So... Rogers Optimus G is LG-E971 and not E973. Should there be another Canadian forum section for this?
Is the E973 the version for Bell or Telus?
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Is the E973 the version for Bell or Telus?
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Both of them are e973 i believe.
Probably should just use one forum for all the Canadian devices since there is not a huge difference between the three. Just name it properly.
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from what i know all 3 devices are the same in-terms of specs but the Rogers version uses 2600 LTE frequency while Bell/Telus are still at 700. Not sure if its just a softwrae setting or the LTE chip might be different. To me i'm leaning toward software settings, but I really haven't looked to much into it because i'm with Bell.
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from what i know all 3 devices are the same in-terms of specs but the Rogers version uses 2600 LTE frequency while Bell/Telus are still at 700. Not sure if its just a softwrae setting or the LTE chip might be different. To me i'm leaning toward software settings, but I really haven't looked to much into it because i'm with Bell.
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Regardless, this specific forum is for DEVELOPMENT, not discussion.
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Regardless, this specific forum is for DEVELOPMENT, not discussion.
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If there are hardware differences, then the Rogers device needs it's own development section.
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from what i know all 3 devices are the same in-terms of specs but the Rogers version uses 2600 LTE frequency while Bell/Telus are still at 700. Not sure if its just a softwrae setting or the LTE chip might be different. To me i'm leaning toward software settings, but I really haven't looked to much into it because i'm with Bell.
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2600 is a new frequency specific to Rogers. 700 is not used. Robellus uses 1700/2100 (AWS) for LTE.
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If there are hardware differences, then the Rogers device needs it's own development section.
2600 is a new frequency specific to Rogers. 700 is not used. Robellus uses 1700/2100 (AWS) for LTE.
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The point is, discuss this in the general forum, not the DEVELOPMENT FORUM.
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The point is, discuss this in the general forum, not the DEVELOPMENT FORUM.
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yoooo mississauga got some sexy asian chicks ay. lol.
but on a "development note" it would be nice for someone to comfirm that bell, telus, rogers devices are sharing same type of hardware so that way no one will not brick or mess up real bad flashing a custom rom/kernel from one phone company device to another of the same country. just saying. but if these canadian companies has major differences between the two devices then that adds to my list of questions. why this country dont make sense but always down to make dollars!
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just double check and this is the GENERAL SECTION so why cant ppl ask "general questions"?
So are these two phones the same hardware ?
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They're not the same. The LTE chip is different at the very least. Canada doesn't have 700Mhz, so LTE comes from 2600Mhz that Rogers is rolling out. The standard frequencies for LTE are AWS frequencies.
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yoooo mississauga got some sexy asian chicks ay. lol.
but on a "development note" it would be nice for someone to comfirm that bell, telus, rogers devices are sharing same type of hardware so that way no one will not brick or mess up real bad flashing a custom rom/kernel from one phone company device to another of the same country. just saying. but if these canadian companies has major differences between the two devices then that adds to my list of questions. why this country dont make sense but always down to make dollars!
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just double check and this is the GENERAL SECTION so why cant ppl ask "general questions"?
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Because thread got moved.. And there's nothing to do in Mississauga!!! Plus sexy Asian chicks are everywhere
solomon4400 said:
yoooo mississauga got some sexy asian chicks ay. lol.
but on a "development note" it would be nice for someone to comfirm that bell, telus, rogers devices are sharing same type of hardware so that way no one will not brick or mess up real bad flashing a custom rom/kernel from one phone company device to another of the same country. just saying. but if these canadian companies has major differences between the two devices then that adds to my list of questions. why this country dont make sense but always down to make dollars!
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just double check and this is the GENERAL SECTION so why cant ppl ask "general questions"?
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So far, according to a couple people who have tried, CM 10.1 being ported from the N4 works on all the Canadian devices. In terms of whether the network connectivity poses any problems, nobody has mentioned anything about LTE issues on the Rogers phone, and neither chadouming nor myself have the E971.
So, the hardware seems to be basically identical (minus the modem) at this point, until we hear someone say something to the contrary.
It stands to reason that if the N4 can work on all major three with LTE after a settings change, then the Optimus G should be the same, just a different modem for frequency difference.
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So far, according to a couple people who have tried, CM 10.1 being ported from the N4 works on all the Canadian devices. In terms of whether the network connectivity poses any problems, nobody has mentioned anything about LTE issues on the Rogers phone, and neither chadouming nor myself have the E971.
So, the hardware seems to be basically identical (minus the modem) at this point, until we hear someone say something to the contrary.
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whot u mean no wi-fi no nfc ?
iEthos said:
whot u mean no wi-fi no nfc ?
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There were problems with wifi and nfc not working but those have since been fixed
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There were problems with wifi and nfc not working but those have since been fixed
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Yes WIFI is working but NFC is not yet.
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Sometime a go, there was a thread about variants of GNEX, from comments I understand that all GSM are same, only radio software is different,
but on some sites it not mention all 5 3G bands, and only 3 for Europe,
also what about 2.4 and 5 Ghz for WIFI? is it also suffers for Europe or something? or not? I kind of stuck, I really want the device with all standard accessories, mostly the charger, and not search for it, after I buy,
and also be sure it support 850 & 2100 for 3G, the S have also many variants, as SII have toooo many of them, so how can I find out about that issue?
As I said in the other thread... They're all pentaband. Every single model. And yes they support 5ghz wifi.
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As I said in the other thread... They're all pentaband. Every single model. And yes they support 5ghz wifi.
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Well all but the CDMA (Verizon USA model)
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Well all but the CDMA (Verizon USA model)
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Sorry yes. Obviously. You would've had to read the really long thread before where OP wouldn't take my word for it that any i9250 is pentaband...
I think I got it now, I just used to that for US & EU have different frequency devices, see I used to work to one of the mobile manufacturers, and we have sometime 2 type of devices, one for EU and other for US, and maybe it's hard to believe that unicorns exists, heh on the second hand, on old GSM it also not always a "world" phones so it do make sense,
and another funny thing, also 850 band I actually US, here in Israel we use it..because of the ARMY ...to make things even worse, the QUAD GSM no worth to much, as 2 of our providers that still have GSM, have only 1 frequency, the solution was to "share" the networks ,We do have HSPA+, but the future will be LTE ..dunno why, also no 4G here ,the mobile internet cost to much and slow as ****
Hello fellow Canadian GSIII owners: please see below and note which forum you should be looking in for ROMs for your devices:
AT&T forum: SGH-I747 (AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus and SaskTel)
T-Mobile forum: SGH-T999 (T-Mobile, Wind, Mobilicity and Videotron)
Sprint forum: SPH-L710 (Sprint only)
Verizon forum: SGH-I535 (Verizon only)
Developers, please put carrier support in the title of your threads. Thank you!
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Hello XDA,
Can we please get an android development forum for Rogers, Bell, Telus and Wind? Rogers/Bell/Telus phones are SGH-I747M and the Wind version is the SGH-T999, but they all have different basebands and stock ROMs. Trying to put Canadian threads in AT&T and Sprint forums will result in a big mess.
Alternatively, instead of separating by carrier, separate by model number. Keep all the I747 development threads in one forum and T999 threads in another. Then people can put the carrier into the title of the post.
Just something to think about.
Thanks!
I agree. But AFAIK, the Wind/Mobilicity/Videotron S3 is the same as T-Mobile's, not Sprint's.
TLS2000 said:
I agree. But AFAIK, the Wind/Mobilicity/Videotron S3 is the same as T-Mobile's, not Sprint's.
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Indeed it is. I stand corrected.
TLS2000 said:
I agree. But AFAIK, the Wind/Mobilicity/Videotron S3 is the same as T-Mobile's, not Sprint's.
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and the Rogers is the same as AT&T's
historically Rogers and AT&T have been interchangeable in almost every aspect on all the devices they shared. Rogers uses the exact same frequencies as AT&T, and the devices are the same aside from some minor differences in bloat, lte toggle, and native wifi tether
What about the Telus, does that fall under at&t also?
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I agree very hard to follow on what is for which phone, not going to take any chances until things are a little more clear. Still have the old S1 to mess with.
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What about the Telus, does that fall under at&t also?
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I agree very hard to follow on what is for which phone, not going to take any chances until things are a little more clear. Still have the old S1 to mess with.
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AT&T, Rogers, Bell and Telus have the same phone, the SGH-I747. But just because it's the same hardware does not mean it's the same software. It may or may not have different basebands and certainly has different carrier customizations. As Pirateghost mentioned, AT&T removes some features in its ROM (software), the most important being, at least for me, the ability to tether. So if you flash a rooted AT&T ROM on your Canadian device, it will most likely work but you will lose features(!) That's why we need to be very clear about what carrier each ROM is for. Furthermore, if you flash the wrong baseband (i.e. flash a Rogers baseband on a Bell phone), your phone may not work as a phone or it may connect to the wrong network and you will be charged roaming fees. At the moment, I can see that AT&T has a different baseband version from Bell, but Rogers and Bell seem to have the same baseband version. Are they interchangeable? I have no idea. Anyway, it's better not to mix these things up. That's why separate forums are a great idea.
As a SaskTel customer coming from the international i9000, these forums are very confusing and not very organized. I would definitely support more organization.
I guarantee that you won't roam on the other carrier if you flash the wrong baseband (Telus/Bell/Rogers). They don't have roaming agreements in place to allow that. That's why you won't get service with Rogers in some areas where Bell does have service.
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I guarantee that you won't roam on the other carrier if you flash the wrong baseband (Telus/Bell/Rogers). They don't have roaming agreements in place to allow that. That's why you won't get service with Rogers in some areas where Bell does have service.
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That is how it was with the i9000. If I flashed the wrong baseband (for example, a US modem that did not support 850 band), I would just have no reception when I left the city.
Sasktel, Bell, Rogers, Telus all have the AT&T version with tethering left in.
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That is how it was with the i9000. If I flashed the wrong baseband (for example, a US modem that did not support 850 band), I would just have no reception when I left the city.
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OK. Either way, flashing the wrong baseband is a bad idea.
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and the Rogers is the same as AT&T's
historically Rogers and AT&T have been interchangeable in almost every aspect on all the devices they shared. Rogers uses the exact same frequencies as AT&T, and the devices are the same aside from some minor differences in bloat, lte toggle, and native wifi tether
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Except this time around, it seems that there is a slight difference between the two in terms of software, and enough so that I've read posts of people having issues when using at&t based stuff on their rogers phones.
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Except this time around, it seems that there is a slight difference between the two in terms of software, and enough so that I've read posts of people having issues when using at&t based stuff on their rogers phones.
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I've been here before with the vivid, skyrocket, and the one x. You can ignore anything I say but I HAVE dealt with this stuff before.
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So is it safe to say that you can flash the Stock Rom or Custom ROMs for T-Mobile T999 on Wind Mobile's T999V. And at most you lose Roaming and/or a few features?
I already see that there is one or two ROMs that are confirmed for multiple carriers.
A dedicated Canadian Forum is a great idea! There is so much information floating around out there with the multiple variations of the sgs3.
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I've been here before with the vivid, skyrocket, and the one x. You can ignore anything I say but I HAVE dealt with this stuff before.
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As a Rogers user (and relatively new to Android) it freaks the hell out of me to flash custom ROMs based on the AT&T version, because I'm sure I *will* lose tethering and the ability to turn off LTE.
That's the stupid thing - it'd be rather simple to have subforums dedicated to the canadian devices, because the software is different (not only the bloatware, but apparently some more stuff too) and the baseband is also different, which could lead to problems down the line, no?
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As a Rogers user (and relatively new to Android) it freaks the hell out of me to flash custom ROMs based on the AT&T version, because I'm sure I *will* lose tethering and the ability to turn off LTE.
That's the stupid thing - it'd be rather simple to have subforums dedicated to the canadian devices, because the software is different (not only the bloatware, but apparently some more stuff too) and the baseband is also different, which could lead to problems down the line, no?
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If a rom is done the right way you won't lose any functionality. You can't honestly believe that at&t users don't want those features. I prefer to build all my roms from a rogers base for the simple reason that it is less work for that functionality.
PS. Any rom dev should know better than to force a modem/radio/baseband change on their users.
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Sasktel, Bell, Rogers, Telus all have the AT&T version with tethering left in.
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That might be true but if you check your firmware versions, they aren't the same as AT&T's.
Also, I have flashed most of the international radio's on my older I9100 and never had a problem in Canada or US when travelling. They may not be customized for that country but they do work.
I PMd one of the mods with a link to this thread. There seems to be interest in a forum for Canadian carriers, so let's see if we can make it happen.
By the way thanks to everyone chiming in with their two cents. I am not a developer, and although I've been around xda a while, it was always as a user. I''ve written a guide or two on how to root and flash devices, but it was always based on other people's work. So I am learning all this as I go along.
I come from the desire z/g2 forums. G2 is t mobile, The desire z is run on multiple networks globally. Baseband are set by the phone, not the radio (I think that is the same thing as a modern?). On my Desire z running on Rogers, I flashed T-Mobile radios and international radios which worked on Rogers no problem.
Features of a rom are determined by the dev, if you don't like something, flash something else or restore your nandroid backup. Read the op and ask the dev if you are unsure about any features on a Rom.
I would think the only models that should be separated in forums are the international version, totally different processor and maybe Verizon cdma. From a sheer volume of users standpoint, further division is warranted. You think this is bad, wait until Verizon and At&t widely launch, this current setup will be complete chaos.
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guies Is it possible to make GS3 to run on CDMA network as some guies in this forum could hack the Verizon GS3 and have made it able to run on GSM network?
has any one tried before? if any one have an idea we can share the info in order to do that so. If you can notice once you use this code *#*#4636#*#* you can find CDMA only and other types of CDMA there and I heard that S GS3 has the ability to run both CDMA and GSM.
Let's give it a try
CDMA is an actual built in internal radio. Not every GS3 has it, only the CDMA ones do (Sprint and Verizon). They are global phones, and by that means, its only for GSM networks. I can't make a solely strict AT&T made phone, into a Verizon CDMA phone. That's all hardware
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CDMA is an actual built in internal radio. Not every GS3 has it, only the CDMA ones do (Sprint and Verizon). They are global phones, and by that means, its only for GSM networks. I can't make a solely strict AT&T made phone, into a Verizon CDMA phone. That's all hardware
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But then all US GS3's share the same hardware or SOC's...so by this running a T999 on the CDMA network should be possible. But then why would you? Tmobile already offers the best plans covering the best network out of all the others?
All personal opinion on the last part
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could you do a favor for me? just give me a software that can amend the radio band as I hardly want to try. From what I understood through reading some info in some forums, Galaxy S3 not like the older phones and it can run both GSM and CDMA and I hope that's right. I just need some help to try this in my international GS3. Let's try we are not going to lose any thing..........
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could you do a favor for me? just give me a software that can amend the radio band as I hardly want to try. From what I understood through reading some info in some forums, Galaxy S3 not like the older phones and it can run both GSM and CDMA and I hope that's right. I just need some help to try this in my international GS3. Let's try we are not going to lose any thing..........
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See now thats where you lose it. The international GS3 has a totally different SOC than the US variants, therefore you will not be able to run for any US CDMA network. You can flash any radio you want...but that's only if you want a $700 paperweight ofcourse
The us variants are WCDMA or CDMA 2000 as I want to try it in my country where the type is CDMA 2000?
so you mean if I flashed a radio that is not compatible with my GS3 it will damage it???? is there any app that can control the radio without out a risk???
have you had a look to this thread Set up Verizon Galaxy S3 as World GSM Phone (confirmed working) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314 I mean a way like this or similar to it???
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But then all US GS3's share the same hardware or SOC's...so by this running a T999 on the CDMA network should be possible. But then why would you? Tmobile already offers the best plans covering the best network out of all the others?
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No they don't. The T-999 uses an MSM8260a chip, for one. There is no CDMA hardware in the GSM versions.
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The us variants are WCDMA or CDMA 2000 as I want to try it in my country where the type is CDMA 2000?
so you mean if I flashed a radio that is not compatible with my GS3 it will damage it???? is there any app that can control the radio without out a risk???
have you had a look to this thread Set up Verizon Galaxy S3 as World GSM Phone (confirmed working) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314 I mean a way like this or similar to it???
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No. An international S3 is completely different from a US GSM S3. Neither has CDMA hardware in them. At all.
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No they don't. The T-999 uses an MSM8260a chip, for one.
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I thought all US S3's had the Q MSM8960?
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I thought all US S3's had the Q MSM8960?
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The T-999 uses an MSM8260a which is for all intents and purposes, an MSM8960 without LTE.
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I thought all US S3's had the Q MSM8960?
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I think only ATT/VERIZON/SPRINT/USCC use MSM8960. T-mobile lacks LTE and went with MSM8260a.
So only the ATT GS3 SGH-I747 would possibly be capable of running on CDMA. The international i9300 would not work on CDMA no matter what.
It MAY be possible to make the Verizon SCH-i535/USCC SCH-R530U version work on both CDMA/GSM. Currently the CDMA i535 works on CDMA 800/1900, international gsm/wcdma 850/900/1800/1900 and domestic gsm 850/1900 but no HSPA+ yet.
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only the SCH-R530U, SCH-I535 and SGH-I747 versions are possible candidates of doing both full gsm and cdma.
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The T-999 uses an MSM8260a which is for all intents and purposes, an MSM8960 without LTE.
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Can you point me to the right direction? Because everywhere i look it says that the T999 does indeed have the MSM8960
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Can you point me to the right direction? Because everywhere i look it says that the T999 does indeed have the MSM8960
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30631797&postcount=3
the pdf he links has some good info. seems the SCH-R530U, SCH-I535 and SGH-I747 versions all support both cdma/evdo and 850/900/1800/1900 GSM/WCDMA
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I think only ATT/VERIZON/SPRINT/USCC use MSM8960. T-mobile lacks LTE and went with MSM8260a.
So only the ATT GS3 SGH-I747 would possibly be capable of running on CDMA. The international i9300 would not work on CDMA no matter what.
It MAY be possible to make the Verizon SCH-i535/USCC SCH-R530U version work on both CDMA/GSM. Currently the CDMA i535 works on CDMA 800/1900, international gsm/wcdma 850/900/1800/1900 and domestic gsm 850/1900 but no HSPA+ yet.
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Keep in mind though that CDMA running on 800/1900 and GSM WCDMA running on 800/1900 are not the same thing.
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Keep in mind though that CDMA running on 800/1900 and GSM WCDMA running on 800/1900 are not the same thing.
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indeed.. but if the verizon version can do cdma 800/1900... as well as domestic gsm 850/1900..
and atts version obviously supports all of its own bands... they wouldnt have a different SOC between them both. so it seems its only possible for MSM8960 to support all... yet somehow locking out whats not used by the carrier.
Guys, even if the Verison S3 works on GSM, that doesn't mean T-Mobile's GSM will work on CDMA. It will not.
If car engine X from car A, fits and works decently well in car B, that DOES NOT mean that car engine Y from car B will fit and work on car A.
You can ask the same question ten different ways and you'll still have the same answer; the T999 will and cannot work on CDMA. Yes, the US S3s have the same hardware, EXCEPT radios.
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Guys, even if the Verison S3 works on GSM, that doesn't mean T-Mobile's GSM will work on CDMA. It will not.
If car engine X from car A, fits and works decently well in car B, that DOES NOT mean that car engine Y from car B will fit and work on car A.
You can ask the same question ten different ways and you'll still have the same answer; the T999 will and cannot work on CDMA. Yes, the US S3s have the same hardware, EXCEPT radios.
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We've already accepted this... we're looking at ATT/VZW/USCC only. VZW/USCC will have the best chance of doing both.
guise, what are uscc and vzw? Are those US variants? Currently, l'm looking for the gs3 hardware to make sure it's somehow able to run Cdma. What should i look for in it's hardware ?
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guise, what are uscc and vzw? Are those US variants? Currently, l'm looking for the gs3 hardware to make sure it's somehow able to run Cdma. What should i look for in it's hardware ?
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Yes those are US variants.
have you achieved any progress yet?
Any differences? I know the quad processor was a big difference on the note 1. I think thats been taken care of. How about the home button? Are they soft on the international version?
No differences buddy. It will be released to all 5 major networks here in the US by mid-November. With LTE (except T-Mobile, HSPA+) and with a Quad Core.
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Only Difference is bands
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No differences buddy. It will be released to all 5 major networks here in the US by mid-November. With LTE (except T-Mobile, HSPA+) and with a Quad Core.
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Appears the N7105 will be international and support European LTE bands, which is different from USA. Appears the N7100 will support LTE bands (ATT etc) in U.S., but not totally confirmed. Just pointing out, still a question. if you just wait to get from ATT, as an example, previous post is totally correct, no differences at this point.
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Appears the N7105 will be international and support European LTE bands, which is different from USA. Appears the N7100 will support LTE bands (ATT etc) in U.S., but not totally confirmed. Just pointing out, still a question. if you just wait to get from ATT, as an example, previous post is totally correct, no differences at this point.
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Well I hope the international bands are the same for LTE, Cause I wanna plan on buying the international one, Upgrading my N7000. The reason why is cause By the time I pay for TAXES to pay retail at AT&T It would be about $50 dollars cheaper to buy the international one
Wonder if the international one will have more support?
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Well I hope the international bands are the same for LTE, Cause I wanna plan on buying the international one, Upgrading my N7000. The reason why is cause By the time I pay for TAXES to pay retail at AT&T It would be about $50 dollars cheaper to buy the international one
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This is interesting I am in the market for new phone and services. I would think that having the international version would be nice for being able to switch carriers
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Wonder if the international one will have more support?
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Traditionally the international units tend to get software updates sooner.
Does anyone know if the exynos will have SVDO support like the us versions of the gs3?
At least the sprint version will have cdma, GSM, and LTE.
No details so far about the Verizon model.
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At least the sprint version will have cdma, GSM, and LTE.
No details so far about the Verizon model.
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GMS on sprint? I think not.
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GMS on sprint? I think not.
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Actually, according to Sprint Press Release Sprints version WILL HAVE GSM bands and will be a world phone.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/news/galaxynoteiifactsheet.htm
Nevermind, detele.
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Actually, according to Sprint Press Release Sprints version WILL HAVE GSM bands and will be a world phone.
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I don't see it said anywhere that it will be a world phone. Yea it will support GSM but that alone doesn't make it a world phone.
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I don't see it said anywhere that it will be a world phone. Yea it will support GSM but that alone doesn't make it a world phone.
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if it supports GSM when it's a CDMA phone then it is a world phone...... reading the info from the link it's a world phone without a doubt. unless they have the wrong info posted.
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if it supports GSM when it's a CDMA phone then it is a world phone...... reading the info from the link it's a world phone without a doubt. unless they have the wrong info posted.
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Support for GSM is just a part of it. It need to be able to use multiple frequency bands(which it does) normally it it's tri/quad band it's ok, But also it need to have a SIM slot which you can replace SIM card from carrier outside the US then you can call that a world phone.
Cheeze[iT] said:
Wonder if the international one will have more support?
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I definatly think so, international variants always have in the past anyways, that's why im getting the international one plus LTE isn't a must for me.
tomdroid3 said:
I definatly think so, international variants always have in the past anyways, that's why im getting the international one plus LTE isn't a must for me.
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It's because the chipset has been different. In this case, Note 2 will have the same Exynos for all models. It means compatibility across the board is a possibility.
slicingtaco said:
No differences buddy. It will be released to all 5 major networks here in the US by mid-November. With LTE (except T-Mobile, HSPA+) and with a Quad Core.
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Saw where they passed thru the FCC on Oct 2nd and there were 3 different drawings... Does that mean anything? (cuz 2 out of the 3 drawings looked funky : (
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Ms.Dummbunny said:
Saw where they passed thru the FCC on Oct 2nd and there were 3 different drawings... Does that mean anything? (cuz 2 out of the 3 drawings looked funky : (
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Nope it means nothing at all.
All of the Major US carriers have already leaked pics of their Note II's.
They are all the same no difference at all.
someone0 said:
Support for GSM is just a part of it. It need to be able to use multiple frequency bands(which it does) normally it it's tri/quad band it's ok, But also it need to have a SIM slot which you can replace SIM card from carrier outside the US then you can call that a world phone.
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Ive never seen a gsm phone without a sim... have you? (Trick question, hint hint (
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Alright so the point of this thread is to help people with their LG Optimus G for Rogers Wireless in Canada, also known simply as E971
Here are the official specs:
from LG:
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones/lg-LGE971-optimus-g
from Rogers:
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...normal&productId_Detailed=OPTIMUSGBLK&N=52+11
The main difference from this phone and the E973 version is the 700/2600mhz LTE frequency for Rogers as opposed to 700/1700 for Bell/Telus/Sasktel
The 2600MHz LTE spectrum (2x20MHz band) is the frequency used for LTE that has the most bandwidth available making it the fastest LTE band. Typical download speeds experienced will range from 12 Mbps up to 40Mbps. -from the Roger's site
This means that LTE will not work with other LTE such as BELL or TELUS unless they roll out a 700/2600mhz network, Fido piggy backs on Rogers and *should* work
Here are some of the more important threads to have your phone rooted and have a unlocked bootloader, up to know i do not know of any custom roms available for the E971
Give these guys your thanks and donate if you can
You'll have to root first then unlock the bootloader
Root:
Bin4ry's Root MANY ANDROID
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
(confirmed working on E97120D)
unlocked bootloader:
Team Codefire's Project FreeGee
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007961
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=edu.shell.freegee (Donate)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=edu.shell.freegee_free (Free)
If you want to keep your root and unlocked Bootloader do not update to the latest OTA (E97110E_00), you will lose root permanatly and Bin4ry's methode will not work anymore the previous version is linked at the 2nd post (E97110D_00)
more info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2053880
to disable the OTA app:
"Disable" via Settings > Apps > All > Software Update > Tap Disable.
or freeze with Titanium Backup "Software Update 3.1.0"
Removing carrierware (only do if you have v0.5+ of FreeGee and Root or else you'll get a the security error bootloop)
You'll also receive the Security error if you tinker with the Google Apps that come with this phone (ex, google movies, google books, etc)
remove or delete the .apk , freezing with Titanium works as well
Locations
/vendor/apps-rgs/
/system/vendor/apps-rgs/
/data/app-system
Other Stuff
E971 wont work with Bell LTE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2000629
USB Drivers:
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/support-mobile/lg-LGE971
[STOCK ROM] LG Optimus G CANADA E971 E973 Firmware / Service Manual
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036404
working Roms:
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CyanogenMod 10.1 by chadouming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2031261
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[4.2.2] AOKP - geeb CDN *unofficial* by Paulicat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318196
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[UNOFFICIAL]AOSPA-3.69 :Hello Halo by x10forevers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383089
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A nice debloated stock rom found here (based off E)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098777
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Jelly bean is here for root and unlocked bootloader users:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...2#post37437712
follow instructions exaclty as described in OP
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KDZ:
links are no longer working
This makes me even MORE glad I bought an E970 instead of the E971. The Rogers phone doesn't even support both THEIR OWN FREQUENCIES, because the AWS band would mean the phone could easily be used on Telus or Bell. So the E971 doesn't actually get better LTE coverage than Galaxy S2s or iPhone5s by offering both bands Rogers supports.
The E971 supports 2600 and 700, 700 being the main frequency for AT&T in the US which is shared with the E970 but not supported by ANY carrier in Canada until after the 700mhz spectrum auction which isn't for another YEAR. But with an E970 on Rogers I still get the AWS band , and it is ALSO usable on Bell or Telus!
So overall, the AT&T phone gives just as good coverage out of the box, and better options for changing carriers and roaming than either regular Canadian model.
**** you, Rogers.
Thank you! This is very helpful!
amrando said:
This makes me even MORE glad I bought an E970 instead of the E971. The Rogers phone doesn't even support both THEIR OWN FREQUENCIES, because the AWS band would mean the phone could easily be used on Telus or Bell. So the E971 doesn't actually get better LTE coverage than Galaxy S2s or iPhone5s by offering both bands Rogers supports.
The E971 supports 2600 and 700, 700 being the main frequency for AT&T in the US which is shared with the E970 but not supported by ANY carrier in Canada until after the 700mhz spectrum auction which isn't for another YEAR. But with an E970 on Rogers I still get the AWS band , and it is ALSO usable on Bell or Telus!
So overall, the AT&T phone gives just as good coverage out of the box, and better options for changing carriers and roaming than either regular Canadian model.
**** you, Rogers.
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With all due respect, unless you plan on changing carriers, then the E971 does in fact have the fastest up/down speeds. 2600 is basically empty right now, like driving a Ferrari down an empty highway. Not many people buy a phone knowing they'll be switching carriers - I certainly don't.
On a separate note, anyone else get a little happy tingle inside everytime the LTE icon comes on?
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With all due respect, unless you plan on changing carriers, then the E971 does in fact have the fastest up/down speeds. 2600 is basically empty right now, like driving a Ferrari down an empty highway. Not many people buy a phone knowing they'll be switching carriers - I certainly don't.
On a separate note, anyone else get a little happy tingle inside everytime the LTE icon comes on?
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im in Winnipeg = no LTE lol
fingers crossed for 2013
BloodBaron said:
im in Winnipeg = no LTE lol
fingers crossed for 2013
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Move to Toronto - I'll find you your dream home !
(I'm a Real Estate Agent with Royal LePage)
I thought Rogers uses AWS frequencies for LTE... How else would the Nexus 4 get LTE? Because I know the Canadian mobile industry has an upcoming 700Mhz auction coming up and everyone wants the small 3 to win it.
Proof: http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/03/14/o...13-plus-were-loosening-telecom-foreign-rules/
More proof: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...33+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a
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I thought Rogers uses AWS frequencies for LTE... How else would the Nexus 4 get LTE? Because I know the Canadian mobile industry has an upcoming 700Mhz auction coming up and everyone wants the small 3 to win it.
Proof: http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/03/14/o...13-plus-were-loosening-telecom-foreign-rules/
More proof: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...33+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a
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as far as i know the optimus g specs from LG/Rogers say the phone uses 700/2600 bands, im sure rogers has 700/1700 AWS deployed as well for other lte capable phones,
well that would be my best guess
From what I've read Rogers has the standard AWS frequency LTE, but is also rolling out an additional 2600MHz network in addition to AWS, providing a nice empty spectrum and supposedly better coverage in rural areas. This is supposed to be in partnership with Bell, but Bell is apparently not supporting the frequency at this time. This lead to my issues with Bell LTE linked in the OP.
In theory, if you have 2600MHz coverage, you should be able to get better throughput due to the empty spectrum, but in practice (from my limited testing) you get generally the same speeds as any other Rogers LTE phone (such as the iPhone, which is not using 2600MHz).
Has anyone tried the Base 0.5 Rom over in the at&t optimus G forum. Just wondering if it would work for the E91.
If you have what are your results?
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Has anyone tried the Base 0.5 Rom over in the at&t optimus G forum. Just wondering if it would work for the E91.
If you have what are your results?
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I think someone did flash it. They said it worked. I'm not sure how because I thought partitions were different. I think it was an E973 though.
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cfoucher said:
Has anyone tried the Base 0.5 Rom over in the at&t optimus G forum. Just wondering if it would work for the E91.
If you have what are your results?
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dimsler said:
I have installed this rom on the E971 Rogers edition, all seems to work fine.
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from the att dev thread
gonna try later today myself
BloodBaron said:
from the att dev thread
gonna try later today myself
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just flashed the_Base_v05 rom from att forum
didnt seem to do a thing altho everything seemed to "flash" ok
BloodBaron said:
just flashed the_Base_v05 rom from att forum
didnt seem to do a thing altho everything seemed to "flash" ok
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So it works? What about the LTE?
geokilla said:
So it works? What about the LTE?
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No it didn't apply any of actual changes just flashed successfully
I chose the Gmail 4.2 option and I'm still on the stock version
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Hello Dear Winnipeger,
So as the OP suggests, I assume that I can achieve root on the link provided right? Anyone can confirm this?
I luv yah all!
EDIT: and yes it's working.....root achieved
Yup that's the root method I used as well works very well
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BloodBaron said:
Yup that's the root method I used as well works very well
Sent from my LG-E971 using xda premium
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Yeah, I need to make my searching skills better. I did not know that there is A "Super One-Click Root" for ICS/JB. I believe in 2.2 and 2.3 days, there is one like this piece of rooting method but the development stopped after 2.3 for ICS has a very different system. Now some genius came up with this one....simply awesome!
EDIT: and it is a good idea to push "SuperSU" rather than the traditional Superuser app. It works better on Android devices with a custom UI on it. In other notes, I unlocked the bootloader (i think) but I don't see any indications on boot screen whatsoever that indicates that the device is unlocked. Maybe I failed on the boot loader unlock...
joncwchao said:
From what I've read Rogers has the standard AWS frequency LTE, but is also rolling out an additional 2600MHz network in addition to AWS, providing a nice empty spectrum and supposedly better coverage in rural areas. This is supposed to be in partnership with Bell, but Bell is apparently not supporting the frequency at this time. This lead to my issues with Bell LTE linked in the OP.
In theory, if you have 2600MHz coverage, you should be able to get better throughput due to the empty spectrum, but in practice (from my limited testing) you get generally the same speeds as any other Rogers LTE phone (such as the iPhone, which is not using 2600MHz).
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Correct
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