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Sprint's LTE to pull even faster speeds than VZW's network.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432756

Keep in mind that that is with a completely unloaded tower...
Sprint only has 10 mhz of spare spectrum in the PCS band, so before Clearwire or Lightsquared (if it gets FCC approval) roll out LTE, or Sprint decommissions the iDEN network, everyone will be using this small slice of spectrum. That means that each cell will be limited to a maximum of 40-60 mbps for all users to share.
Verizon uses at least 20 mhz of spectrum in all of its LTE coverage areas, so I don't think it's likely that Sprint's LTE will be able to outperform VZW's in its first year.

I love the "(At Least For Now)" nonsense.
I think I'll unfollow "android police" now.
Never see anyone make these type of comments directed at At&t or Verizon.
The fact is, even at their absolute best, Verizon and At&t LTE speeds were not even this fast.
However, I couldn't care less about having these speeds on a phone.
Anything above 10mbps is 'nice sounding' but honestly useless.
Keep it unlimited.

I don't know about you guys, but speeds like that are completely unnecessary. The speeds I get on 4g now is more than enough for everything I need, I'd rather have unlimited internet which I can use without worry, rather than have to deal with overages and etc.
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JSarella said:
I don't know about you guys, but speeds like that are completely unnecessary. The speeds I get on 4g now is more than enough for everything I need, I'd rather have unlimited internet which I can use without worry, rather than have to deal with overages and etc.
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I AGREE...but the good thing is more bandwidth should mean less server/network traffic which is good for the end users and should mean faster overall speeds

mattykinsx said:
I love the "(At Least For Now)" nonsense.
I think I'll unfollow "android police" now.
Never see anyone make these type of comments directed at At&t or Verizon.
The fact is, even at their absolute best, Verizon and At&t LTE speeds were not even this fast.
However, I couldn't care less about having these speeds on a phone.
Anything above 10mbps is 'nice sounding' but honestly useless.
Keep it unlimited.
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Actually there are people that still get 40-50 mb download speeds on verizon even now WITH people on the network. Perhaps you should do a little more homework.

brownhornet said:
Actually there are people that still get 40-50 mb download speeds on verizon even now WITH people on the network. Perhaps you should do a little more homework.
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Lmfao.
Completely full of ****.
Never seen anyone talk about anywhere close to those speeds, even when LTE for Verizon was just released
http://www.phonearena.com/news/4G-s...e-holds-the-fort-in-smartphone-speeds_id17405

I ran a speedtest against a verizon customer inside Fry's electronics in Roseville, CA and the guy's phone hit 29mbps consistently. It doesnt sound TOO unrealistic to me.
Edit: I can't remember if he was using a thunderbolt or bionic at the time but regardless he destroyed me lol
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Didn't have all the WooHoo commentary, but did show 50mbps on Verizon LTE using Pantech USB modem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related

sfhub said:
Didn't have all the WooHoo commentary, but did show 50mbps on Verizon LTE using Pantech USB modem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related
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Dedicated modem versus a phone. Does show the potential versus the usual reality though. Kinda makes me hope I move to NC. Verizon LTE coverage in the middle of no where I should be getting all the bandwidth
I heard from a friend his RAZR was netting 20/15 at best which beats the hell out of the 1.4 upload im getting now which would be the only complaint. Seems like the average users upload is a bit slower around 2-5 but still an improvement.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432756
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Did you just link to a forum thread, in a new thread, when both threads are in the same forum?

DonutGrunt said:
Did you just link to a forum thread, in a new thread, when both threads are in the same forum?
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There was a thread on it already, so I edited the OP. I was hoping this thread would die. lol

Ok...apparently no one here has read about how sprint is going to use a multi-switching system on all they're towers. Which means, its going to free up a lot more spectrum and allow for much more capacity. On top of it, when sprint completely converts to lte network, even more spectrum is going to be available. That's why a lot of these carriers are going or have gone lte. (Long term evolution). Instead of sprint running at 1900mhz , they will run lte at 700mhz.
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androidmaster1 said:
Ok...apparently no one here has read about how sprint is going to use a multi-switching system on all they're towers. Which means, its going to free up a lot more spectrum and allow for much more capacity. On top of it, when sprint completely converts to lte network, even more spectrum is going to be available. That's why a lot of these carriers are going or have gone lte. (Long term evolution). Instead of sprint running at 1900mhz , they will run lte at 700mhz.
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Why would anyone read?
Its Sprint, everything they do is wrong and a lie.

I can survive with 4-5 Mbps. What I need is unlimited data with no throttling, including when I use wifi tether.

Jayavarman said:
I can survive with 4-5 Mbps. What I need is unlimited data with no throttling, including when I use wifi tether.
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+1
I have a thunderbolt, its data connection is extremely fast, but I use my phones consistently throughout the day, and this means that I hit the 2GB limit within 3 weeks.
This is just regular use, If I were to steam on spotify, or last.fm or anything else, I'd be screwed within a week or two.

RainMotorsports said:
Dedicated modem versus a phone. Does show the potential versus the usual reality though. Kinda makes me hope I move to NC. Verizon LTE coverage in the middle of no where I should be getting all the bandwidth
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The Sprint "test" was said to be dedicated Huawei modem also so it is one-to-one comparison.
BTW the Verizon test was supposedly done in *NYC*, not NC.

androidmaster1 said:
Ok...apparently no one here has read about how sprint is going to use a multi-switching system on all they're towers. Which means, its going to free up a lot more spectrum and allow for much more capacity. On top of it, when sprint completely converts to lte network, even more spectrum is going to be available. That's why a lot of these carriers are going or have gone lte. (Long term evolution). Instead of sprint running at 1900mhz , they will run lte at 700mhz.
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Can you post a link?
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Okay....how long have I been saying this now? Seriously wise up people and start listening to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn0Drfu7QYM

[Q] sgs3 using 3G connection? (Less heat)

Honestly I dont need 4g or lte as thry generate way too much heat. Is there a mod to force our phones to use 3g instead??
I think this may help in both battery life and heating up.
My s2 x hercules using 4g didnt heat up as bad...
Its just too hot for me since the antennae is heating on the place we hold the phone in portrait mode
Anyone can point me on the right direction??
Maybe I can play around with the RIL???
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Wrong forum bud, you want q&a. But.... I think Rogers has a toggle and is the same model number as you, so maybe. I know on at&t there's no working toggle as of yet.
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Sorry I was unable to post in q.a fot some reason erm.
Thanks!
Please move me mr/miz.mods
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1sagain said:
Sorry I was unable to post in q.a fot some reason erm.
Thanks!
Please move me mr/miz.mods
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Well, the easiest way is flashing the JellyBean 4.1.1 rom from cyanogenmod, I get HSPDA and 3G on it and I wish I had 4gLTE. The rom doesn't seem to have much issues. I am using it as a daily driver and it is pretty good.

Well, the Rogers version has the switch under Settings > Mobile Networks > Network Mode
Dunno about telus, but I'm pretty sure it should be there otherwise you'll need to flash a custom ROM to make this happen as suggested above or use an APN with the 3G settings instead of the LTE settings...

I would have got the international version if I didn't want the device to get the blazing data speeds LTE can offer.
It would be a useful tool to have for our LTE devices though. Since not everyone wants or has LTE anyway. I plan on keeping LTE on but to each there own.

i love LTE speeds, makes the experience completely different than the international ( i know i have both). But the battery drain on LTE is maddenly and the heat is quite disturbing.

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If you used WiMAX 4G non-LTE and do NOT have LTE available in your area...

I upgraded from the ET4G which has WiMax 4g. There is a 4g tower literally 1/4 mile down my street and i was getting an average of 8-10Mb/sec download speed under Wimax.
I ASSUMED... (thats where i went wrong) I purchased the Note 2, and thought there was the 3g, 4g WiMAX, and 4g LTE modes/antennas. Nope. So now that I have the Note 2 without LTE in my area, I'm stuck with HORRIBLE 3g (CDMA) speeds. No more HD Netflix or even a reliable connection to Pandora (high quality).
I live in South Bay Silicon valley area in California. Now I have to WAIT until LTE rolls out before I can use a data connection speed over 100k/sec. I cant believe they made this phone without the ability to connect to WiMAX 4g. I suppose WiMAX 4g will trashed once LTE rolls out and that would be a waste of hardware in the phone but there was no warning in the tech specs or Sprint reps.
Just warning to all out there wanting to upgrade the the Galaxy Note 2 where LTE is not available but have WiMAX speeds. The phone will NOT pick up WiMAX 4G. I would have waited to upgrade. =(

jeffokada81 said:
I upgraded from the ET4G which has standard 4g. There is a 4g tower literally 1/4 mile down my street and i was getting an average of 8-10Mb/sec download speed under 4g.
I ASSUMED... (thats where i went wrong) I purchased the Note 2, and thought there was the 3g, 4g, and 4g LTE modes/antennas. Nope. So now that I have the Note 2 without LTE in my area, I'm stuck with HORRIBLE 3g (CDMA) speeds. No more HD Netflix or even a reliable connection to Pandora (high quality).
I live in South Bay Silicon valley area in California. Now I have to WAIT until LTE rolls out before I can use a data connection speed over 100k/sec. I cant believe they made this phone without the ability to connect to standard 4g. I supposed 4g will trashed once LTE rolls aout and that would be a waste of hardware in the phone but there was no warning in the tech specs or Sprint reps.
Just warning to all out there wanting to upgrade the the Galaxy Note 2 where LTE is not available but have standard 4g speeds. The phone will NOT pick up 4G. I would have waited to upgrade. =(
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You could always switch back to the epic 4G Touch until LTE arrives and use the note 2 as a WiFi device.
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woah, seriously? I had no idea this was the case... major bummer. I wonder if custom ROMs have the option?

lynyrd65 said:
You could always switch back to the epic 4G Touch until LTE arrives and use the note 2 as a WiFi device.
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Very true, I was just hoping to sell it for $200 and make some money back off the the beastly Note 2 price (on contract when purchased). Its so sad, I'm so used to looking at the 720p screen, it makes the E4GT look so much like a girly phone. =) I read some articles on how fast the 4g LTE should be coming out with wider coverage, I guess LTE is supposed to cover just about everywhere that has 3G coverage. Just a matter of time.Since the Optimus G and the Note 2 are being released, they are pushing LTE as "quick as they can" supposedly.

Dioscorus said:
woah, seriously? I had no idea this was the case... major bummer. I wonder if custom ROMs have the option?
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I checked as best I could. I went into the phones hidden menu using the MSL code and checked the settings. There is no mode for 4G and 4G LTE separately. Sprint tech support also confirmed this (which I don't believe the crap they say). I gave them a hard time because I had a very hard time believing that that phone would not pickup standard 4G.
The app called 'PHONE INFO' on the market show you all your options for radio settings also.

A simple, quick google search would have confirmed that this phone does not have a WiMAX antenna... Samsung tried the best they could to standardize the hardware - not only across carriers but globally as well.

chunology said:
A simple, quick google search would have confirmed that this phone does not have a WiMAX antenna... Samsung tried the best they could to standardize the hardware - not only across carriers but globally as well.
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Thats why I used the words 'I ASSUMED' It makes sense to have WiMAX built in. A normal person would assume it would hence the posting. Just a warning thread.
You wouldn't think to check if, 4G would work on a 4G LTE phone.

Not to piss on ur rant bit its been said a million times by sprint and everyone else no new wimax devices wayyy back before evo lte launched its kinda a no Brainer, that this device wouldn't have wimax jus sayin
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randy2 said:
Not to piss on ur rant bit its been said a million times by sprint and everyone else no new wimax devices wayyy back before evo lte launched its kinda a no Brainer, that this device wouldn't have wimax jus sayin
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Obviously my fault with not keeping up with tech specs. I stayed on T-mobile after switching from Sprint just phone their line of phones and recently came back to Sprint. GSM is alot more simple.

jeffokada81 said:
I checked as best I could. I went into the phones hidden menu using the MSL code and checked the settings. There is no mode for 4G and 4G LTE separately. Sprint tech support also confirmed this (which I don't believe the crap they say). I gave them a hard time because I had a very hard time believing that that phone would not pickup standard 4G.
The app called 'PHONE INFO' on the market show you all your options for radio settings also.
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Even though I was basically without 4G since the inception, I am glad that they didnt include a WiMax radio on this phone. It is a battery leach (so it was always turned off) and I would not want to change the battery life of this phone ever. I am right now on 1 day 5 hours with about 15% left on this battery charge.

yankees177 said:
Even though I was basically without 4G since the inception, I am glad that they didnt include a WiMax radio on this phone. It is a battery leach (so it was always turned off) and I would not want to change the battery life of this phone ever. I am right now on 1 day 5 hours with about 15% left on this battery charge.
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Yes, WiMAX was a leach! At least the specs for battery life are close to 3g battery life. Something i can look forward to.

Not claiming the validity of the thread but I only have one problem which is the OP calling WiMax a standard 4G. So far only LTE Advanced (not a regular LTE) is capable of such standard.

someone0 said:
Not claiming the validity of the thread but I only have one problem which is the OP calling WiMax a standard 4G. So far only LTE Advanced (not a regular LTE) is capable of such standard.
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I was thinking about correcting that but i figure people got the idea.... ill go ahead and change that...

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the sprint s3 the same way? Lte only, no wimax?
I'm sorry about this, but honestly this was a no Brainer. Once sprint signed on with lte, wimax was done. To expect them to put a battery draining radio they had no intention of continuing with (known for a very long time) would be unrealistic.
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jyveturkey said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the sprint s3 the same way? Lte only, no wimax?
I'm sorry about this, but honestly this was a no Brainer. Once sprint signed on with lte, wimax was done. To expect them to put a battery draining radio they had no intention of continuing with (known for a very long time) would be unrealistic.
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I've been following the thread since the first page and have been waiting for someone to post exactly this. Complete no brainer IMO

Jocelyn said:
I've been following the thread since the first page and have been waiting for someone to post exactly this. Complete no brainer IMO
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Ah, oh well. I should have kept up with the High speed specs of LTE and WiMAX. I just went out and bought the lastest and greatest. I'm your typical "USER". I did some searching. obviously AFTER the fact and it seems I'm not the only one which make me feel a bit better about getting flamed.

It's not a big deal, and in fact, I'm a bit surprised you didn't get hammered sooner and harder. I'm thinking these forums are not as active or less forgiving than say the development forums.
Enjoy your new toy, I'm jealous but I'm holding off till development is further along.
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This is coming from a 4 year XDA vet? Really? Wow...
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jyveturkey said:
It's not a big deal, and in fact, I'm a bit surprised you didn't get hammered sooner and harder. I'm thinking these forums are not as active or less forgiving than say the development forums.
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Duh
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fatboypup said:
Duh
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Lol! Just gonna leave leave the thread open to how much my rectum can take...

[Q] Anyone in the Arizona/Phoenix Area

Well as the title pretty much says it, I am wondering if anyone is in the Phoenix, AZ area and what their speeds are on 3G. I'm asking because when I do manage to get 3G service, I have a whopping 5-15kbps average, with tops of 150kbps at like 3am when, I suppose, there is hardly anyone utilizing the network.
If anyone is in the area I'd love to hear your experience with Sprint and 3G. The way things are here, I'm pretty much just waiting for my contract to expire.

Happy I moved back to Chicago from phoenix omg to damn hot. I'm surprised your phone can take the heat. Well when I lived there sprint 3g was horrible I lived on north 28 drive down the street from a bus station and the mall.
In Chicago lte is blazing fast and I haven't seen 3g in months on my phone.
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bonebeatz1234 said:
Happy I moved back to Chicago from phoenix omg to damn hot. I'm surprised your phone can take the heat. Well when I lived there sprint 3g was horrible I lived on north 28 drive down the street from a bus station and the mall.
In Chicago lte is blazing fast and I haven't seen 3g in months on my phone.
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Trust me you are glad you moved out, apart form the heat Sprint's data connection sucks. Dial up is at least more reliable than the 3G service we have pretty much throughout the county. We've been promised 4G and LTE for about four years now...

I was between Phoenix and Surprise last week on a trip. Man, I thought our data speeds in central Wisconsin were bad. There were some times I couldn't get any data as it bounced from one bar of sprint to roaming. Awful. Feel bad for you. If I lived there, I probably would leave sprint.

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bohiti said:
I was between Phoenix and Surprise last week on a trip. Man, I thought our data speeds in central Wisconsin were bad. There were some times I couldn't get any data as it bounced from one bar of sprint to roaming. Awful. Feel bad for you. If I lived there, I probably would leave sprint.
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If it wasn't for unlimited data and a hopeful spirit for improvement I'd have left quiet a while ago. I've been even connecting to 1x recently, I had almost forgotten it still existed.
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Thanks for the heads up. I wasn't quiet sure where to post.
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[Q] T999 S3 and 4G speed?

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My phone is Galaxy S3 T999 without LTE, and I got very weak T Mobile signal at my home address, 3 bars for 3G and 1or 2 bars for HSPA+.
so my questions are: how does T Moible define 4G? does T Moible count HSPA+ as 4G data? is T999 capable of 4G?
am I wasting my 5GB 4G data plan with my T999 phone?
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My phone is Galaxy S3 T999 without LTE, and I got very weak T Mobile signal at my home address, 3 bars for 3G and 1or 2 bars for HSPA+.
so my questions are: how does T Moible define 4G? does T Moible count HSPA+ as 4G data? is T999 capable of 4G?
am I wasting my 5GB 4G data plan with my T999 phone?
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First, if you look for the thread and its not here, its moved to the Q&A area.
There are a few things you can try to improve your signal.
Toggle airplane mode on then off.
I'm sure you've tried, but Reboot the phone.
Try some different modems. Link in my sig. (There are a lot of them and some will be better than others for your area.)
Try the build.prop tweaks in the modem thread
Finally, call tmobile. If your house is in a location they show to have good 4G, they might give you a signal booster for your home. (Might is the key word!)
HSPA+ is actually considered a 3g tech (3.5-3.75 to be precise) tmobile got away with calking it 4g because they could match other carriers 4g speeds (more or less).
Still, you should be able to pull an average of 12-20mb/s which is pretty sufficient for most needs.
The T999 is capable of truer 4g speeds, but its when using their HSPA+42 tech. If you are in an area that was upgraded with this, you could see averages of 20-30mb/s I'm guessing.
Are you wasting your money with the T999? Only you can really answer that. If they have rolled out LTE in your market, then maybe. But if not, itll be just as good as any other phone you could get from them.
Hope that helps!
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