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Ive only had mine since the Saturday before last and already I have a tiny scuff on the lens and a hairline scratch on the screen. I've not dropped, manhandled or in any way mistreated the handset and I keep it in my jeans pocket with no other items....I can't for the life of me work out how this has happened. Luckily It's going back to T-Mobile as I'm not happy with the headphone loudness...unfortunately it will spoil my enjoyment of the device a little as I'm going to be constantly worrying about scratches .appearing from nowhere.
Just thought I'd let you guys know that it might be wise to get a case and screen protector for your Desire and not assume that careful handling will prevent it getting irritating scratches or marks.
I have not received mine yet (it should be tomorrow), but I got same experience like yours with my HTC Kaiser.
I put it in my jeans pocket with nothing else, but yeah ... got scratches and the LENS cover is dirty which you cannot clean it.
I could buy the back part where the lens cover reside, but that's 30 euro in cost.
So, now, I bought a "seal" type of pouch for my upcoming HTC Desire
http://www.fommy.co.uk/view-full-page.asp?divid=Google&cat=Cases&skuno=82280
I already received it, it is soft leather and look nice. It should cover the whole device with slide open on top.
And I will buy screen protector later from martinshields.com (bit expensive, but it never let me down on my HTC Kaiser, Touch Dual, and Nintendo DSi). Strong, clear, thin and NO BUBBLES!
leoni1980 said:
Ive only had mine since the Saturday before last and already I have a tiny scuff on the lens and a hairline scratch on the screen. I've not dropped, manhandled or in any way mistreated the handset and I keep it in my jeans pocket with no other items....I can't for the life of me work out how this has happened. Luckily It's going back to T-Mobile as I'm not happy with the headphone loudness...unfortunately it will spoil my enjoyment of the device a little as I'm going to be constantly worrying about scratches .appearing from nowhere.
Just thought I'd let you guys know that it might be wise to get a case and screen protector for your Desire and not assume that careful handling will prevent it getting irritating scratches or marks.
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leoni1980 said:
Ive only had mine since the Saturday before last and already I have a tiny scuff on the lens and a hairline scratch on the screen. I've not dropped, manhandled or in any way mistreated the handset and I keep it in my jeans pocket with no other items....I can't for the life of me work out how this has happened. Luckily It's going back to T-Mobile as I'm not happy with the headphone loudness...unfortunately it will spoil my enjoyment of the device a little as I'm going to be constantly worrying about scratches .appearing from nowhere.
Just thought I'd let you guys know that it might be wise to get a case and screen protector for your Desire and not assume that careful handling will prevent it getting irritating scratches or marks.
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Similar situation with me - a few tiny scratches on the screen. Have to look hard to see them, but they're there. Waiting on screen protectors.
Just in case your getting confused... The screen has a cross hatch set of lines in it... Its part of the multitouch hardware i think. you can only see it in some angles of light. Same with the gridded dots.
Though i did buy a cheap felt pouch to keep it safe untill the PDAir cases come out.
I had a spare screen protector from my Milestone i just cut it to size and used that, far better than not having one at all, even though my old phone the Milestone had gorilla glass which they say you can't scratch i still never trusted it.
put it in a pouch.
Just cos there's no keys, pens etc. in your pocket, does not mean there's no fluff, grit or something else in there that will scratch the screen when it's pressed against your leg. all it takes is a tiny particle of grit or sand to get between the lining of your pocket and the screen and it'll scratch it to buggery!
I put an old Hero screen protector on mine, its covered the main screen portion but not the bezel area, waiting on my official screen protector though!
lets hope zagg release their invisible shield soon. those things are awesome!
I am going to try buy these official screen protectors
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=20776861-6444-496C-B236-423388B27C27
I thought it had the same glass screen as the HD2?
They have uploaded video of someone using keys and knives on an HD2 screen to try and scratch it and have failed...
@leoni1980
You had hd2 if I remember correctly?
I consider buying desire, could you compare overall build quality of this two devices? Also, is call quality in desire better than hd 2?
One more question:
In a phone call, does proximity sensor works like one on hd2 or iphone? Or do you must turn the screen on/off manualy?
Thanks.
hrcro said:
@leoni1980
You had hd2 if I remember correctly?
I consider buying desire, could you compare overall build quality of this two devices? Also, is call quality in desire better than hd 2?
One more question:
In a phone call, does proximity sensor works like one on hd2 or iphone? Or do you must turn the screen on/off manualy?
Thanks.
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The screen turns off when you lift the phone to your face in a call, and turns back on when you bring it down.
The build quality is as good I think, although this opinion is somewhat tainted by the fact that under the same circumstances my HD2 never developed a single scratch or scuff. I have a few tiny nicks on my camera lens already which is incredibly annoying since it is literally just 11 days of usage....one would expect a phone kept purely in a trouser pocket on its own to endure longer than a week and a half before developing marks.....
I'm really quite put off by this. When I get my replacement it'll be going straight in a gel case, though lord knows what I will use to protect the lens (which is clearly very susceptible to damage).
This is why I always say: use a pouch and use a screen protector! And e.g. when placing the phone on a hard surface, use the pouch as protection (read: put the phone on top of the pouch or keep the phone inside the pouch).
Mobiles are becoming disposable objects more and more. People use them for two years and then get rid of them (in the garbage bin). So not all people care about scratches etc. They will probably think the pouch and screen protector is nonsense.
Btw, getting a scratch doesn't nescecarily say something about the quality of the phone. In my experience getting a scratch on the phone is usually just bad luck. E.g. I had my Omnia for half a year, no scratches whatsoever. And my Hero was scratched the first week (even when I am so carefull with my stuff). Build quality of the Hero is much better than the Omnia imho (Omnia is all plastic, and chrome paint etc usually damages quickly). It only takes one silly moment to get a scratch unfortunately.
I always sell my phones after some time, every scratch is less value!
Guys Guys...It's a phone, scratch the baby up a bit let her live a little, all you are doing is keeping it tidy for the next owner, my phones are f**ked by the time the next all singing handset comes out so it gives me an excuse to buy the next one.
You might get 50 quid less by sending it off to envirofone or whatever but who cares it's only a phone and does not need leather fluffy cases
ronnyuk, you took the words out of my mouth. Spending time opening cases or sliding in and out of a pouch isnt worth it. Get past the first few scratches and then you can enjoy you phone without the worry. No scratches on mine yet though. Somehow I don't think the desire is going to stand up to what my touch pro went through. That was one seriously tough phone. I have dents in my wall from that baby.
RaptorRVL,
Did you specifically buy a pouch for your HTC Desire?
Or is it a used one from your other device?
If possible, let me know which one and where did you buy the pouch.
As I noted above, I got simple and nice soft-leather pouch from Fommy.co.uk, but if your pouch is nicer I will change
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This is why I always say: use a pouch and use a screen protector! And e.g. when placing the phone on a hard surface, use the pouch as protection (read: put the phone on top of the pouch or keep the phone inside the pouch).
Mobiles are becoming disposable objects more and more. People use them for two years and then get rid of them (in the garbage bin). So not all people care about scratches etc. They will probably think the pouch and screen protector is nonsense.
Btw, getting a scratch doesn't nescecarily say something about the quality of the phone. In my experience getting a scratch on the phone is usually just bad luck. E.g. I had my Omnia for half a year, no scratches whatsoever. And my Hero was scratched the first week (even when I am so carefull with my stuff). Build quality of the Hero is much better than the Omnia imho (Omnia is all plastic, and chrome paint etc usually damages quickly). It only takes one silly moment to get a scratch unfortunately.
I always sell my phones after some time, every scratch is less value!
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The Desire screen is certainly alot harder than the Touch HD due, I assume, to the different technologies. Thus I am hoping to get away without a protective screen - which I could never seem to get on the HD perfectly.
I was just wondering though whether, if the worst came to the worst, and my Desire does get scratched can you use a Displex ( http://www.displex.com ) type scratch remover? Worked very well on my early non-touch screen phones but clearly would not on the soft finish of the HD.
Anyone know whether OK on the capacactive Desire screen - still have half a tube left?
gogol said:
RaptorRVL,
Did you specifically buy a pouch for your HTC Desire?
Or is it a used one from your other device?
If possible, let me know which one and where did you buy the pouch.
As I noted above, I got simple and nice soft-leather pouch from Fommy.co.uk, but if your pouch is nicer I will change
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I got this one :
http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160415564575&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
It's super cheap, 4 euros. It's for the nexus but fits the Desire very nicely (same size). Perhaps it could have been a few mm longer, that would have been perfect (little bit more protection at the top). But I guess it will all stretch a bit since its neoprene.
Can take a picture tomorrow with the Desire in if you want.
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I got this one :
http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160415564575&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
It's super cheap, 4 euros. It's for the nexus but fits the Desire very nicely (same size). Perhaps it could have been a few mm longer, that would have been perfect (little bit more protection at the top). But I guess it will all stretch a bit since its neoprene.
Can take a picture tomorrow with the Desire in if you want.
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I'd like to see a pic of it if possible, as I've ordered it too but shipping takes quite a while.
Thanks
Over all I'm happy with the build quality of my GSM GNex, but it has one minor flaw.
The plastic edge around the screen. Top, Bottom and Right side are perfect and rounded smooth (just like my SGS2), but the left edge i kinda rough and not rounded and smooth like the others. It has a rough feel with a slight sharp feel if you slide your finger over it and makes a "small" rough sound.
Do any of you recognize this? Or is your GNex perfectly smooth like the SGS2?
mine feels uniformly smooth on all sides. one thing i don't like though is dust being trapped in between the said edges and screen. other than that it's flawless
I'm very happy with the build quality on my verizon version.
My only gripe about my GN physically is the rear cover. Just below the camera if you put a small amount of pressure on the cover and then release it, you can hear a slight clicking noise as the cover pops back out.
Other than that, flawless.
My problem .... frigging power button on side of the phone!!! I have to be so careful not to do a screen shoot its just unbelievable ...only other way of switching screen on or off is to hold the phone form top instead resting it on your palm
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My Gnex is perfectly solid despite having dropped it on tile twice. Yeah, I'm a klutz. There aren't any creaks in it, no popped-up glass, buttons are smooth, no loose or rough joins anywhere.
As I mentioned in another thread, the "flimsy" back cover of the Gnex has an advantage in that it doesn't fly off and let the battery go as well when the phone is dropped. Every smartphone I've ever owned would, when dropped, fly in three different directions when it hit the ground- phone in one direction, back cover in another, battery in another. The Gnex stays in one piece.
Somehow I've only managed to break two phones in my life despite my constant accidental drop testing. Neither of the broken phones was a Samsung (one was a SE X10 dropped into a sinkful of water, the other a BlackBerry dropped on pavement). Admittedly the Samsungs feel a little flimsy next to a lot of high-end phones, but the fact that they are lightweight and plastic actually makes them more durable, IME.
Mine is fine, outside of one extremely annoying issue. The vibrate motor on my unlocked GSM Nexus makes the phone rattle on the bottom right side (obviously where the motor is housed) if I'm not holding the phone on that side. I am normally a vibrate all the time guy...now I only have it vibrate for phone calls because it annoys me so much. I love how powerful and silent the motor is when I'm holding it...(at least compared to my Droid Incredible 2). My Verizon Nexus didn't do this at all before I returned it. Sad.
Lodion said:
My only gripe about my GN physically is the rear cover. Just below the camera if you put a small amount of pressure on the cover and then release it, you can hear a slight clicking noise as the cover pops back out.
Other than that, flawless.
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Argh, hadn't noticed that before. cannot unhear the clicking noise
put a layer or two of masking tape on the back of the cover until the space has been taken up. problem solved.
My software buttons are uneven. Vertically. Should I sand them down or beat with hammer?
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
This shoud fix the battery cover problem http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Metal-ba...858658?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2a1808d5e2
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My software buttons are uneven. Vertically.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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Mine too. I've exchanged 3 times and they all have the same problem. I think it is because of the curved glass.
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My software buttons are uneven. Vertically.
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I am curious. What are you talking about here? do you mean the virtual buttons on the bottom are not aligned? Could you do a screenshot to show what you mean if that is the case? I have never heard of that one before.
@rbiter said:
My software buttons are uneven. Vertically. Should I sand them down or beat with hammer?
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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Lol. I had to quote myself. Guess the joke was missed.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
Thanks for all the replies. I ended of returning my GNex as a DOA, so now I'm waiting for a new one.
Hey friends,
I'm holding an HTC 10 in my hands right now after I had the s7e briefly for a couple of days a month ago I decided to take it back and wait for the HTC 10.
Finally I got mine 4 days ago and I have mixed feelings about it. Obviously the s7 edge is better in the display, battery and camera department. The main reason why I returned the s7e is the stupid edged screen which I found irritating to handle and I didn't like how the display curves around the edges and cuts of text in some apps. The bending of light around the edges also irritated me.
The HTC 10 is one great device and I love the decide in general except for a few minor points. The camera is not as quick.
Still I find myself somehow tempted to switch back to the s7e but I am afraid I'll regret it again... Ohhhh ocd.
Maybe you can give me some good reasons why you chose the HTC over the s7e?
Thanks!
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To me
-HTC is better screen, but thats a preference in what you like.
-S7Edge screen can be fix with a case, I got the Ringke fusion clear case and I dont hit buttons inadvertently when I type anymore.
-The edge can be turn off.
-If you dont like the edge, get the regular S7 with exynos processor.
The only reason that people may tell you to get the HTC 10 is because they think touchwiz is still slow. Boomsound speaker is another reason to switch however, you can get dual facing speaker with the S7 edge just look at my video I posted a few days ago.
Ultimately this is what it come down to:
HTC 10
HTC blink feed
Metal
Boomsound speaker
Samsung
All glass design
enormous S7 edge battery
IP68 water proof
dual speaker (only on exynos phone)
The screen is up for grabs but if you like amoled then Samsung is the way for you.
I'm hoping BestBuy gets some unlocked HTC 10s in soon or I'll have to grab a Galaxy.
The number one reason I want an HTC 10 over a GS7 is build quality. The all glass construction of the GS7 is a disaster waiting to happen.
I've read far to many horror stories, not to mention all the drop videos, showing what happens when they hit the ground, even carpet.
I'm kind of in the same boat. I actually have both the S7 and the HTC 10 on my desk right now. There are a lot of things that I like about each one, but I'm torn between which to keep.
S7 Pros
- 5x5 app grid
- Volume and power buttons on the opposite sides of the phone
- Headphone jack at the bottom
- Quick settings accessible with one swipe
- FM radio
HTC 10 Pros
- Faster fingerprint reader
- "Capacitive" home button
- Cleaner Sense interface
- BoomSound
- Finally good camera
I like that the S7 is a little smaller and easier to manage with one hand, and Touchwiz seems to be a lot more refined. I think that HTC actually pared Sense back a little too much with the 10. There's not a lot of Sense left, but they kept the 4x4 app grid, which I really can't stand. On a 5.2" screen, it's really a total waste of space, and from what I can tell, the only way to fix that is to install a custom ROM, which I don't want to do until I'm sure I want to keep it. I'm also struggling because I feel like my S7 may have a defective display. The whites are kind of off and whenever I angle the phone slightly off center, the display gets a blue tint to it. I've never had an AMOLED display before, so I don't know if this is just how they are, or I have a bad one.
Any advice?
exxi said:
Hey friends,
I'm holding an HTC 10 in my hands right now after I had the s7e briefly for a couple of days a month ago I decided to take it back and wait for the HTC 10.
Finally I got mine 4 days ago and I have mixed feelings about it. Obviously the s7 edge is better in the display, battery and camera department. The main reason why I returned the s7e is the stupid edged screen which I found irritating to handle and I didn't like how the display curves around the edges and cuts of text in some apps. The bending of light around the edges also irritated me.
The HTC 10 is one great device and I love the decide in general except for a few minor points. The camera is not as quick.
Still I find myself somehow tempted to switch back to the s7e but I am afraid I'll regret it again... Ohhhh ocd.
Maybe you can give me some good reasons why you chose the HTC over the s7e?
Thanks!
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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If you liked the S7e but hated the edges, why not just get the S7 and be done with it? You're in an htc section so you're going to get biased opinions.
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Sammae7 said:
I'm hoping BestBuy gets some unlocked HTC 10s in soon or I'll have to grab a Galaxy.
The number one reason I want an HTC 10 over a GS7 is build quality. The all glass construction of the GS7 is a disaster waiting to happen.
I've read far to many horror stories, not to mention all the drop videos, showing what happens when they hit the ground, even carpet.
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thats what a case is for. are you going to carry your HTC naked?
I drop my S7E once or twice about 4-5ft with a ringke fusion clear case and no damage at all.
I always use a case.
Just stating what I've learned from some research. There is also a topic in the GS7 forum concerning the camera glass cracking out of nowhere.
Regardless, I don't want to spend $700 on a device and worry about the entire phone shattering. Worrying about the screen on phones is enough.
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I always use a case.
Just stating what I've learned from some research. There is also a topic in the GS7 forum concerning the camera glass cracking out of nowhere.
Regardless, I don't want to spend $700 on a device and worry about the entire phone shattering. Worrying about the screen on phones is enough.
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if you use a case then how is it gonna crack?
thats like saying regardless if you have a case on the HTC 10 or not its gonna dent or scratch if you drop it. doesnt make sense.
A case will protect metal from scratching/denting much better than it will against glass breaking. Glass is far more fragile.
Last winter I slipped with my phone in my hand. My phone slammed into the ground and the case slipped off one corner. It left a scuff mark on my phone. The GS7 would have shattered. Case or not, it's simply more fragile due to its build material.
I'm not calling it a bad device, just a fragile one, like the all glass IPhone before it.
Updates are important to me. Camera is second but it's okay. The HTC camera isn't very good IMO. And when I say "isn't good" I mean not a convenient camera. It takes great shots and what not but there's no oleophobic coating on the lens so smudges affect the image more. It's just unreliable for me for the auto photographer like me.
Battery could be better but for me it could be an app draining it.
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Sammae7 said:
A case will protect metal from scratching/denting much better than it will against glass breaking. Glass is far more fragile.
Last winter I slipped with my phone in my hand. My phone slammed into the ground and the case slipped off one corner. It left a scuff mark on my phone. The GS7 would have shattered. Case or not, it's simply more fragile due to its build material.
I'm not calling it a bad device, just a fragile one, like the all glass IPhone before it.
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the problem lies in that you have a crappy case, not that the glass breaks and you have a case.
yes its fragile material, but if you have a case I dont see how it will break. that being said, I always own the Ringke fusion minimal clear case, drop my phone (S6, note 5 and S7 edge) several time, nothing happen. granted the HTC 10 wont shatter but it'll leave a dent or it'll scratch and it'll be a sore eye regardless.
Dude....if you have second thoughts about it, just return it already. Grown ups do not ask these childish question.
Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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Since the day or so after the initial recall I decided for once in my life I'll throw caution to the wind and take the plunge of no case or screen protector on my phone, It made me a little sick to my stomach to peel off the screen protector and case and take off for a busy day of work and school with nothing protecting my phone from damage. I figured I'd see a plethora of scratches by the end of the day, and I was able to try this test out because of the recall and Samsung promising to take the phone back regardless of the condition. To my surprise, nothing, not a single scratch, day 2, same and so on.
Fast forward a few weeks, recall phone is traded - STILL IN PERFECT CONDITION, not a screen protector or case has touched it in weeks. Granted I still coddled it, but no different than I would any phone I've had, and I treated the phone like it had a Screen Protector and case on it. Threw it in my pocket, laid it on my desk at work, sat it in my center console in my truck etc. Not a single scratch or dent.
Trade the phone in on Sept 21st and got my new "Safe" Note7, decided that I finally felt comfortable with going "Naked" on my phone after the recall device and have since, so about another week with my "Safe" device and still not a single mark or scratch to be found. I'm actually in the process of getting a replacement for my replacement through Samsung, nothing major, just a lack of quality control on Samsung's part that I have an issue with with this replacement device and Samsung is giving me no hassle about it. I assume my phone suffered from the rush of trying to fix the recall ... but who knows.
Anyways, I will continue going "naked" on this phone, I have no reason not to. And a screen protector just destroys the feeling of this beautiful phones feel and functionality, and really so does a case. i own the LED Wallet case which I love and plan to use here and there, and I probably own around 20 other various cases that I'm sure I will use for fun here and there, But for the most part I've felt the "Naked" feeling and there's no going back lol.
Point of this thread is, I'm not sure how people that are complaining about this phone being "easily scratched" are treating their phones, or if they maybe got defective glass or something. I haven't had a single problem, and when i say I'm anal about my phones it's an understatement, and I feel 100% confident in using this phone protection-free on a daily basis. Obviously you still have to take care of this phone and be extremely careful .... it's made of glass after all. And I cant endorse its drop capabilities lol, That i have no idea of, and hope i never do. But for anyone wondering how this phone holds up with no protection and a pretty active daily use ... so far with my Note7 ... perfectly fine, still looks like the day I opened it.
What issues did you have with your replacement that has caused them to replace the replacement?
This is an interesting test to run - i still have my original one, and the replacement, because Samsung decided the closest drop-off location for me is about 3.5-4 hours away without traffic... I'll be waiting until they call and give me another method to return it. Think I might carry it around and see how it holds up... would be an interesting test, as I'm pretty hard on my devices.
really good to hear your note 7 not scratching easily, I think most ef the people posting geting scratches out of the blue, were careless, honestly not remembering what could have probably scratched their phone, it just takes 2 or 3 people reporting the same thing to drive many others real paranoid, I got my note7 on 29th Aug, and not a single scratch, I treat my phone as any other one, if you spend a sizeable ammount of money, the best way to do is use common sense, and normal level of care
I've never used a screen protector on my original and now replacement Note and all is fine. Now I definitely use a case cause i find this phone too slippery without one... I do take caution, always put it down/away if distracted with something else and never place it in my pocket with anything else like your supposed to.
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What issues did you have with your replacement that has caused them to replace the replacement?
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The metal bezel on the left hand side of the phone is sharp, like almost razor-blade sharp. You cant see if from looking at it, but you can scrap your hand off it and it feels sharp and uncomfortable to hold. and the corners of the phone where the back glass meet the metal is also sharp on all 4 corners, the right side of the phone is smooth as silk though. very weird, but almost seems like it was clued together fast and off centered and shipped out to meet demand. $900 for a phone i HAS to be as perfect as possible, but this one wasn't forgivable.
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really good to hear your note 7 not scratching easily, I think most ef the people posting geting scratches out of the blue, were careless, honestly not remembering what could have probably scratched their phone, it just takes 2 or 3 people reporting the same thing to drive many others real paranoid, I got my note7 on 29th Aug, and not a single scratch, I treat my phone as any other one, if you spend a sizeable ammount of money, the best way to do is use common sense, and normal level of care
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Yep, just be careful, life happens and that's not up to you, but if you're careful and conscious of your phone on you you should be alright, my wife is horrible about that, I drive a beefed up semi-lifted truck and EVERY time she goes anywhere with me, she places her phone on her lap and then hops out of my truck forgetting the phone was sitting on her lap. Drives me nuts. Her Note 4 has seen some shxt in its day, but still looks good and functions perfect, she wants to upgrade to a Note 7 which i hope she does, but shes gonna have to start paying more attention, because one of those falls out of my truck is going to destroy a Note 7 lol. Clumsiness for the most part can be prevented, just being aware, my phone is the most expensive thing I carry on me, so I always make sure its protected, and to be honest I've seen people smash phones wrapped in tempered glass screen protectors and otter-boxes, stuff happens, but I do my best to avoid it.
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I've never used a screen protector on my original and now replacement Note and all is fine. Now I definitely use a case cause i find this phone too slippery without one... I do take caution, always put it down/away if distracted with something else and never place it in my pocket with anything else like your supposed to.
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Oh this phone naked is like holding a wet bar of soap, its horribly slippery, But I guess that's the price you pay for a beautiful glass device lol I enjoy the way the glass looks and feels, but I do fear the slipperiness of it, so for me again anytime I pull mine out of my pocket I always ensure my grip is on point, anytime I feel the need to "whip" my phone out really fast I take a breath and realize that i don't actually need to lol, and when I hold the phone, i comfortably hold it with my pinkie finger under it so the phone rests on my finger. Bottom line ... take care of your stuff and be mindful and you should be alright, people treat phones like crap then complain that it cant take a beating ... drives me nuts ... its glass. Treat it like a $900 piece of glass lol.
Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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At least you have a replacement! I put a clear skin on the front and back of mine before I ever powered it on. I'm OCD and any scratches would annoy me and plus I want to keep it in mint condition so if I ever go to sell it on swappa it will be in like new condition. Even with the skin on it, I'm still babying it. What's crazy is my mother had an S4 and she is not easy on phones and after almost 2 years of use on that phone the sides and screen had not a scratch, not even a slight one (I know because I just sold it on swappa and inspected it very close). The screen and edges were still in like new mint condition. Only the removable plastic back had signs of wear. That's kind of sad when you think that a 3+ year old device made by the same company as the note 7 has a more durable screen. I replaced my V10 with the Note 7 and after months of use on my V10 with no protection it still looks new. I stopped using screen protectors and cases 3 years ago because I just hate the added bulk but unfortunately I'm not taking the chance with the Note 7. The clear skin doesn't really bother me though. And I'm thinking about also getting a calicase.
Anyway, thanks for the update. I'm glad I read all the post and not just the first one lol. I think you should edit post 1 so others who are lazy and only read post one don't go and take off their protection and then end up with scratched phones
P.S. I almost forgot. I'm actually on my second note 7 because the first one never made it out the store without getting scratched up. I had them put a screen protector on it for me and they took my phone in the back of the store for like 20 minutes and then come out with a poorly attached protector and then I inspected the phone and they had scratched the back up bad. So I made them replace it.
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At least you have a replacement! I put a clear skin on the front and back of mine before I ever powered it on. I'm OCD and any scratches would annoy me and plus I want to keep it in mint condition so if I ever go to sell it on swappa it will be in like new condition. Even with the skin on it, I'm still babying it. What's crazy is my mother had an S4 and she is not easy on phones and after almost 2 years of use on that phone the sides and screen had not a scratch, not even a slight one (I know because I just sold it on swappa and inspected it very close). The screen and edges were still in like new mint condition. Only the removable plastic back had signs of wear. That's kind of sad when you think that a 3+ year old device made by the same company as the note 7 has a more durable screen. I replaced my V10 with the Note 7 and after months of use on my V10 with no protection it still looks new. I stopped using screen protectors and cases 3 years ago because I just hate the added bulk but unfortunately I'm not taking the chance with the Note 7. The clear skin doesn't really bother me though. And I'm thinking about also getting a calicase.
Anyway, thanks for the update. I'm glad I read all the post and not just the first one lol. I think you should edit post 1 so others who are lazy and only read post one don't go and take off their protection and then end up with scratched phones
P.S. I almost forgot. I'm actually on my second note 7 because the first one never made it out the store without getting scratched up. I had them put a screen protector on it for me and they took my phone in the back of the store for like 20 minutes and then come out with a poorly attached protector and then I inspected the phone and they had scratched the back up bad. So I made them replace it.
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Lol good point, I updated the first post. And yeah I'm ridiculously anal with my devices, But i'm wondering if I need to start loosening up lol. I keep these phones pristine for a year then trade them in (AT&T) my last phone the S6 Edge + (Miss that phone) was M-I-N-T when I turned it in, protector on the front and back, which looking back at it now I realized that i suffered not having the full feel of the phone so that AT&T can sell it top dollar and the next person gets a great deal on a mint phone, who for all I know will; not care and destroy it. Now I'm not saying I'm gonna start being rough with my phone, gonna use my LED case more, and I just ordered a Skinomi Full body protector (we'll see how that goes, I don't have much faith in it) and if it feels like shxt, it's coming off and I'm gonna enjoy the phone as I have been, and get my moneys worth, and AT&T can figure out to do with it when I upgrade.
The Note 7 was designed to be naked, no doubt about it ... but the execution was botched and going naked comes with a price, which sucks, but again the fact is, this isn't my phone in the end, and as much as I love it, I know i wont pay it off once the Note 8 rears its head next year lol so screw it, I'll give the Skinomi Protector a shot, if it's crap, them I'm not gonna sweat the phone getting light scratches ... I'm having a bit of an anxiety attack just typing that, But i'll just have to work at it and get through it lol
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Lol good point, I updated the first post. And yeah I'm ridiculously anal with my devices, But i'm wondering if I need to start loosening up lol. I keep these phones pristine for a year then trade them in (AT&T) my last phone the S6 Edge + (Miss that phone) was M-I-N-T when I turned it in, protector on the front and back, which looking back at it now I realized that i suffered not having the full feel of the phone so that AT&T can sell it top dollar and the next person gets a great deal on a mint phone, who for all I know will; not care and destroy it. Now I'm not saying I'm gonna start being rough with my phone, gonna use my LED case more, and I just ordered a Skinomi Full body protector (we'll see how that goes, I don't have much faith in it) and if it feels like shxt, it's coming off and I'm gonna enjoy the phone as I have been, and get my moneys worth, and AT&T can figure out to do with it when I upgrade.
The Note 7 was designed to be naked, no doubt about it ... but the execution was botched and going naked comes with a price, which sucks, but again the fact is, this isn't my phone in the end, and as much as I love it, I know i wont pay it off once the Note 8 rears its head next year lol so screw it, I'll give the Skinomi Protector a shot, if it's crap, them I'm not gonna sweat the phone getting light scratches ... I'm having a bit of an anxiety attack just typing that, But i'll just have to work at it and get through it lol
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I got the Skinomi clear skin and its been great so far. After you attach it give it a day to settle onto the phone because at first it doesn't look good but after a few hours I noticed it looked a lot better and the next day it looked perfect. The only problem I had was getting the sides to stick. I even used a blow dryer and I just couldn't get them to stay down but I ended up using the top burners on my stove to heat the edges up and then they stuck and they haven't come up since. The s-pen still slides smooth as well with the white inserts. It does have a bit of a texture which I could see would annoy some people but it doesn't really bother me.
What material are your pockets made out of, sandpaper? My original Note 7 (recall replacement arrives today) has never seen a case or screen protector and is completely unscathed. I have not even been as gentle as you described. So weird.
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Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see.
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I certainly believe your report of your observations and recollections, but your experience differs sharply from my own. I've been using unprotected Note 7s heavily (pre- and post-recall) for about a month, and I've acquired no scratches whatsoever.
When I check for scratches, I always use direct sunlight or a comparably bright source, and I rotate the phone through a range of angles in order to see any subtle defects. It sounds like that's not something you've been doing routinely, but rather something that just recently happened by chance. If that's the case, you may not really know when your scratches arose (or even whether your previous devices might have had similar scratches), which may complicate the diagnosis of how they occurred.
I trust we agree that the careful treatment you described could not have scratched even ordinary glass, let alone Gorilla Glass 5. So there are several possibilities. Perhaps the phone scraped against something sharp (even while it was in your pocket) without your noticing. Perhaps the process of applying or removing the case or screen protector scratched it somehow. Perhaps it came with subtle, hard-to-notice scratches already on it. Or could it even be that the phone isn't scratched, but rather has some sort of residue that rubbed off on it? (Have you tried washing it off with a wet paper towel and substantial pressure?)
Again, I trust your observations, but I'm curious as to how your scratches arose, and how your experience diverged from my own. I appreciate your taking the time to update everyone on your situation. And regardless of how the scratches happened, I'm glad you're getting a replacement.
Like i said, being so anal i looked at the phone everyday after naked use, never noticed any scratches, but last night I caught direct light at a side angle and saw the back bottom scratched, from 2 feet away from your eyes looking straight at the phone, looks perfect, up close and examining it with angled light it's def scratched.
When i say im careful, I'm careful... I got the cold sweats when i saw the scratches lol I've coddled thus phone with mittens since i got it, like i said I lay it on tbings and then move that whenever I set my phobe on my desk for no otger reason but to avoid sliding my phone on any surfaces ... pocket always empty and clean, I don't play in the dirt or go to the beach, pockets feel like normal clean pockets lol. I mean people can make excuses for tge glass, he'll i did too when i saw the initial scratch posts, even started a thread praising the scratch resistance ... I seriously don't know how much more careful you can be with a phone as i have been with this one and it still scuffed. I'll grab some pictures with the wife's phone and post them.
It almost seems like theres a raised lips right before the glass dipps down.
Attached is a pic illustrating the damage on my phone almost exactly (until i can grab a few pics) ... and also attached is why I think its happening.
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Attached is a pic illustrating the damage on my phone almost exactly (until i can grab a few pics) ... and also attached is why I think its happening.
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You just wanted to use the fancy s-pen features and that drawing was your excuse. ;P
And I don't blame you :laugh:
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Like i said, being so anal i looked at the phone everyday after naked use, never noticed any scratches, but last night I caught direct light at a side angle and saw the back bottom scratched, from 2 feet away from your eyes looking straight at the phone, looks perfect, up close and examining it with angled light it's def scratched.
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Right, that was my point. Until last night, your inspections didn't include checking the surfaces through a wide range of different illumination angles. As a result, subtle scratches went unnoticed and you don't know when they happened (or even if the phone came with them).
When i say im careful, I'm careful...
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I believe you. But something nevertheless scratched your phone--any idea what it could have been? You and I are both careful with our phones, yet only one of us acquired any scratches. There has to be some explanation for that difference. Figuring out what it is might help us, and others, to avoid scratches in the future.
It almost seems like theres a raised lips right before the glass dipps down.
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Hm, I don't see that on mine. May I ask what kind of screen protector(s) you had been using? If liquid, could it have left a residue? If solid, could the protector itself have scratched the glass that it was in contact with?
Or another possibility: if you used a case initially, could a few sand or grit particles have gotten lodged between the case and the phone? It looks as though the scratches may have been in areas that a case would have contact with. That's one of several reasons that I'd be reluctant to use a case with an all-glass phone.
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Right, that was my point. Until last night, your inspections didn't include checking the surfaces through a wide range of different illumination angles. As a result, subtle scratches went unnoticed and you don't know when they happened (or even if the phone came with them).
I believe you. But something nevertheless scratched your phone--any idea what it could have been? You and I are both careful with our phones, yet only one of us acquired any scratches. There has to be some explanation for that difference. Figuring out what it is might help us, and others, to avoid scratches in the future.
Hm, I don't see that on mine. May I ask what kind of screen protector(s) you had been using? If liquid, could it have left a residue? If solid, could the protector itself have scratched the glass that it was in contact with?
Or another possibility: if you used a case initially, could a few sand or grit particles have gotten lodged between the case and the phone? It looks as though the scratches may have been in areas that a case would have contact with. That's one of several reasons that I'd be reluctant to use a case with an all-glass phone.
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No case or screen protectors since I got this phone last Sunday (Oct 25th) I didn't recall any scratches on my recalled unit so I didn't bother with protecting the replacement. But regardless, I don't recalled a single incident in which would result in these scratches, so they must have happened during light use of the phone, how they happened? I don't know ... but they did .... The glass just seems soft and easily scratch-able. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately it is. And agreed, I've seen scratches come up from case use on my phones before so that is always a concern, but I didn't use a case on this phone, and I never sat the phone down on a hard surface, and never in a pocket with anything else, and the weird isolated scratched areas don't show signs of "pocket damage" ... they came from somewhere I get that, but wherever they came from, they happened with no effort or force.
Inspected my new phone that came in yesterday. Not a single scratch to be found in any light ... Screen protector should be in today so it'll get wrapped before I even use it and we'll try again ... I recommend to anyone who has a Note 7, wrap it up and keep it clean, this issue just may not be avoidable with everyday use.
Is GG5 on the back as well as the front? My rear is scratched only after 2 weeks replacement and general it wears a case. NOT impressed.
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But regardless, I don't recalled a single incident in which would result in these scratches, so they must have happened during light use of the phone
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Well, the phone wasn't scratched by the skin of your hand, the cloth of your pocket, or the piece of paper you rested it on, so there must have been some other contact that you're unaware of. (I'll occasionally notice a small cut or bruise on my arm without recalling what contact was responsible. It happens.)
Regardless, thanks again for the update you posted, and good luck with your new Note 7. If my Note 7 ever suffers the slightest scratch, I will follow your example and post an update here too. So far, a month of heavy, unprotected use has not resulted in any visible imperfection.
I don't get why people are nitpicking this. I get this tone of "maybe you were careful but not careful enough". It sounds like we are discussing handling an egg.
The physics of it are simple and irrefutable, this thing will scratch, there is no way around it. And just because one hasn't scratched yet, or appears that way, doesn't mean it won't.
At this point, regardless of what anyone says or who wants to debate, it's safe to say yhe phone WILL scratch with normal, even careful use. I was one who thought "well the people with scratches must be abusing their phones" but as i type this on a scuffed, yet coddled Note7 I stand corrected. It doesn't affect my love for the phone but it should be noted that it WILL scratch easily regardless of how you treat it, i wish it didn't ... but it does. And I don't think it's batched based, pretty sure maybe even if you dont see any scratches there are probably some on your phone as I found by badically doing a microscopic forensic look at my phone the other day, the shinyness of thr glass seems to hide a lot of imperfections.
Rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Premium, good weight in the hand, no mismatched edges to catch. Love the texture difference between the volume rocker and power button.
I would say it feels like top quality materials. One may feel that to touch, it resembles the back of the second generation iPhone.
It feels full/dense and no creaking comes from it as it doesn't flex.
The weight is just perfect t for the size. I am thrilled by it.
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My only issue with the feel is how slippery it is I can barely hang out to it
The phone feels great overall. Can be a bit slippery, but after using a nexus 6, not hard to manage.
The rear glass on the other hand is scratched quite a bit after about a week of use and has a small crack near the corner opposite the flash. The phone has not been dropped or used in any harsh elements. Debating sending it back and ordering another as a small crack usually turns into a big one eventually.
This thing is really well built. I have the black pixel and all I have is a screen protector on it. I've dropped and banged this thing against other solid things quite a few times already and this thing doesn't have a scratch on it. I'm actually really shocked.
I find this phone to be solid. The build quality is very good. I had the Samsung S7 prior to this and I felt I could never carry that phone without a case. This phone I feel I can get away without a case but it is slippery so I have it in a case but I may just get a skin in the future.
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it is a useless phone. The materials used were good but that is about it. When it comes to hiring engineers they have a interesting/challenging interview process and when it comes to their products it is like their engineers just sit and fart. What a shame on this pixel phone. But really impressive hardware which has nothing to do with google (it is qualcomm's 820 reference design).
1. The center of gravity is on the upper half of the phone where it has a natural tendency to flip outside the hand
Something like a buttered toast always falls face down. I am not sure why the phone manufacturers do not make it a point to have the center of gravity to the lower-middle side of the phone.
2. There is a lot of bezel. The amount of bezel at the bottom looks ugly
3. The cables that come with the phone are c-type on both ends. They should have been USB on one side and c-type on the other. If that was the case I could have simply used the USB wall sockets I have installed in the house already
4. The adapter takes only c-type.
5. And the phone is very slippery. Try holding it with dry hands and in cold weather. Guaranteed for a drop.
6. They couldn't have made an L-shaped adapter? The adapter when plugged into the wall occupies more space horizontally. So, if the wall plug is behind a night stand or a bed or furniture, forget about plugging it there. The furniture needs to be moved just because of this one adapter.
Good:
1. Only the software and hardware specs are good. But do most of the phones these days come with the same specs
The front is glass, with a lot of space above and below the screen. The spec sheet lists 2.5D Corning Gorilla Glass 4, but curvature at the edges is extremely slight. The back and sides are a single metal frame except for a large patch of glass on the upper third of the rear.
Very, very premium feel. I love the cold metal feel on the back and the texture on the power button, in particular.
10 out of 10. Most premium feeling phone I've had.
Amazing feel in the hands. Little cold if you pick it up after leaving it on a table for a while because of the materials used, but a cool phone is better than one that overheats.