I have a chance to get an early TMobile TP2. Does anyone know if the AT&T and t-mobile versions are expected to have the same hardware?
What I'm really getting at is, will 3g work on both AT&T and t-mobile bands.
I'm is still under contract with my iphone, and I'd like to switch to a phone with a real keyboard.
Thanks
Cal
It has been covered in other threads, but, the answer simply is no:
T-mobile: 1700mhz and 2100mhz for 3G
ATT: 850mhz and 1900mhz for 3G
This is correct...the Tmobile TP2 will only do 3G on Tmobile usa!
btw, what chance to get the tmob tp2 are you talking about? It won't be out til 8/12 if we are lucky!
I also have a chance to pick one up locally. May get and try to get unlocked for AT&T
blackout203 said:
I also have a chance to pick one up locally. May get and try to get unlocked for AT&T
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a local T-mobile store is willing to sell you a Tp2 early?
wonder if they'll ship.
And what phones are available?
I'm on T-Mobile in the US and I want to make sure I get the 3G speeds when I'm back in the states, so if I buy a phone when I'm out in Dubai, what are my options, and what should I get? The nice thing is that in Dubai everything is unlocked, so I just want to make sure I get something good.
I have liked the look of the Samsung Focus, and I guess it would be the Omnia in Asia. I don't care for a hardware keyboard.
Anyway, let me know if you do happen to know
It is not available for sale yet. Microsoft announced launch will be in UAE sometime in November but retailers have no idea when they will get stock.
i was under the impression that Dubai had GSM phones and once u go to US u would need a CDMA one.
Just not sure on this one so better check it out before u buy one
in the USA, they do both GSM and CDMA i think.
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in the USA, they do both GSM and CDMA i think.
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That is correct. AT&T and T-Mobile are the launch partners for WP7 and they use GSM. Verizon and Sprint are both CDMA based and they'll launch WP7 phones sometime in 2011.
As long as the phone has the 2100mhz band you should be fine. At&t uses 850 and tmobile uses 1700, but both make phones that will work on their networks and everyone else in the world.
As the question states I'm a bit of a newb to the actual developing of programs however why is it that there is an way more GSM roms/kernels/hacks for GSM GN or any phone for that matter?
Is it harder to develop for CDMA? or is it just less popular?
I have a verizon CDMA GN and understand its way new but am wondering if I should not get my hopes up on lots of different roms to choose from?
Coming from my old samsung vibrant its a bit of a change.
Thanks!
because gsm has been out alot longer
-Gsm has been out since november
-Cdma has only been out for a week or less. I believe it dropped last thursday morning.
as droidstyle said, it's basically because of the time.
the GSM version has been out since november, and is useable all over europe, and also in the united states on AT&T and T-Mobile.
the CDMA-LTE version has barely been out for a week, and is only available on verizon and is not useable anywhere else.
so already you have a larger userbase and timespan for the GSM.
but honestly, don't worry about it. all the major roms like cyanogen will come out for both.
Yeah pretty simple answer is GSM has a way larger population of owners, and been out 4 times as long as the CDMA version.
GSM is sold mainly in Europe and can be used on two U.S. carriers, where as the CDMA version is on one single U.S carrier only. And the CDMA phone just came out on Thursday.
Now if we get the other U.S. CDMA carrier to get this phone = Sprint that would help development, plus I believe one of the largest carriers in China is also CDMA ?
Plus I don't believe it would be too hard to port the GSM roms to the Verizon Nexus....Right?
So, now that Sprint has announced that it's bringing the galaxy to its network, would it be possible to buy a Verizon branded one now and once the sprint version is released, flash it to a sprint PRL and activate it on their network? Or is the hardware different?
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ShotSkydiver said:
So, now that Sprint has announced that it's bringing the galaxy to its network, would it be possible to buy a Verizon branded one now and once the sprint version is released, flash it to a sprint PRL and activate it on their network? Or is the hardware different?
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No.
Verizon LTE: 700mhz.
Sprint LTE: 1900mhz.
So... Both are carrier phones.
If you want freedom, don't buy a carrier-phone. You'd think that'd be obvious by now.
Please show us that option in the states unless we want to import.
No?
K.
Don't assume all users here are outside of the United States. It was a legit question.
I don't think sprint will activate non branded phones anymore.
Not to say its impossible, its not. It would work with 3g only though and the steps to get it on the network would likely be illegal (ESN cloning a current sprint device for starters) in addition to changing all of the APN settings etc.
Not going to happen, especially with sprint releasing the same device soonish, unless you do it yourself.
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Please show us that option in the states unless we want to import.
No?
K.
Don't assume all users here are outside of the United States. It was a legit question.
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Huh? he clearly wasn't assuming the OP was outside of the United States, considering he was responding to a question about VERIZON and SPRINT. Yes the only way to go "carrier-less" is an import. Everyone has the option to import and run in AT&T, T-Mo, Simple, or other GSM regionals if they want. The argument shouldn't be "carrier phone" vs. "not carrier phone", but rather CDMA vs GSM, considering most ppl on XDA, even if they buy a "carrier phone", wouldn't mind unlocking it and moving it around. That's possible on GSM, not so much on CDMA (except certain cases like Sprint MVNO's).
Anyway... OP this was discussed in a very (VERY) lengthly thread about a month ago when the Verizon GN came out. Short answer? No, it won't work.
adrynalyne said:
Please show us that option in the states unless we want to import.
No?
K.
Don't assume all users here are outside of the United States. It was a legit question.
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How is importing it any different then running to the store and picking one up? Same phone, same warranty, same price. Yeah if something happens I have to send it to Clove, Handtec, Negri back to the UK...big deal.
But he's obviously a Sprint customer, and wasn't interested in importing a GSM version anyway.
I was under the impression that most users here were from the USA, judging by the mass influx since Verizon release. GSM seems to be the minority.
What I said stands. Unless you want to import, you cannot have a carrier free device.
The person I responded to said get a carrier-free device. The poster was talking Verizon vs. Sprint, which means LTE.
Its not possible to do. That was my point all along.
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No.
Verizon LTE: 700mhz.
Sprint LTE: 1900mhz.
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We don't know what LTE band its radio chip supports (other than the Verizon band), yet. But don't buy a Verizon Nexus just hoping that you can use it on Sprint in the future. Sprint LTE network won't launch until later this year, and by then you will have many more choices of ICS phones, and/or the price of Nexus may have lowered considerably.
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How is importing it any different then running to the store and picking one up? Same phone, same warranty, same price. Yeah if something happens I have to send it to Clove, Handtec, Negri back to the UK...big deal.
But he's obviously a Sprint customer, and wasn't interested in importing a GSM version anyway.
I was under the impression that most users here were from the USA, judging by the mass influx since Verizon release. GSM seems to be the minority.
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GSM is the minority?
GSM DEV:
Threads: 80
Posts: 15,564
CDMA DEV:
Threads: 44
Posts: 7,734
Not surprising given the GSM version's international availability. Maybe the Verizon users are simply more vocal...All I meant was that in the couple weeks since the Verizon version dropped the general section in particular has exploded, where it was far more quiet before. GalNex is available around the world on many carriers, yet every other thread mentions CDMA/LTE (exclusive to Verizon). Very out of proportion. Just an observation.
Wait a minute, is the imported version capable of CDMA/LTE? Someone mentioned if you want a carrier free one then get an imported one. I was looking on eBay and in one I noticed it said it will work for AT&T/TMO 3/4G and LTE where available. I don't think this is the case but if it is someone fill me in.
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Wait a minute, is the imported version capable of CDMA/LTE? Someone mentioned if you want a carrier free one then get an imported one. I was looking on eBay and in one I noticed it said it will work for AT&T/TMO 3/4G and LTE where available. I don't think this is the case but if it is someone fill me in.
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LTE where available meaning in an LTE area they will sell you an LTE device. The UK version does NOT have LTE.
Also to the OP, no it won't work.
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LTE where available meaning in an LTE area they will sell you an LTE device. The UK version does NOT have LTE.
Also to the OP, no it won't work.
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Thanks, I guess the eBay listing is miss leading then. I know if I bought it and found out later that wasn't the case I'd be returning it.
Hey, this is an old thread but I just found this through Googling.
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/20/sprint-galaxy-nexus-a-reality-device-given-the-green-light-for-activation-rumor/
Is this really possible?
So I want to buy this phone straight out. AT&T is charging more than other carriers, should I just buy the T-Mobile version? Do I have any other options for where to buy or which model to buy?
The T-Mobile version will be locked to T-Mobile, and AFAIK, unless you have a T-Mobile account, they won't unlock it for you.
Plus, it looks like the the T-Mobile phone lacks at least two LTE bands that AT&T runs (and vice versa).
I am in the same boat, and for now I see the choice as between buying the AT&T phone (leather) through BestBuy and collecting their $100 gift card for the final cost of $669-100=569, or buying the unlocked international version at ebay (currently $605) or amazon ($655), which has all the advantages of not being a carrier version, but also lacks one of AT&T's bands (30). Plus, there are risks associated with buying a $600+ phone from companies you don't know.
Quite a few people from here have ordered their phones from ebay, so I'm hoping they have a good experience, so I can jump on the bandwagon.
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The T-Mobile version will be locked to T-Mobile, and AFAIK, unless you have a T-Mobile account, they won't unlock it for you.
Plus, it looks like the the T-Mobile phone lacks at least two LTE bands that AT&T runs (and vice versa).
I am in the same boat, and for now I see the choice as between buying the AT&T phone (leather) through BestBuy and collecting their $100 gift card for the final cost of $669-100=569, or buying the unlocked international version at ebay (currently $605) or amazon ($655), which has all the advantages of not being a carrier version, but also lacks one of AT&T's bands (30). Plus, there are risks associated with buying a $600+ phone from companies you don't know.
Quite a few people from here have ordered their phones from ebay, so I'm hoping they have a good experience, so I can jump on the bandwagon.
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Good to know I'm not in this boat alone lol. How much do you know about the band its lacking and how that may affect signal?
I wanted T-Mobile for that brown leather.... But it makes sense that you'd need an account lol.
I just looked at specs for the two models:
AT&T Model H810, bands 2,4,5,7,17,30.
T-Mobile Model 811, bands 2,4,5,7,12
International Model H815, bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20,28
So, the TMO model lacks AT&T's bands 17&30, and the International one only lacks 30. I really have no idea how wide-spread those bands are, and how much we would lose by not having them.
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I just looked at specs for the two models:
AT&T Model H810, bands 2,4,5,7,17,30.
T-Mobile Model 811, bands 2,4,5,7,12
International Model H815, bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20,28
So, the TMO model lacks AT&T's bands 17&30, and the International one only lacks 30. I really have no idea how wide-spread those bands are, and how much we would lose by not having them.
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Appreciate you looking that up. That's some good info. I was gonna research when I got a chance later tonight lol. I did read earlier that if you get the tablet from ATT you can get an LG tablet with 2 yr contract for $0.99... That's kinda cool? I don't have a tablet so it'd be neat to have one haha.
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Appreciate you looking that up. That's some good info. I was gonna research when I got a chance later tonight lol. I did read earlier that if you get the tablet from ATT you can get an LG tablet with 2 yr contract for $0.99... That's kinda cool? I don't have a tablet so it'd be neat to have one haha.
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The small print on that tablet is that you have to put it on that 2 yr contract for $10/mo.
I don't need an LTE-enabled tablet bad enough to pay $240.99 for it. It might be a good tablet, but I doubt it's that good.
Plus, I am going to pay full price for the phone mostly to be free. Why would I tie myself to a contract for a tablet?
I'm in the same boat, sort of. I'd like to avoid a carrier version and was set on the International but now don't know how that one missing band will affect service.
Question though, if I have a carrier model and get it unlocked to use with another carrier, I'm guessing I'm still stuck with the previous carrier's bloat and start up screen, correct?
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The small print on that tablet is that you have to put it on that 2 yr contract for $10/mo.
I don't need an LTE-enabled tablet bad enough to pay $240.99 for it. It might be a good tablet, but I doubt it's that good.
Plus, I am going to pay full price for the phone mostly to be free. Why would I tie myself to a contract for a tablet?
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Haha you make a good point!
Well I can't be 100% sure on the info I'm reading.... But it looks like Band 30 is either a 3g band or a lower mhz LTE band. I can't find much, or I may not be using the right "key words".
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Question though, if I have a carrier model and get it unlocked to use with another carrier, I'm guessing I'm still stuck with the previous carrier's bloat and start up screen, correct?
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Yep.
Unless you root and debloat it, but that very ability is more likely to come to non-carrier versions, which are not bloated in the first place.
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I'm in the same boat, sort of. I'd like to avoid a carrier version and was set on the International but now don't know how that one missing band will affect service.
Question though, if I have a carrier model and get it unlocked to use with another carrier, I'm guessing I'm still stuck with the previous carrier's bloat and start up screen, correct?
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Correct on that. At least till you root/ROM it!
I think I'll stay away from rooting and romming for a bit. I bricked my three month old LG G3 romming it and had to rebuy a new one last month. So when I get the G4, I'll have two G3's which look brand new but one is a paperweight.
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I think I'll stay away from rooting and romming for a bit. I bricked my three month old LG G3 romming it and had to rebuy a new one last month. So when I get the G4, I'll have two G3's which look brand new but one is a paperweight.
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Lol I understand. That's a pretty cool looking paperweight! But yea, international versions don't come with much bloat at all.
That's my main attraction to it. I'm picky about my phones and hate branding and bloat. Looks like the International model lacks bands with both my current carrier (AT&T) and the carrier I may be jumping to (Verizon).
Now I'm stuck between two rocks and a hard place. I can either chance it with the International, go for the AT&T model knowing I may be dropping them in a few months, or just wait it out until I switch carriers.
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So I want to buy this phone straight out. AT&T is charging more than other carriers, should I just buy the T-Mobile version? Do I have any other options for where to buy or which model to buy?
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Makster said:
I just looked at specs for the two models:
AT&T Model H810, bands 2,4,5,7,17,30.
T-Mobile Model 811, bands 2,4,5,7,12
International Model H815, bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20,28
So, the TMO model lacks AT&T's bands 17&30, and the International one only lacks 30. I really have no idea how wide-spread those bands are, and how much we would lose by not having them.
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LTE band 30 is upcoming, and not yet deployed. Chances are good that unless you live in the downtown area of a major city you probably will be moved onto the next device by the time you need band 30. Also, band 17 is AT&T's primary LTE band, so you probably don't want to get a device for AT&T without band 17. Stick with the AT&T version or the international. You can probably find the brown leather backplate by itself without buying a T-Mobile G4 that's missing the most important LTE band.
http://www.rvmobileinternet.com/atts-summer-lte-expansions-plans-2-3-ghz-wcs-lte-band-30-is-coming/
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LTE band 30 is upcoming, and not yet deployed. Chances are good that unless you live in the downtown area of a major city you probably will be moved onto the next device by the time you need band 30. Also, band 17 is AT&T's primary LTE band, so you probably don't want to get a device for AT&T without band 17. Stick with the AT&T version or the international. You can probably find the brown leather backplate by itself without buying a T-Mobile G4 that's missing the most important LTE band.
http://www.rvmobileinternet.com/atts-summer-lte-expansions-plans-2-3-ghz-wcs-lte-band-30-is-coming/
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Awesome info! Thank you do much! Band 30 sounds like the real deal when it comes to speed lol. Might be worth it to stick with a more expensive ATT model... I love me some fast Internetz...
HaVoK C89 said:
Awesome info! Thank you do much! Band 30 sounds like the real deal when it comes to speed lol. Might be worth it to stick with a more expensive ATT model... I love me some fast Internetz...
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If you happen to be in an area that gets band 30, you should have incredible speeds until more devices are released that support it. It's just part of the consideration. I figure my speeds are fast enough for now, and it could be a year or more before band 30 is even up in my home area. I'm on AT&T and have the international version. I'd rather have the guaranteed unlocked/rooted international version than pay a lot more for the AT&T variant which might be locked for months. Whatever you do, just don't get the T-Mobile. Other than that, you can't really go wrong.
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That's my main attraction to it. I'm picky about my phones and hate branding and bloat. Looks like the International model lacks bands with both my current carrier (AT&T) and the carrier I may be jumping to (Verizon).
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Actually, if you are planning on going to Verizon, you don't really have a choice: You need to get the Verizon version.
Both AT&T and international G4's are GSM-only phones and will not work with Verizon.