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[Q] Samsung Galaxy Nexus OR Quad Core Phone

Im deciding between getting the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon or a quad core phone. I was originally 100% going to get the Nexus but now that it is only 16 gigs and no expandable storage, I dont feel so safe getting it.
I like the whole concept of the cloud but what about when your on a plane or out of the country and do not have service or wifi. Other things that are causing me to stray from this device are the screen is RGGB (Pentile) and not RGB (Regular one), the top and bottom bezels are huge, its an OMAP processor (not the faster Exynos), and the processor is slower than the one in the Samsung Galaxy S2 (even though its overclocked). Things I like about this phone are that its going to get updates quickly, its stock vanilla android (no manufacturer skins), it has an ENORMOUS battery, and it has 4G LTE. When quad core phones come out, they will lose the bottom android buttons, have longer battery life, most likely better screens, 4G LTE, and also will be just as thin. If the quad core phone is made by samsung, than i plan on buying it immediately because TouchWiz is the least intrusive manufacturer skin, they are usually on the thin side, and have AmoLED screens.
I have an upgrade right now which i can give to my mom and i have another one in March. What should i do. I also want a quad core phone that has an unlocked boot-loader just incase i want to run a stock vanilla android rom (Verizon usually doesn't do this, just the nexus has an unlocked boot-loader). Please help
P.S. Im not buying anything thats not 4G LTE and im not buying anything off contract.

Wait for dual quad core phone better

Obvious answer is obvious.
Dual Core Padfone.

If you have an upgrade now and in March, why not get the Galaxy Nexus now and then upgrade to quad core next year (and give the GN to your mum)? Do you really need quad core? Are you really going to use a first gen quad core or might it be more sensible to wait until the issues are ironed out (such as battery life, app compatibility and who knows what else).
You can always for the next gen gadget .... but then you will never have any at all!

1.) Do you really need more than 16 GB?
2.) If you read a lot of the reviews and asked people on XDA, a lot of them said they don't notice any pixels and the screen looks great
3.)With the hardware acceleration and the optimization between hardware-software, many people are saying it is considerably faster than the Samsung Galaxy S 2
4.) As far as my knowledge goes, it isn't overclocked but its actually underclocked from its original 1.5GHz
5.) Good luck getting more than 4 hours of juice with a quad core phone with standard battery technology unless battery technology is SERIOUSLY revamped
6.) You seriously would compromise having Ice Cream Sandwich first AND vanilla android for a faster phone with the touchwiz launcher?
7.) As far as I'm concerned, dual core technology is good enough for a phone. I don't need a quad core proccesor in my phone as I have a desktop and a laptop at home. (Also, what do you really need that uses quad core technology?)
8.) The bootloader might not be unlocked with some of these other phones, the developer base will not be huge, and it'll take a long time for the software to be obsoleted on this phone, as it is a phone in the "Nexus" line by Google and as mentioned earlier, there is a huge developer base so custom roms would be built fast and I would say probably be one of the most functional
Note: This is biased as I already pre-ordered my Galaxy Nexus so some points may be exaggerated
Note 2: I feel that a dual core phone would suffice as right now as I have a Motorola Milestone (International version of the Droid), so also keep that in mind when reading my points

What are you talking about? It's already been confirmed that the Verizon LTE model comes with 32GB...
Besides, it'll be late-2012 before the quad-core phones start coming out.

If Kal'el does what Nvidia states just having that processor alone would increase battery life. Most of the work would be done on the companion core unless you need more power. We won't know exactly how well it works until we see it running in the real world.
I have to add the Nexus is UNDERCLOCKED for battery life.
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hotleadsingerguy said:
What are you talking about? It's already been confirmed that the Verizon LTE model comes with 32GB...
Besides, it'll be late-2012 before the quad-core phones start coming out.
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nothings confirmed at all....their website actually changed to 16GB

The website has been updated a second time...
http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
says 32GB and not 16GB

I hear Verizon's version will be 32gb LTE with bigger battery for $299. Sounds perfect.
My PC is only a dualcore Intel, kinda weird with a quad core phone. Aside from gaming, not much will use all that power. Plus quads wont be start hitting until more summerish... with US carriers getting them starting Christmas. I don't think there is a need for quads ATM.
Plus I'd rather buy a quad tablet vs a phone.... that's where I do most of my gaming and core work.
Pick up the Nexus and the Quadcore Tegra3 Asus Transformer Prime. Perfect combination. Asus puts out updates as fast as Google does. Easily hand them my money in the future.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

OP, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357321 says now the web site list 32 GB only... Trolling or not, we don't know for sure

Ladrero said:
Wait for dual quad core phone better
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wait until octo core phones, those are the ones to wait for

POQbum said:
wait until octo core phones, those are the ones to wait for
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Sweet! Can't wait to run [email protected] on all my idle cores.

I've said this numerous times and will probably continue to say it several more times throughout the rest of this year and all of next year but whatever...
I respect the whole bigger better faster processor thing but seriously what game or application is out there that is seriously compelling enough to actually use all that power? Sure you can get a quad core Tegra 3 summer next year but I'd put any amount of money on it that summer 2013 people will be wanting Tegra 4's with higher clock speeds or additional cores and for what? There are a few games out there that will benefit from the added power but being that they'll have a high development cost and those developers want to sell as many of their games as they can every last one of them will be able to run at satisfactory levels on this phone which begs the question: are you really going to spend hours upon hours upon hours of your life playing whatever cell phone games make use of that awesome processor or do you just want it so you can show people your benchmark results?

You do really think a quad core processor is being made in the phones to just play games? Maybe you should do some more research on the actual benefits of a quad core phone. So many people are mis informed it's not even funny.
First, the quad core processors are MADE for more effecient battery life. The Tegra 3 actually has 5 cores, one companion core which runs at a very low clock rate and the numbers of cores being used changes due to the demand of the user.
Second, the 28nm gpu's will also be a lot more effecient on battery life. Still gotta read up on that. And the next generation LTE chipsets, for all you verizon folks, is going to be a lot more effecient as well.
I'm sick of people thinking that quad core processors are going to destory battery life without actually researching them.

graymonkey44 said:
You do really think a quad core processor is being made in the phones to just play games? Maybe you should do some more research on the actual benefits of a quad core phone. So many people are mis informed it's not even funny.
First, the quad core processors are MADE for more effecient battery life. The Tegra 3 actually has 5 cores, one companion core which runs at a very low clock rate and the numbers of cores being used changes due to the demand of the user.
Second, the 28nm gpu's will also be a lot more effecient on battery life. Still gotta read up on that. And the next generation LTE chipsets, for all you verizon folks, is going to be a lot more effecient as well.
I'm sick of people thinking that quad core processors are going to destory battery life without actually researching them.
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Exactly. Quads will have there place but is it reasonable to skip the Nexus now and wait... my answer is no.
Unless you have a late model phone already, the SGN seems a good buy right now.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

This is something where one could say that "if you could wait then wait until the 16 core phone comes out" ... obviously quad core phones are not available at this moment ... if you want to wait then there is always something better in the works.
With no quadcore phones available or announced yet ... I would say that go with GN LTE even though I would still wait to read some reviews and check developer base support because in the end LTE and battery are not friends and verizon is known to mess things up with the handsets. Like preloading bloat on a Nexus device. If custom ROMs is your thing (which I hope it is as you are here on XDA ) then wait for the reviews to come out.

Please do us all a favor and wait for the Quad-Core phone to come out, and then once the Quad-Core phone comes out in about 6 months, please come back to tell us that you're debating wether you should wait for Hexa-Core!
More Nexi available for us!

Edit: eh, way too sarcastic and nonsensical. I'm in a better mood now anyway. 4g is a good idea, that's majorly expanding next year. Quad cores will take a little time to impliment. Who *really* needs one anyway? Hell, I just got my first dualcore and ICS will be the only android thus far even able to begin utilizing it. Honestly, ill go out on a limb and say that the mobile phone market is the fastest developing consumer electronics sector on the planet. If you wait, something new will be just behind it. Play with the phones in the store, find one you really like and buy it. I like my rezound-defects aside-but I risk the possibility of no s off. if that's important get a phone that works within your constraints.

frostyllama said:
Edit: eh, way too sarcastic and nonsensical. I'm in a better mood now anyway. 4g is a good idea, that's majorly expanding next year. Quad cores will take a little time to impliment. Who *really* needs one anyway? Hell, I just got my first dualcore and ICS will be the only android thus far even able to begin utilizing it. Honestly, ill go out on a limb and say that the mobile phone market is the fastest developing consumer electronics sector on the planet. If you wait, something new will be just behind it. Play with the phones in the store, find one you really like and buy it. I like my rezound-defects aside-but I risk the possibility of no s off. if that's important get a phone that works within your constraints.
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Unfortunately I couldn't quote reply this in its original all be it creative form. As I read it right before going to sleep. Strange nightmares about long fingered zombies. Back OT you should just wait for quad cores, because once that baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious...
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nexus vs. droid 4?

looking to switch from an epic 4g to either a nexus or droid 4 (both are only $99). Can anyone give input on which you think would be the better of the two and why? The phone is used for calls, a few apps here and there but mainly for email and internet surfing (and tethering from time to time).
I do like having the full slide out keyboard, but it's not something that would kill me if it was missing as I have to use the on screen keyboards for my work iphone... It is handy but not a deciding factor - any info is appreciated!

Nexus all the way! Bad ass screen and ICS!
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If you don't need the hardware keyboard, I don't see how you ever consider the Droid 4 over the Galaxy Nexus. The Nexus absolutely crushes it.
Honestly if you're gonna compare a Moto device to the GN you should be comparing the RAZR MAXX to the Galaxy Nexus.

i don't think there are any other phones with slide out keyboards worth a crap on verizon other than the droid, is there? The samsung stratosphere, but it looked to be old technology.
if anyone can, could you check out the phones listed for verizon on wirefly.com and tell me which one is the best model? i work in the IT field with double bachelor's degrees, but couldn't tell you the first thing about these damn phones other than elementary specs because every time i turn the computer on there are new ones coming out.
The sprint lady said we had until March 13th or 14th iirc to get out of the contract with no termination fee so whatever we decide on, it has to be done before then

selfinfliction said:
i don't think there are any other phones with slide out keyboards worth a crap on verizon other than the droid, is there? The samsung stratosphere, but it looked to be old technology.
if anyone can, could you check out the phones listed for verizon on wirefly.com and tell me which one is the best model? i work in the IT field with double bachelor's degrees, but couldn't tell you the first thing about these damn phones other than elementary specs because every time i turn the computer on there are new ones coming out.
The sprint lady said we had until March 13th or 14th iirc to get out of the contract with no termination fee so whatever we decide on, it has to be done before then
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As I said above, if you don't need the keyboard, the Nexus is the winner all the way. The only reason to get the Droid 4 is the keyboard honestly. Because if you didn't need the keyboard it'd be between the RAZR MAXX and the GN, and even then unless you need the battery, the GN wins again.

Droid 4 has terrible ghosting when it comes to their screen. Check the Androidpolice review of the D4. It has a video demonstrating it.

Galaxy Nexus is a pretty bad ass device. I was coming from an Epic 4G Touch on Sprint and while that phone spec wise is better then the GN, there is just something about this phone that just makes it a winner.
The GN was was to big of a device for my wife so I got her an HTC Rezound. Still a little big for her but definitely better then the GN. The Rezound has a dual core 1.5ghz processor and a 720p screen resolution. Camera is also pretty good on that phone.
This is my first Nexus device and I must say I am liking the pure Android experience.

after some more research, i think we're going to hold off. we were looking at the specs of current phones compared to our epic's from 2010 and there isn't much that has changed other than the addition of dual core cpu's. it would really be a waste for us to get new phones now and be stuck with them for two years when the galaxy s3 and a few other quad core phones with possibly 16mp cameras will be coming out this summer.
having an original ICS phone would be good, but not enough to make us sacrifice getting outdated hardware for it. I was actually really surprised to see the nexus to have such low specs with all of the anxiety they produced in december.

martonikaj said:
If you don't need the hardware keyboard, I don't see how you ever consider the Droid 4 over the Galaxy Nexus. The Nexus absolutely crushes it.
Honestly if you're gonna compare a Moto device to the GN you should be comparing the RAZR MAXX to the Galaxy Nexus.
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Well said.

selfinfliction said:
after some more research, i think we're going to hold off. we were looking at the specs of current phones compared to our epic's from 2010 and there isn't much that has changed other than the addition of dual core cpu's. it would really be a waste for us to get new phones now and be stuck with them for two years when the galaxy s3 and a few other quad core phones with possibly 16mp cameras will be coming out this summer.
having an original ICS phone would be good, but not enough to make us sacrifice getting outdated hardware for it. I was actually really surprised to see the nexus to have such low specs with all of the anxiety they produced in december.
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While the genex doesn't have the greatest hardware specs, it will have the longest support life. Most phones are lucky to get one software update, the nexus line will have software updates to the latest version of android for quite some time. Plus ICS is optimized for the genex hardware.
By far the best phone I have had, even with the stock rom.

As someone who's used both, the ONLY thing the D4 has is it's physical keyboard. The functionality of the Nexus versus the D4 isn't even in the same league! I switched over from the DROID series to the Nexus just recently and couldn't be any more satisfied.

selfinfliction said:
after some more research, i think we're going to hold off. we were looking at the specs of current phones compared to our epic's from 2010 and there isn't much that has changed other than the addition of dual core cpu's. it would really be a waste for us to get new phones now and be stuck with them for two years when the galaxy s3 and a few other quad core phones with possibly 16mp cameras will be coming out this summer.
having an original ICS phone would be good, but not enough to make us sacrifice getting outdated hardware for it. I was actually really surprised to see the nexus to have such low specs with all of the anxiety they produced in december.
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Would love to know what you will be able to due with a quad core phone that you cannot do with a dual core phone. How much faster do we really need these processors? These are mobile operating systems that don't even take advantage of dual cores none the less quad cores.
My wife has a Rezound, dual core 1.5ghz processor and an EVO View Tab single core 1.5ghz processor. Do you think her Rezound does anything her tab can't? Do you think one feels faster then the other? I am not even sure they benchmark any differently although I haven't tested them up to each other.
Bottom line, single cores can get the job done plus when quad core phones get released you will start hearing about octo cores or something.
Do you think a webpage will open up quicker with a quad core device? Nope...The only thing it might help with is 3D gaming but no developer is going to limit their games to only quad cores anyway because that would take away from there profits of everyone else who does not own a quad core phone.

axion68 said:
While the genex doesn't have the greatest hardware specs, it will have the longest support life. Most phones are lucky to get one software update, the nexus line will have software updates to the latest version of android for quite some time. Plus ICS is optimized for the genex hardware.
By far the best phone I have had, even with the stock rom.
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i'm sure it is a great phone, but these are some of the same camera specs that were on phones literally from 2010 and if i buy something that already has antiquated hardware this year, then i'll be stuck with it until 2014 and that's just not a good decision on my part.

Coming from a Droid X that has ran everything from Apex to Tranquility. Simply put, the Galaxy Nexus is the best phone on the market because of Ice Cream Sandwich. It is everything people make it out to be. I've only had the phone for about a week, and I will only buy Nexus phones from here on out. I'm running Android 4.0.4 unlocked and rooted. You do not need to change kernels or Rom the phone. ICS is perfect. I might consider overclocking in the future as I've read that the CPU in the Galaxy Nexus was underclocked from factory.

selfinfliction said:
after some more research, i think we're going to hold off. we were looking at the specs of current phones compared to our epic's from 2010 and there isn't much that has changed other than the addition of dual core cpu's. it would really be a waste for us to get new phones now and be stuck with them for two years when the galaxy s3 and a few other quad core phones with possibly 16mp cameras will be coming out this summer.
having an original ICS phone would be good, but not enough to make us sacrifice getting outdated hardware for it. I was actually really surprised to see the nexus to have such low specs with all of the anxiety they produced in december.
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Laughable, you don't the deserve a great device like the Galaxy Nexus.
Let me give you a few hints too:
1. The Galaxy S 3 doesn't have to be quad core, we have already seen Qualcomm's Krait destroy Tegra 3, quad core is just a gimmick.
Samsung are making dual core Exynos processor which might or might not appear in the Galaxy S 3.
2. The part where you said 16 megapixel camera was very funny.
I highly doubt you would ever print anything that big, not that your printer would be big enough anyway, also there would be no benefit of having that resolution on the phone.
But I guess it's ok if you like big useless numbers?
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Would love to know what you will be able to due with a quad core phone that you cannot do with a dual core phone. How much faster do we really need these processors? These are mobile operating systems that don't even take advantage of dual cores none the less quad cores.
My wife has a Rezound, dual core 1.5ghz processor and an EVO View Tab single core 1.5ghz processor. Do you think her Rezound does anything her tab can't? Do you think one feels faster then the other? I am not even sure they benchmark any differently although I haven't tested them up to each other.
Bottom line, single cores can get the job done plus when quad core phones get released you will start hearing about octo cores or something.
Do you think a webpage will open up quicker with a quad core device? Nope...The only thing it might help with is 3D gaming but no developer is going to limit their games to only quad cores anyway because that would take away from there profits of everyone else who does not own a quad core phone.
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Nah, even 3D gaming wouldn't benefit too much from a quad core, only if the game was physics or AI heavy.

At this point waiting for the galaxy 3 would be smart. Especially with the simultaneous release rumors.

dario3040 said:
Laughable, you don't the deserve a great device like the Galaxy Nexus.
Let me give you a few hints too:
1. The Galaxy S 3 doesn't have to be quad core, we have already seen Qualcomm's Krait destroy Tegra 3, quad core is just a gimmick.
Samsung are making dual core Exynos processor which might or might not appear in the Galaxy S 3.
2. The part where you said 16 megapixel camera was very funny.
I highly doubt you would ever print anything that big, not that your printer would be big enough anyway, also there would be no benefit of having that resolution on the phone.
But I guess it's ok if you like big useless numbers?
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are you 15 years old? I don't "deserve" to have a specific phone? that's such a childish comment, the rest of your post doesn't even deserve an acknowledgement by dissecting it and providing the proper information.

[email protected] said:
Would love to know what you will be able to due with a quad core phone that you cannot do with a dual core phone. How much faster do we really need these processors? These are mobile operating systems that don't even take advantage of dual cores none the less quad cores.
My wife has a Rezound, dual core 1.5ghz processor and an EVO View Tab single core 1.5ghz processor. Do you think her Rezound does anything her tab can't? Do you think one feels faster then the other? I am not even sure they benchmark any differently although I haven't tested them up to each other.
Bottom line, single cores can get the job done plus when quad core phones get released you will start hearing about octo cores or something.
Do you think a webpage will open up quicker with a quad core device? Nope...The only thing it might help with is 3D gaming but no developer is going to limit their games to only quad cores anyway because that would take away from there profits of everyone else who does not own a quad core phone.
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oh i agree that phones now do a decent job, heck i'm still happy with my epic 4g that's nearly 2 years old. but the thing is, why would i pay the same price for antiquated equipment now (the nexus) when I know for a fact that much better stuff is coming out in a few months? That's like going to a car lot and buying a 2009 camaro for $45,000 when you can wait a few months and buy a 2010 corvette for $45,000. see what i mean? it just doesn't make good sense when i've got a phone that already works for what i need it to do.
but there is something that no one is considering here, what everyone keeps comparing these quad core phones to is dual core and single core processors running SINGLE THREAD applications, because there are not that many multi-threaded apps out for phones yet. I'm going to be stuck with whatever I get for 2 years out, and will guarantee that by the end of this year as apps get more complex and programmers get deeper into their thing, they will start using multi threads on most stuff, especially the droid OS itself.
i'm not sure how old you are(you may have seen this develop as well), but i've been working in the computer industry for over 13 years now and this is the identical issue as what happened when multi-core cpu's came out for computers. people were screaming bloody murder and how senseless multiple cores were on a computer and now i don't even think the cheapest cpu's are single core. I couldn't tell you how many times that people were hating on the multi-core cpu's talking about how their single core p4's were the best. As soon as they started programming multi-thread applications, those guys put their heads back in the ostrich holes because they knew they were wrong

selfinfliction said:
oh i agree that phones now do a decent job, heck i'm still happy with my epic 4g that's nearly 2 years old. but the thing is, why would i pay the same price for antiquated equipment now (the nexus) when I know for a fact that much better stuff is coming out in a few months? That's like going to a car lot and buying a 2009 camaro for $45,000 when you can wait a few months and buy a 2010 corvette for $45,000. see what i mean? it just doesn't make good sense when i've got a phone that already works for what i need it to do.
but there is something that no one is considering here, what everyone keeps comparing these quad core phones to is dual core and single core processors running SINGLE THREAD applications, because there are not that many multi-threaded apps out for phones yet. I'm going to be stuck with whatever I get for 2 years out, and will guarantee that by the end of this year as apps get more complex and programmers get deeper into their thing, they will start using multi threads on most stuff, especially the droid OS itself.
i'm not sure how old you are(you may have seen this develop as well), but i've been working in the computer industry for over 13 years now and this is the identical issue as what happened when multi-core cpu's came out for computers. people were screaming bloody murder and how senseless multiple cores were on a computer and now i don't even think the cheapest cpu's are single core. I couldn't tell you how many times that people were hating on the multi-core cpu's talking about how their single core p4's were the best. As soon as they started programming multi-thread applications, those guys put their heads back in the ostrich holes because they knew they were wrong
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Mr been in the industry for 13 years... I been in it for like 4 years and even I know that about the only multithreaded mainstream programs used in desktops are computer games and even then its rare

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Mr been in the industry for 13 years... I been in it for like 4 years and even I know that about the only multithreaded mainstream programs used in desktops are computer games and even then its rare
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there are plenty of database applications that utilize multi-threads, we actually have a couple of GIS mapping programs and plugins that use 16 cores at a time. ( you'd be surprised how processing intensive 500-1000mb maps with 50 or 75 layers is ) I can't get into the specifics of it, but there are hundreds if not thousands of every day applications that take advantage of simultaneous multithreading. what i manage is just a microscopic amount of what is available.
You'll have to forgive me because i'm not up on phones too much but i would say i'm fairly decent with computers, after all i do have an associates in network systems, a bachelors in information systems security, and am finishing up with my masters of information systems in June. Just these damn phones change so much and i don't have time to keep up with anything that doesn't have to do with school or work.
I really didn't mean to offend anyone about their nexus if this is where the thread is going, just because i don't think it's a good deal for me, doesn't mean it's not a good deal for someone else. heck, i've really been super happy with my epic since i switched it over to ICS, that makes a world of difference even on an old phone so i'm sure it runs great on the nexus as well.

Next generation CPU and GPU is here (snapdragon S4) and behinde the corner (exynos 5)

Doesn't it bother you? I really want the Note 2, but to think devices are shipped now with SnapDragon S4 Pro, 4 cores A15, 28NM with Adreno 320, and soon Exynox 5 Dual, also A15, 32NM and Mali-T604 really bother me. This is why I've waited for HTC's phablet, but it wasn't released yesterday
What do you think? I know the Note 2 has great performance, but soon others will have better technology... And I'm going to buy mine (if I'll buy) on December - right before CES 2013!
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i'm going back and forth between getting the note 2 and waiting a phone with the exynos 5250/new mali gpu.

I feel like my galaxy nexus is already as fast as it can possibly get, and I'm sure the note 2 is even faster. I don't think I will need the newer tech at least for my use I won't
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There will always be something better,in some way, than whatever you have/buy.
The note 2 is still overall the best device for me so I'm getting it.
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you will keep waiting that way. once the exynos 5 dualcore is there you will be waiting for the quadcore version. something better is always around the corner. you say you will buy a new phone in december, so just come back in december, choose the phone that is best for you at that moment, and buy it.

DubelBoom said:
Doesn't it bother you? I really want the Note 2, but to think devices are shipped now with SnapDragon S4 Pro, 4 cores A15, 28NM with Adreno 320, and soon Exynox 5 Dual, also A15, 32NM and Mali-T604 really bother me. This is why I've waited for HTC's phablet, but it wasn't released yesterday
What do you think? I know the Note 2 has great performance, but soon others will have better technology... And I'm going to buy mine (if I'll buy) on December - right before CES 2013!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_(GPU)
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In the tech world, there's always going to be the next big thing. How long should one wait is a matter of personal preference. For me, I get excited by new technology, but I always shop behind the curve, to get the best possible deal.
Here, in the US, the carriers make us sign contracts in return for subsidized pricing. So a $600-$800 phone is sold to us for $200-$300. After a few months, price drops of $50-$100 are very common. That is the time when I buy.
My first smartphone (EVO 4G) was released in April 2010 for $200. I purchased mine in Dec. 2010 for $100. Was the phone old? Sure, but did I care? No. It worked just fine, and a year later (Nov. 2011) I scored a Photon (released in April 2011) on Cragslist.
I am hoping the Note II gets released soon (October) so I can buy it in Dec./Jan. It is rumored to be around $250-$300 and by waiting a few months I can hopefully save a few $$.
It will still work and be more powerful than most devices on the market. Even if HTC, LG and others come out with a super-phone with the QC S4, it doesn't render the Note II obsolete.
So what if the HTC Quad can beat the Note II by a few points in some benchmark.
The Note has far more compelling features for me. As long as it can do the work, I don't care how fast or slow my device is. And with that 3000 maH battery, I don't foresee a problem in device usage time either.

If youre gonna have the phone a long time, 2 year + then i think you should wait and buy the top of the line.
If you change phone every year or more dont worry.. Just buy a new when a killerphone arrive
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The Note II will be a powerhouse for years, and by they time it isn't you'll already have moved on to something else.

you are all right about there will always be a newer technology around the corner, but the snapdragon S4 Pro is already here!!
i don't care about the benchmarks, i only want games to work smooth. on my Desire HD games get stuck and lag, so i want top line phone, so i could keep it for about 2 years.
sadly, im not old enough to decide by my self to sell and by a new phone, if i was, every year i would sell my current phone (in israel) and by a new one at the USA. this way i save a lot of money
the problem with the Mali-400MP is that its old... it is the GPU on the S2!!! i dont want to buy technology from more than a year ago!

GPUs and CPUs have already progressed to the point where the law of diminishing returns is starting to take effect in the realm of mobile phones. You can only push so many pixels onto a handheld screen before our eyes can't tell the difference, and the Android OS currently only needs a certain amount of gflops to do what it needs to do smoothly. I don't play PC-level demanding games on my phone, otherwise I would think differently - but right now, I'm mostly just concerned about browser preformance and the OS running without lag even with all of the widgets and programs that I need running in the background. I think the Galaxy Note II should be able to accomplish that easily. I, too, would like to see a GPU better than the Mali-400MP in the SGN2, but as long as it can handle android games and render webpages quickly, then I don't think it should be a big factor in your decision.
I think improvements in battery life, RAM, and screen are mainly what I'm looking for in this generation of phones. For the Galaxy Note II, the first two were substantially improved so I'm fairly content with that. I just don't see any better alternatives out there. A possible alternative would be the HTC 5" phone which is going to be announced soon, but I don't know all of the details on that yet. I'm not expecting much out of that phone though because, while HTC has good build quality and specs, they have been going down the path of sacrificing battery life, locking bootloaders, no SD-card, no removable battery, etc... The Galaxy Note II doesn't have these problems, and the one shortcoming (it doesn't have a Exynos 5 Dual with a Mali-T604) isn't really that big of a deal to me.
TL;DR: The SGN2 is probably the best phone you can get in the near future if you don't play extremely graphically-intensive games on your phone.

I don't play a lot of heavy games as Modern Combat 3, Asphalt 6 etc. but, when I play these games I want them to work smooth! And I'm not sure the Mali-400MP could do it in a year from now.

The new Mali-T604 will have OpenGL ES 3.0 support (Mali-400MP only supports up to 2.0). Does anyone how much this will affect performance for later releases? I would imagine that the SGN2 would still be able to play 99% of games released within the 2 years with a decent frame rate.
I don't really like playing games on my phone because the interface is holding it back in my opinion. Well, at least for FPS and anything that requires precision and more than 2 buttons.

Well my adreno 205 rage.
I can play with adreno 205 all 2012 games..
Nova 3 without problems,Max Payne without any problems..

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Well my adreno 205 rage.
I can play with adreno 205 all 2012 games..
Nova 3 without problems,Max Payne without any problems..
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my phone also have Adreno 205, and its terrible! games like Jetpack Joyride and Granny Smith are laggy..

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I don't play a lot of heavy games as Modern Combat 3, Asphalt 6 etc. but, when I play these games I want them to work smooth! And I'm not sure the Mali-400MP could do it in a year from now.
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Who knows what we are doing a year from now.
Faster CPUs don't mean that much right now in some ways, because Android doesn't probably take advantage of multithreading.
It's quite possible that a year from now, threading is improved, and we see a serious performance increase with the same hardware.
Also notice this review:
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/09/samsung-galaxy-note-ii-hands-on-bigger-got-better/
specifically this quote:
The biggest improvement, though, is the phone’s performance. It absolutely flies, and it’s incredibly smooth. Whether that’s due to the 1.6GHz quad-core Exynos processor or simply the addition of Jelly Bean (Android 4.1) we don’t know, but I tried hard to make it stutter and lag, and I couldn’t.
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This comes from a guy who said the Note was 'very not good', partially due to its lag.
You can be sure he went into the Note 2 determined to prove he's still right and the Note concept still sucks.
The fact that he failed is pretty encouraging.
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Who knows what we are doing a year from now.
Faster CPUs don't mean that much right now in some ways, because Android doesn't probably take advantage of multithreading.
It's quite possible that a year from now, threading is improved, and we see a serious performance increase with the same hardware.
Also notice this review:
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/09/samsung-galaxy-note-ii-hands-on-bigger-got-better/
specifically this quote:
This comes from a guy who said the Note was 'very not good', partially due to its lag.
You can be sure he went into the Note 2 determined to prove he's still right and the Note concept still sucks.
The fact that he failed is pretty encouraging.
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I know its great, and the CPU is awesome, no complains. My problem is the GPU, its.......old!

But everything always gonna look old to you unless you are Apple fanboy/girl. I don't mean that negatively, but let's face it. By the time SoC manufacturor announce new chip, a phone manufacturor have to wait a few months to get their hand on the chip, then a few months later, engineering unit is out. By the time the production unit hit the shelf then that is like half a year already, by then another SoC company gonna announce something new. If all the SoC and phone manufacturors act like Apple and keep everything secret then may be you won't feel that way but that's simply because you are kept in the dark.

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But everything always gonna look old to you unless you are Apple fanboy/girl. I don't mean that negatively, but let's face it. By the time SoC manufacturor announce new chip, a phone manufacturor have to wait a few months to get their hand on the chip, then a few months later, engineering unit is out. By the time the production unit hit the shelf then that is like half a year already, by then another SoC company gonna announce something new. If all the SoC and phone manufacturors act like Apple and keep everything secret then may be you won't feel that way but that's simply because you are kept in the dark.
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I know, but the Mali-400MP was shipped with the Galaxy S2! This is very old in "smartphones years".

Man you talk about the mali400 being old like it experienced the great depression. How depressing. It is still a nice and widely supported gpu. The adreno320 is prbably better but doesnt get as much support which would be a bummer for the gamers. If you really want to wait for the t604 find somewhere else to talk and whine about that. The mali is coming whether you like it or not and i am quite sure many are happy with the decision.
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I know, but the Mali-400MP was shipped with the Galaxy S2! This is very old in "smartphones years".
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It it concerns you that much, I don't know what to tell you. Just don't get the Note I guess.
I don't think anyone can prove/disprove theories on how the Note 2 will be in the future.
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How long do you think before the Note 2 gets/feels outdated?

Im sure this question doesnt really get thrown around alot considering the Note 2 is still a relatively new release. However, im curious to know how long before it starts to feel "outdated" just like the Galaxy S3. Im sure im not the only one who feels that way towards the S3 Int version. I mean one of the reason i switched to a Note 2 was because of the bigger screen and the extra 1GB Ram...feels like this could be future proof atleast for some time but thats also what i felt about the S3 when i first got it until they started releasing phones with 2gigs and full HD screens. What do you guys think?

When samsung releases note 3 I think.. and thats about 3rd to 4th quarter next year..
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And also not so many apps today optimize quad core processor.. and when that time comes note 2 is still running smoothly because what you are holding right now is not yet fully optimize.. wait until all developers optimize their apps and you will see the real note 2..
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I'd say when the Note 3 comes out or a worthy equal from a competitor
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Yeah but doesn't it put you off sometimes when your phone hasn't even been through half of its product cycle and already you start seeing leaks of its successor and then suddenly all the spot light is taken away from your current device. I'm proud of showing my friends how much better is the note 2 compared to his one x and the spot light helps.
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Yeah but doesn't it put you off sometimes when your phone hasn't even been through half of its product cycle and already you start seeing leaks of its successor and then suddenly all the spot light is taken away from your current device. I'm proud of showing my friends how much better is the note 2 compared to his one x and the spot light helps.
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It is just a device and it is all in your mind. Get over it.

I think its already outdated...
I keep trying to reassure myself by telling myself that the software support in xda is awesome...
I guess I will have to stick to this device a little longer...
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Yeah but doesn't it put you off sometimes when your phone hasn't even been through half of its product cycle and already you start seeing leaks of its successor and then suddenly all the spot light is taken away from your current device. I'm proud of showing my friends how much better is the note 2 compared to his one x and the spot light helps.
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I have both note 2 and one x as well as an s3, and the hox screen is by far the best amongst the 3 in terms of crispness in my opinion.
But back on topic haha, i think it is good that technology is moving so fast. Just means better stuff for us to upgrade to in a year. The note 2 is powerful enough to withstand the changes that will occur in the next 12 months at the very least.
Try not to look at it as being in the spotlight, because regardless of what samsung or anyone else bring, the note 2 is still so unique that it can stand on it own until something else of similar size and with a stylus comes along
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It is just a device and it is all in your mind. Get over it.
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I wish it were true for everyone but fortunately not everyone thinks alike. I see it a bit more than just a device..It should be able to work as fluidly as it was when I first had it at least for the few years ahead, and keep up with newer apps that demand more hardware resources. I like to have the greatest and the latest or at least try, but that's me
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I think its already outdated...
I keep trying to reassure myself by telling myself that the software support in xda is awesome...
I guess I will have to stick to this device a little longer...
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Yupe I tell that to myself too from time to time...
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Now and for some time in the future, the specs of our devices should suffice. Get a new battery in a year, keep installing new updates and enjoy your awesome phone

bushako said:
Im sure this question doesnt really get thrown around alot considering the Note 2 is still a relatively new release. However, im curious to know how long before it starts to feel "outdated" just like the Galaxy S3. Im sure im not the only one who feels that way towards the S3 Int version. I mean one of the reason i switched to a Note 2 was because of the bigger screen and the extra 1GB Ram...feels like this could be future proof atleast for some time but thats also what i felt about the S3 when i first got it until they started releasing phones with 2gigs and full HD screens. What do you guys think?
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I've used the note (1) for almost a year and wouldn't have bought note 2 if it wasn't for my kid needing a new phone (my note 1). As I still feel the Note 1 is still in the game, especially when JB is released, I don't think I will feel my note 2 being outdated for atleast 2 years.
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I've used the note (1) for almost a year and wouldn't have bought note 2 if it wasn't for my kid needing a new phone (my note 1). As I still feel the Note 1 is still in the game, especially when JB is released, I don't think I will feel my note 2 being outdated for atleast 2 years.
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Hehe. In my case it was Mom who got my old HTC Desire. (She loves it.)
The Note 2 has just the right size for me and - compared to the Desire - more space than I'd even know what to do with, so my guess is I'll still be happy with it in 2 years. But who knows what they'll throw on the market in the near future...

When the s4 is released, my note 2 will probably become a secondary device.....depending on the actual specs released on the s4.
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Until Note 2 keeps getting updates and new features I'll be more than happy to be with it.
The moment ,say Key Lime Pie(unlikely) or a later version, is not released for us, the phone will feel outdated. Cause the quad core specs should hold up for a couple of years and all that is needed are constant updates giving way to new features.
Thats what i feel.

It will probably be awhile before we start seeing more cores utilized properly aside from games. There aren't that many heavy duty apps for mobiles. Even apps that take up a lot of ram don't need a lot of horse power. We need some distributed networking stuff and some real Photoshop and video/audio conversion apps to utilize the cores.
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It will probably be awhile before we start seeing more cores utilized properly aside from games. There aren't that many heavy duty apps for mobiles. Even apps that take up a lot of ram don't need a lot of horse power. We need some distributed networking stuff and some real Photoshop and video/audio conversion apps to utilize the cores.
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My thoughts exactly.

There are a few aspects which I consider when buying a phone, and for determining if a phone is outdated or not.
I'll give you my thoughts on when the Note II will be "outdated" - keep in mind this is relative and subject to your own opinion.
The Note II is a great device and in my opinion, it will still be great to use for the coming 2 years (which is standard contract length).
The following aspects are which I use to determine if a phone is outdated:
Battery
The Note II has a decent battery, 3100 mAh is very good for any phone. But the capacity is relative to the hardware of the phone; because of the screen size and quad-core CPU you cannot compare this 1:1 with, say, a 4 inch dual-core phone. The hardware of the Note II drains alot more battery capacity than a 4 inch dual-core phone would. Nonetheless, you can get 36-40 hours out of the battery, which still is better than most phones nowadays.
Screen
The screen of the Note II isn't it's strongest aspect. Sure, the 5.5" 1280x720 screen is nice, but what is important is the ppi (pixels per inch). The Note II has 267 ppi. In a few months there will be some phones with a 5" 1920x1080 screen, resulting in 443 ppi. This is alot better than the Note II. For now the Note II has a good screen, but it will be less attractive once the 5" 1920x1080 phones are released.
The screen won't be damaged by normal use, which is good.
CPU
An Exynos 4412 quad-core CPU at 1.6 GHz is a very good CPU. One of the best at the present moment. However, the coming Intel CPU's in Android phones will give it a run for it's money.
GPU
The Note II comes with a quad-core Mali-400MP GPU clocked at 400 MHz. This will provide the Note II with all the graphics processing power it needs and won't be surpassed soon. It's supposed to render as well as the PS3 and XBox 360. However, NVidia's Tegra 4 (not released yet) will be better.
Memory
2 GB RAM is very good, and any phone won't need more for quite a while.
Build quality
It might feel a little cheap, but it is quite strong and well-made. I am using it without a case (but with flip cover) and after about 2 months, it is still undamaged. This may vary between users but for me, it's a plus.
Development possibilities
The Note II is easy to root and there is active development going on. No downside here besides the fact that once rooted on stock ROM, you can no longer recieve OTA updates from Samsung.
Camera
The 8 MP camerica is ok. There are already better camera's in some other phones, but alot of the currently available phones have worse camera's.
Update likeliness
Samsung will surely keep the phone updated with the latest Android versions available. No worries about not being able to have the latest Android version on your phone - and if Samsung decides to stop updating, the active development community will probably provide you with a custom ROM of the latest version.
In conclusion: in the coming few months the Note II will be surpassed by other phones. However, it is a decent phone and can surely last you 2 years without losing much of it's power. So, yes, in terms of specifications, it will be outdated by the end of 2013. However, it will still be a great device and in terms of consumer satisfaction, it will not be outdated for atleast 2 years.

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It will probably be awhile before we start seeing more cores utilized properly aside from games. There aren't that many heavy duty apps for mobiles. Even apps that take up a lot of ram don't need a lot of horse power. We need some distributed networking stuff and some real Photoshop and video/audio conversion apps to utilize the cores.
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Im curious though, since when was dual core never enough that they had the need to increase the number of cores. Not that im complaining but isnt the main issue with experiencing some sluggishness is due to the apps running in some sort of a virtual environment( forgive me if i use the wrong terms here)? I figured why not just increase the clock speed and improve the OS to be able to fully utilize what resources are available from the hardware to its maximum potential. The way i see it...hardware wise they have taken huge leaps where as software needs alot of catching up to do...and that gap is still ever increasing.

bushako said:
Im curious though, since when was dual core never enough that they had the need to increase the number of cores. Not that im complaining but isnt the main issue with experiencing some sluggishness is due to the apps running in some sort of a virtual environment( forgive me if i use the wrong terms here)? I figured why not just increase the clock speed and improve the OS to be able to fully utilize what resources are available from the hardware to its maximum potential. The way i see it...hardware wise they have taken huge leaps where as software needs alot of catching up to do...and that gap is still ever increasing.
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Same goes for x86 architecture. There are a lot more apps that use it, that really benefit from it too, but some of the lesser apps that utilize use it in a faux way that doesn't really benefit from it. A lot of it is education and engineering but the other part of it is storage is still the bottleneck. Ssd's are still kind of slow unless utilized in good raid array. The current Intel core CPU's can decimate all the bits thrown at it in most mainstream systems.
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I got a note 2 for myself and an S3 as a present to my mom (she didn't want the big size at all) for me the note 2 specs are top notch.
For CPU I think the exynos 4412 quad is the best second to that is probably the snap dragon s4 quad
Ram 2 gigs is pretty much the standard for smart phones now and don't think will change in quite some time.
screen is beautiful. Tbh when you look closely with note 2 and s3 side by side the s3 is better but that's because of the higher ppi
Don't forget the s pen is a huge selling point no other phone except the note 1, 2 has it. Especially with all the awesome Features of It.

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Same goes for x86 architecture. There are a lot more apps that use it, that really benefit from it too, but some of the lesser apps that utilize use it in a faux way that doesn't really benefit from it. A lot of it is education and engineering but the other part of it is storage is still the bottleneck. Ssd's are still kind of slow unless utilized in good raid array. The current Intel core CPU's can decimate all the bits thrown at it in most mainstream systems.
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So in other words unless there aren't many apps being developed that require more powerful processors and ram then there's really not that much to look forward to with the upcoming s4 performance wise other than an increase in display size, pixel density and perhaps battery life... I can't imagine how much more improvements can be done over the current performance of the note 2. This thing is literally by far the best phone experience since my last iphone device.
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First Impressions after going crazy over my Pre-Order

The Note 3 is very fast and Buttery Smooth like the HTC One's Span dragon 600 processor but even a bit faster with the 800
I wish there was a way for the camera settings to stick when you change them like ISO.. if you do auto for taking pictures.. especially in low light, the pictures will look terrrrible! you need to set ISO to 800 or 400
The speakers are quite frankly a disappointment.. the note 2's speakers are indeed better so you can imagine how the htc one trounces the speakers in quality.. really really not sure what samsung was thinking when downgrading the speaker quality
The front facing camera quality is also not Good.. the note 2's front facing camera was good but the color production was pretty bad... the front camera on the note 3 is gritty and the saturation levels are so bland
Im thankful for the auto correct on the keyboard but its very here and there.. not as good as some other options but it's OK and i find myself using it more than i used the stock keyboard on the note 2
Vibrate feedback on the device is just ok.. htc and Motorola does a better job with the vibrate feedback.. on the note 3 it feels slightly weak and on some other devices you can feel the heft of the feedback if that makes sense.
The Spen is clearly more accurate to the touch than the note 2.. i happen to have need penmanship and it does show when i write with the Spen
The many software options on the note 3 may take up space but the good thing is that you can disable the apps or turn them on or off so they arent runnning.. the battery is really really really good on this damn phone Heavy use and 4 hours and 5 minutes with the screen on and the battery is at 43 percent. I think i can get a good 7 hours screen on time or more so with all these apps on the device, they dont seem to wear down the battery even though i know the battery life would be even better without all of these features... i actually like all the stuff on here.. human get bored quickly and having customizations options on your phone is a top notch plus!
O did i say the speaker was on my last nerves? lollll ... it's a little better than the nexus 4, LG G2 and Galaxy Nexus speakers but if the quality was degraded any further, it would be on par with those. (no disrespect to yall phones.. just giving an honest overview)
For those that says the Leather like material feels like plastic... well hey.. thats their hands and i cant tell them any different but for ME, it does feel like Leather..maybe Pleather lol..Feels like a Leather Wallet's material..i really like it and i found that the phone does not get hot like the note 2 did at times or even the Nexus 4.. good job Samsung
The Multi-Window Feature was improved and much easier to navigate!
The device is clearly the epitome of what Project Butter should stand for ... the battery is an addictive thing to own... and this phone is a phone to keep... however, will i be keeping it myself? if i can tolerate these speakers with using earphones more often and if samsung sends an update to iron out some settings sticking in the camera app then I'm on board for keeping this sucka for a while!
If you have questions, I can try to answer for you. thanks and if there are any grammatical errors, excuse me.. i dont feel like going back to correct them all lol

Hey, this may be kinda off topic but how does the snapdragon 800 compare to the 600 in daily use? I'm thinking either about the s4 or note 3 but leaning towards s4 cuz of the price..
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ryukiri said:
Hey, this may be kinda off topic but how does the snapdragon 800 compare to the 600 in daily use? I'm thinking either about the s4 or note 3 but leaning towards s4 cuz of the price..
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You're fine.. I was saying how the HTC one was really smooth with the 600 and there's a tiny bit of speed added in the 800..its not tremendously significant but they're both very good

ryukiri said:
Hey, this may be kinda off topic but how does the snapdragon 800 compare to the 600 in daily use? I'm thinking either about the s4 or note 3 but leaning towards s4 cuz of the price..
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Noticable difference for sure. I have noticed many things take far less time. When I used Nandroid Manager to restore my apps from the Nandroid I had made on my S4 it took half the time that it did on my S4 usually. All across the board things are so much faster on this then the S4.

Thanks for the mini review. I'm really glad they brought auto-correct back, maybe Samsung struck a deal with Apple or something.
As for the speaker, as long as it's louder than the LG G2 I'm okay, the G2's speaker was horrendous.
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Thanks for the mini review. I'm really glad they brought auto-correct back, maybe Samsung struck a deal with Apple or something.
As for the speaker, as long as it's louder than the LG G2 I'm okay, the G2's speaker was horrendous.
I was supposed to receive my Note 3 yesterday but UPS made an exception for some reason, maybe the Truck broke down? It's now scheduled for MONDAY! SOB!
Good new is I did get my order in for the black Gear watch, with the 25 percent off coupon, $224 is a not too bad...

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Thanks for the mini review. I'm really glad they brought auto-correct back, maybe Samsung struck a deal with Apple or something.
As for the speaker, as long as it's louder than the LG G2 I'm okay, the G2's speaker was horrendous.
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Thanks for the mini review. I'm really glad they brought auto-correct back, maybe Samsung struck a deal with Apple or something.
As for the speaker, as long as it's louder than the LG G2 I'm okay, the G2's speaker was horrendous.
I was supposed to receive my Note 3 yesterday but UPS made an exception for some reason, maybe the Truck broke down? It's now scheduled for MONDAY! SOB!
Good new is I did get my order in for the black Gear watch, with the 25 percent off coupon, $224 is a not too bad...
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I would be really annoyed.. Thankful ups got me mine yesterday.. The shopping said by the end of the day and they damn sure meant by the end.. I received it at 510pm est lol

Lol, oh man. Monday! That sucks, I get mine tonight when I get home at 530...
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You're fine.. I was saying how the HTC one was really smooth with the 600 and there's a tiny bit of speed added in the 800..its not tremendously significant but they're both very good
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The biggest difference in the 2 SoC's are they cores they use. The 600 uses Krait 300 cores, while the 800 uses krait 400 cores. The krait 400 cores are a higher clock speed out of the box, as well as faster L2 cache. Let's also not forget your getting the Adreno 330 vs the 320, which also offers a bump in frame rates on things.
I would assume the 800 would be able to OC higher as well. Depending on the bin of the chip and voltages.
Also the 800 supports 4K video recording, granted its really gimmick at the moment, and the 600 does not.

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The biggest difference in the 2 SoC's are they cores they use. The 600 uses Krait 300 cores, while the 800 uses krait 400 cores. The krait 400 cores are a higher clock speed out of the box, as well as faster L2 cache. Let's also not forget your getting the Adreno 330 vs the 320, which also offers a bump in frame rates on things.
I would assume the 800 would be able to OC higher as well. Depending on the bin of the chip and voltages.
Also the 800 supports 4K video recording, granted its really gimmick at the moment, and the 600 does not.
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Thanks a lot for that info. I just got by feel.. Might be better if I had then side by side but the HTC one is no joke when it comes to speed and this note 3 just takes it up a notch as benchmarks show but there are all types of conspiracies out about samung and the benchmark thing but I just go by feel and you can experience the fluidity instead of seeing numbers

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Thanks a lot for that info. I just got by feel.. Might be better if I had then side by side but the HTC one is no joke when it comes to speed and this note 3 just takes it up a notch as benchmarks show but there are all types of conspiracies out about samung and the benchmark thing but I just go by feel and you can experience the fluidity instead of seeing numbers
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Both are good chipsets. On paper the 800 is better. But that doesn't mean in really life it is. As you said, real world feel. I know when I played with note 3 at my store, it was faster than my 2 that's for sure.

Definitely faster than the note 2. Noticeably
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I would be really annoyed.. Thankful ups got me mine yesterday.. The shopping said by the end of the day and they damn sure meant by the end.. I received it at 510pm est lol
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Lmao!! Same here they shown up at exactly 5:05pm 55 minutes before I had to show up for work. ..
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ryukiri said:
Hey, this may be kinda off topic but how does the snapdragon 800 compare to the 600 in daily use? I'm thinking either about the s4 or note 3 but leaning towards s4 cuz of the price..
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Daily usage you will be fine with either but if you play higher end games note 3 plays them smoother like mc4 or dungeon hunter 4. But if you don't want lag and 32 gb storage note 3 is the way to go.
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