im considering this phone as my upgrade iread somewhere that only the sprint version has gsm but is the gsm unlocked ?
Umm, Sprint is CDMA not GSM. You can only use this phone on Sprint. Maybe you were thinking of the international version. Go to the AT&T or international board, they are GSM and might be able to help you.
isnt the at&t version the 8mp one , i want the 13 mp i was hoping it would be like the original motorola photon from sprint , cdma but the gsm part was unlocked (sorta)
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_g_ls970-4751.php
the sprint version has gsm ...
Well if it does have GSM, then it is inaccessible, which means you will have to take off the back cover and mess with the hardware a bit to put in your sim card, but I sill doubt it has GSM. I'm pretty sure that is an error in that link because LG would has to make separate manufacturing lines for the Optimus G since it is currently impossible to support all the different types of LTE in one chipset (or so I heard) and adding a GSM chip in the sprint version would just be a waste of money.
If you want the 13Mp camera, then you will probably have to import it from Korea. Then again, I could be wrong, perhaps someone with more knowledge can help you.
seems like this phone just isnt meant for me ill wait on another 13mp quadcore to come out that supports the gsm thanks for yal help
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I was just looking at an unlocked TP2 on eBay and love the fact that it has the second CMOS camera. Sadly it is for ATT/TMobile and I dont want to jump ship from my Verizon and Sprint accounts. I know its a long shot but because both versions are world phones would it be possible to flash an ATT/TMobile or Rogers to Verizon or Sprint and it work?
The T-Mo TP2 is a GSM phone and won't work on Verizon or Sprint.
But the TP2 should be coming to Sprint and Verizon around the first week of September. Of course that means you'd have to reup your contract.
No, but the Verizon/Sprint/Telus models can work on ATT, Tmo, Rogers since they are cdma and gsm. Unfortunately that's not what you were looking for
YodaJM said:
The T-Mo TP2 is a GSM phone and won't work on Verizon or Sprint.
But the TP2 should be coming to Sprint and Verizon around the first week of September. Of course that means you'd have to reup your contract.
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The Verizon/Sprint version won't be comming with a second camera.
I know its "wishfull thinking" but.....I was hoping that all the band limitations were software based and all the hardware was inside. Possibly some way to hack it to use on any carrier. Like I said, wishful thinking.
Only the Europe models have the second camera. All the North American models only have the camera on the back.
And the Verizon/Sprint models won't work on AT&T/Tmo unless someone hacks the North American GSM lockout they claim is implemented.
As the question states I'm a bit of a newb to the actual developing of programs however why is it that there is an way more GSM roms/kernels/hacks for GSM GN or any phone for that matter?
Is it harder to develop for CDMA? or is it just less popular?
I have a verizon CDMA GN and understand its way new but am wondering if I should not get my hopes up on lots of different roms to choose from?
Coming from my old samsung vibrant its a bit of a change.
Thanks!
because gsm has been out alot longer
-Gsm has been out since november
-Cdma has only been out for a week or less. I believe it dropped last thursday morning.
as droidstyle said, it's basically because of the time.
the GSM version has been out since november, and is useable all over europe, and also in the united states on AT&T and T-Mobile.
the CDMA-LTE version has barely been out for a week, and is only available on verizon and is not useable anywhere else.
so already you have a larger userbase and timespan for the GSM.
but honestly, don't worry about it. all the major roms like cyanogen will come out for both.
Yeah pretty simple answer is GSM has a way larger population of owners, and been out 4 times as long as the CDMA version.
GSM is sold mainly in Europe and can be used on two U.S. carriers, where as the CDMA version is on one single U.S carrier only. And the CDMA phone just came out on Thursday.
Now if we get the other U.S. CDMA carrier to get this phone = Sprint that would help development, plus I believe one of the largest carriers in China is also CDMA ?
Plus I don't believe it would be too hard to port the GSM roms to the Verizon Nexus....Right?
I'm getting ready to deploy, and I was curious if you can convert the Verizon Nexus to run on GSM/international networks. If yes, how?
sorry
there is no way my friend. i just got back from deployment. I was in the same boat as you. sell that g nex my friend, and get the gsm one. i found one by going on ebay, searching for guys selling one close to me and off to buy it locally so you're not waiting on shipping. or put on craigslists for a trade for the gsm version, u never know.
Yep, what he said was right - you can't convert it over. The Verizon one has a CDMA antenna and all the other networks require the GSM antenna (why couldn't they have both!! probably for this reason..). And even if the other networks used CDMA, they have to specifically accept your phone into their network (some kind of CDMA authentication thing, whereas GSM accepts everything it can talk to).
So flashing a GSM baseband to the CMDA phone will not work?
NO! Do not flash a GSM baseband on your nexus. The VZW nexus doesn't have any of the GSM radios or frequencies and wont work.
Unfortunately the GN only comes with either GSM or CMDA/LTE. It may be worth looking into getting a global phone that supports both CDMA and GSM.
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So flashing a GSM baseband to the CMDA phone will not work?
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As already stated, definitely never do this.
hello guys
im planning to buy htc m8 from a guy, the phone has verizon brand on it and the question is: is there any difference between the international m8 and verizon one? and can i flash the official's one rom on the verizon's one? and in general, is there any hardware or sofware difference?
The Verizon and Sprint models are different hardware, due to the CDMA (plus GSM) radio. All the GSM versions of the M8 are essentially the same hardware, but the CDMA versions are the exception. Trying to flash GSM software onto the Verizon version won't work, and might even brick the phone. I'd stay away from the Verizon version, unless you happen to need CDMA (not likely in most parts of the world outside the US).
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The Verizon and Sprint models are different hardware, due to the CDMA (plus GSM) radio. All the GSM versions of the M8 are essentially the same hardware, but the CDMA versions are the exception. Trying to flash GSM software onto the Verizon version won't work, and might even brick the phone. I'd stay away from the Verizon version, unless you happen to need CDMA (not likely in most parts of the world outside the US).
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Thank you man, you saved me, i apologized to the guy.actually, one of my big concerns is custom roms, i ordered my 4g note 3 from outside my country just because it has more support.
Thank you again man
Looked around and not sure if this is even possible. Could I get a H/K M8, unlock it and use on T-Mobile's network to receive LTE? Thanks!
Is there a reason why you are looking at the Sprint version?
Its been argued whether the CDMA versions of the M8 are any different in hardware, but I haven't seen anything definitive either way. I'd err on the side of caution, assume the CDMA version is different hardware, and stay away from it. Buy any GSM version and you can convert it to work on T-Mobile (after s-off, unlocking the bootloader, etc.), no question there.
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Looked around and not sure if this is even possible. Could I get a H/K M8, unlock it and use on T-Mobile's network to receive LTE? Thanks!
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no, Sprint version got some weird **** to it...
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Is there a reason why you are looking at the Sprint version?
Its been argued whether the CDMA versions of the M8 are any different in hardware, but I haven't seen anything definitive either way. I'd err on the side of caution, assume the CDMA version is different hardware, and stay away from it. Buy any GSM version and you can convert it to work on T-Mobile (after s-off, unlocking the bootloader, etc.), no question there.
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The only reason I'm looking for the Sprint version is because of the look. I like the dark back metal and gold upfront a lot. Sucks its an exclusive look only to Sprint. I read that you can flash the other non H/K models to have the same software so that is confirmed and all good.
Now I need to find someone who is using this Sprint model and can confirm it has the needed GSM radio(s) for TMO LTE.
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The only reason I'm looking for the Sprint version is because of the look. I like the dark back metal and gold upfront a lot. Sucks its an exclusive look only to Sprint. I read that you can flash the other non H/K models to have the same software so that is confirmed and all good.
Now I need to find someone who is using this Sprint model and can confirm it has the needed GSM radio(s) for TMO LTE.
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I'm pretty sure that Sprint models are CDMA only. You can't use their phones on GSM networks. I don't think what you are trying to do will work. I may be wrong here, but I really doubt I am.
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I'm pretty sure that Sprint models are CDMA only. You can't use their phones on GSM networks. I don't think what you are trying to do will work. I may be wrong here, but I really doubt I am.
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This is incorrect (that the Sprint variant does not work on GSM). Both the Verizon and Sprint variants support GSM and CDMA. Folk on here (including myself) tend to refer to them as "CDMA" for simplicity; but they are in fact also compatible with GSM, as well as HSPA, LTE.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)_cdma-6233.php
Now the question is whether the difference between the GSM and "CDMA" variants are purely in software, or there is an actual hardware difference. Its been argued both way, and I haven't seen any proof either way (although my gut tells me the latter is the case). And the question relevant to the OP is whether the T-Mobile LTE bands can be "added" to the Sprint device by software.
I used a verizon LG g2 on T-mobile a few and the phone im writing on now is a verizon iPhone full lte but i dont know aboit the sprint versions