Hey,
As probably lots of you guys, I suffer from a lack of internal storage space (180mb, where 150mb was already taken after 2 hours of usage, having only installed 2-3 apps :s). As I want to avoid having to mount my SD in some tropical ways, I try to install as much as possible on the SD.
I however noticed that installing apps on SD also uses some internal storage? E.g. after installing Cut The Rope & Angry Birds, both apps +- took 30mb each on the SD, but also 5mb on the internal storage.
Is this normal?
Also, if you guys have any hints on how to decrease internal usage, you're welcome.. (already installed cache cleaners, no pics are on the internal storage, ..)
Thanks in advance!
Sven
the solution is to create a ext4 partition in sd card and use link2sd app available in play store, but after some time the memory will get full aswell.
another method is int2ext4 script that increase the internal storage and the internal memory will stay clean but you must have a good sd card atleast a class 6 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
you must have a rooted phone to use these things
porozex said:
the solution is to create a ext4 partition in sd card and use link2sd app available in play store, but after some time the memory will get full aswell.
another method is int2ext4 script that increase the internal storage and the internal memory will stay clean but you must have a good sd card atleast a class 6 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
you must have a rooted phone to use these things
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thanks!
I've read some stuff on both options, isn't link2sd a more 'dynamic' & safe option? You can specify manually which app you run on your internal/sd, allowing you to keep the most important apps on the faster internal storage?
If you use link2sd & choose to link EVERY app to the external sd, wouldn't that also cause the internal memory to be +- empty?
link2sd is better but after some time the internal memory will get full.
if you install a ton of apps and games use int2ext4 (without the +)
Sven_Vl said:
Hey,
As probably lots of you guys, I suffer from a lack of internal storage space (180mb, where 150mb was already taken after 2 hours of usage, having only installed 2-3 apps :s). As I want to avoid having to mount my SD in some tropical ways, I try to install as much as possible on the SD.
I however noticed that installing apps on SD also uses some internal storage? E.g. after installing Cut The Rope & Angry Birds, both apps +- took 30mb each on the SD, but also 5mb on the internal storage.
Is this normal?
Also, if you guys have any hints on how to decrease internal usage, you're welcome.. (already installed cache cleaners, no pics are on the internal storage, ..)
Thanks in advance!
Sven
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it because link2sd just only link apk file not dalvik file and cache
porozex said:
link2sd is better but after some time the internal memory will get full.
if you install a ton of apps and games use int2ext4 (without the +)
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because you just use link2sd like usually user do, there is more way you can do with link2sd that make you have more bigger storage
folow this Link2sd More Advanced. this trick can be use for stock too.
if you using link2sd than 2nd partition using fat32 file type :victory:
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I used my recovery (psfMod http://psfmod.klutsh.com/) to partition my SD card. I chose my EXT to be 1024mb (1gb) and my swap to be 0
when i booted back up, i only gained 100mb of internal phone memory.
Am i not undertsanding how A2SD works? I thought that if you partitioned your SD properly, the internal memory total will increase and everything moves on..
Am i doing something wrong?
Don't worry. You won't see that extra 1gig added to the internal memory but, when you install new apps, the internal memory shouldn't go down much as they are installed to the SD EXT.
Cool
Also, should i uninstall my apps and reinstall them so they get moved to teh SD? or does it not work like that?
Does it merge the iternal and now external partition together as one therefore not needing to move any apps/reinstall apps?
zoltrix said:
Cool
Also, should i uninstall my apps and reinstall them so they get moved to teh SD? or does it not work like that?
Does it merge the iternal and now external partition together as one therefore not needing to move any apps/reinstall apps?
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No don't move to SD as you might get data loss. Internal/Telephone Memory now IS the SD (Ext)
elburna said:
No don't move to SD as you might get data loss. Internal/Telephone Memory now IS the SD (Ext)
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no internal memory is not now the SD-Ext, all apps2sd+ does is create a symlink between /data/app/, the dalvik cache and the newly created /system/sd/app/ and /system/sd/dalvik cache (a.k.a) the Ext partiton, all application data and device data is still stored in /data/data/ taking up device space ..... but your right to say you dont have to move any apps ect
So right now i got internal memory (118mb or so?) + my now 1GB partition.
so i got 1118MB or so . cool
I dont think that you can fill up 1GB before the internal memory is full...
Isn't that the point though? the ext partition is additional space, so you no longer need to worry about the internal memory
Yes but as said a part of each app will still go to the phone. So internal *might* be full before EXT.
Ahh, makes sense. Now i know why installing the 10+mb skype app put 3mb on my phone
thanks
1 GB is probably too much. 512mb is the recommended size.
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1 GB is probably too much. 512mb is the recommended size.
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Is it bad? or it jus wont get used?
Hi all "I am new at this stuff so apologies for my ignorance in the following explanation"
I have a rooted desire phone with a 4GB class 4 SD card and clockwork recovery
The internal free phone storge was 51.2MB, and I decided to partitioned my SD card in order to free more space for the app. "which is 90% of them are on the SD card" and for using some custum room "I actually dont konw the use of partitionning in custum room" but that what I read
So, I partitioned my SD card using Rom Manager with 512mb ext and zero swap with no errors, after that I put all the app. back to the SD card with no problem and all app. run smoothly from the SD card
I checked the internal phone storge using "DiskUsage" and it was as follows
Data 147.6MB
Application 35.4 MB "some of this app. can not move to the SD card & the other I wanted on the internal memory like Astro"
System data : 61.0MB
Free space 51.2MB "which is the same as befor partitioned as well as all the above sizes "
And the SD card total space was 3.21 GB which mean that the 512 MB suppose to be ext. partion right now
The Qustion is where is the 512 MB that suppose to be ext. partion ? Should this partitionning prosses free the internal memory of the phone ? and what is the use of partitionning in custum room ?
It is kind of weird at first when your new to it all. Took me a few weeks to get use to it and understand how it roughly works.
When you partition your SD card so you have an ext partition, it won't actually show up as internal memory. The internal memory is being read off of the /data partition. To make it simple, the ext partition acts like it's "hidden" so to speak. To get it working you would need an A2SD script at least. Depending on what rom you have, the script could be an addon, where you have to flash it after the rom, or it would be built in so it's just up and running anyway.
You can check to see if the ext partition is working. Apps can see if it's working, just search around in the market. To get the apps onto the ext partition, you would probably have to move them, but don't use the moving feature in Settings > Manage applications.
Thanks for your reply
I actually didnt flashed any custom rom yet "I am planning to" and I am running the stock rom froyo 2.2 which have the move 2 SD card feature, and the only app. that I had in this matter is "Move 2SD Enabler" which with It I moved almost all the application that I want to the SD card "some app I cant like the maps"
But even after the moving of all app. the internal phone memory is the same
I mean I cant feel any deference after the partitionning
So How can I use this 512MB ext partition or when ?
and also are these free space on the internal phone healthy ? or may I suffer a space problem when I tried to flash a rom? and what kind of ext does the rom manager do ext.2 or 3 or 4 ? and does it matter when flashing a rom ?
Sorry for the dozen of questions
With most roms it comes with A2SD (there are other deviations of it but the same principle). This is a script which tells the rom to install apps to the ext partition on your SD card instead of the internal memory. Thus, you get more app storage.
When you have A2SD, only the apps get put on the ext partition. Other things like the data for the apps and the dalvik cache stay on the internal memory and will (eventually) fill up the internal memory. That's where d2ext for example comes in. (You can read about all this stuff in your own spare time).
Recovery/rom manager uses ext3 but you can upgrade it to ext4.
So, I got my device s-off and rooted, was pretty excited when I had those stuff done.
But now,
Internal memory is still an issue, I read on xda like, removing the bundled or stock software comes with the phone won't make the internal memory get increased because those files are stored somewhere else that won't effect the total usable internal memory. Plus removing stock apps will stop using OTA updates.
So is there a trick that I can increase the internal memory of my phone? I already use the default save location setted to sd card, and moving apps to sd but it always leaves some files at internal memory.
I read somewhere like, I can make phone use my sd card's some part as internal memory, I saw a rom offering that but except that is there any program offering this without flashing rom?
And I have some knowledge about Linux, so I was wondering do I have a chance to use symlink command (symbolic link) to link my internal memory to sd card ?
Best way is to use a ROM with Darktremor Apps2SD preinstalled. I don't know whether it will work if you install it now.
The best alternative, in my opinion, is to format a partition of your SD card to ext3 with this guide and then use Link2SD.The partition can be as big as you want, but I believe that 500 MB should be enough.
It will earn you some space but not as much as the Darktremor Apps2SD will.
Thanks for the answer, I used the guide and Link2SD, but i am a bit confused here, I also use apps 2 sd program,
So for using less possible internal memory of my phone,
Should I install apps to phone memory and then link to sd card with link2sd
or
Install app in sd card (or move it with link2sd to sd card) then link?
Right now one of apps shown as Linked -> SD card. So is this the best scenario?
Because when I choose move to SD in Apps 2 SD, Link2SD says move to SD also, so it kinda like they conflict
To tell you the truth I'm not completely sure for what is better, but what I did was to first link all of them (application, dalvik & library if possible) and then move them to sd card with App2SD. I think there was a slight difference to the free space but nothing noticeable. Sorry, but I'm no expert, so everything I did was by trial and error!
Well, the last time I installed Link2SD, it all went well - I partitioned, and got it set up working. Then I disabled it because I didn't really need it. Now after a few CM7 updates, I've found that I want to use Link2SD again.
So I partitioned my SD card again - 7GB FAT32 for normal storage, 456MB EXT4 for Link2SD.
I set up Link2SD and it created the mount script, I rebooted and found that if I looked at my internal memory size, it's still 150MB. Last time I used Link2SD the partition of my SD card was added onto my internal storage. I can still link apps to the SD partition, but my internal memory still comes up as 150MB, which makes me unable to install any more apps because it thinks it's full.
What have I done wrong? I'm using the latest CM7 build with a class 4 8GB SD card.
Link2SD doesn't adding your external storage to internal, it's just transfer everything you want to external storage. Your phone will say that you have 150 internal memory which is true but the catch is your free space there - if you set your link2SD options like they should be free space shouldn't change almost at all.
My guess is that you had data2SD with you previous ROM you used, that one do just that what you mentioned - add external space to internal (teoreticaly).
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Link2SD doesn't adding your external storage to internal, it's just transfer everything you want to external storage. Your phone will say that you have 150 internal memory which is true but the catch is your free space there - if you set your link2SD options like they should be free space shouldn't change almost at all.
My guess is that you had data2SD with you previous ROM you used, that one do just that what you mentioned - add external space to internal (teoreticaly).
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I see, looks like I got the two confused then. Thanks for clearing that up for me
I cant really see the point of Link2SD then, since the phone thinks its installed on the internal memory when its installed on the SD partition. Android thinks the internal memory is full and doesn't allow you to install any more apps...
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dudeman1996 said:
I see, looks like I got the two confused then. Thanks for clearing that up for me
I cant really see the point of Link2SD then, since the phone thinks its installed on the internal memory when its installed on the SD partition. Android thinks the internal memory is full and doesn't allow you to install any more apps...
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Hmm it shouldn't be like that at all, something is wrong with you link2SD setup there...
Try this, open link2SD, hit Multi-select and choose Select all. Then hit Actions and choose Create link. That should transfer all apps that could be transferable to external storage (application files, dalvik-cache files and library files) and check your free internal space then (changes maybe not be visible immediatly, do one reebot just for case)
And i guess that you, before that, choosed right file type of your internal storage in link2SD (ext4 in this case). You can see external partition in link2sd's storage info, right?
kobredabre said:
Hmm it shouldn't be like that at all, something is wrong with you link2SD setup there...
Try this, open link2SD, hit Multi-select and choose Select all. Then hit Actions and choose Create link. That should transfer all apps that could be transferable to external storage (application files, dalvik-cache files and library files) and check your free internal space then (changes maybe not be visible immediatly, do one reebot just for case)
And i guess that you, before that, choosed right file type of your internal storage in link2SD (ext4 in this case). You can see external partition in link2sd's storage info, right?
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Yeah EXT4 is fine, it all shows up. Thanks for you help, I'm just gonna go with Data2SD
Newb question, why format the sd card with ext2 or ext3 if the rom is still being put on the phone?
If you are partitioned, the speed will be vastly improved and your space will double. Every time you install an app, it goes to external storage instead of internal storage, thus giving you more space. It also keeps the program. From closing every time you exit. For example, if you close a game with the app on internal, it exits and closes the app from memory leaving any non-saved progress gone. When on external, it caches the progress leaving the game running while using the phone for other purposes.
So in the end, the partition is better than no partition. :thumbup:
gbdavidx said:
Newb question, why format the sd card with ext2 or ext3 if the rom is still being put on the phone?
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The benefit of partitioning your sd card is it saves alot of internel space on your phone and using a htc evo,you will benefit tremendously,because the OG has very little memory to begin with,by this i mean it will move all of the apps/cache/delvik/temp files to your sd card,hence the sd ext.Alot of the OSes 3.5 sense/ICS/JB arent meant for the OG,they just take up way too much memory,so partitioning is the best thing to happen to the evo and all of the latest recoveries and roms are being built to be compatible with ext 4 and swap,with partitioning and a2sd combined,it gives you the needed internal memory for those memory hogs they call android operating systems,lol.