when i click on install it says something like frawy pants. What is that?
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I think if it deffenetely comes out this way would make alot of people happy having a dual boot letting you choose touchwiz/ or stock ics i know this is gs2 section but im sure most of us will be picking up the gs3 upon release
The information supplied over at Reddit reveals that the Galaxy S III may come with a unique dual-launch facility
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which will enable owners to choose between a TouchWiz interface, or wait for it a completely stock version of Ice Cream Sandwich. Again, this is just a rumor at this point, but if it turns out to be true then Samsung will surely win over everyone who previously had a few gripes about TouchWiz
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http://www.product-reviews.net/2012...ii-stock-ics-feature-could-fend-off-iphone-5/
I'm telling ya, android phones would be a lot more damn popular if these idiots would stop shoving their stupid ios copycat attempy customizations on their phones and stick with stock android...
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zander21510 said:
I'm telling ya, android phones would be a lot more damn popular if these idiots would stop shoving their stupid ios copycat attempy customizations on their phones and stick with stock android...
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I agree 100% first is the manufacture then we gotta deal with the carrier adding a bunch of bloat.....
zander21510 said:
I'm telling ya, android phones would be a lot more damn popular if these idiots would stop shoving their stupid ios copycat attempy customizations on their phones and stick with stock android...
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Yup. Touchwiz is arse. I despise it.
I personally don't care if the carrier or manufacturer wants to make a custom launcher or apps or whatever, but it SHOULD be up to the end user to decide if they want it. Say for example an added step in the initial setup of the phone.
This might give them some good stats as to who is actually using the apps vs who isn't which would in turn tell them if its worth the $$ to pay their developers for the extra crap. If not, save the money and use it for better things....like say expanding/improving coverage.... ya know
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I personally don't care if the carrier or manufacturer wants to make a custom launcher or apps or whatever, but it SHOULD be up to the end user to decide if they want it. Say for example an added step in the initial setup of the phone.
This might give them some good stats as to who is actually using the apps vs who isn't which would in turn tell them if its worth the $$ to pay their developers for the extra crap. If not, save the money and use it for better things....like say expanding/improving coverage.... ya know
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I totally agree with this like the article says a dual boot.... which would let you choose to have touchwiz or just stock droid aka ics..... Who knows we might get shocked and them actually come out with this and make alot of people happy
zander21510 said:
I'm telling ya, android phones would be a lot more damn popular if these idiots would stop shoving their stupid ios copycat attempy customizations on their phones and stick with stock android...
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Agreed. If the manufacturers want a custom UI, I'm all for it. But let them release it in the market as an app and let the users decide! If it were just the launcher, I wouldn't care. I always end up installing a 3rd party launcher anyway, even over AOSP launcher. But the manufacturers screw things up by mucking with the entire OS, like a virus. Trying to make their phone "different". Here's an idea. You want the phone to stand out, release it as AOSP. Have good hardware, stop making varients that you don't support, and deliver timely updates. Or at a minimum, release all driver sources with the release of a phone, so drones can leave their phone stock, and the dev community can customize from day 1.
These things will make your phones stand out, make them "different". And manufacturers, I promise you will be rewarded in sales and customer loyalty.
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The only thing I like about TW is the pulldown notification settings. Otherwise, this is a really good idea.
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I just had a thought...what if PC manufacturers put their own skins over windows...mother of God...
And they wonder what they have to do to make people like their phones...take a lesson from the PC world and for gods ssakes look at apple...uniform OS across it's mobile Devices...using an iPhone is the same as using an ipad...your friends phone works exactly like yours...that's why apple is so successful. They know that they don't have to make a versitile OS if they just make it work uniformly...
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I always preferred AOSP over TW, but if you think about it, TW isn't too bad because you can just freeze it and run a third party launcher over it. HTC Sense, on the other hand, takes up a lot more resources even when frozen since the ROM is based on Sense
Its not "Dual Boot" it's a simple Dual Launcher, not sure why you consider this big news. You don't need to buy the SGS3 to have "Dual Boot" as you put it, simply go to the market and get another Launcher like ADW or Go Launcher or Launcher Pro, then you will have your "Dual Boot"...
FYI "Dual Boot" means having the option to boot two OS, like Windows & Linux, Android & Windows mobile
GBGamer... Pull down notifications have NOTHING to do with TW or the Launcher
Lakers3408 said:
Its not "Dual Boot" it's a simple Dual Launcher, not sure why you consider this big news. You don't need to buy the SGS3 to have "Dual Boot" as you put it, simply go to the market and get another Launcher like ADW or Go Launcher or Launcher Pro, then you will have your "Dual Boot"...
FYI "Dual Boot" means having the option to boot two OS, like Windows & Linux, Android & Windows mobile
GBGamer... Pull down notifications have NOTHING to do with TW or the Launcher
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But touchwiz isn't just the launcher...change to say ADW and the lockscreen, menus, basic apps, pulldown, icons, keyboard stay the stupid cartoony ios copycat ****
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But touchwiz isn't just the launcher...change to say ADW and the lockscreen, menus, basic apps, pulldown, icons, keyboard stay the stupid cartoony ios copycat ****
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Haven't you heard of themes, that's what makes Android better then iOS, you can change it to whatever you want, all 3rd party launchers support themes, even the icons, imagine that. ... You must be new to Android... I'm running stock ROM and my phone does not have the stock lock screen or icons.... Search, it's your best friend.... I'll give you a hint, Lockbot Pro
the epic 4g touch from sprint does this already.
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Lakers3408 said:
Haven't you heard of themes, that's what makes Android better then iOS, you can change it to whatever you want, all 3rd party launchers support themes, even the icons, imagine that. ... You must be new to Android... I'm running stock ROM and my phone does not have the stock lock screen or icons.... Search, it's your best friend.... I'll give you a hint, Lockbot Pro
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Yeah I'm running ics theme it says in my sig...my point was that removing touchwiz isn't as easy as installing a launcher...and hell theming doesnt completely eliminate its annoyances...its launcher + theme + apps + etc.
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Its not "Dual Boot" it's a simple Dual Launcher, not sure why you consider this big news. You don't need to buy the SGS3 to have "Dual Boot" as you put it, simply go to the market and get another Launcher like ADW or Go Launcher or Launcher Pro, then you will have your "Dual Boot"...
FYI "Dual Boot" means having the option to boot two OS, like Windows & Linux, Android & Windows mobile
GBGamer... Pull down notifications have NOTHING to do with TW or the Launcher
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No, the Quick Settings is what I am talking about, like in CM.
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Haven't you heard of themes, that's what makes Android better then iOS, you can change it to whatever you want, all 3rd party launchers support themes, even the icons, imagine that. ... You must be new to Android... I'm running stock ROM and my phone does not have the stock lock screen or icons.... Search, it's your best friend.... I'll give you a hint, Lockbot Pro
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Maybe you are confused homie. TW is the entire framework for the OS, as Sense is with HTC devices. Certain AOSP items cannot be applied no matter how much you tweak and theme. Please read before attempting to look smart.
The article makes no mention of how the dual-launch capabilities will be implemented so how the hell are you people assuming or not assuming that it will be a launcher or dual boot?
Jeez, find something to do rather than talking it like you have the device and know what's going on.
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