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Nandroid Restore Loses Root Write Permissions

Hello,
Noob here. I've run into this issue with my Nandroid restores where I suddenly lose write permissions. I can still read, but if I try to write anything to the root, I get a insufficient permissions error.
Using CWM 5.0.2.6
SuperSU v.0.87
Clean Stock ICS from KIES
Odin 1.85 Flash CWM
Backup
Root w/ SuperSU v.0.87
Success.
Spend hours upon hours making it perfect V1
Backup Perfect V1
Spend hours upon hours perfecting perfection...
Which leads to imperfection(Deleted necessary System File)
Restore Perfect V1
Write access lost.
Is there a way I can regain the root somehow without a clean install?
Thank you in Advance.

I believe this is a known issue when restoring nandroid back ups. Your only recourse is to reflash the rom and start over.
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bfsam said:
Hello,
Noob here. I've run into this issue with my Nandroid restores where I suddenly lose write permissions. I can still read, but if I try to write anything to the root, I get a insufficient permissions error.
Using CWM 5.0.2.6
SuperSU v.0.87
Clean Stock ICS from KIES
Odin 1.85 Flash CWM
Backup
Root w/ SuperSU v.0.87
Success.
Spend hours upon hours making it perfect V1
Backup Perfect V1
Spend hours upon hours perfecting perfection...
Which leads to imperfection(Deleted necessary System File)
Restore Perfect V1
Write access lost.
Is there a way I can regain the root somehow without a clean install?
Thank you in Advance.
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I just posted this yesterday...use touch recovery and it will work...i went through a lot trying to get this to work yesterday...i thought it was the device management doing it..so after i restored before booting i pulled my Sim and then booted phone froze dm then rebooted with Sim...but once you notice no rw it's to later and you have to start from the backup again...I've used both touch recoveries and they work fine...but cwm 2.6 and 2.7 don't work they also cause my phone to hang when turning off....but this will only work if the backup is right to begin with...
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GreggoryD502 said:
I believe this is a known issue when restoring nandroid back ups. Your only recourse is to reflash the rom and start over.
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AAAAHHHHHrrrrgggg...
Thank you Greggory. I least I know now.

bfsam said:
AAAAHHHHHrrrrgggg...
Thank you Greggory. I least I know now.
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Read my post from above i told you i restore just fine....^
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djtheraven said:
Read my post from above i told you i restore just fine....^
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There's hope after all. Thank you for the info. I'll give the touch recovery a try.

bfsam said:
There's hope after all. Thank you for the info. I'll give the touch recovery a try.
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Now remember that darkside stuff don't work with touch recovery...so i actually switch between them..i have a recovery switcher app...comes in handy...
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djtheraven said:
Read my post from above i told you i restore just fine....^
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SWEET! I flashed touch recovery over 2.6 and restored. So far, everything is perfect again. Many thanks!

bfsam said:
SWEET! I flashed touch recovery over 2.6 and restored. So far, everything is perfect again. Many thanks!
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No prob...
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djtheraven said:
Now remember that darkside stuff don't work with touch recovery...so i actually switch between them..i have a recovery switcher app...comes in handy...
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Mind sharing the app?
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Sorry if I gave you bad info. I was unaware you could switch to touch recovery and restore.
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GreggoryD502 said:
Sorry if I gave you bad info. I was unaware you could switch to touch recovery and restore.
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No worries. You were still correct about 2.6. I'm happy to have a solution.

djtheraven said:
I just posted this yesterday...use touch recovery and it will work...i went through a lot trying to get this to work yesterday...i thought it was the device management doing it..so after i restored before booting i pulled my Sim and then booted phone froze dm then rebooted with Sim...but once you notice no rw it's to later and you have to start from the backup again...I've used both touch recoveries and they work fine...but cwm 2.6 and 2.7 don't work they also cause my phone to hang when turning off....but this will only work if the backup is right to begin with...
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That method you mentioned fixed my issue. Super.

demonr6 said:
That method you mentioned fixed my issue. Super.
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Trust me it took a whole night to figure that out..lol
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djtheraven said:
Trust me it took a whole night to figure that out..lol
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Man, as much as I hate to say this but better you than me.

I would like to say thank you!! I was on 5.2.7 CWM, and I was having this issue, when I updated to 6.x.x and did a restore, I have all of my permissions back, THANK YOU!

Restoring back to nandroid.

I'm on cyanogenmod 10 beta 3 and wanted to go back to AOKP Milestone 6 but I'm having problems with superuser (and therefore cant use mobile odin) so I was wondering if I could just restore my nandroid back to EL26 via the JB recovery mode and then flash the aokp ROM through that recovery like normal? Or would that not work/brick my phone?
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Bump, really need some input on this. Any help is appreciated. thanks.
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Safe bet as I had the same issue: use sfhub one click to go back to el29 w root, then one click root to el26 cwm access and then you're good to go. Just make sure whatever road u take it leads you to el26 cwm by chris41g.
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dante32278 said:
Safe bet as I had the same issue: use sfhub one click to go back to el29 w root, then one click root to el26 cwm access and then you're good to go. Just make sure whatever road u take it leads you to el26 cwm by chris41g.
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I don't really have a PC at my disposal at the moment though is my biggest problem :/ which is why I was asking if restoring back to my nandroid back up via JB recovery would be safe?
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dante32278 said:
Safe bet as I had the same issue: use sfhub one click to go back to el29 w root, then one click root to el26 cwm access and then you're good to go. Just make sure whatever road u take it leads you to el26 cwm by chris41g.
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Hey, quick question.I'm just trying to do some reading about safety and such, and came across your post. Wouldn't it be safe to JUST Odin EL26 CWM alone? Without going back to EL29 first? Is that necessary? Again, not being a smartass and trying to call you out, I'm just really trying to get a hold on what is safe, or not, and procedures.

vinscuzzy said:
Hey, quick question.I'm just trying to do some reading about safety and such, and came across your post. Wouldn't it be safe to JUST Odin EL26 CWM alone? Without going back to EL29 first? Is that necessary? Again, not being a smartass and trying to call you out, I'm just really trying to get a hold on what is safe, or not, and procedures.
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That's exactly what you should do.
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Well the main issue is it seems he lost root access....just saying its safest to start fresh. Only takes 10 extra minutes. If he had root he would've been able to just mobile Odin el26 like he stated, but its not an option.
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dante32278 said:
Well the main issue is it seems he lost root access....just saying its safest to start fresh. Only takes 10 extra minutes. If he had root he would've been able to just mobile Odin el26 like he stated, but its not an option.
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Exactly. That's the problem I'm having, which is why I'm asking if (since i dont have a pc to use) It would be smart and safe to just restore my nandroid (which is el26 with root and cwm) from the JB recovery (cwm6) and then just flash my original ROM through el26 cwm.
Anyone think this is safe?
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organizedConfoosion said:
Exactly. That's the problem I'm having, which is why I'm asking if (since i dont have a pc to use) It would be smart and safe to just restore my nandroid (which is el26 with root and cwm) from the JB recovery (cwm6) and then just flash my original ROM through el26 cwm.
Anyone think this is safe?
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It sounds safe, both are quoted as being safe recoveries. I even restored a nand from a broken phone onto my replacement one yesterday so I'm sure what you're doing is far less risky. Its the wiping in non-safe recoveries that caused bricks, you should be OK as long as you don't do something stupid like pull the battery during the restore.
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dante32278 said:
It sounds safe, both are quoted as being safe recoveries. I even restored a nand from a broken phone onto my replacement one yesterday so I'm sure what you're doing is far less risky. Its the wiping in non-safe recoveries that caused bricks, you should be OK as long as you don't do something stupid like pull the battery during the restore.
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Someone else told me that even while restoring a nandroid backup, it still wipes data, so if you're on an unsafe kernel, it still can brick. Just so everyone knows, I was on a safe kernel when I bricked mine. Apparently there was a mis-merge that happened that caused the safe kernel to be unsafe for a few days. I was very unlucky, but its one of the risks we all take when doing this. I'm planning on odin-ing el26 kernel whenever I need recovery from here on out!

dante32278 said:
It sounds safe, both are quoted as being safe recoveries. I even restored a nand from a broken phone onto my replacement one yesterday so I'm sure what you're doing is far less risky. Its the wiping in non-safe recoveries that caused bricks, you should be OK as long as you don't do something stupid like pull the battery during the restore.
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vinscuzzy said:
Someone else told me that even while restoring a nandroid backup, it still wipes data, so if you're on an unsafe kernel, it still can brick. Just so everyone knows, I was on a safe kernel when I bricked mine. Apparently there was a mis-merge that happened that caused the safe kernel to be unsafe for a few days. I was very unlucky, but its one of the risks we all take when doing this. I'm planning on odin-ing el26 kernel whenever I need recovery from here on out!
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Thank you both for the replies. I guess I'll go ahead and try the nandroid restore.
Wish me luck haha. Hopefully this recovery is as stable as people have been saying lately.
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organizedConfoosion said:
Thank you both for the replies. I guess I'll go ahead and try the nandroid restore.
Wish me luck haha. Hopefully this recovery is as stable as people have been saying lately.
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Just thought of something: if you lost root, how do you still have a custom recovery? You may want to wait til ur near a PC to do el26 flash!
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No idea but I can boot into CWM just fine, its just superuser won't give me root access. I even tried to do the su binary update and nothing.
I'm not flashing El26, I'm just restoring to my nandroid backup which is el26.
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organizedConfoosion said:
No idea but I can boot into CWM just fine, its just superuser won't give me root access. I even tried to do the su binary update and nothing.
I'm not flashing El26, I'm just restoring to my nandroid backup which is el26.
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OK well good luck and let us know how it goes! Fingers crossed....
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I ended up not restoring, and found a way to fix my root access. Thanks all for the input though everyone!
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nandroid restore help

ok i install this recovery-RA-supersonic-v2.3.img working fine did a few nand back up but now when i go do a nandroid restore i get this error=something went wrong please check your recovery log how do i fix this so i can install my back up roms.?? thanks

Did you name your backups? That will corrupt them.
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death-by-soap said:
Did you name your backups? That will corrupt them.
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yes i did from original to BDS-STOCK-11-20-2012 is there a way to fix it.???

1iwilly said:
yes i did from original to BDS-STOCK-11-20-2012 is there a way to fix it.???
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Unfortunately no. At least not that I can recall. Sorry pal.
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death-by-soap said:
Unfortunately no. At least not that I can recall. Sorry pal.
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there has to be something wrong with recovery i just install a fresh rom then did a nand back up off it. left it the way it name it try to restore it and got the same error.????

1iwilly said:
there has to be something wrong with recovery i just install a fresh rom then did a nand back up off it. left it the way it name it try to restore it and got the same error.????
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Install smelkus recovery. Its much better anyway.
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death-by-soap said:
Install smelkus recovery. Its much better anyway.
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ok formating and changing ext-2 to 3 fix the problem thanks you guys for the help

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26278768
Each file is a themed version. They're all the same so pick what you like best.

cant backup

Whenever I try to make a backup through cwm its stops after about a minute and says canot gind a backup handler.
Any idea what that is? Im on jedi v2. But its the same with any other rom I flash

mryounghc said:
Whenever I try to make a backup through cwm its stops after about a minute and says canot gind a backup handler.
Any idea what that is? Im on jedi v2. But its the same with any other rom I flash
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Backups were glitchy for me on cwm. I switched to TWRP and there's no looking back for me.

Im going to try twrp and see how it works. Thanks

I'm on cwm and backups have been fine. Why don't you redownload cwm and make sure you rwflash your appropriate recovery. I've NEVER had problems with cwm unless I messed with the folder or something.
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Another vote to just switch to twrp. It is superior in every way.

Idyar said:
Another vote to just switch to twrp. It is superior in every way.
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Nothing against twrp but what's the point of troubleshooting if you're not going g to troubleshoot? If someone really likes a particular recovery why not help them get it working instead of making the decision for them?
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monkeypaws said:
I'm on cwm and backups have been fine. Why don't you redownload cwm and make sure you rwflash your appropriate recovery. I've NEVER had problems with cwm unless I messed with the folder or something.
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i think this is what happened. actually i am pretty sure that is what i did when i was messing around with some files.
im going to try to find cwm again and reflash
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Nothing against twrp but what's the point of troubleshooting if you're not going g to troubleshoot? If someone really likes a particular recovery why not help them get it working instead of making the decision for them?
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yea, twrp works but i do prefer cwm as i have never had an issue with it since i got the vibrant.
thanks guys

To add another option; did you make your backup to .tar format? That was my issue when I first rooted my phone, couldn't restore anything, kinda panicked...
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[Q] Possibilty of a .zip file to restore phones?

I was just wondering if it was possible to make a .zip file to restore our phones to Factory fresh-ish?
Heres my thinking: If we did a Factory Reset from the phone that wipes everything, sd included, then boot into CWM or TWRP Recovery because it would still be there, I believe, wipe everything in Recovery, then install the .zip? The .zip would have Root, CWM or TWRP Recovery and all the stock files.
Question is...Would this allow us to not have to use LGNPST? Or would there still be files stuck that would make us use LGNPST?[/SIZE]
Hope that all makes sense.

engine95 said:
I was just wondering if it was possible to make a .zip file to restore our phones to Factory fresh-ish?
Heres my thinking: If we did a Factory Reset from the phone that wipes everything, sd included, then boot into CWM or TWRP Recovery because it would still be there, I believe, wipe everything in Recovery, then install the .zip? The .zip would have Root, CWM or TWRP Recovery and all the stock files.
Question is...Would this allow us to not have to use LGNPST? Or would there still be files stuck that would make us use LGNPST?[/SIZE]
Hope that all makes sense.
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That would be nice. But I can't imagine it to be more useful that lgnpst. Think of it like Odin for the Samsung phones.

True. But Odin is simple and easy to get. Im just trying to think of an easier way to fix our phones when we mess em up.
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engine95 said:
True. But Odin is simple and easy to get. Im just trying to think of an easier way to fix our phones when we mess em up.
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Simpler way will definitely be appreciated lol

Its being worked on. Only one bug bug atm, check back tomorrow.
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Its now available under development
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evodev said:
Its now available under development
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Awesome thanks!

Its not quite what i mean. But this will do. I guess i can't quite put it into words.
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engine95 said:
Its not quite what i mean. But this will do. I guess i can't quite put it into words.
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Under recovery just wipe system/cache and dalvik cache.
All was wiped but the sd card part. was still there. Was that what you meant?

My idea or thought in the OP was to make something as available as Odin that could fix borked phones. LGNPST isn't as readily available. I think the stock v8 .zip is as close as we can get. It was a thought.
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But, arent ZIPs useless if the phone is really bricked and cant even boot into recovery? Isnt that the advantage LGNPST has?

Unless it was an update.zip like factory recovery. I don't think what im thinking can be done.
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