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I'm very unhappy with my new Desire. It is of course, also, the problem regarding "the change" from WM to Android, but... I cannot choose "My location" and now I just discovered that YOU CAN'T SYNC NOTES AND TASK with Outlook. This is unbelievable! If the problem with My location and weather shown in the HOME Screen it's not so serious (you can check the weather on line) the problem with the sync it's awful, and there is no program on the "market" to solve it.
I can't believe that I just bought a 500 euro phone and it is so useless. Is there any chance to replace the famous "Android" with a real OS like WM 6.5 (from HD2) for example???
Please I'm desperate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
buy a HD2 instead. (!!!11!1!!!)
Why did you buy an Android phone if you want to install WM 6.5 on it?
Why do people still use Outlook is beyond my belief
Why do people still sync to a computer (that can only be in one place at a time) is again beyond my belief.
I have my Desire for 2 weeks now and I never even installed the sync app, don't even know what it looks like.
But to answer your question: NO you can't replace Android to the fake ... i mean real OS Windows Mobile.
I came from Windows Mobile and I couldn't be happier i got rid of it. Stop thinking offline, and start thinking cloud sync... it'll eventually be the default weather we like it or not.
You can argue (From a technical pov) that WM6.5 is a real OS and that Android isn't. In fact even Symbian would be more of a "Real" OS than Android. The difference is that those two OSes can run native code and Android just runs everything via Java. This doesn't mean much to most users but to developers it means a lot.
someone please shut this thread before the OP gets flamed to death......
If native code means a deficiency of decent apps, where even the few good ones are jerky, clunky and Windows CE...ey then I'm all for Java - go Java.
I left the HD2 because Windows Mobile is unreliable (believe it or not) because it was never meant to handle such complex skins as Sense UI and therefore leaked memory like a teabag full of pulped brain; and also because there was a deficiency of decent apps (despite its supposed ability to handle 'native code'). If it's so great then why are most of the .cabs people install fixes and patches rather than ACTUAL apps? And why are there no decent alternative Facebook apps etc? Is Windows Mobile 'TOO GOOD' for this sort of software development? For an OS a fifth of the age of Windows Mobile, Android has ten times as many IM apps (for example). Why is this so?
Android allows for one to code/install apps for even CORE applications like SMS and Email: show me a decent email replacement for Windows Mobile? One that ACTUALLY REPLACES the native one....you can't? Android can.
And as capricious as it might seem the rubbish email client in Windows Mobile was one of the reasons I started to loath the OS. What is the point of the 'click to scroll right' and 'pictures blocked for security reasons' BS??? Is it REALLY necessary? And why is it so....ugly?
Anyway I thought I'd get my word in before this thread gets closed. If you can't move with the times then go and buy a TyTn 2 or something. Outlook syncing will soon be as dead as Windows Mobile so for Google to include it would be a backwards step, being as more necessary features are still to be implemented.
It's all about the cloud.
P.S. research before jumping in and buying a phone as you seem to have very specific requirements. Outlook task and notes syncing is a VERY SPECIFIC requirement which in the overall scheme of a burgeoning OS would be deemed unnecessary by Google. I wouldn't buy a Renault Megane if I needed a tractor.
I think it's just a case of people not liking change at all. So the different and sometimes better things that Android provides seem not so good.
Why do people still use Outlook is beyond my belief
Why do people still sync to a computer (that can only be in one place at a time) is again beyond my belief.
I have my Desire for 2 weeks now and I never even installed the sync app, don't even know what it looks like.
But to answer your question: NO you can't replace Android to the fake ... i mean real OS Windows Mobile.
I came from Windows Mobile and I couldn't be happier i got rid of it. Stop thinking offline, and start thinking cloud sync... it'll eventually be the default weather we like it or not.
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For work purposes most likely? Information that has to be stored securely in outlook on a system which they DO NOT want in the cloud? But would like to sync via hard wire or secure connection to the device?
Outlook syncing will be alive as long as Microsoft push it and businesses continue to use it and would rather not have information in the cloud, even Windows Phone 7 offers outlook syncing, it isn't going anywhere.
I havn't tried but doesn't htc sync allow to sync with Outlook?? I though that was what it said on the box....
Anyhow, i've just come from an HTC Touch HD where i have tried all the versions of windows and senses and other interfaces and i have to say i am loving my new desire!!!!
I am no developer but Android is so much better adapted to a smartphone, it's fast, fluid and allows all sorts of customization and when i had my HD, as far as i can remember, there were like 20 apps on the marketplace, i thin android market is at 30.000???? No question, no comparison!!!
An app on the Market - Touchdown allows tasks syncing with outlook. Not sure about Notes.
But to be honest, as has been said, why spend €500 on a phone and not have done any research into wether it will do what you want it to.
Not only that, but if its a problem, then in most instances you wil be able to return it within 7 or 14 days for a refund (less any charges) so you should have done that.
Whats the moral of this tale :- Always do your research!
solaris78 said:
I'm very unhappy with my new Desire. It is of course, also, the problem regarding "the change" from WM to Android, but... I cannot choose "My location" and now I just discovered that YOU CAN'T SYNC NOTES AND TASK with Outlook. This is unbelievable! If the problem with My location and weather shown in the HOME Screen it's not so serious (you can check the weather on line) the problem with the sync it's awful, and there is no program on the "market" to solve it.
I can't believe that I just bought a 500 euro phone and it is so useless. Is there any chance to replace the famous "Android" with a real OS like WM 6.5 (from HD2) for example???
Please I'm desperate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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If you had such explicit requirements, why didn't you do the research before hand?
Regarding issue with syncing tasks, use the calendar to create your tasks in outlook, use an app on your computer called google calendar sync to upload it to a gmail account, then you'll have them on your phone... simple.
Gustibus non disputandum est!
That means (I hope I write it down correct): the tastes are not questionable!!
I did my research before buying this toy, and I can return it in 30 days (10 to go), and the HD2 was the first option but the sizes ... to big for me.
At the office I use Outlook on my laptop to do notes, task, appointments (on my laptop)... and so on, and when I'm on the field maybe I need some of them, so.... I WILL LIKE TO SYNC MY NOTES FROM LAPTOP WITH MY PHONE. What is so hard to understand? That not everybody use the phone for games and billions of apps which are doing the same thing. In 3 hours of searching I found not more than 5 interesting application (and the WM has 3 of them in the original OS). That's all!
Why I use Outlook ? Because I have a job and an server e-mail and like any more than 70% of this world computers I use MIcrosoft Software. I received an advice from one forum: use Gmail notes! You gotta be kidding ! This 500 euro phone should have some real business apps. I don't use phone for music, pictures and games, instead I need a mail client which allow me to select different mails and mark them like read, or unread. I receive hundreds of mail daily and I need to organize them. What it's so hard to understand?
Give me a break with this Android OS. I hoped that will be different than Iphone but it's the same sheet. I prefer to have notes instead Facebook...social communication ! And tasks instead youtube!
When I bought this phone I never thought that the sync software will not sync notes and tasks. The 5 years old Nokia or Sony that I used then had it. MY problem is that the solution is so simple but you prefer to tell me that I have 3 billions of apps, why I need notes when I can play poker or chess?in 5000 languages.
In my opinion Android is a great software but ... for this price you should think that are some people which are trying to use it for the daily job and not for messenger to pick-up minor teenage girls.
One of you wrote: why do you use Outlook, get on-line... Some information will never go on-line... company policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yes Android it's more simple to use than WM, but because it's simple he does simple things, but I NEED MORE! so I guess I need WM, complicated but it has what I need; it's just like cars: some people like muscle cars (pure power and simple technology), but others prefer German or Japanese cars which are maybe a little bit complicated but they offer something different.
thanks anyway!
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Why do people still use Outlook is beyond my belief
Why do people still sync to a computer (that can only be in one place at a time) is again beyond my belief.
I have my Desire for 2 weeks now and I never even installed the sync app, don't even know what it looks like.
But to answer your question: NO you can't replace Android to the fake ... i mean real OS Windows Mobile.
I came from Windows Mobile and I couldn't be happier i got rid of it. Stop thinking offline, and start thinking cloud sync... it'll eventually be the default weather we like it or not.
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what mail client do you use: Gmail, yahoo? are you in the kindergarden? or maybe you use phone for Facebook and Youtube. It's so cool you can see your friends on-line. Take care, maybe someday you will lose contact with the real world, and than you will be in the MATRIX... and poor me I'll be offline!
Sorry I couldn't resist ! but now seriously :WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS PHONE ?
So basically you're here to have a rant because you made a poor choice when buying a phone. Fair enough.
For what it's worth, I work in IT, and I use the Desire to keep a watch on my company email and calendar, sync'ed from Exchange Server. Does the job just fine. I don't use notes in Outlook because what ever you want to do, there is always a better alternative, even a note app on the phone itself would do a better job.
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That means (I hope I write it down correct): the tastes are not questionable!!
I did my research before buying this toy, and I can return it in 30 days (10 to go), and the HD2 was the first option but the sizes ... to big for me.
At the office I use Outlook on my laptop to do notes, task, appointments (on my laptop)... and so on, and when I'm on the field maybe I need some of them, so.... I WILL LIKE TO SYNC MY NOTES FROM LAPTOP WITH MY PHONE. What is so hard to understand? That not everybody use the phone for games and billions of apps which are doing the same thing. In 3 hours of searching I found not more than 5 interesting application (and the WM has 3 of them in the original OS). That's all!
Why I use Outlook ? Because I have a job and an server e-mail and like any more than 70% of this world computers I use MIcrosoft Software. I received an advice from one forum: use Gmail notes! You gotta be kidding ! This 500 euro phone should have some real business apps. I don't use phone for music, pictures and games, instead I need a mail client which allow me to select different mails and mark them like read, or unread. I receive hundreds of mail daily and I need to organize them. What it's so hard to understand?
Give me a break with this Android OS. I hoped that will be different than Iphone but it's the same sheet. I prefer to have notes instead Facebook...social communication ! And tasks instead youtube!
When I bought this phone I never thought that the sync software will not sync notes and tasks. The 5 years old Nokia or Sony that I used then had it. MY problem is that the solution is so simple but you prefer to tell me that I have 3 billions of apps, why I need notes when I can play poker or chess?in 5000 languages.
In my opinion Android is a great software but ... for this price you should think that are some people which are trying to use it for the daily job and not for messenger to pick-up minor teenage girls.
One of you wrote: why do you use Outlook, get on-line... Some information will never go on-line... company policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yes Android it's more simple to use than WM, but because it's simple he does simple things, but I NEED MORE! so I guess I need WM, complicated but it has what I need; it's just like cars: some people like muscle cars (pure power and simple technology), but others prefer German or Japanese cars which are maybe a little bit complicated but they offer something different.
thanks anyway!
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Yeah after reading a bit, i think that you didn't really put much research into this... On your statements i would recommend Blackberry, its for emails, tasks and sync.
solaris78 said:
it's just like cars: some people like muscle cars (pure power and simple technology), but others prefer German or Japanese cars which are maybe a little bit complicated but they offer something different.
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Show me the man who looks to buy a broken car, and I'll show you a HD2 that actually works as it's supposed to
solaris78 said:
what mail client do you use: Gmail, yahoo? are you in the kindergarden? or maybe you use phone for Facebook and Youtube. It's so cool you can see your friends on-line. Take care, maybe someday you will lose contact with the real world, and than you will be in the MATRIX... and poor me I'll be offline!
Sorry I couldn't resist ! but now seriously :WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS PHONE ?
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dude, the thing is, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT THIS PHONE. Period. When you bought it you know, it's running android. As for syncing with outlook, you could have research it before hand. If you explicitly use it for syncing with outlook, and your work has a lot to do with microsoft software, why did you not buy a windows mobile device? answer me, plz.
What next? ppl are gonna come out complaining they cant install windows mobile on their iphone? give me a break.
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what mail client do you use: Gmail, yahoo? are you in the kindergarden? or maybe you use phone for Facebook and Youtube. It's so cool you can see your friends on-line. Take care, maybe someday you will lose contact with the real world, and than you will be in the MATRIX... and poor me I'll be offline!
Sorry I couldn't resist ! but now seriously :WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS PHONE ?
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I'm actually working for a global telecom company as IT, so your statement above makes me laugh.
Do you guys don't separate your work life from your personal life? Are you doing work all the time.
My phone is exactly that, MY phone, not the company's phone, not the work phone. I'm not paying MY money to have a phone for work. My company gave me a phone and that's the work phone, that's the phone i'm called when someone from WORK wants to reach me, that phone is for work mail, that phone is for the stuff you said you needed. That phone that has the features my work requires from me.
This phone is my personal phone. I don't want to be contacted on this phone, I don't want to do work on this phone, it's MY phone and yeah, I do use Gmail as a personal email, I do use Google Calendar as my personal agenda, I do use Google Contacts and many many other cloud applications Google offers and I couldn't be happier. I want Facebook on MY phone, I want YouTube on MY phone.
Oh and that outlook you so much want is just a fronted to a MTA server, be it POP3, IMAP or Exchange. If you're not working for a secret spy agency most likely those MTA's are public and accessible from the internet. Why not connect to those and insist to connect to Outlook? If your company uses Exchange you can set up this phone to use it also, and you can sync everything outlook has ... through the cloud (that is if you work in a normal company that actually lets users check their mail when not at the office), so you don't need to be connected to anything, just need internet on the phone.
I configured the Exchange ActiveSync from my work account the phone and works like a charm, if i put an appointment on my phone it shows up on Outlook after a few minutes "just like that", if i put an appointment on Outlook it shows up on my phone "just like that". To tell you the truth since I got this phone, i never once hooked it to a computer, only transfered via Wi-Fi and Bluetooth sometimes.
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So basically you're here to have a rant because you made a poor choice when buying a phone. Fair enough.
For what it's worth, I work in IT, and I use the Desire to keep a watch on my company email and calendar, sync'ed from Exchange Server. Does the job just fine. I don't use notes in Outlook because what ever you want to do, there is always a better alternative, even a note app on the phone itself would do a better job.
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No man, I don't have a rant here, just trying to explain myself. It's not fair what happens to me here, because I asked a question and everybody jumped on me instead helping me. Exchange Server it's a great solution but unfortunately my company will not use a server for this. And for me there is no better alternative than Outlook, WE ARE DIFFERENT, accept it. I installed 10 notes apps, but none have sync with outlook. I know that I can use notes directly on phone but it's much easier on the laptop.
I repeat: I can, and probably I will return the phone. I love how it looks, dimensions, the hardware... and I was thinking that maybe because it's a software problem it can be solved. Why are so ... LOCKED ?
As far as I can work out, WP7 will not support Outlook Notes and Tasks (To-Dos) or the synchronization of Notes & Tasks.
As I understand it, synch of email, calendar & contacts will happen via your Windows Live account (Windows Live will be an Exchange server soon), which can then synch to Outlook using the Windows Live Connector, but Notes and Tasks are absent from this setup.
There will be no native Notes or Tasks apps on WP7. There will be One Note, but that's a different animal and you have to purchase the PC version to be able to see your OneNotes on your PC.
Unfortunately, for me at least, Tasks is the app I use most on my phone. Since WM5.0, Microsoft crippled Tasks by removing the ability to filter out Tasks with a future Start Date, so I moved to using Pocket Informant which provides this essential feature.
Pocket Informant will not be developed for WM7 if news I've read on the Net is correct. This may be partly due to WM7 having no Tasks database, thus forcing any developer to create their own database engine for Tasks, and in any case there would be no synch with Outlook.
If all this is true, it will prevent me from moving over to WM7. My personal and business life revolve around my task list and I'd be lost without it.
Does anyone have any more information on this, especially any that shows me to be wrong?
Don't know about tasks and notes, but you can connect to any Exchange account you want.
http://www.ahead-app.com/
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http://www.ahead-app.com/
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impressive app!
clear, simple! exactly what i need
i hope other apps will be as good as this one (maybe i should start developing wp7 apps too..)
warenbe said:
impressive app!
clear, simple! exactly what i need
i hope other apps will be as good as this one (maybe i should start developing wp7 apps too..)
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yes you should
yup but i've no good idea right now
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yup but i've no good idea right now
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if i think of something ill let you know
That Ahead app is more like a Project manager than a simple task manager. It only seems to support priorities called "Urgent", "Later", which doesn't tie in with Outlook's three priority levels. Also it only supports a due date, but no start date. Start date is really important, as a recurring annual task to get my car MOTed should have a start date of a couple of weeks before its due, so it doesn't appear in my task list all year round. It also needs to support lots of different types of recurrance - yearly, monthly, every weekday, every 2nd Friday of the month etc etc.
Also, Ahead App doesn't do Notes or synch them.
Whilst I appreciate the link, I'm afraid it's not what I'm looking for. All I need is an app that replicates all the functionality of Outlook's Tasks and Notes and synchs them.
I can't believe this functionality, which is present by default in every version of Windows Mobile, will be absent from WP7.
I'm going to keep my fingers crossed these two essentials appear in the final release of WP7, otherwise I'll have to stick with WM6.5 and Pocket Informant until they finally do appear, whenever that may be.
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Whilst I appreciate the link, I'm afraid it's not what I'm looking for.
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Yes, I know. These tasks also won't be synced with Exchange and can't trigger alerts on the phone, so that's not what I need either.
This is very unfortunate, but neither the iPhone nor Android have tasks, so it looks like a trend these days.
tell me if i'm wrong, but with wp7 we will not be able to create an app wich can copy tasks from outlook?
if yes, we have to create a service wich send tasks on internet and then retrieve them on the phone...
Yes, that's right, you will need to install a connector on your desktop to sync tasks with Outlook or have an intermediary server to sync with Exchange for now.
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This is very unfortunate, but neither the iPhone nor Android have tasks, so it looks like a trend these days.
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Google have started to integrate Tasks into Google Calendar, but thus far it is extremely basic and again doesn't incorporate Start Dates. But I think the direction Google is moving in is to incorporate Tasks into Android and use Exchange Synch.
Notes is another issue though.
IPhone is.......well, let's just skip over that one.
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Google have started to integrate Tasks into Google Calendar
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Actually, Microsoft has done that already on Live Calendar, so maybe that's the direction they'll go with WP7, too. When I asked the Office guy directly about Tasks he said "can't comment at this time".
The Answer to Outlook Tasks and Notes
The Answer to Outlook Tasks and Notes
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1)wait for WP7 Windows Phone 7 to get up to speed
2) WM6.5 Windows Mobile 6.5
run it on as fast a processor as possible (like maybe the HD2)
(no keyboard but you can get used to it)
with as big a display as possible, again the HD2 (same pixels as the tilt2 but more room)
the latest manila / sense, 2.5 ish is now nice and the vendors are supporting the download
co0kies home today v2 is looking very nice, tasks on the home screen.
we who use Outlook for calendar, contacts, notes, tasks
have a single app sync, and we want it not to go away.
maybe we can live with getting exchange accounts, but we're really hoping for a wm7 windows phone 7 activesync.
until this gets in shape . . .
we wait.
looking @ manila/sense with co0kies home today on a fast cpu with a big display,
we're not waiting in that much pain . . .
After almost 17 years on AT&T I moved to T-Mobile
I just got so tired of AT&T lagging on the vendor relationships with HTC and Microsoft.
I upgraded the TILT2 to the latest rom so that I could Finally get tasks on the home page
(I am a long time a complete Outlook user, Requiring Notes, Task, Calendar, Contacts, with a single simple complete sync to the phone).
Co0kies Home Today 2 is marvelous!
The rom started crashing every few hours
CHT put manilla/sense over the memory edge.
it too 45 seconds for manilla to return from sending an sms.
AT&T has no solution.
The HD2 has no keyboard (something i was very worried about)
I dove in.
WHAT A CHAMP this HD2 is.
clock Twice the speed of the Tilt2
tons more memory
a screen of a size fitting the number of pixels available
and after a few days, guess what . . . i am over my keyboard phobia ! ! !
phone number xfer in just a few of hours.
knock on wood, nice transition so far!
only irritating thing is tmomail.net
seems too eager to convert to MMSs, just because they're over 160 bytes.
(small point, that)
I don't have a WP7 phone and am wondering about the calendar. Is it true that if you have google or windows live calendar you can only sync one calendar? I have multiple calendars set up (personal, business, wife etc.) and want to know if a WP7 phone could be set up like this.
Thanks
At the moment, WP7 will only sync your default calendar from each account. So you can't directly access subscribed calendars etc... I would imagine this will be fixed in an update as it simply doesn't make sense to allow subscribed calendars in outlook, windows live etc... and NOT on the phone!
Yes it doesn't allow other shared calendars to be viewed but it seems even on the iPhone it's not possible (not sure about that though). So it may be that only Android has this function for Google Calendar.
What I do is to have a live tile that leads me straight to the mobile version of Google Calendar that would allow me to view everything from the browser.
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At the moment, WP7 will only sync your default calendar from each account. So you can't directly access subscribed calendars etc... I would imagine this will be fixed in an update as it simply doesn't make sense to allow subscribed calendars in outlook, windows live etc... and NOT on the phone!
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That’s pretty rubbish.
So if I’ve two Windows live Calendars – say Appointments & sports – I can only add one..
The Windows Phone 7 developers must really have no lives to omit this function. They probably don’t even use Windows Live.
I suspect Microsoft employees would have their own in-house calendar software. If I were the big boss I’d insist all employs use Windows Live. I’m sure that’d motivate them to fine-tune their products.
FYI – I use nuevasync on my Windows ‘Mobile’ to access my iCal through Goggle Calendar (though gCal has been particularly unreliable lately).
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That’s pretty rubbish.
So if I’ve two Windows live Calendars – say Appointments & sports – I can only add one..
The Windows Phone 7 developers must really have no lives to omit this function. They probably don’t even use Windows Live.
I suspect Microsoft employees would have their own in-house calendar software. If I were the big boss I’d insist all employs use Windows Live. I’m sure that’d motivate them to fine-tune their products.
FYI – I use nuevasync on my Windows ‘Mobile’ to access my iCal through Goggle Calendar (though gCal has been particularly unreliable lately).
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there was a rumor going around that it would be fixed up in the first update... but who knows. we'll just have to wait and see.
I Why would you need separate calendars when you can assign different colors to the accounts? I have both my work and personal calendar on my Surround. Work shows up in red and personal is blue.
I do not have a Google calendar but I would think you would be able to sync it too.
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I Why would you need separate calendars when you can assign different colors to the accounts? I have both my work and personal calendar on my Surround. Work shows up in red and personal is blue.
I do not have a Google calendar but I would think you would be able to sync it too.
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ummm your question is kind of ironic
you question the point of having seperate calendars (within 1 account) by suggesting a method that's more tedious (having separate calendars in separate accounts.)
windows live/hotmail allows multiple calendars, you can work on the same calendar and just list them under the diff calendars....isn't that more convenient than maintaining 2 different calendars across 2 accounts?
DOH! I misread the "or". I thought he meant he had 2 serperates and was worried he couldnt sync both to his device.
Anyone know if NuevaSync is working on Windows Phone 7 syncing?
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Anyone know if NuevaSync is working on Windows Phone 7 syncing?
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Yep. Sure is.
1. However, it’s no longer free. The basic subscription is 15 bucks a year – which isn’t much.
2. In the ‘email & account’ settings – Nuevasync (listed as gmail) prefers to be set to download new content ‘as item arrives’, or manually.
I initially had it set to download every hour, but it kept saying ‘unable to complete sync’ or something like that.
While Nuevaync works fine, I’m thinking of transferring to Windows Live calendar as my main calendar. Google Calendar has been unreliable – especially with iCal feeds. It’s displaying my iCal feeds in GMT time zone (a known issue) & it screwed up all my recurring appointments for some unknown reason.
Windows Live Calendar lets you mark events as private, which hides events if the calendar is shared – a must have feature for me.
Of course it would be nice if WP7 supported iCal feeds directly. But as I’m learning with WP7 – you make do. Compared to MinMo 6.1, I’m prepared to cut it a lot of slack because it’s just so damn nice to use.
P.S. – if anyone knows a way of incorporating an iCal feed into a default Windows Live calendar that would be great. And I’m not talking about downloading the feed & then importing it into the calendar. I’m talking about a cloud sync i.e. iCal event to WL calendar in real time. But I suspect this isn’t possible.
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P.S. – if anyone knows a way of incorporating an iCal feed into a default Windows Live calendar that would be great. And I’m not talking about downloading the feed & then importing it into the calendar. I’m talking about a cloud sync i.e. iCal event to WL calendar in real time. But I suspect this isn’t possible.
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Funny you say that, because that's exactly what I'm looking for: a cloud based iCal (MobileMe) <--> Windows Live solution. Though I'm sure no such animal exists. I thought Google calendar could work as an intermediary, but that's looking doubtful as well. Apparently when Apple went full CalDAV last Fall, they stopped allowing change access outside their own internal product.
It's not looking good currently for a cloud based calendar sync solution if my wife and I want to have differing phone platforms when MobileMe is involved. Ah Apple...
Syncing stuff over multiple platforms a recipe for a nightmare. Especially anything that involves plugging in a USB. I tried with Outlook, but ended up with appointments doubling etc.
Extremely excited to get the SG2 Tomorrow end of day, one question thouw moving from Windows mobile to Android:
what productivity Tool you suggest for android? one that can read Calendars and Tasks in one window....
P.S. does Kies sync Outlook tasks? any idea/ alternative??
thanks in advance
Pocket Informant?
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Been using it over windows mobile, but heard its not that good on Android so i am looking for some alternatives if any...
Nothing beats the windows mobile (the old one) in productivity ... specially if you were using pocket breeze..
what I'm doing right now to reduce the gap ... is using pocket informant (calender sync: gamil) (tasks sync: Toodledo) .. and to do so I have companionlink installed on my pc.
I'm considering replacing the Toodledo sync with .. Remember The Milk ...
Widgets .. there are many but nothing come to the level of Pocket Breeze ... however, the Android version of PB is coming soon
ohhh, yes i agree with you. pocket breeze was something on my old HD & HD2 ...and it is great to know there is a version coming soon for android... thanks.
Im using pure calendar widget with gtasks. The widget is a paid app, but really customizable. Gtasks is really nice to create tasks and you can make it work perfectly with Pure calendar widget. I now have a transparent widget with white tasks and my google calendar items in white, except some urgent items that are red. It auto syncs with google tasks and google calendar and it looks quite amazing! I can post some screenshots later if you want.
pure calender looks cool .. but the Gtasks will not help if you want to sync your tasks with outlook ..
Stitch and Tough
thank you very much for the comments. i will surely try that, but yes, i still need something that sync with outlook.
In the latest release of firmware (Jelly Bean 4.1.2) you will find Google Calendar as a default application which will do what you are looking for: strict integration between calendar and scheduled events and, moreover, everything can be managed via your Google account from any device you are using (desktop, laptop, smartphone, etc) and therefore from any location.
Hi Folks,
One of my primary reasons for buying the Note2 (arrived yesterday, so not had much time to experiment) was the Stylus^D^D^D^D^D^D S-Pen. I'm hoping that the phone can replace my Moleskine notebook, in which I make short notes, jot down my action items, etc in meetings where I'm not chair / taking full minutes (for those, I expect I'll need to stick to an A4 pad).
Given what the device is, and who the contributors here are, I thought I'd post, to see if anyone else had the same requirements, and come up with a good working solution? If not, I'll post updates as I go along, and whether or not I find a solution which works well for me.
Ideally, then, my workflow would look something like:
Attend a meeting
Write relevant notes on the Note2 using the S-Pen
Have those notes sync <somewhere> (ideally automatically, but I can live with pressing a button or two)
Have my notes subsequently available on a desktop computer (Windows PC in the office, Mac when working from home)
Ideally have the notes auto-handwriting-recognised at a reasonable level of quality into machine manipulatable text
Other initial thoughts/comments:
I'm happy to use S-Note for this if it works well, but just as happy to use a 3rd party app, and to pay for said app if the value proposition is there.
I've had an evernote account for years, always though the concept was great, but never really made use of it. This will probably be my first port-of-call.
I'm a heavy Dropbox user, so Dropbox integration would work for me (especially since gaining the additional 48gig through purchase of the Note2!).
It would be great if the single app divided out action items and notes "auto-magically" somehow, and populated a cloud-syncing task management tool with the action items. But on this assumption this is asking too much, I think I'd be adverse to switching between two tools, one for notes, one for actions (though perhaps Multi-View would be an interesting solution here?).
Cheers!
Gav.
I'm very interested to see what your thoughts are after using it a while. I'm an engineering student, and was looking to buy a Note2 and take advantage of the SPen functionality. I like the idea of 'Formula Match' although I haven't experimented with it since I don't know anyone with a Note/2/10.1 etc.
I had the Note, and just got the Note 2 last weekend. The problem with S Note is that it only seems to sync to the PC as an image. So, you can't edit them on the PC.
The best solution I've found is using OneNote on the phone and PC. And, syncing them via skydrive.
Evernote seems pretty good, but I figured since I already had OneNote installed on the pc I'd try and make that work first, and never got around to Evrenote. It's a bit clunky though. I use the MS app most of the time, bit it doesnt do everything, so I bought MobileNoterSE and that does some things the MS apps doesn't. But neither is a complete solution.
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Best options will be to use something like Google Drive, to use google docs support, or Polaris Office (free with this phone) or QuickOffice to create word documents and sync with somewhere like Dropbox.
This way you will have easily editable files, you lose the ability to do things like the formula thing and easily insert images etc, but it works perfectly for handwriting.
Experience thus far
So, my story thus far.
Firstly, I had a play using S-Note and Evernote together:
To get your handwritten notes into evernote, you export via JPEG to Evernote (note, not a problem in the short term, but I've found the Note2 keeps a copy of the exported docs on the internal storage, so if you use it a lot, it could conceivably munch a lot of your space).
Evernote doesn't (so far as I can find) do OCR on the text to make it machine readable, but it does do an amazing job at OCRing for the purpose of making your handwritten notes searchable. Because it can be a little more "relaxed" in doing this (i.e. if it's not sure if you've written "pound" or "sound", it'll index the word as both for searching purposes) it does a truly wonderful job. It almost makes me wish I'd bought a page-whiz type scanner and fired in my hand written notes over the past few years.
My initial perception of the possible value of this search facility might be enough to make me forego the machine manipulatable part of my requirement.
However...
The handwriting recognition option, replacing the keyboard, built into the phone is very good. It does, I would guesstimate, about an 80% accurate job in recognising my (awful) handwriting in tests yesterday/today (how it fares when used "in anger" vs at my desk tests, I've yet to determine). The advantage here, ofcourse, is that it can deliver machine manipulatable text directly into Evernote, or any other tool you so wish (e.g. Polaris Office as mentioned above).
And, of-course, machine manipulatable text is searchable via any one of a hundred methods or varying complexity and sophistication, as suits your needs.
Ideally...
Of-course, ideally, both would be great. Being able to write, without worrying whether or not the machine "gets it right" is a godsend. I (most of the time) can recognise my handwriting, so if offered both, I could correct where necessary.
My experiments continue!
I'm a teacher and have used the Note II for a couple of weeks. Here are my thoughts:
-I previously used a 7" tablet, a swype-style keyboard and Evernote for making notes
-I bought the Note II after playing with it in the phone shop and seeing how accurate the handwriting recognition was. I have used a Palm PDA in the past and the Samsung system is lightyears ahead of the gesture-style recognition of the Palm.
-I input text now either using handwriting recognition and the S-Pen or voice recognition (when I'm at home and on my own!). It's very possible that using the swype-style keyboard is quicker, but I find in terms of vision, seeing my own handwritten, rather large words on the screen easier to see than the smaller keys of the keyboard, so it works out quicker and is more restful for me.
-I use Evernote for all of my notes. It's amazing. An example is of me helping another teacher assess some speaking and listening tasks in the classroom - I made my comments on my Note & Evernote, then emailed them to her. I now have a copy on Evernote for future reference. I travelled on the train over the weekend and planned all of my lessons on the Note. I'll be able to share these with support assistants easily, can access them from the desktops at school, and they are all automatically tagged with the date.
-I use several Evernote widgets. I use tags and notebooks to keep all the quick-reference notes a touch away, like this week's lesson plans and my timetable. I can find other notes very quickly using the search option.
-I've toyed with writing notes in cursive using the stylus - but in the end think - why would I want to do that, since the handwriting recognition is so good on the Note and I can then edit the text later very easily? My handwriting is not THAT beautiful! If you were really attached to cursive handwriting, S-Note can save notes with both drawing on and written text, although this would be converted to an image file were it then uploaded to Evernote.
-When I have time and energy, I mean to look into Tasker to make note-making more automated, for example opening a new note when I draw out the S-Pen. I'm sure Tasker can save and open notes according to location or calender appointments (you mentioned meetings)
My only wish was that attachments like spreadsheets could be edited and saved while still being attached to the Evernote note. Instead, I used Dropbox for files such as PPT and spreadsheets.
Hope this helps!
emeffeff said:
-When I have time and energy, I mean to look into Tasker to make note-making more automated, for example opening a new note when I draw out the S-Pen. I'm sure Tasker can save and open notes according to location or calender appointments (you mentioned meetings)
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Ooh, now, here's something I've not yet considered. If my notes could be auto-labelled based on the meeting I'm (supposed to be) in. That would be interesting.
Evernote can actually do this already. There is a setting which labels the title of your note with the current appointment from your calendar.
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I have started using Papyrus...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...m5vdmF0aW9uLmFuZHJvaWQucHJvamVjdHBhcHlydXMiXQ..
And Dropbox on my Note 2.
Handwrite notes whilst out at meetings, conferences, etc. Then share to Dropbox in pdf format and thus available on my Desktop when I get back to the office.
Papyrus is still under develeopment and doesn't do OCR afaik. I use my notes for my own recollection, so no need to produce keyboard text or send to colleagues.
Quite simple, but works for me.
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Best options will be to use something like Google Drive, to use google docs support, or Polaris Office (free with this phone) or QuickOffice to create word documents and sync with somewhere like Dropbox.
This way you will have easily editable files, you lose the ability to do things like the formula thing and easily insert images etc, but it works perfectly for handwriting.
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Must admit, this is the way I am leaning at present. The coolness of Evernotes indexed handwriting though continues to appeal