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Hi all.
I've just replaced the touchscreen on my IIs with a new one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWN:IT&viewitem=&item=300104652377&rd=1&rd=1
Now, it 'kind' of works, but doesn't... but I think I know why.
I was unsure how to connect it to the LCD on the back, so just taped it in place as good as I can. The old copper tape which was there has long gone now, and I know it was a better thing to use, but I just ran out.
Now, do I need to solder it ideally? Warm up/connect? or is it just taped into place and thats it?
It does work, kind of, it registers the contact, but not precisely, and I cant get past the 'Alignment' process. Also it only seems to work if the slider is open, and sometimes registers a click all by itself, so I would imagine it is related to the connection.
Any tips/methods on how I should go about properly attaching it?
Also, would it make any difference the touch screen being about 1mm more to the left on the lcd itself? Just if I put it on smack-bang in the middle, the connector is out by 1mm, and not true.
Cheers
me
It needs to be soldered. My method was to use some 30 AWG magnet wire to extend the solder pads on the new touchscreen to meet the contacts on the back of the LCD. This makes it easy to solder them into place with only a dab of solder on the end of each piece of wire. This has held steady for nearly a year now. I reused the copper tape but put some electrical tape over it for good measure.
Alright so I think I have success with the using the touchstone inductive charging dock and palm pre coil on the Incredible 2. I unfortunately dont have a camera other than the one on my phone so I will have to update this post with pictures later.
The process was fairly simple seeing as HTC did most of the work for us by exposing the 4 pins below the battery.
The top two pins are positive and the bottom two are negative (I believe as it is working for me)
I taped the palm pre coil directly to the inside of the battery cover. The top solder point on the palm pre coil's chip is negative and the bottom solder point is positive. I ran two thin wires down to the 4 posts and soldered them on. I put putty in between the 4 posts and solder points so that no flexing and shorting would occcur. The 4 posts are springy so the wires were able to move and shut the phone off on me on more then 1 occasion.
After putting the battery cover carefully back on the phone I was able to magnetically stick the phone to the touchstone without having to sand or shave the plastic. Phone has been charging for a little over an hour now and it appears to be working. Ill keep this updated in case anything changes
HOW-TO
Follow along in the pictures.
Step 1:
Remove the Inductive coil and magnets from the Palm Pre battery door. If you use the original sticky piece you can put this directly on the inside of your battery door (same way it looked on the palm pre)
Step 2:
Solder a thin black wire to the top solder point on the inductive coil chip.
Solder a thin red wire to the bottom solder point on the chip
*Note - I taped my wires down so they wouldnt bundle up and cause the back to pop up. The antennas for the cell radio are built into the battery door so if the case sticks up any you will notice a drop in reception
Step 3:
Solder the red wire to both of the two top pins.
Solder the black wire to both of the bottom two pins
Step 4:
I put putty (wall hanging blue stuff) over the solder points and in between the wires so that neither solder point would touch. If it happens the phone will shutoff and you will have to remove the battery and replace it to get the phone back on
Step 5:
Test before replacing the battery door - It is such a pain to get the cover on and off you mine as well make sure it works the first time
Step 6:
Replace the battery door and make sure it sits snug - shouldnt stick up at all.
Step 7:
PROFIT
And we have success. Overnight charging didn't produce any adverse results. Charges to 100% battery is draining at a normal rate today.
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Awesome dude. Hopefully you can post pictures soon. Time to go order a touchstone and the battery cover
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I would love to see pics/a guide for this, especially since you can get both the Pre Touchstone and the inductive case for so cheap now. ~$12 not including shipping on Amazon.
I wonder if it would at all be possible to use conductive glue instead of solder, so that you wouldn't melt any plastic by accident as shown in the pictures. lol
this is great! thanks for the pics and the clear step by step tutorial. my parts are all coming in friday. can't wait to try this out. this will be great if it works the way yours does. hopefully i won't mess up anything.
Try try try again...
times_infinity said:
I wonder if it would at all be possible to use conductive glue instead of solder, so that you wouldn't melt any plastic by accident as shown in the pictures. lol
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Ah yes. Well this was a majority my fault. The soldering tip was too large and I ended up resoldering the wires two or three times do to the flexibility of the pins. Thats when i decided to put the putty between the solder points. unfortunately the damage was already done. Ive been having issues with the phone prior to doing this install so I will probably just exchange it under warranty anyhow.
Solder glue isnt a bad idea - I may pick some of that up for the replacement phone.
This looks great! Awesome work! Just picked up a Inc2. Got tired of my DX. Do you think this would work with an extended battery/door? Would definitely love to have this working.
jacket1 said:
This looks great! Awesome work! Just picked up a Inc2. Got tired of my DX. Do you think this would work with an extended battery/door? Would definitely love to have this working.
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Entirely depends on how much room is between the extended battery and the battery door. The pinouts and traces wouldnt change.
Ive never been a big fan of having an extended battery so I dont have one lying around to test with. Im sure if you cut a quarter of sheet of paper and then folded it 3 times it would be about the same thickness. You could slide it in there for testing.
hmm.. soo.. tried it.. be careful when doing this! i have no idea what i did wrong, maybe it was the heat from the iron (even though i made sure to lower the temp on my iron) but my phone no longer charges even through the usb. thankfully i have an extra battery with an external battery charger. but yeah this sucks.. thankfully i'm upgrading sometime next month so i'll just have to suck it up switching out batteries every time my phone dies but yeah, be careful when doing this.
EDIT: to make matters worse, it didn't even work. i'm assuming those 4 pins are pretty finicky, and that's probably where my problem lies.
EDIT2: tried to remove all excess solder from the 4 pins and now my charging is working again.. really wanting to try it again but don't want to risk messing something up more permanently this time. ahh!! don't know what to do. i already have 3 touchstones on their way. eventually i'll have to try it again. just seems like soldering for those 4 pins is gonna be a bit tricky.
Not to hate, but why hack up and solder to your phone like that? What's wrong with USB charging again?
I'm not seeing the benefit to this considering one user already broke his.
so i'm gonna try it again.. but, any tips on how i should solder the wire to those 4 little pins? that's defintiely where i messed up the first time. i'm not sure exactly what i need to make sure of when i'm soldering it.
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You might consider using a piece of perf board cut to size and grooved for the wires.
The stuff I use is pretty thin, but you copuld allways shave it down.
Then some of that DAP brand tacky putty to keep the board on the pins until the back is positioned.
Kind of like a mini SIM card. Then the warranty is still intact and the pins do their work.
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If your bent on hardwiring it, tin the wire (find some ear bud wire, the kind that you have to scrape to get the solder to take) first using a low rosin core very thin (0.025”) solder non lead free if you can find it.
Once the wire is tinned, form the end of the wire into a ring using an opened up paper clip.
Use a low temp soldering station to heat the wire and get the solder to flow to the terminal from the wire, adding only enough fresh solder to get the flow started.
Remember to cleanup the area with very little fluid and a Q-tip. These LCD screens are effected by too much alcohol and the rosin will etch the circuit if left dirty.
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If your bent on hardwiring it, tin the wire (find some ear bud wire, the kind that you have to scrape to get the solder to take) first using a low rosin core very thin (0.025”) solder non lead free if you can find it.
Once the wire is tinned, form the end of the wire into a ring using an opened up paper clip.
Use a low temp soldering station to heat the wire and get the solder to flow to the terminal from the wire, adding only enough fresh solder to get the flow started.
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I like the ring idea. i'll have to try that out
cac2us said:
You might consider using a piece of perf board cut to size and grooved for the wires.
The stuff I use is pretty thin, but you copuld allways shave it down.
Then some of that DAP brand tacky putty to keep the board on the pins until the back is positioned.
Kind of like a mini SIM card. Then the warranty is still intact and the pins do their work.
Edit:
If your bent on hardwiring it, tin the wire (find some ear bud wire, the kind that you have to scrape to get the solder to take) first using a low rosin core very thin (0.025”) solder non lead free if you can find it.
Once the wire is tinned, form the end of the wire into a ring using an opened up paper clip.
Use a low temp soldering station to heat the wire and get the solder to flow to the terminal from the wire, adding only enough fresh solder to get the flow started.
Remember to cleanup the area with very little fluid and a Q-tip. These LCD screens are effected by too much alcohol and the rosin will etch the circuit if left dirty.
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Awesome idea. I kind of wish I would have done it this way. Im getting a replacement soon anyway since the metal around the outside of the screen has separated and began to lift up. I may go with the sim card idea instead. that actually sounds a bit safer and more aesthetically pleasing.
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shoman24v said:
Not to hate, but why hack up and solder to your phone like that? What's wrong with USB charging again?
I'm not seeing the benefit to this considering one user already broke his.
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Well on a lower level it can be considered innovation. Making a product do something it wasnt intended to do in the first place. I find hardware hacking to be just as much fun as software hacking.
Not to mention on those dark drunken nights when i have a hard time plugging the phone in, now all i have to do is plop it on the touchstone and i have a fully charged phone come the next morning.
Note - I tried installing this in the car using a USB adapter but it doesnt power the touchstone enough. Im looking for a dual usb to single micro usb to see if that works any better.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ryDetails&archetypeId=12663&accessoryId=47610
Then all you need is a wireless charging pad.
that adds bulk and costs way more than this mod though.
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cac2us said:
You might consider using a piece of perf board cut to size and grooved for the wires.
The stuff I use is pretty thin, but you copuld allways shave it down.
Then some of that DAP brand tacky putty to keep the board on the pins until the back is positioned.
Kind of like a mini SIM card. Then the warranty is still intact and the pins do their work.
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having a hard time imagining what that would look like..
shoman24v said:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ryDetails&archetypeId=12663&accessoryId=47610
Then all you need is a wireless charging pad.
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The bulk is what i was trying to get away from. Not to mention I had one of these already lying around from my Nexus 1 days - when this was actually a really cool mod. Im not a fan of thick devices. If you look at the one from Verizon you realize it adds some significant depth to the phone. I would however like to get my hands on one so I can see how their wiring is done.
Yeah it is noticeably thicker. Not sure how I feel about the price lol.
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bik2101 said:
that adds bulk and costs way more than this mod though.
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having a hard time imagining what that would look like..
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This is single sided copper. You might want to find double sided with plated through holes.
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To the OP,
You might want to re-up your pics without your ESN...
The fingerprint might pass tho...
I was uncomfortable on how close the usb connector sat with the S3 installed in the Infuse car dock. You could actually scratch the S3 bezel if you weren't careful inserting the phone into the dock. This is because the bottom of the Infuse is flat and the S3 is rounded, it makes the S3 sit ever so slightly closer to the usb connector. I took apart the dock and lengthen the "channel", trimmed the retention plate, and removed the middle retention clip that holds the rear cover on. End result is it opens up about 1.0-1.5mm more then normal making ample clearance for the S3
Attached are pictures of the modified dock..
How hard was it to remove the sliding part from the rest of the dock? I am planning to take it apart soon (after my microUSB extension cable comes in) but didnt want to try it until I knew the cable worked. It seems like it would just pop off, but I didnt want to apply too much force yet.
I just need the bottom part to maintain charging and audio out. I plan on hiding it under the dash and just using the extension cable.
Appreciate the info.
the_buzz_man
the_buzz_man said:
How hard was it to remove the sliding part from the rest of the dock? I am planning to take it apart soon (after my microUSB extension cable comes in) but didnt want to try it until I knew the cable worked. It seems like it would just pop off, but I didnt want to apply too much force yet.
I just need the bottom part to maintain charging and audio out. I plan on hiding it under the dash and just using the extension cable.
Appreciate the info.
the_buzz_man
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Getting the back cover off without breaking it is a bit tricky. There aren't any screws at all and is held in by only clips. I used two really small flay head screwdrivers and popped it up using the location of the Infuse speaker hole. I then wedged in a hobby knife it and used it to pry up all the edges until the rear popped off. Once off you'll need a #00 Philips screwdriver to remove the screws holding the retention plate on.
Here are some more pics of the modifications.
First pic: Lengthen channel and trimmed retention plate
Second pic: This is how much it opened with out any mods.
Third pic: This is how much it opens after the mods.
Good work, I've taken this apart before on the D710 mount I used previously for my Skyrocket and before I got an Infuse mount for the SIII since everyone was raving about them, but I also noticed that it was a little too close for comfort.... I've just been very careful putting it in, but as much as I drive, it's not something I'll be able to protect every time, so I know what my quick little Sunday project will be today!
I also flipped the Samsung logo around
Feel free to use any of these steps I made for the D710 dock modifications I did in order to get a Skyrocket to fit, it may help others with the disassembly of the back portion in order to get to the screws and the sliders:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24453360&postcount=52
Thanks for the tip! I couldn't get the screws loose, so I carefully dremeled the retention bracket in place. Works like a charm!
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First off, THANKS to vw671!! Soon as I get my dock, I will do this to spare my S3!
KryptosXLayer2 said:
Feel free to use any of these steps I made for the D710 dock modifications I did in order to get a Skyrocket to fit, it may help others with the disassembly of the back portion in order to get to the screws and the sliders
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Any link by chance? Searched your created threads and couldn't find it... and too lazy to search more
flawedlegacy said:
Any link by chance? Searched your created threads and couldn't find it... and too lazy to search more
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That's what I get for trying to post the link in the text on my phone! Sorry for being stupid..... Haha, here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24453360&postcount=52
lol, thanks!
sblees said:
Thanks for the tip! I couldn't get the screws loose, so I carefully dremeled the retention bracket in place. Works like a charm!
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I know what you mean...I had to go to the hardware store to buy a #00 screwdriver to get off the screws! I thought about doing exactly what you did, both will work.
happened to get mine moments ago.... anyone care to explain how to get the back part off exactly? I know you said two clips but where do I pry?
-also, how was the Samsung plate turned around? Already modding it, might as well do that!
EDIT: I GOT IT! -and will try to make a video!
Still interested in the Samsung plate though. tried same method with that and couldn't get it
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happened to get mine moments ago.... anyone care to explain how to get the back part off exactly? I know you said two clips but where do I pry?
-also, how was the Samsung plate turned around? Already modding it, might as well do that!
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Clip locations in attached pic.
To flip the Samsung logo around you have to get it off obviously. I used a single sided razor blade to pry it up. Then you have to trim two tabs off the back, you'll know which two when you try to put it back on.
flawedlegacy said:
happened to get mine moments ago.... anyone care to explain how to get the back part off exactly? I know you said two clips but where do I pry?
-also, how was the Samsung plate turned around? Already modding it, might as well do that!
EDIT: I GOT IT! -and will try to make a video!
Still interested in the Samsung plate though. tried same method with that and couldn't get it
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The op mentioned to pry at the headphone jack but I pried it at the rectangle hole (not the usb hole).
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sblees said:
The op mentioned to pry at the headphone jack but I pried it at the rectangle hole (not the usb hole).
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I did NOT say pry it from the headphone jack.
I said:
"I used two really small flay head screwdrivers and popped it up using the location of the Infuse speaker hole."
Which is the rectangular hole.
yeah, i got that after pulling my head from my @&# and actually trying. Started from the sides and worked around. Not too bad. All I used was razor and screwdriver. Tried the Samsung plate and snapped the razor, lol.
So I just noticed your "dock" part doesn't have any writing on it. Mine says "LOCK" with a triangle showing to slide it up. odd...
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I did NOT say pry it from the headphone jack.
I said:
"I used two really small flay head screwdrivers and popped it up using the location of the Infuse speaker hole."
Which is the rectangular hole.
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Oh, I must have misunderstood. When you said speaker hole, my first thought was the 3.5mm hole.
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flawedlegacy said:
So I just noticed your "dock" part doesn't have any writing on it. Mine says "LOCK" with a triangle showing to slide it up. odd...
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haha...waiting for someone to notice that I scratched the front surface trying to pry open the back so I sanded down the front with 2,000 grit sandpaper. I was going to buffing it back to be polished but ended up liking the matte finish. The finish looks better in person than in the pic because a flash was used...the finish sort of matches the Pebble Blue's texture.
any chance of modding it to fit it with a slim case? someone mentioned heat gun in another thread to expand it a little. thoughts?
socalwrx said:
any chance of modding it to fit it with a slim case? someone mentioned heat gun in another thread to expand it a little. thoughts?
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It would have to be an ultra thin case. I'm going to try this out.
http://www.bodyguardz.com/armor-car...-iii-verizon.html?dir=asc&order=sort_priority
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I was trying to fix one problem and ended up making another.. Anyone know if the plastic piece that has the latch on the mother board (zif connector maybe?) that holds the ribbon for the charger can be replaced? The tablet still works but I can now no longer charge it or plug it into the computer. If its not possible to fix that then is wireless charging possible? I know I still wouldn't be able to sync with the computer but I would be good with that as long as I can charge it.
Below is a pic of what im talking about
Erm ouch, im no electrician but i think you may have ****ed it...
Right well best thing i can suggest is that a Samsung repair agent might have to look at it.
(Or you could find the pieces on the Interwebs for it)
I've done this a few times to laptop motherboards years ago. Just use some high quality tape to make sure the connection is complete. If it comes undone you'll just have to redo it, but if you use good tape you shouldn't have to. Definitely not the end of the world, they're just cheap plastic clips.
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I was trying to fix one problem and ended up making another.. Anyone know if the plastic piece that has the latch on the mother board (zif connector maybe?) that holds the ribbon for the charger can be replaced? The tablet still works but I can now no longer charge it or plug it into the computer. If its not possible to fix that then is wireless charging possible? I know I still wouldn't be able to sync with the computer but I would be good with that as long as I can charge it.
Below is a pic of what im talking about
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Even u manage to wireless charge it and how is tablet suppose to get power from the battery?
The zif connector is cheap, but alot hasssle to remove the board and dont know if the EMI shield is soldered into the board or with screw like Note 10.1 had.
Hard to see from this disassemble video. (scroll to end)
If u got good soldering skills and can find the zif connector part. Then its worth a try.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOzrRu8PB2Y&list=WL&index=3
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All you need to do is achieve 2 things.
1. Locate it so that the cable contacts line up with the pins in the connector.
2. Apply pressure on the cable so it has good contact.
Using your fingers put pressur on it and check that its charging when plugged into the usb.
Then tape it in position.
To get the pressure on it, cut a piece of plastic and tape it on the area where it contacts the pins.
Then cut some rubber so that its thick enough such that it puts pressure on that plastic bit when its put back together.
Tape that rubber in position and put cover back on.
Should last, but if not just redo it again and get the rubber thickness right.
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All you need to do is achieve 2 things.
1. Locate it so that the cable contacts line up with the pins in the connector.
2. Apply pressure on the cable so it has good contact.
Using your fingers put pressur on it and check that its charging when plugged into the usb.
Then tape it in position.
To get the pressure on it, cut a piece of plastic and tape it on the area where it contacts the pins.
Then cut some rubber so that its thick enough such that it puts pressure on that plastic bit when its put back together.
Tape that rubber in position and put cover back on.
Should last, but if not just redo it again and get the rubber thickness right.
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haha.. I was messing around and figured this out.. only I put a piece of cardboard box on it and taped it.. put the cover back on it and its charging again.
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haha.. I was messing around and figured this out.. only I put a piece of cardboard box on it and taped it.. put the cover back on it and its charging again.
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Well it says charging but the percent is still going down?
Going to power off the tablet and see what happens.. ugh
Also watched the video that was posted and I cant really tell much from the video.. if you can just buy one of those sockets and have it put on the motherboard then I will go that route.
The seal is broke. Anyone managed to do this?
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The seal is broke. Anyone managed to do this?
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When you say jack, are you referring to the plastic flap covering the port…?
If yes, then not the audio jack, but I have replaced the USB / Charging jack as it was cracked. Basically I ordered the new flap from this website – www.rounded.com
Then I pulled out the broken one and inserted the new flap – well I tried inserting it myself but didn’t have the right tool. So went to a normal phone repair shop and they inserted the new one for me free of cost in a few seconds. You might need a pointed but maybe blunt object to insert the rubber thingy attached to the flap into the socket.
Hope this helps.
Thank you for helping me! I mean the flap yes. I have tried to pull it out, but should I pull harder? It's kinda stuck, and I was afraid to snap the string. Now I can give my phone a prolonged life.
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Thank you for helping me! I mean the flap yes. I have tried to pull it out, but should I pull harder? It's kinda stuck, and I was afraid to snap the string. Now I can give my phone a prolonged life.
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Yes, it is a bit hard to pull out. But in my case yes - I just pulled harder and the string did snap! It left behind a part of the original rubber string inside the socket I think.
However the replacement flap that I ordered had a much smaller string, so it was easy to insert it back into the same socket, where a part of the old string was left behind.
Good luck.
Thank you. Thinking of using pliers at the bottom of the string. Maybe it wont snap then.
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Thank you. Thinking of using pliers at the bottom of the string. Maybe it wont snap then.
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Pictures. Or, it didn't happen...
Received the parts today. Changed the USB and audio cover. Used angeled tweezers, and managed to get out all of them by pulling and moving the tweezers downwards when the string stretched. Used the tweezers to insert them too.
Now I got two more years of use.
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Received the parts today. Changed the USB and audio cover. Used angeled tweezers, and managed to get out all of them by pulling and moving the tweezers downwards when the string stretched. Used the tweezers to insert them too.
Now I got two more years of use.
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Do you have the charging dock and a bluetooth headset?
That removes the need to [almost] ever open the flaps right?
Charging dock, but not a bluetooth headset. Don't know why the gasket on the audio jack cover fell off since I seldom use a headset. The USB cover gasket was worn because of all that use of Flashtool.