Am asking all the Reputable devs/ "Knowledgeable" Personel this same question..I have the 16GB GNII and I am wandering what the best method is when it comes to Internal vs External storing of apps and roms. When I D/L a rom, is it better to have it stored in the Internal memory or External memory (to conserve space) prior to installation? Also regarding apps that save data, does it matter to have it in Internal/External memory. Backups are also another concern of mine. Should they be store in Internal/External Memory. Again, I am trying to conserve space but I don't want to jeopardize performance.
By default everything is installed into the internal memory. Some apps, like the camera will ask you if you want to have the ext memory as the storage but that is the exception.
What you store on the internal storage will not impact the speed of your device but will take up space and limit what else you can put on the "16GB" internal storage
There are scripts that will swap the internal memory with the external memory thus increasing the amount of apps (and media files) you can put on your device. This swap will cause a slight delay in the function of the phone but may not be noticeable.
There is an app called Binder which does allow more of the data from the apps to be placed on to the ext memory but I have not used it and can not comment on how well it works.
As to where to store ROMS you download for install, either location is good as TWRP allows you to flash from either.
Hope this helps a little.
Doc
DocEsq said:
By default everything is installed into the internal memory. Some apps, like the camera will ask you if you want to have the ext memory as the storage but that is the exception.
What you store on the internal storage will not impact the speed of your device but will take up space and limit what else you can put on the "16GB" internal storage
There are scripts that will swap the internal memory with the external memory thus increasing the amount of apps (and media files) you can put on your device. This swap will cause a slight delay in the function of the phone but may not be noticeable.
There is an app called Binder which does allow more of the data from the apps to be placed on to the ext memory but I have not used it and can not comment on how well it works.
As to where to store ROMS you download for install, either location is good as TWRP allows you to flash from either.
Hope this helps a little.
Doc
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Thanks Doc..It does help a bit..
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Ok just go ahead and forgive me if this is a noob question or just so obvious that I've overlooked it... Like a lot of you, I like to flash (roms!)...a lot. And of course most of the time this involves a full wipe and reinstall of my apps. So since I have to reinstall everything anyway, what is the big deal about being able to put apps on the SD card? Is there some way they can be installed on the SD card without losing them during a rom change?
If you have a lot of apps, moving to sd will save space in the internal memory. Whenever you flash a new ROM, you will have to reinstall apps each time, no matter where they are stored. IMO, Titanium Backup does a great job restoring apps, and doesn't really take that long to do.
Thanks trickster...so you're referring to the internal memory vs internal storage correct? So the apps use the internal memory like the RAM on a PC but if they're on the SD card, they use the SD card space instead? Does this add a perfomance boost as well conceivably?
The apps use internal memory no matter where they are stored. It's the storage space that is saved internal vs SD card. Some apps, however, require that they are on internal storage to work more efficiently.
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i have a question about memory on my phone..
SD card = 7.40GB / 5.38GB free
INternalStorage = 6.4GB / 6.17GB Free?
phone memory = 748MB / 83.7MB free..
how can i utilize the Internal Storage? for contacts perhaps or pics, movies, music, aps?
droid INc.
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WildStang desired sens 3
Use a file explorer like Astro or ES File Explorer to manually place files (pics, movies, music) on the internal memory. Otherwise, plug your phone into a computer and place the files onto the internal memory. Courtesy of HTC, apps save to the "Phone Memory" using 150 mb's of the 748 mb. The main alternate save location for apps is the sd card thus the reason there is a "Move to sd card" option within each app's settings under "Settings/Applications/Manage Applications."
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Use a file explorer like Astro or ES File Explorer to manually place files (pics, movies, music) on the internal memory. Otherwise, plug your phone into a computer and place the files onto the internal memory. Courtesy of HTC, apps save to the "Phone Memory" using 150 mb's of the 748 mb. The main alternate save location for apps is the sd card thus the reason there is a "Move to sd card" option within each app's settings under "Settings/Applications/Manage Applications."
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i have done it threw the computer before.. and i have a file manager.. but it only see the one SD card.. the extrnal one..
the computer sees the 2 Different Cards..
but when i try to find the internal SD card threw a file managers on the phone i can not see where it is.. i see it in settings... but when ever i try to use a file manager or ap manager it only gives me the external card to move aps to?
The 6 GB's of internal memory is listed as "emmc" and is inaccessible only if the rom dev says so. I'm not sure you are searching for the proper term, are you able to see "emmc" within your file manager? I took a look at Wildstang's Desired HD thread and his latest version supports emmc (internal memory). If I recall correctly, earlier versions did not have access to internal GB (the 6GB's of space) because the port is from a phone with no internal storage but this is no longer the case. You should be able to move photos, videos, music to emmc especially since you said have access to it via your computer.
1) Are you on his latest update?
2) What specifically are you asking for help with (moving apps or simply accessing that space)?
Edit: For moving apps, the most I know is that you can move apps to sd or back to your phone. In regards to expanding the 150mb partition of your internal memory, I have no experience doing so. Hopefully someone else can provide input on this.
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The 6 GB's of internal memory is listed as "emmc" and is inaccessible only if the rom dev says so. I'm not sure you are searching for the proper term, are you able to see "emmc" within your file manager? I took a look at Wildstang's Desired HD thread and his latest version supports emmc (internal memory). If I recall correctly, earlier versions did not have access to internal GB (the 6GB's of space) because the port is from a phone with no internal storage but this is no longer the case. You should be able to move photos, videos, music to emmc especially since you said have access to it via your computer.
1) Are you on his latest update?
2) What specifically are you asking for help with (moving apps or simply accessing that space)?
Edit: For moving apps, the most I know is that you can move apps to sd or back to your phone. In regards to expanding the 150mb partition of your internal memory, I have no experience doing so. Hopefully someone else can provide input on this.
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thank you for the explanation..
i beleave i am running the latest version. (V.5) of Wildstang
yeah i was just wondering if there was a way to move contacts and aps to that internal memory so the other phone memory would be less crowded and maybe run smoother.
i dont understand how this memory is being used.. there is an internal SD memory.. that i guess is partitioned.. and the smaller partition is used for all the functions of the phone? what is the larger partition used for then?
so i can drop images and music to that section then from the PC
and put aps on the external SD only..
I believe I misinformed you, the 748mb's of of phone storage is all for apps. Im trying to recall where and why I got 150 mb's from.
748 mb = app storage
6.x gb of internal storage (emmc) = Whatever you want to save (music, videos, photos)
7.4 gb sd card = save music, videos, some apps, photos
Hope that clarifies appropriately.
But to use the internal storage, just copy and paste movie or music files to the emmc (if using file explorer on your phone) or using your computer into either "Mp3" folder or "Video" on the Internal memory. I don't play movies on my phone so I don't have experience with that at all. You'll know which is the internal memory vs. Sd card memory if you just look at the space available to identify one from the other.
So, I got my device s-off and rooted, was pretty excited when I had those stuff done.
But now,
Internal memory is still an issue, I read on xda like, removing the bundled or stock software comes with the phone won't make the internal memory get increased because those files are stored somewhere else that won't effect the total usable internal memory. Plus removing stock apps will stop using OTA updates.
So is there a trick that I can increase the internal memory of my phone? I already use the default save location setted to sd card, and moving apps to sd but it always leaves some files at internal memory.
I read somewhere like, I can make phone use my sd card's some part as internal memory, I saw a rom offering that but except that is there any program offering this without flashing rom?
And I have some knowledge about Linux, so I was wondering do I have a chance to use symlink command (symbolic link) to link my internal memory to sd card ?
Best way is to use a ROM with Darktremor Apps2SD preinstalled. I don't know whether it will work if you install it now.
The best alternative, in my opinion, is to format a partition of your SD card to ext3 with this guide and then use Link2SD.The partition can be as big as you want, but I believe that 500 MB should be enough.
It will earn you some space but not as much as the Darktremor Apps2SD will.
Thanks for the answer, I used the guide and Link2SD, but i am a bit confused here, I also use apps 2 sd program,
So for using less possible internal memory of my phone,
Should I install apps to phone memory and then link to sd card with link2sd
or
Install app in sd card (or move it with link2sd to sd card) then link?
Right now one of apps shown as Linked -> SD card. So is this the best scenario?
Because when I choose move to SD in Apps 2 SD, Link2SD says move to SD also, so it kinda like they conflict
To tell you the truth I'm not completely sure for what is better, but what I did was to first link all of them (application, dalvik & library if possible) and then move them to sd card with App2SD. I think there was a slight difference to the free space but nothing noticeable. Sorry, but I'm no expert, so everything I did was by trial and error!
Hey,
As probably lots of you guys, I suffer from a lack of internal storage space (180mb, where 150mb was already taken after 2 hours of usage, having only installed 2-3 apps :s). As I want to avoid having to mount my SD in some tropical ways, I try to install as much as possible on the SD.
I however noticed that installing apps on SD also uses some internal storage? E.g. after installing Cut The Rope & Angry Birds, both apps +- took 30mb each on the SD, but also 5mb on the internal storage.
Is this normal?
Also, if you guys have any hints on how to decrease internal usage, you're welcome.. (already installed cache cleaners, no pics are on the internal storage, ..)
Thanks in advance!
Sven
the solution is to create a ext4 partition in sd card and use link2sd app available in play store, but after some time the memory will get full aswell.
another method is int2ext4 script that increase the internal storage and the internal memory will stay clean but you must have a good sd card atleast a class 6 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
you must have a rooted phone to use these things
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the solution is to create a ext4 partition in sd card and use link2sd app available in play store, but after some time the memory will get full aswell.
another method is int2ext4 script that increase the internal storage and the internal memory will stay clean but you must have a good sd card atleast a class 6 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
you must have a rooted phone to use these things
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thanks!
I've read some stuff on both options, isn't link2sd a more 'dynamic' & safe option? You can specify manually which app you run on your internal/sd, allowing you to keep the most important apps on the faster internal storage?
If you use link2sd & choose to link EVERY app to the external sd, wouldn't that also cause the internal memory to be +- empty?
link2sd is better but after some time the internal memory will get full.
if you install a ton of apps and games use int2ext4 (without the +)
Sven_Vl said:
Hey,
As probably lots of you guys, I suffer from a lack of internal storage space (180mb, where 150mb was already taken after 2 hours of usage, having only installed 2-3 apps :s). As I want to avoid having to mount my SD in some tropical ways, I try to install as much as possible on the SD.
I however noticed that installing apps on SD also uses some internal storage? E.g. after installing Cut The Rope & Angry Birds, both apps +- took 30mb each on the SD, but also 5mb on the internal storage.
Is this normal?
Also, if you guys have any hints on how to decrease internal usage, you're welcome.. (already installed cache cleaners, no pics are on the internal storage, ..)
Thanks in advance!
Sven
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it because link2sd just only link apk file not dalvik file and cache
porozex said:
link2sd is better but after some time the internal memory will get full.
if you install a ton of apps and games use int2ext4 (without the +)
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because you just use link2sd like usually user do, there is more way you can do with link2sd that make you have more bigger storage
folow this Link2sd More Advanced. this trick can be use for stock too.
if you using link2sd than 2nd partition using fat32 file type :victory:
In order to free up some internal memory on my A3 2017 Android 8, I moved all moveable apps to an external SD card.
The problem is, when one of these apps is updated, this app is moved back to internal memory.
Is there a way to permanently leave these apps in the external memory?
Sadly no, that's how Android works. The system has to move the apps back to internal storage in order to update them. Play Store can't write on the SD card.
Ok, thanks for your answer.
... is it possible to mount the sd-card as internal storage?
I have the same problem. I want to use the phone any longer, because it works ... but the space is the problem.
It is possible but you must root your phone to do this.
Some bank apps will also not work with this solution.
It is a shame that this phone is only equiped with 16 gigs of internal memory.
I like it a lot because it fits my needs and that it is small enough to fit in my pocket.