I'm very unhappy with my new Desire. It is of course, also, the problem regarding "the change" from WM to Android, but... I cannot choose "My location" and now I just discovered that YOU CAN'T SYNC NOTES AND TASK with Outlook. This is unbelievable! If the problem with My location and weather shown in the HOME Screen it's not so serious (you can check the weather on line) the problem with the sync it's awful, and there is no program on the "market" to solve it.
I can't believe that I just bought a 500 euro phone and it is so useless. Is there any chance to replace the famous "Android" with a real OS like WM 6.5 (from HD2) for example???
Please I'm desperate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
buy a HD2 instead. (!!!11!1!!!)
Why did you buy an Android phone if you want to install WM 6.5 on it?
Why do people still use Outlook is beyond my belief
Why do people still sync to a computer (that can only be in one place at a time) is again beyond my belief.
I have my Desire for 2 weeks now and I never even installed the sync app, don't even know what it looks like.
But to answer your question: NO you can't replace Android to the fake ... i mean real OS Windows Mobile.
I came from Windows Mobile and I couldn't be happier i got rid of it. Stop thinking offline, and start thinking cloud sync... it'll eventually be the default weather we like it or not.
You can argue (From a technical pov) that WM6.5 is a real OS and that Android isn't. In fact even Symbian would be more of a "Real" OS than Android. The difference is that those two OSes can run native code and Android just runs everything via Java. This doesn't mean much to most users but to developers it means a lot.
someone please shut this thread before the OP gets flamed to death......
If native code means a deficiency of decent apps, where even the few good ones are jerky, clunky and Windows CE...ey then I'm all for Java - go Java.
I left the HD2 because Windows Mobile is unreliable (believe it or not) because it was never meant to handle such complex skins as Sense UI and therefore leaked memory like a teabag full of pulped brain; and also because there was a deficiency of decent apps (despite its supposed ability to handle 'native code'). If it's so great then why are most of the .cabs people install fixes and patches rather than ACTUAL apps? And why are there no decent alternative Facebook apps etc? Is Windows Mobile 'TOO GOOD' for this sort of software development? For an OS a fifth of the age of Windows Mobile, Android has ten times as many IM apps (for example). Why is this so?
Android allows for one to code/install apps for even CORE applications like SMS and Email: show me a decent email replacement for Windows Mobile? One that ACTUALLY REPLACES the native one....you can't? Android can.
And as capricious as it might seem the rubbish email client in Windows Mobile was one of the reasons I started to loath the OS. What is the point of the 'click to scroll right' and 'pictures blocked for security reasons' BS??? Is it REALLY necessary? And why is it so....ugly?
Anyway I thought I'd get my word in before this thread gets closed. If you can't move with the times then go and buy a TyTn 2 or something. Outlook syncing will soon be as dead as Windows Mobile so for Google to include it would be a backwards step, being as more necessary features are still to be implemented.
It's all about the cloud.
P.S. research before jumping in and buying a phone as you seem to have very specific requirements. Outlook task and notes syncing is a VERY SPECIFIC requirement which in the overall scheme of a burgeoning OS would be deemed unnecessary by Google. I wouldn't buy a Renault Megane if I needed a tractor.
I think it's just a case of people not liking change at all. So the different and sometimes better things that Android provides seem not so good.
Why do people still use Outlook is beyond my belief
Why do people still sync to a computer (that can only be in one place at a time) is again beyond my belief.
I have my Desire for 2 weeks now and I never even installed the sync app, don't even know what it looks like.
But to answer your question: NO you can't replace Android to the fake ... i mean real OS Windows Mobile.
I came from Windows Mobile and I couldn't be happier i got rid of it. Stop thinking offline, and start thinking cloud sync... it'll eventually be the default weather we like it or not.
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For work purposes most likely? Information that has to be stored securely in outlook on a system which they DO NOT want in the cloud? But would like to sync via hard wire or secure connection to the device?
Outlook syncing will be alive as long as Microsoft push it and businesses continue to use it and would rather not have information in the cloud, even Windows Phone 7 offers outlook syncing, it isn't going anywhere.
I havn't tried but doesn't htc sync allow to sync with Outlook?? I though that was what it said on the box....
Anyhow, i've just come from an HTC Touch HD where i have tried all the versions of windows and senses and other interfaces and i have to say i am loving my new desire!!!!
I am no developer but Android is so much better adapted to a smartphone, it's fast, fluid and allows all sorts of customization and when i had my HD, as far as i can remember, there were like 20 apps on the marketplace, i thin android market is at 30.000???? No question, no comparison!!!
An app on the Market - Touchdown allows tasks syncing with outlook. Not sure about Notes.
But to be honest, as has been said, why spend €500 on a phone and not have done any research into wether it will do what you want it to.
Not only that, but if its a problem, then in most instances you wil be able to return it within 7 or 14 days for a refund (less any charges) so you should have done that.
Whats the moral of this tale :- Always do your research!
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I'm very unhappy with my new Desire. It is of course, also, the problem regarding "the change" from WM to Android, but... I cannot choose "My location" and now I just discovered that YOU CAN'T SYNC NOTES AND TASK with Outlook. This is unbelievable! If the problem with My location and weather shown in the HOME Screen it's not so serious (you can check the weather on line) the problem with the sync it's awful, and there is no program on the "market" to solve it.
I can't believe that I just bought a 500 euro phone and it is so useless. Is there any chance to replace the famous "Android" with a real OS like WM 6.5 (from HD2) for example???
Please I'm desperate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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If you had such explicit requirements, why didn't you do the research before hand?
Regarding issue with syncing tasks, use the calendar to create your tasks in outlook, use an app on your computer called google calendar sync to upload it to a gmail account, then you'll have them on your phone... simple.
Gustibus non disputandum est!
That means (I hope I write it down correct): the tastes are not questionable!!
I did my research before buying this toy, and I can return it in 30 days (10 to go), and the HD2 was the first option but the sizes ... to big for me.
At the office I use Outlook on my laptop to do notes, task, appointments (on my laptop)... and so on, and when I'm on the field maybe I need some of them, so.... I WILL LIKE TO SYNC MY NOTES FROM LAPTOP WITH MY PHONE. What is so hard to understand? That not everybody use the phone for games and billions of apps which are doing the same thing. In 3 hours of searching I found not more than 5 interesting application (and the WM has 3 of them in the original OS). That's all!
Why I use Outlook ? Because I have a job and an server e-mail and like any more than 70% of this world computers I use MIcrosoft Software. I received an advice from one forum: use Gmail notes! You gotta be kidding ! This 500 euro phone should have some real business apps. I don't use phone for music, pictures and games, instead I need a mail client which allow me to select different mails and mark them like read, or unread. I receive hundreds of mail daily and I need to organize them. What it's so hard to understand?
Give me a break with this Android OS. I hoped that will be different than Iphone but it's the same sheet. I prefer to have notes instead Facebook...social communication ! And tasks instead youtube!
When I bought this phone I never thought that the sync software will not sync notes and tasks. The 5 years old Nokia or Sony that I used then had it. MY problem is that the solution is so simple but you prefer to tell me that I have 3 billions of apps, why I need notes when I can play poker or chess?in 5000 languages.
In my opinion Android is a great software but ... for this price you should think that are some people which are trying to use it for the daily job and not for messenger to pick-up minor teenage girls.
One of you wrote: why do you use Outlook, get on-line... Some information will never go on-line... company policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yes Android it's more simple to use than WM, but because it's simple he does simple things, but I NEED MORE! so I guess I need WM, complicated but it has what I need; it's just like cars: some people like muscle cars (pure power and simple technology), but others prefer German or Japanese cars which are maybe a little bit complicated but they offer something different.
thanks anyway!
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Why do people still use Outlook is beyond my belief
Why do people still sync to a computer (that can only be in one place at a time) is again beyond my belief.
I have my Desire for 2 weeks now and I never even installed the sync app, don't even know what it looks like.
But to answer your question: NO you can't replace Android to the fake ... i mean real OS Windows Mobile.
I came from Windows Mobile and I couldn't be happier i got rid of it. Stop thinking offline, and start thinking cloud sync... it'll eventually be the default weather we like it or not.
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what mail client do you use: Gmail, yahoo? are you in the kindergarden? or maybe you use phone for Facebook and Youtube. It's so cool you can see your friends on-line. Take care, maybe someday you will lose contact with the real world, and than you will be in the MATRIX... and poor me I'll be offline!
Sorry I couldn't resist ! but now seriously :WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS PHONE ?
So basically you're here to have a rant because you made a poor choice when buying a phone. Fair enough.
For what it's worth, I work in IT, and I use the Desire to keep a watch on my company email and calendar, sync'ed from Exchange Server. Does the job just fine. I don't use notes in Outlook because what ever you want to do, there is always a better alternative, even a note app on the phone itself would do a better job.
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That means (I hope I write it down correct): the tastes are not questionable!!
I did my research before buying this toy, and I can return it in 30 days (10 to go), and the HD2 was the first option but the sizes ... to big for me.
At the office I use Outlook on my laptop to do notes, task, appointments (on my laptop)... and so on, and when I'm on the field maybe I need some of them, so.... I WILL LIKE TO SYNC MY NOTES FROM LAPTOP WITH MY PHONE. What is so hard to understand? That not everybody use the phone for games and billions of apps which are doing the same thing. In 3 hours of searching I found not more than 5 interesting application (and the WM has 3 of them in the original OS). That's all!
Why I use Outlook ? Because I have a job and an server e-mail and like any more than 70% of this world computers I use MIcrosoft Software. I received an advice from one forum: use Gmail notes! You gotta be kidding ! This 500 euro phone should have some real business apps. I don't use phone for music, pictures and games, instead I need a mail client which allow me to select different mails and mark them like read, or unread. I receive hundreds of mail daily and I need to organize them. What it's so hard to understand?
Give me a break with this Android OS. I hoped that will be different than Iphone but it's the same sheet. I prefer to have notes instead Facebook...social communication ! And tasks instead youtube!
When I bought this phone I never thought that the sync software will not sync notes and tasks. The 5 years old Nokia or Sony that I used then had it. MY problem is that the solution is so simple but you prefer to tell me that I have 3 billions of apps, why I need notes when I can play poker or chess?in 5000 languages.
In my opinion Android is a great software but ... for this price you should think that are some people which are trying to use it for the daily job and not for messenger to pick-up minor teenage girls.
One of you wrote: why do you use Outlook, get on-line... Some information will never go on-line... company policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yes Android it's more simple to use than WM, but because it's simple he does simple things, but I NEED MORE! so I guess I need WM, complicated but it has what I need; it's just like cars: some people like muscle cars (pure power and simple technology), but others prefer German or Japanese cars which are maybe a little bit complicated but they offer something different.
thanks anyway!
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Yeah after reading a bit, i think that you didn't really put much research into this... On your statements i would recommend Blackberry, its for emails, tasks and sync.
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it's just like cars: some people like muscle cars (pure power and simple technology), but others prefer German or Japanese cars which are maybe a little bit complicated but they offer something different.
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Show me the man who looks to buy a broken car, and I'll show you a HD2 that actually works as it's supposed to
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what mail client do you use: Gmail, yahoo? are you in the kindergarden? or maybe you use phone for Facebook and Youtube. It's so cool you can see your friends on-line. Take care, maybe someday you will lose contact with the real world, and than you will be in the MATRIX... and poor me I'll be offline!
Sorry I couldn't resist ! but now seriously :WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS PHONE ?
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dude, the thing is, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT THIS PHONE. Period. When you bought it you know, it's running android. As for syncing with outlook, you could have research it before hand. If you explicitly use it for syncing with outlook, and your work has a lot to do with microsoft software, why did you not buy a windows mobile device? answer me, plz.
What next? ppl are gonna come out complaining they cant install windows mobile on their iphone? give me a break.
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what mail client do you use: Gmail, yahoo? are you in the kindergarden? or maybe you use phone for Facebook and Youtube. It's so cool you can see your friends on-line. Take care, maybe someday you will lose contact with the real world, and than you will be in the MATRIX... and poor me I'll be offline!
Sorry I couldn't resist ! but now seriously :WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS PHONE ?
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I'm actually working for a global telecom company as IT, so your statement above makes me laugh.
Do you guys don't separate your work life from your personal life? Are you doing work all the time.
My phone is exactly that, MY phone, not the company's phone, not the work phone. I'm not paying MY money to have a phone for work. My company gave me a phone and that's the work phone, that's the phone i'm called when someone from WORK wants to reach me, that phone is for work mail, that phone is for the stuff you said you needed. That phone that has the features my work requires from me.
This phone is my personal phone. I don't want to be contacted on this phone, I don't want to do work on this phone, it's MY phone and yeah, I do use Gmail as a personal email, I do use Google Calendar as my personal agenda, I do use Google Contacts and many many other cloud applications Google offers and I couldn't be happier. I want Facebook on MY phone, I want YouTube on MY phone.
Oh and that outlook you so much want is just a fronted to a MTA server, be it POP3, IMAP or Exchange. If you're not working for a secret spy agency most likely those MTA's are public and accessible from the internet. Why not connect to those and insist to connect to Outlook? If your company uses Exchange you can set up this phone to use it also, and you can sync everything outlook has ... through the cloud (that is if you work in a normal company that actually lets users check their mail when not at the office), so you don't need to be connected to anything, just need internet on the phone.
I configured the Exchange ActiveSync from my work account the phone and works like a charm, if i put an appointment on my phone it shows up on Outlook after a few minutes "just like that", if i put an appointment on Outlook it shows up on my phone "just like that". To tell you the truth since I got this phone, i never once hooked it to a computer, only transfered via Wi-Fi and Bluetooth sometimes.
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So basically you're here to have a rant because you made a poor choice when buying a phone. Fair enough.
For what it's worth, I work in IT, and I use the Desire to keep a watch on my company email and calendar, sync'ed from Exchange Server. Does the job just fine. I don't use notes in Outlook because what ever you want to do, there is always a better alternative, even a note app on the phone itself would do a better job.
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No man, I don't have a rant here, just trying to explain myself. It's not fair what happens to me here, because I asked a question and everybody jumped on me instead helping me. Exchange Server it's a great solution but unfortunately my company will not use a server for this. And for me there is no better alternative than Outlook, WE ARE DIFFERENT, accept it. I installed 10 notes apps, but none have sync with outlook. I know that I can use notes directly on phone but it's much easier on the laptop.
I repeat: I can, and probably I will return the phone. I love how it looks, dimensions, the hardware... and I was thinking that maybe because it's a software problem it can be solved. Why are so ... LOCKED ?
Is there any software that lets me manage my contacts on my pc? Like the pc studio for Nokia phones? As far as i can see, the htc sync only lets me sync, don't even know what it sync's, lol...
There's motorola software (search xda for it) that can do it, I didn't find it particulary good but it works.
Google Contacts
This is where I do all my managing. Fulfill my needs and syncs to the phone immediately.
google.com/contacts
sorry, cannot post real links, something about new members.
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This is where I do all my managing. Fulfill my needs and syncs to the phone immediately.
google.com/contacts
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I access the contacts online too, don't see much need for anything else, but you could probably add/edit contacts to Outlook and use HTC Sync to grab the changes from there? I haven't tried it, so I could be wrong
Use the contacts within Google Mail?
It's nice that you share your discovery, but for a long, long time there is no problem with the management of contacts.
For example, MyPhoneExplorer 1.8 released 2010-10-01:
"Many people waited for this update and now its finished. MyPhoneExplorer is now able to manage Android-Phones - and not only from SonyEricsson. This Means there are many new supported models fe SonyEricsson X10, HTC Desire. Motorola Milestone, and much more."
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After using WM for 5 years, i realize that i do use Notes very much for all sorts of reasons.
Now that i'm using the Desire, what do you guys use to replace Notes from WM? I've searched the Market and found several types. Any recommendations?
Just to ask....any way to sync this "Notes" from Desire to Office Outlook 2007?
I used Color Note for a while. It was good, it also has a widget to put on your home screen. But recently a HTC widget Notes was released which is more than enough for me. Although it has 2 little annoying thins:
1. the widget takes up one whole home screen
2. you can't edit an already written note
But I use it nonetheless It lets you draw (just like WM Notes did) although the space is quite small. Color note does not have this function.
As for the second question - I don't know about syncing your notes, I don't use Outlook.
evernote. utterly great.
Would definitely agree with Evernote, as this is just a cloud service, and can use on nearly all platforms so future proof! Sync my laptop, desktop, desire, and iPhone It's great!
Thanks for the info guys I'll give those a try and see which one best suits me
i gave up with teh whole notes syncing thing so instead of changed all my outlook notes into tasks and sync with google tasks. syncs perfectly with android calendar (google)
i use 3banana.. give it a try, its not bad
nitronotes will allow you to sync your existing outlook notes ... it's clunky but it works ...
http://groups.google.com/group/nitrodesk/web/nitronote-notes-syncing
Try Springpad: http://www.40tech.com/2010/04/20/springpad-vs-evernote-it-might-be-better/
Even though Evernote provides slightly different functionality to it (and is excellent).
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I don't have a WP7 phone and am wondering about the calendar. Is it true that if you have google or windows live calendar you can only sync one calendar? I have multiple calendars set up (personal, business, wife etc.) and want to know if a WP7 phone could be set up like this.
Thanks
At the moment, WP7 will only sync your default calendar from each account. So you can't directly access subscribed calendars etc... I would imagine this will be fixed in an update as it simply doesn't make sense to allow subscribed calendars in outlook, windows live etc... and NOT on the phone!
Yes it doesn't allow other shared calendars to be viewed but it seems even on the iPhone it's not possible (not sure about that though). So it may be that only Android has this function for Google Calendar.
What I do is to have a live tile that leads me straight to the mobile version of Google Calendar that would allow me to view everything from the browser.
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At the moment, WP7 will only sync your default calendar from each account. So you can't directly access subscribed calendars etc... I would imagine this will be fixed in an update as it simply doesn't make sense to allow subscribed calendars in outlook, windows live etc... and NOT on the phone!
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That’s pretty rubbish.
So if I’ve two Windows live Calendars – say Appointments & sports – I can only add one..
The Windows Phone 7 developers must really have no lives to omit this function. They probably don’t even use Windows Live.
I suspect Microsoft employees would have their own in-house calendar software. If I were the big boss I’d insist all employs use Windows Live. I’m sure that’d motivate them to fine-tune their products.
FYI – I use nuevasync on my Windows ‘Mobile’ to access my iCal through Goggle Calendar (though gCal has been particularly unreliable lately).
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That’s pretty rubbish.
So if I’ve two Windows live Calendars – say Appointments & sports – I can only add one..
The Windows Phone 7 developers must really have no lives to omit this function. They probably don’t even use Windows Live.
I suspect Microsoft employees would have their own in-house calendar software. If I were the big boss I’d insist all employs use Windows Live. I’m sure that’d motivate them to fine-tune their products.
FYI – I use nuevasync on my Windows ‘Mobile’ to access my iCal through Goggle Calendar (though gCal has been particularly unreliable lately).
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there was a rumor going around that it would be fixed up in the first update... but who knows. we'll just have to wait and see.
I Why would you need separate calendars when you can assign different colors to the accounts? I have both my work and personal calendar on my Surround. Work shows up in red and personal is blue.
I do not have a Google calendar but I would think you would be able to sync it too.
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I Why would you need separate calendars when you can assign different colors to the accounts? I have both my work and personal calendar on my Surround. Work shows up in red and personal is blue.
I do not have a Google calendar but I would think you would be able to sync it too.
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ummm your question is kind of ironic
you question the point of having seperate calendars (within 1 account) by suggesting a method that's more tedious (having separate calendars in separate accounts.)
windows live/hotmail allows multiple calendars, you can work on the same calendar and just list them under the diff calendars....isn't that more convenient than maintaining 2 different calendars across 2 accounts?
DOH! I misread the "or". I thought he meant he had 2 serperates and was worried he couldnt sync both to his device.
Anyone know if NuevaSync is working on Windows Phone 7 syncing?
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Anyone know if NuevaSync is working on Windows Phone 7 syncing?
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Yep. Sure is.
1. However, it’s no longer free. The basic subscription is 15 bucks a year – which isn’t much.
2. In the ‘email & account’ settings – Nuevasync (listed as gmail) prefers to be set to download new content ‘as item arrives’, or manually.
I initially had it set to download every hour, but it kept saying ‘unable to complete sync’ or something like that.
While Nuevaync works fine, I’m thinking of transferring to Windows Live calendar as my main calendar. Google Calendar has been unreliable – especially with iCal feeds. It’s displaying my iCal feeds in GMT time zone (a known issue) & it screwed up all my recurring appointments for some unknown reason.
Windows Live Calendar lets you mark events as private, which hides events if the calendar is shared – a must have feature for me.
Of course it would be nice if WP7 supported iCal feeds directly. But as I’m learning with WP7 – you make do. Compared to MinMo 6.1, I’m prepared to cut it a lot of slack because it’s just so damn nice to use.
P.S. – if anyone knows a way of incorporating an iCal feed into a default Windows Live calendar that would be great. And I’m not talking about downloading the feed & then importing it into the calendar. I’m talking about a cloud sync i.e. iCal event to WL calendar in real time. But I suspect this isn’t possible.
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P.S. – if anyone knows a way of incorporating an iCal feed into a default Windows Live calendar that would be great. And I’m not talking about downloading the feed & then importing it into the calendar. I’m talking about a cloud sync i.e. iCal event to WL calendar in real time. But I suspect this isn’t possible.
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Funny you say that, because that's exactly what I'm looking for: a cloud based iCal (MobileMe) <--> Windows Live solution. Though I'm sure no such animal exists. I thought Google calendar could work as an intermediary, but that's looking doubtful as well. Apparently when Apple went full CalDAV last Fall, they stopped allowing change access outside their own internal product.
It's not looking good currently for a cloud based calendar sync solution if my wife and I want to have differing phone platforms when MobileMe is involved. Ah Apple...
Syncing stuff over multiple platforms a recipe for a nightmare. Especially anything that involves plugging in a USB. I tried with Outlook, but ended up with appointments doubling etc.
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Does anyone know if there is an app or software for the task I need to do. I have a Samsung s3 mini I use the calender app on it to keep a track of my rota, I would like to synch this calendar with the outlook calendar on my computer and the synch this with calendar on my nexus 7 is this possible. I'm currently trialling my phone explorer but it is duplicating all my entries and I can't solve the issue, so wondered if there is any other way. Don't really want to use the Google calendar.
might be way to go
Has anyone had any dealings with jorte calender, this looks an easier way for what I want, can load it on tablet and phone then synch them using there cloud system just won't have a copy in outlook, but its not end of world.
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Has anyone had any dealings with jorte calender, this looks an easier way for what I want, can load it on tablet and phone then synch them using there cloud system just won't have a copy in outlook, but its not end of world.
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There is a way to sync your outlook calendar, but this would be way easier. Not an app but a program for your computer
https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gappssync.
Just sync your current calendar with your google one(Should probably be like that already) then add whatever new events and stuff from google calendar or outlook rather than any other app you may use.