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Probably wrong forum but I also have a fascinate and was wondering if there was anyway of flashing over to sprint for my second line since it can be flashed to metro and cricket
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No, Sprint does not allow other networks ESN's on their network.
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No, Sprint does not allow other networks ESN's on their network.
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Well damn haha oh well guess I'll need to use the upgrade no matter what to get that phone off the blackberry haha
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ichefae85 said:
Probably wrong forum but I also have a fascinate and was wondering if there was anyway of flashing over to sprint for my second line since it can be flashed to metro and cricket
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No, Sprint does not allow other networks ESN's on their network.
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To OP:Actually the Honest answer is yes, due to a lawsuit against sprint you ARE allowed to bring your own phone to sprint as lone as it's already flashed over to the sprint network, although not everything will work depending on how you flash it or have it done by. it's the same way with all carrier's, if you have a cdma phone it is allowed on any CDMA network (besides possibly the CDMA Iphone4). and any GSM phone will work with any GSM tech Carrier.
To: ichefae85 do a little research before giving someone an answer on this subject, a CDMA phone can be flashed to any Carrier whether it be Cricket, Metro, Boost, or Sprint! They just will not flash all the information over for you, you have to do that either yourself or 3rd-party. Also if you do not believe me Search on google for the FCC ruling on the matter
The reason you CANNOT use a non-Sprint phone on the Sprint network is that ESN cloning (the method used to obtain a flash) is highly illegal when performed by anyone other then network personnel, so while doable, Sprint won't do it so in this case its a felony.
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The reason you CANNOT use a non-Sprint phone on the Sprint network is that ESN cloning (the method used to obtain a flash) is highly illegal when performed by anyone other then network personnel, so while doable, Sprint won't do it so in this case its a felony.
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Haha I'll just stay safe and do the upgrade and just sell my fascinate
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I'm sure most of us have seen the rumors floating around over the past few days of how a sprint rep said that the galaxy nexus can definitely be flashed for sprint.
Has anyone been successful with this yet? Or is there a sprint employee here that can confirm this?
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I have read that article too.
It appears that it might be true. I know in the past this was never allowed. It is odd that after all this time they would allow it now. You would have thought they would have allowed the Verizon Iphone. I would personally confirm this myself before purchasing a Nexus though. Also, even if they do activate it I would assume your insurance would not work on a device they do not carry.
Give it a few days. I am sure someone will try it. We will no for sure soon. Personally, I think the rep got the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus confused.
It could probably be made to work for 3G only...which doesn't concern me at all since you have a better chance of finding me sober on a Friday night than you do of finding a 4G signal around here.
Now, as for activation there is a 99.9% chance that you cannot just call them up to take care of it. I doubt you could even have your buddy that works at Sprint take care of it. There is kinda this database...
...now, how could it be done? Likely in the same manner that things are "flashed" to Boost and Cricket and MetroPCS.
What does that entail? That's up to you to find out, but, I'll recommend you don't go about trying to find out on XDA. It is a legal grey area. As such it is not something XDA will allow. It's worth neither XDA's time nor money to debate it's legality.
daneurysm said:
It could probably be made to work for 3G only...which doesn't concern me at all since you have a better chance of finding me sober on a Friday night than you do of finding a 4G signal around here.
Now, as for activation there is a 99.9% chance that you cannot just call them up to take care of it. I doubt you could even have your buddy that works at Sprint take care of it. There is kinda this database...
...now, how could it be done? Likely in the same manner that things are "flashed" to Boost and Cricket and MetroPCS.
What does that entail? That's up to you to find out, but, I'll recommend you don't go about trying to find out on XDA. It is a legal grey area. As such it is not something XDA will allow. It's worth neither XDA's time nor money to debate it's legality.
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I thought flashing was only illegal if you messed with the ESN?
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Gomenkiyo said:
I thought flashing was only illegal if you messed with the ESN?
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I am going to politely decline discussing the matter.
Gomenkiyo said:
I thought flashing was only illegal if you messed with the ESN?
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That's what you have to do to get the phone on sprint. Unless you get a Rep to add the esn.
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That's what you have to do to get the phone on sprint. Unless you get a Rep to add the esn.
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Also a VZW prl as well and some other minor tinkering in software.
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That's what you have to do to get the phone on sprint. Unless you get a Rep to add the esn.
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You wont have to do that if the following is true. I think this is what the OP was thinking about:
LordLugard said:
Also a VZW prl as well and some other minor tinkering in software.
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/20/spr...e-given-the-green-light-for-activation-rumor/
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Ok, so like many of us here, I was also curious, so i chatted up one of their CSR's on the webchat. Here is our conversation.
http://gyazo.com/8c474fc6bf3e0346cd442e9e203136f1
For even further clarification I called my local sprint store, and They also said what the CSR I spoke with said, If sprint does not sell the phone, it cannot be activated on the network, and to exhaust the final line of questioning, I am presently on the line with Sprints Customer Care (corporate call center, not local store), for the final nail in the coffin. I will post back once I get off of the line with them.
Edit: Just got off the line with the corporate CSR, and they confirmed what the other 2 said.
So that is 3 out of 3 Sprint Reps, Local CSR, Phone CSR, Chat CSR, all saying no the Galaxy Nexus cannot be activated on Sprint's Network.
Which doesn't go to say that you could do so via "questionable" methods. But you can't just call them and say Here is my MEID DEC activate mah phone naow.
I answered this yesterday. I am betting the tech that goofed got the two nexus phones mixed up.
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As a person who works in the training dept of a sprint Call center I can tell you for a fact that there is no way we can activate a Verizon ESN in our system. They just dont exist in our database. Any means of activating that phone on our systems is not thru any legitamate means.
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As a person who works in the training dept of a sprint Call center I can tell you for a fact that there is no way we can activate a Verizon ESN in our system. They just dont exist in our database. Any means of activating that phone on our systems is not thru any legitamate means.
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this. i work in a prefferred retailer. the only way is to get the esn in the system, it will just show as invalid if not, we've tried this. so how to get it into the system? technically, the previous poster was correct, it wouldnt be legitmate; since verizon has the rights to the esn's that were created by the manufacturers FOR verizon specifically. so, i am sorry, but no Galaxy Nexus on sprint...
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this. i work in a prefferred retailer. the only way is to get the esn in the system, it will just show as invalid if not, we've tried this. so how to get it into the system? technically, the previous poster was correct, it wouldnt be legitmate; since verizon has the rights to the esn's that were created by the manufacturers FOR verizon specifically. so, i am sorry, but no Galaxy Nexus on sprint...
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You realize admitting to me you work in a sprint store makes you my enemy. You'd be surprised how many times a day a customer calls in and goes the sprint store promised me that you'd do "x" when in fact we cant. And next thing I know im on an escalation, telling the customer if a store promised you something to go back to the store getting yelled at by an idiot who has no concept of right or wrong who then asks to speak to my manager.
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As employees of Sprint, either directly or indirectly, it is inappropriate and unprofessional on any level to have this conversation on an external forum.
Full Disclosure: I am a Sprint employee. Any opinions are my own and in no way endorsed by Sprint.
EDIT: Quoted post removed so I removed the quote. Hoping the other commenter will as well.
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If you have not heard this enough already, it will not activate on Sprint because the ESN is not registered to the Sprint network. There is no legitimate way to make that happen either.
Besides, the GSII is a better phone right?
Full Disclosure: I am a Sprint employee. Any opinions are my own and in no way endorsed by Sprint.
hijewpositive said:
I'm sure most of us have seen the rumors floating around over the past few days of how a sprint rep said that the galaxy nexus can definitely be flashed for sprint.
Has anyone been successful with this yet? Or is there a sprint employee here that can confirm this?
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As employees of Sprint, either directly or indirectly, it is inappropriate and unprofessional on any level to have this conversation on an external forum.
Full Disclosure: I am a Sprint employee. Any opinions are my own and in no way endorsed by Sprint.
EDIT: Quoted post removed so I removed the quote. Hoping the other commenter will as well.
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thank you, i appreciate this
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You realize admitting to me you work in a sprint store makes you my enemy. You'd be surprised how many times a day a customer calls in and goes the sprint store promised me that you'd do "x" when in fact we cant. And next thing I know im on an escalation, telling the customer if a store promised you something to go back to the store getting yelled at by an idiot who has no concept of right or wrong who then asks to speak to my manager.
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I also work in a preferred retailer. Im a tech. And i cant tell you how many dam customers i get say cc said i can come in and get a new phone. Theres more to do than that. We actually have interaction. From what ive seen and talked to my friends about you read off a script and only mess with your own device. so when you actually so called "get your hands dirty" and you know what half of the idiot customers lie. you know that i catch half of them lieing to me daily. "did your phone get wet?" no ."why is there rice in it then? Get real.
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Would be awesome but don't think it is possible !
SGS2 is a better phone anyway. Forget the nexus. ICS is the real thing to be excited about.
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Sorry for this stupid question, but if I purchase the htc one x outright, which server providers can I use in the U.S. and how do I go about it?
Thanks and be gentle
At&t new number or port without a contract, but you must goto a corporate owned store. Do not tell them you have a pda and sign up for the 15 dollar data plan or 30 dollar messaging and data unlimited. You can do it over the phone but they will ship you a sin card .
Peace
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so I couldnt go to verizon or us cellular? Also, could I wouldn't be able to use my existing phone number, just go into the corporate store with the phone and basically tell them I want to sign up with them? Just want to make sure I have this understood before I do this. This isnt illegal is it?
Thanks again
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so I couldnt go to verizon or us cellular? Also, could I wouldn't be able to use my existing phone number, just go into the corporate store with the phone and basically tell them I want to sign up with them? Just want to make sure I have this understood before I do this. This isnt illegal is it?
Thanks again
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The One X international unlocked is only for certain GSM frequencies. Well, mainly only AT&T right now in the US.
Verizon uses CDMA and I think US Cellular does too. So it wouldn't be compatible at all and you'd have a brick on your hands.
AT&T, Red Pocket, or Straight Talk.
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The One X international unlocked is only for certain GSM frequencies. Well, mainly only AT&T right now in the US.
Verizon uses CDMA and I think US Cellular does too. So it wouldn't be compatible at all and you'd have a brick on your hands.
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You can't brick your phone trying to use it on Verizon. It isn't even possible to try
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GGerk said:
so I couldnt go to verizon or us cellular? Also, could I wouldn't be able to use my existing phone number, just go into the corporate store with the phone and basically tell them I want to sign up with them? Just want to make sure I have this understood before I do this. This isnt illegal is it?
Thanks again
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No it isn't illegal.
Sorry for the triple post I guess it doesn't combine them all on the XDA app.
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joshnichols189 said:
You can't brick your phone trying to use it on Verizon. It isn't even possible to try
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I'm not saying it will brick it.....i'm saying he has a brick on his hands.
As in, you can use it like a personal media player....but not an actual smartphone with no service/data.
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I'm not saying it will brick it.....i'm saying he has a brick on his hands.
As in, you can use it like a personal media player....but not an actual smartphone with no service/data.
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Sorry haha bad day, read it wrong
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you can use it with tmobile if you are lucky enough to live in an area with the 1900mhz band
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you can use it with tmobile if you are lucky enough to live in an area with the 1900mhz band
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Or if you're happy to live with Edge data only.
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Or if you're happy to live with Edge data only.
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Or you purchase a mobile hotspot.
Hi, i'm buying a Samsung galaxy s3, and i worry about bad ESN phone that i can't use on my tmobile account.
For that reason, i think i will pay for a s3 ATT ( if ATT s3 is a bad ESN phone than i still can unlock and use it with my tmobile account, right? )
But i hear someone said that if i use a unlock ATT phone then tmobile data plan won't work on that att phone. I don't know if this is correct information or not.
Can someone help me out?
Thank you very much.
Also Is there anyone to avoid bad esn phone on craiglists?
Furthermore, is there anyone to buy a bad ESN Tmobile phone, and somehow i can use it with tmobile ?
Once its been blacklisted it will not work with that specific carrier. If you want to buy one off craigslist...have the seller meet you at a at&t store or T-Mobile and have the rep check if the imei for you. If the seller is unwilling to do that...don't trust it.
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Once its been blacklisted it will not work with that specific carrier. If you want to buy one off craigslist...have the seller meet you at a at&t store or T-Mobile and have the rep check if the imei for you. If the seller is unwilling to do that...don't trust it.
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I hear some story that the phone is good at the time people trade phones. However after 1 month, it become a bad ESN phone.
If Tmobile rep check the phone for me, will it avoid that situation?
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I hear some story that the phone is good at the time people trade phones. However after 1 month, it become a bad ESN phone.
If Tmobile rep check the phone for me, will it avoid that situation?
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honestly, even if the tmobile check, the imei will still be good during the transaction. it isn't until the seller contacts asurion which will most likely be a couple days later to report it lost or stolen. Im not sure how this can be prevented. Some people suggest to call t-mobile have the imei registered to your account right away, or even to leave a note on your account for it. But most likely asurion is the one who are blacklisting the phones not t-mobile.
This isn't CDMA. ESN phones are no good the moment they are determined that they are stolen or tied to account with a over due balance. On the other hand. GSM phones usually don't get blacklisted. And even if it is blacklisted it is only blacklisted to its specific carrier. So you shouldn't have a problem bringing the phone to T-Mobile.
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Sound right.
Furthermore, may I ask if i buy a ATT S3 to unlock and use it with Tmobile, will Tmobile data plan work on S3 ATT phone?
i c some thread said that it won't work, or it won't function fully. is that true?
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Sound right.
Furthermore, may I ask if i buy a ATT S3 to unlock and use it with Tmobile, will Tmobile data plan work on S3 ATT phone?
i c some thread said that it won't work, or it won't function fully. is that true?
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You'll get 3G with T-Mobile. It will work.
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You'll get 3G with T-Mobile. It will work.
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Is that just 3G or HSPA+ ? I was thinking the same thing ?
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You will not get 3G. If I am correct you will only pick up EDGE data since the networks run on different bands and AT&T phones are set to run on AT&T bands and not T-Mobile.
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You will not get 3G. If I am correct you will only pick up EDGE data since the networks run on different bands and AT&T phones are set to run on AT&T bands and not T-Mobile.
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Is there a way you can modify a band settings software wise, in order to work with TMO 4g prepaid plan? I have an i747 ATT unlocked and would like to use with TMO next month. Thanks for your input.
That I am aware of no. There is thread started on here were there is a bounty to get it working, but it seems like it is not going to work.
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Is there a way you can modify a band settings software wise, in order to work with TMO 4g prepaid plan? I have an i747 ATT unlocked and would like to use with TMO next month. Thanks for your input.
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I juts bought an unlocked AT&T S3 today and i am using T-Mobiles prepaid plan. So far i have been getting 4G in some places but EDGE mostly and i want to know what can be done about this. Im thinking of selling or trading this phone for a T-Mobile unlocked version. If there is anything else that can be done about this do let me know.
Quick question im trying to buy a few phones to donate around have a couple already but im getting mixed responses from people so here it is if a phone had a bad esn can it be used on diffrent carriers or is a no go all the way around?
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evo3d6 said:
Quick question im trying to buy a few phones to donate around have a couple already but im getting mixed responses from people so here it is if a phone had a bad esn can it be used on diffrent carriers or is a no go all the way around?
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Yes, it can be used on other networks. Mine is on Verizon Wireless. It's not the easiest process.
I flash phones all the time was just wanting to know if there would be any additional steps id have to take?
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I flash phones all the time was just wanting to know if there would be any additional steps id have to take?
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Oh, I couldn't tell you. I've only done it once. I had issues with 3g but went away once I flashed to GB rom.
Question is there anyway to get rid of the Sprint stuff so it won't keep complaining to update on stockish roms?
No there shouldn't be any diffrent steps as long as you have the donor phone you should be good.
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I got a D710 with bad esn, and use it on cricket. Stock roms suck, I rarely find an mms fix that works on most, and can't get voice mail notifications. AOSP is better, I get voicemail out the box, but nothing seemed to work on MMS. I'm not a pro, but have flashed my share of devices. Using a doaner phone means esn change, that is an iffy subject. Change it to use on another carrier? Why, when you could do the same thing and keep it on Sprint? Not legal either way. Bad esn means failed to pay the bill or was claimed lost/stolen. Either way, changing the esn to use it is considered fraud. The phone belongs to the carrier. No one would hunt you done for it, but you should know about it. Soon all the black listed cdma devices will be in one database, and just flashing a device won't be a way to use it. "Cleaning up" an esn or part it out will be all the devices with bad esns will be good for.
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Ya I have bought bad ESN phones just to flash them to cricket which is relatively heard other providers can be a lot harder but never tried. And cricket will pretty much allow anything on there network.
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May want to check also with the parties you're donating to. Many of them may not need to activate it - in which case ESN doesn't really matter. Bad ESNs can be flashed to other carriers, but Sprint may take some talks to get that working - and assuming they're nice enough to do it.
Well there's flashing and esn changing. Flashing is not touching the esn and taking it to another Sprint MNVO and just activating it either legitimately (some are byod) or just changing some settings on your end and then activating it on said mnvo carrier. Then there's changing the esn. If there are carriers that only allow their devices, then youd have to go this route which is a bit complicated and not for the average user. This involves obtaining a donor phone (one that the carrier sells) and taking the esn and a bunch of other settings from that phone and plugging it into the phone you want to use. Ive done this successfully with an epic touch 4g on Platinumtel and Virgin Mobile. It's been working perfectly for the last 9 months. It is completely legal. Where it becomes illegal and fraudulent is if you clone someone elses phone and do not pay the bill (read this for more info although it's still a gray area http://www.hackerscatalog.com/Services/TECH_Notes/one.html) So yes, you can do a lot with a phone with a bad esn if you know what you're doing or pay someone who does. Keep in mind it would be easier to take a sprint phone to virgin mobile or verizon phone to page plus, etc. A lot of the settings will stay the same and cdma carriers use different frequencies for data and you might end up with 1x for data. If you need a how to guide, I could post a link. Let me know.