S Pen Only Works If You Hold It Upright - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II

Just sharing my thoughts, but I'm annoyed with the S Pen. The Note doesn't recognize it's being pressed by the S Pen when you hold the pen at an angle so that you can see the screen without your hand and the pen blocking it. This applies to writing or clicking on something. You have to hold the pen almost upright in order for the Note to recognize it. Airview works at any angle.

I don't know if mine was just stiff, but it was like that at first too. After a few days it works at an angle just fine. It only registers a press if you press in the tip of the S-Pen. It will actually register a press if you press in the tip while hovering over the screen. I guess the screen doesn't feel the tip, which makes sense seeing it doesn't work on other phones. Once I figured out the tip had to press in, I had much better success with it. But, as I said, it seems to press in easier and work better after a few days.
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Working at an angle here. Just wrote out this post just to see. lol
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quarlow said:
I don't know if mine was just stiff, but it was like that at first too. After a few days it works at an angle just fine. It only registers a press if you press in the tip of the S-Pen. It will actually register a press if you press in the tip while hovering over the screen. I guess the screen doesn't feel the tip, which makes sense seeing it doesn't work on other phones. Once I figured out the tip had to press in, I had much better success with it. But, as I said, it seems to press in easier and work better after a few days.
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That's correct; it works at an angle if you firmly press until the tip sinks. The problem is you have to press hard to get the tip to sink. Hard is relative, but it basically takes more physical effort to write than normal, which takes a lot away from the experience. It makes you annoyed rather than feeling relaxed.

P1 Wookie said:
Working at an angle here. Just wrote out this post just to see.
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I'm probably writing at a lower angle than you. Anything under, say, 45 degrees and you have to give it a good push to get the tip to sink.

works fine here at an Angle
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a_ok2me said:
I'm probably writing at a lower angle than you. Anything under, say, 45 degrees and you have to give it a good push to get the tip to sink.
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Could be at that point it's the pen itself and not the white tip touching the screen?
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P1 Wookie said:
Could be at that point it's the pen itself and not the white tip touching the screen?
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I agree. It works fine for me at any angle, with no more effort than when at 90 degrees to the screen. But, at about 45 degrees I start pressing the screen with the part that isn't the tip.
I did notice it was harder to use at first. How long have you had it? It took a few days of use for mine to loosen up.
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P1 Wookie said:
Could be at that point it's the pen itself and not the white tip touching the screen?
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It's definitely the tip. The tip has to sink in order for it to work. At vertical 90 degrees, it sinks. At 45 degrees, it sinks. 30 degrees, I really have to give it a push for the tip to sink. Now to think of it, I like to old Note pen better. It has a cushioned feel to it. It doesn't feel and sound like plastic on glass.

quarlow said:
I agree. It works fine for me at any angle, with no more effort than when at 90 degrees to the screen. But, at about 45 degrees I start pressing the screen with the part that isn't the tip.
I did notice it was harder to use at first. How long have you had it? It took a few days of use for mine to loosen up.
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A week. Been working the same since day one. And from what I can tell, at 30 degrees, you probably have to push so hard because it contacts with the pen first. At least that's what I notice holding it at that angle when I look closely. Even the circle is on the screen like I'm hovering. Idk, I just know mine works fine for me.
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P1 Wookie said:
A week. Been working the same since day one. And from what I can tell, at 30 degrees, you probably have to push so hard because it contacts with the pen first. At least that's what I notice holding it at that angle when I look closely. Even the circle is on the screen like I'm hovering. Idk, I just know mine works fine for me.
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Sorry, I meant how long has the OP had the device.
Mine does the air view too at any angle, even flat on the screen.
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quarlow said:
Sorry, I meant how long has the OP had the device.
Mine does the air view too at any angle, even flat on the screen.
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This is my second one that I've had for a week. My first one I got on opening day, which was the same. I don't use the pen much. Air view works for me at any angle also. The problem is when you write and try to click on something.

mine works at any angle
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I read somewhere that you should bang the tip onto a hard surface to soften it up. I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS ACTION! I have not had a problem with mine at all, however if you feel yours is unresponsive carefully apply pressure to it against a hard surface such as a mirror. NOT YOUR SCREEN.
Good luck

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S pen randomly clicking stuff

Is anyone else having problems with their s pen? It's weird it will actually click on whatever I'm hovering over when I'm at the exact height when u would see the cursor appear from hover view. Had the phones for 2 days with no problems I don't know what happened
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al52025 said:
Is anyone else having problems with their s pen? It's weird it will actually click on whatever I'm hovering over when I'm at the exact height when u would see the cursor appear from hover view. Had the phones for 2 days with no problems I don't know what happened
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does this happen every time or just occasionally?
DisplacedMic said:
does this happen every time or just occasionally?
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its random but its only exactly when u get to the point when the cursor would appear from hover view. but really annoying when trying to scroll thru a long list and when u swipe and move the pen up it jumps to somewhere else on the list, or something else is clicked just moving the s pen to the screen to use it. im ordering another s pen from samsung. hopefully thats the problem and i prey not the screen. im wondering if i tapped on the spen to hard or pressed to hard when drawing and messed it up
al52025 said:
Is anyone else having problems with their s pen? It's weird it will actually click on whatever I'm hovering over when I'm at the exact height when u would see the cursor appear from hover view. Had the phones for 2 days with no problems I don't know what happened
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Pop the button cover off on the S Pen and twist the left potentiometer slightly clockwise. It adjusts the sensitivity of the pen and will fix this problem. I had the same issue and fixed it this way.
zerin said:
Pop the button cover off on the S Pen and twist the left potentiometer slightly clockwise. It adjusts the sensitivity of the pen and will fix this problem. I had the same issue and fixed it this way.
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holy crap it worked! i turned it about an 8th turn very small amount. tried for a couple minutes and its not clicking anything. thanks alot! now if only i was patient enough and didnt order a new pen from samsung about an hour ago. at least amazon is paying for it. thanks again
zerin said:
Pop the button cover off on the S Pen and twist the left potentiometer slightly clockwise. It adjusts the sensitivity of the pen and will fix this problem. I had the same issue and fixed it this way.
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I'm getting this problem.
What do you mean by button cover?
The button looks joined to the pen by solid plastic.
Xaddict said:
I'm getting this problem.
What do you mean by button cover?
The button looks joined to the pen by solid plastic.
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It pops off easily. I used a razor blade and u have to use a tiny flat head to turn the the screw
al52025 said:
It pops off easily. I used a razor blade and u have to use a tiny flat head to turn the the screw
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Got it.
Thanks.
It worked.
OP should refer to this thread b4 open new thread..its the same issue..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925212
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Working that potentiometer did the trick for me too. You guys are great!
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It worked for me
I was so happy I made a video on how to do it!
It works like a charm. Cheers !:good:

S pen sensitivity...

Hey guys I just got my note 2 today and have been messing around with the S pen. Does anyone else notice that when pressing buttons on the screen to open apps or things in apps etc that it is not always responsive unless you hit it at the perfect angle? Also when I write normally i kind of write more at a sideways angle towards the screen but it seems to not register very well like this so I have to write more vertical towards the screen. Is there any way to fix these issues or is that just how it is at this time? Also i feel like if I write too lightly it doesn't register very well when writing. Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity or am I the only one who thinks this? Lastly, if i touch the screen with my palm it makes a mark in s note i thought it was not supposed to do this or let your finger write when the s pen is out. How do I set this?
jakebake said:
Hey guys I just got my note 2 today and have been messing around with the S pen. Does anyone else notice that when pressing buttons on the screen to open apps or things in apps etc that it is not always responsive unless you hit it at the perfect angle? Also when I write normally i kind of write more at a sideways angle towards the screen but it seems to not register very well like this so I have to write more vertical towards the screen. Is there any way to fix these issues or is that just how it is at this time? Also i feel like if I write too lightly it doesn't register very well when writing. Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity or am I the only one who thinks this? Lastly, if i touch the screen with my palm it makes a mark in s note i thought it was not supposed to do this or let your finger write when the s pen is out. How do I set this?
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I have a similar issue where i seem to have to press hard to get a reaction, especially the app drawer icon.
I notice you have to hit dead on which makes sense. This isn't a pencil or pen where you can write slanted and the ink still touch the paper or what not. But rather the "ball" of the s pen is where your main contact should be. Takes getting used to but what doesn't? Pen works great once you learn how it works
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I had to exchange my S-pen 3 times due to sensitivity issue! One of them was way too sensitivity, I wasn't even touching the screen and I could write on S-note... Store manager thought that was part of the Note 2's new feature... lol
Even after the exchange of S-pen I was still having little issues with it, and I ran across a thread about slamming the S-pen on the ground. I know it sounds bizarre but it actually worked! I didn't believe it at first but now my s-pen works flawless... so weird. :silly:
zen0s said:
I had to exchange my S-pen 3 times due to sensitivity issue! One of them was way too sensitivity, I wasn't even touching the screen and I could write on S-note... Store manager thought that was part of the Note 2's new feature... lol
Even after the exchange of S-pen I was still having little issues with it, and I ran across a thread about slamming the S-pen on the ground. I know it sounds bizarre but it actually worked! I didn't believe it at first but now my s-pen works flawless... so weird. :silly:
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lol like throwing it or just slamming it? and yeah i figured it would just take getting used to I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just my pen. So is there really no settings to change for it though??
Also funny question... does it matter which way it is held? Like when I was first holding it you would press the button with your thumb however you could also hold it so you would press it with your index finger. Does it matter? Is it made to work better one way?
bipoler said:
I notice you have to hit dead on which makes sense. This isn't a pencil or pen where you can write slanted and the ink still touch the paper or what not. But rather the "ball" of the s pen is where your main contact should be. Takes getting used to but what doesn't? Pen works great once you learn how it works
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Take a closer look at the tip of the S-pen. It's actually slightly spring loaded! I discovered this from an early review video I watched before I purchased mine. I believe that the tip has to be pressed hard enough to slightly retract in order to produce a mark. Writing with the pen at an angle may not be doing that.
Doug
Mom said don't smack
But I just tried it and the pen is working 95% better. I don't know if it will stay this way but it's working pretty well (for now at least).
stupid but it works for me.
jakebake said:
Hey guys I just got my note 2 today and have been messing around with the S pen. Does anyone else notice that when pressing buttons on the screen to open apps or things in apps etc that it is not always responsive unless you hit it at the perfect angle? Also when I write normally i kind of write more at a sideways angle towards the screen but it seems to not register very well like this so I have to write more vertical towards the screen. Is there any way to fix these issues or is that just how it is at this time? Also i feel like if I write too lightly it doesn't register very well when writing. Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity or am I the only one who thinks this? Lastly, if i touch the screen with my palm it makes a mark in s note i thought it was not supposed to do this or let your finger write when the s pen is out. How do I set this?
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Hey I have the same problem with you but I have solved it in a stupid but effective way. I open the back case and press it, that's it the pen sensitivity back to normal.... lol try it easy and effective....
The S pen can be too sensitive, so you have to adjust its potentiometer. Yes, you heard that right.Just pop the button cover off by simply using a razor blade or something really thin, the cover should pop immediately. Then, you have to use a small flat head screwdriver and turn the screw clockwise. This will adjust the S Pen sensitivity. If you want to make it more sensible, then you have to screw counterclockwise. You should adjust it until it no longer has a problem. This fix has worked for a lot of people, so it should work as a general fix. If you still have problems with the S pen, then you should get in touch with the dealer that gave the phone to you and get the S pen switched because it is faulty.
Vaderg82 said:
The S pen can be too sensitive, so you have to adjust its potentiometer. Yes, you heard that right.Just pop the button cover off by simply using a razor blade or something really thin, the cover should pop immediately. Then, you have to use a small flat head screwdriver and turn the screw clockwise. This will adjust the S Pen sensitivity. If you want to make it more sensible, then you have to screw counterclockwise. You should adjust it until it no longer has a problem. This fix has worked for a lot of people, so it should work as a general fix. If you still have problems with the S pen, then you should get in touch with the dealer that gave the phone to you and get the S pen switched because it is faulty.
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Wish I had known this a last week before I broke my last S Pen. lol Worked great and I even adjusted my full size S Pen as well! Kudos!

S Pen - Is this normal?

I noticed today that my S Pen does not actually mark where I touch the screen. This is not that significant in portrait but it marks and points a very noticeably 3 mm above where my pen is actually pointed. Is this normal or is my S Pen/ Note defective?
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If you are a lefty make sure you go to the S-pen settings and set it for left handed use
Lefaid said:
I noticed today that my S Pen does not actually mark where I touch the screen. This is not that significant in portrait but it marks and points a very noticeably 3 mm above where my pen is actually pointed. Is this normal or is my S Pen/ Note defective?
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I hoping you find a solution thats exactly why I moved from the Note 1 to the SG3 since it was driving me nuts. I had been told the Note 2 does not have the issue so I was going to get my Note 2 later this week.
If you notice, hover the pen above the screen and push the spen inwards with your finger it writes without even touching the screen.
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I must say that if that was the case I would go to AT&T and demand they fix it or give me a new one! (Same thing if it wrote before I touched the screen!!) I just tested both of these things and it marks exactly where I place the pen, and does not do so until I am actually touching the screen! (very lightly!) I paid way too much (even though it was only 199 that is still a lot 4 me!) for it not to work exactly as I want it!
Brava27 said:
If you notice, hover the pen above the screen and push the spen inwards with your finger it writes without even touching the screen.
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Ya. I noticed that a few days ago. Cool stuff
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I think it may have been in an app I was using, because it does not go into landscape. It is still not exact but I think that is just the way it works for human error. It works as far as I am concerned. I will test more before running to ATT
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Spen fix
To fix the hovering issue u can pop off the spen button with an exact blade or a box cutter blade. You will see two pentiometers. Having the top point to the left, use a fine flathead screwdriver and turn it clockwise an 1/8th of a turn each time or to ur liking. The left pentameter is for sensitivity of the spen. And the right one decreases the distance and sensitivity of the pen of it hovering above the screen causing it to write automatically. There are posts on this matter however I can't find the link anymore. Just Google it. "how to decrease sensitivity of spen for note 2.". I did this to my brothers and my own spen already and all is well. Note the button when prying out WILL fly out so watch your eye and do this in a well lit and clean Area. To put the button back on, just insert the side closest to the tip of the spen first then click in the back side. Hope this helps us guys.

Stylus rattle normal?

Is the tip of the stylus supposed to rattle when pressed on the screen. It's a little annoying for me, but havn't made it back to a Sprint store to check it out. Thanks...
kronium said:
Is the tip of the stylus supposed to rattle when pressed on the screen. It's a little annoying for me, but havn't made it back to a Sprint store to check it out. Thanks...
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Working as intended. It's designed to have a little flex, not solid like your typical "dumb" stylus.
Yes the S pen has many different pressure points so the tip of the stylus is a little bit loose. Don't bother taking it back to Sprint. There's absolutely nothing they can do. Every unit will rattle a bit.
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Spen can't come out, it's stuck

Hi all,
Has anyone such a problem - when push on spen it clicks and then pops out a bit but you can't get it out? It's stuck. Does anyone has some suggestions? I can't pull it out at all...
Put some force on it using your finger nails and try to break it free... otherwise disassembling the phone is the other option.
Lol, or break the end off and drill it out.
The new improved Ronco Spen Extractor... it slices, it dices.
You could try some semtex [emoji23][emoji1787][emoji28]
But sorry I have no idea I've not heard of this before.
Has it just stopped coming out? or has it had some damage? Could it be heat OR cold related?. Paul
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baylakedrive said:
You could try some semtex [emoji23][emoji1787][emoji28]
But sorry I have no idea I've not heard of this before.
Has it just stopped coming out? or has it had some damage? Could it be heat OR cold related?. Paul
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That's a thought... try letting the case get warm (not too warm or cold) or put it in the freezer for a few minutes.
Tough wuv with either cure it or break it...
Do Not use any kind of lubricant or solvent.
I take it you can press the little bit on the end of the pen and that comes out and then its stuck from then on or can you not even press the end bit out? Paul
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I noticed on my note 20 already I've had to wipe my pen with alcohol my daily oils and dirt make it feel gritty sometimes
baylakedrive said:
You could try some semtex [emoji23][emoji1787][emoji28]
But sorry I have no idea I've not heard of this before.
Has it just stopped coming out? or has it had some damage? Could it be heat OR cold related?. Paul
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TheMadScientist said:
I noticed on my note 20 already I've had to wipe my pen with alcohol my daily oils and dirt make it feel gritty sometimes
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Alcohol can craze many plastics... not a good plan.
Lol, I've had isopropyl literally disintegrate a butane lighter in under a minute, leaking butane like a sieve.
If you put a tempered glass screen protector on it could be the adhesive has gotten inside with the S-pen and then cured.
Depending on what the adhesive is (if that is the problem) depends on how you might be able to extract it...
777Nalsur777 said:
Hi all,
Has anyone such a problem - when push on spen it clicks and then pops out a bit but you can't get it out? It's stuck. Does anyone has some suggestions? I can't pull it out at all...
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Have you checked YouTube?
There's several videos on how to get the pen to come out.
The simplest method I found was the 1st result of googling "How to remove a stuck S-Pen".
Most other videos are variations on the same method/principle.
Hi to all. I have tried a lot of methods and non of them works. As I was saying I just can push on it and spen end pops out to be released and when I'm trying to pull it it is stay there like a rock. Before a while I was not be able to even push on it, I thought maybe some sand get inside from a beach, and yes, I was right. When I clean it with some type of medicine alcohol (with blowing it out of course) it became clickable again. So I suppose maybe this button doesn't send a signal to the phone anymore to release spen?
I have a thought...
Can I try to place a different spen near the phone, connect it with my phone and push a top button on a new spen, would it release my old spen from my phone?
Or, maybe, there is somewhere application to manually force this deamn motor
to release the stylus? I've found only app that saying was the spen top button pushed or not. That's how I figure out that this part could be broken. I hope it is because I would rather replace my spen than open my phone.
The top button on the spen does nothing except provide an easy way to pull it out.
blackhawk said:
The top button on the spen does nothing except provide an easy way to pull it out.
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Could you please explain how it works when you try to get it out?
777Nalsur777 said:
Could you please explain how it works when you try to get it out?
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It's simply to help grasp it. It's not a lock.
When you reinsert it at about the .6 inch mark you start to feel slight uniform resistance.
Oddly at last .1 inch it seems to pull it in; I believe it's magnetic! Interesting critter.
Behaves the same if button is in or out.
Confirmed, there's a magnet in the last half inch of the spen. That's what holds it in place.
That's why it will pop out if you drop it hard enough.
There are no other mechanical mechanisms holding in place... normally.
blackhawk said:
It's simply to help grasp it. It's not a lock.
When you reinsert it at about the .6 inch mark you start to feel slight uniform resistance.
Oddly at last .1 inch it seems to pull it in; I believe it's magnetic! Interesting critter.
Behaves the same if button is in or out.
Confirmed, there's a magnet in the last half inch of the spen. That's what holds it in place.
That's why it will pop out if you drop it hard enough.
There are no other mechanical mechanisms holding in place... normally.
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Understood. Thanks. But that is strange why it is stuck.
777Nalsur777 said:
Understood. Thanks. But that is strange why it is stuck.
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Something is physically preventing it from moving.
Contamination of some kind... you can try to force it out.
If that fails it's repair shop time.
Look at a breakdown video for this phone, it will give you some clues how hard or easily a repair shop can fix it. I don't recommend taking it apart yourself, these phones are bears to disassemble.
777Nalsur777 said:
Hi to all. I have tried a lot of methods and non of them works. As I was saying I just can push on it and spen end pops out to be released and when I'm trying to pull it it is stay there like a rock. Before a while I was not be able to even push on it, I thought maybe some sand get inside from a beach, and yes, I was right. When I clean it with some type of medicine alcohol (with blowing it out of course) it became clickable again. So I suppose maybe this button doesn't send a signal to the phone anymore to release spen?
I have a thought...
Can I try to place a different spen near the phone, connect it with my phone and push a top button on a new spen, would it release my old spen from my phone?
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The pen is held on by friction only. The button on the end is nothing more than a way to pull it out using your fingers. It does not lock it in.
Pairing another pen will do nothing.
You're going to have to use more force to pull it out. Otherwise, either take it to a Samsung store, or send it in to get it removed.
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gernerttl said:
The pen is held on by friction only. The button on the end is nothing more than a way to pull it out using your fingers. It does not lock it in.
Pairing another pen will do nothing.
You're going to have to use more force to pull it out. Otherwise, either take it to a Samsung store, or send it in to get it removed.
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Actually it's held in place by a magnet; the end of the spen is magnetic.
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Actually it's held in place by a magnet; the end of the spen is magnetic.
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Actually, no it is NOT. IT is held in by FRICTION. Every S Pen in EVERY Note device is that way.
Something has gotten on the OPs S Pen or has gotten in the phone which is causing it to stick.
gernerttl said:
The pen is held on by friction only. The button on the end is nothing more than a way to pull it out using your fingers. It does not lock it in.
Pairing another pen will do nothing.
You're going to have to use more force to pull it out. Otherwise, either take it to a Samsung store, or send it in to get it removed.
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Hi, you were right. I've got it out. Thank you all. There was a lot of very small sand like dust inside.
I've used a medical oil based medicine to fill a hole with Spen first of all - thought that there was even some super glue (that is how it was hard to pull it out and that medicine oil has some preferences that it could get weak super glue, but it was not the case), that oil helped me just to lubricate all the hole inside of the phone where Spen placed. Later I've attached a strong piece of yarn around the Spen button and tried to pull it out. After few attempts no result I was hopeless and tried to pull much harder even till it brakes. It went out then. Now top Spen button is a bit loose but it works!
Thank you guys for your suggestions and help one more time.
Now I will dry all inside and outside with a little of an alcohol to be on a safe side.

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