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I have been looking into some different Bluetooth purchases. One being a pair of Bluetooth headphones I would like to use them on my EVO my question is how bad does the audio sound using the sense Bluetooth programing I have seen some rumors of it being horrendous. also would like to use the Belkin Bluetooth audio line in adapter in my car have a good car stereo I don't want to change it to something different (avic900bt). I just don't want to get all set up and hate the quality. I would like to stick with a sense rom. right now I am using warm 2.2rls 5
thanks guys

I have the motorola s 9 hd, and they sound really good.and also I have the avic-120 and it sound good, too

dmcgrath009 said:
I have been looking into some different Bluetooth purchases. One being a pair of Bluetooth headphones I would like to use them on my EVO my question is how bad does the audio sound using the sense Bluetooth programing I have seen some rumors of it being horrendous. also would like to use the Belkin Bluetooth audio line in adapter in my car have a good car stereo I don't want to change it to something different (avic900bt). I just don't want to get all set up and hate the quality. I would like to stick with a sense rom. right now I am using warm 2.2rls 5
thanks guys
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It's horrible. I don't understand how anyone can say otherwise. My Voyager 855 certainly isn't audiophile quality even with a good source, but when I tried out CM, it was noticeably better. With the Sense BT stack, cymbals sound like someone pissing on tin foil.

The Bluetooth stack in virtually all Sense ROMs is absolute crap. CyanogenMod fixed it a long time ago (and actually uses a proper stack that's fully FOSS). Plus CM has a DSP equalizer built in that you can use.
The quality certainly doesn't match that of wired headphones (and probably never will), but for bluetooth, it's fairly good. Noticeably better than the same pair of headphones connected to a dongle on a Windows 7 computer.

grab a voyager pro plus headset; the sound will amaze you for a bt headset..

galaxy S3 to car stereo????

I'm looking to buy a new car stereo, and I'm basically treating it as an accessory for my Galaxy SIII. I'm open to any brands within a reasonable price range.
What's the best way to listen to the music that is on my Galaxy SIII right now, wirelessly without losing sound quality? I know that I can just use an audio input jack, but is there any other way? I heard that yo lose a lot of audio quality using bluetooh.
I guess what I'm saying, is there any technology like Allshare that lets me stream high quality audio to a car stereo?

I use Bluetooth everyday, with no noticeable loss in sound quality. However, it is dependant on your stereo too. I have a cheap Jenson Double-Din Nav Unit.

Bluetooth is going to be your only wireless method that will not sound like total crap , but USB would be the best quality, but dont think you can do this like an ipod can. Not sure what is needed to make these phones work like that , charge and play music thru the USB direct to stereo is nice. Id like to ditch my ipod and just use my S3, but for now it just works better.

If you connect your S2 using UMS (using "SGS3 Easy UMS" app), you'll be able to listen to music on the S3 with the highest quality possible.
Not all bluetooth-enable car stereos allow for music playback. Mine, for example, only allows for voice calls and voice commands (such as S-Voice).

Simonetti2011 said:
If you connect your S2 using UMS (using "SGS3 Easy UMS" app), you'll be able to listen to music on the S3 with the highest quality possible.
Not all bluetooth-enable car stereos allow for music playback. Mine, for example, only allows for voice calls and voice commands (such as S-Voice).
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But does the easy UMS work on the AT&T S3?

Ive used Sony bluetooth stereos in my car for the past 3 years. Ive heard that some other manufacturers either dumb down the feature or make you buy a dongle, but the Sony comes ready to go, no extra dongle needed.
I bought the latest when my older model was stolen. Its the BT-3900u (120 on Amazon) and I honestly cant tell the difference between CD and streaming.
Pros: 3 preamps (front, rear, sub), decent equalizer, galaxy connects instantly w/ no hiccups, change face color, Bluetooth gain control
cons: radio reception is OK (could be my antenna), built in mic causes a lot of background noise for the other person (my car is pretty loud). But it does have an option to route your own wired mic.
I honestly stopped using CD's and the radio now that all my music syncs up instantly.

I would like to know what car stereos would work with the GS3 straight out of the box. I'm sure there are a few that would allow us to plug in via USB and be able to listen to our music while charging the phone.
Can anyone confirm any models that work like this?
the_buzz_man

Pioneer makes a nice head unit called the appradio that is double din, and has usb and bluetoooth, if you use the usb, and the pioneer app that goes with it, it basicly turns the double din screen into a second touchscreen display for your phone.
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My brother has this one and works quite well. It is discontinued at crutchfield, but they have a new model I believe?
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-l1Wo0r1ecjA/p_020CZ501/Clarion-CZ501.html
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Bluetooth is the way to go, excellent quality and you cna amp it with awesome beats or DSP mgr and if you is power amp, then you can equalize it further
In addition, the automation with tasker is awesome ( Sync Bluetooth > Start Player > and then close app when no Bluetooth etc )

I have two decks a pioneer dvd2300 double din with the bluetooth add on its worked the best i can use bluetooth and change songs from the deck directly and even control pandora once installed. Before i use to have a kenwood single din it was hd942u worked through usb it was fast n automatically scanned for music which was awesome.
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I bought a Dual from walmart for $90. I just like you didn't want to spend too much money. for the price, not bad at all. bluetooth streaming music and movies is pretty cool. no quality distortions at all. also has a front aux in and USB port.

what about this?
http://www.amazon.com/FlexSMART-Tra...3582945&sr=8-1&keywords=gogroove+flexsmart+x2
i know it's not a deck. but it's relatively cheap, you can use it in another car, lots of positive reviews on amazon, and i've seen reviews on youtube and the sound came out alright even through a youtube video.

If you car has an Aux-In already, you can use these to add bluetooth functionality for both music streaming & handsfree calling.
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Techn...343559054&sr=8-1&keywords=liquidaux+bluetooth
http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Li..._1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1285936657&sr=8-1

would a radio transmitter app work?

i dont think you can connect it to the stereo via USB since the S3 has MTP and not USM unless you root it and use the app as stated a few posts ago. can anyone confirm this?

kl25 said:
what about this?
<link removed as I'm too new>
i know it's not a deck. but it's relatively cheap, you can use it in another car, lots of positive reviews on amazon, and i've seen reviews on youtube and the sound came out alright even through a youtube video.
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FM transmitter is one of the worst connection methods you can use. The sound quality is ALWAYS bad.

I absolutely hate aftermarket decks, I use my motorola bluetooth box on long trips, but there is definitely quality loss over the FM transmitter. I have an aux jack for short trips, I really wish I had an aux cord that had buttons like the headphones do, just so I wouldn't have to look at the phone to change songs or anything.

I have a Verizon GS3 and a Galaxy Tab 7.7 - both support apt-X which is the newer, higher quality bluetooth format. If you can find a head unit that supports apt-X (i don't know if any are out, yet), you'd be golden.
As of now, the only way to get apt-X streaming into your car would be to get an adapter like this: Samsung HS3000 and plug it into your auxiliary input of your stereo.
Another thing you can do (and this is actually my setup in my Mazda) is to get a head unit that supports iPod/iPhone audio AND controls w/ a dock connector. There are cheap bluetooth to 30-pin dock connectors (see dealextreme) that will let your bluetooth phone connect to any iPod dock and play the audio wirelessly, but the added advantage is if the head unit has iPod track navigation controls, it can pass those controls to the phone during playback through the bluetooth as well. This will let you control the tracks playing on the phone from the stereo -the double bonus is if your car has integrated steering controls for the head unit. When my phone/tablet is connected and playing audio this way, I can move next/previous tracks from my steering wheel. I'm hoping some manufacturer comes out with a 30-pin bluetooth dock adapter w/ apt-X as well.
Finally, if you choose to connect your phone directly to a aux in but also have it on your charger you're probably going to get a ground loop humming sound. Get one of these: PAC Ground Isolator for 3.5 jacks to get rid of that annoying hum.

http://mobile.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL029038&pathId=139&page=1
Works perfect the best 100$ you can spend
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Anything Comparable to AppRadio 2?

I am in the market for a new head unit since the one I have has blue tooth but only phone functions. No audio streaming. Which was fine when I had the iPhone 4s because the radio actually had a Pandora Radio App. But now that I moved on to bigger and better things, Galaxy SIII I need a better head unit. My needs are really basic. 2 pre-outs (prefer 4 volts but will manage with 2 volts) Bluetooth Audio Streaming and the capability of controlling my SIII through the unit. The only head unit I found so far that does all that is the Pioneer AppRadio 2 (SPH-DA100)
Any suggestions?
Pioneer AppRadio 2

intelinside83 said:
I am in the market for a new head unit since the one I have has blue tooth but only phone functions. No audio streaming. Which was fine when I had the iPhone 4s because the radio actually had a Pandora Radio App. But now that I moved on to bigger and better things, Galaxy SIII I need a better head unit. My needs are really basic. 2 pre-outs (prefer 4 volts but will manage with 2 volts) Bluetooth Audio Streaming and the capability of controlling my SIII through the unit. The only head unit I found so far that does all that is the Pioneer AppRadio 2 (SPH-DA100)
Any suggestions?
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i just ordered an appradio 2 earlier this week because i couldnt find anything that i liked that would do pretty much what you want to do

Maybe check out the Parrot Asteroid...

I can't believe a high end radio like the AppRadio2 does not have a dedicated subwoofer output. You only get four channels. Front & rear or Front & sub.

AppRadio2
I just bought the AppRadio 2 last week and haven't installed it yet so I've been playing aound with it in the house.
Initial thoughts were that I was going to be able to play videos, run apps all from my phone natively. I was wrong. Out of the box AppRadio2 comes with iPod connector with usb (for charging iPod/iPhone and for upgrading firmware on unit) for Android it has a HDMI connector you have to buy your own HDMI cable, MHL/slimport adaptor.
You also have to download appradio from play store along with a handful of compatible apps. Once that's done, you can finally connect your phone to the head unit via HDMI adaptor and bluetooth.
I tested out most of the free apps and was left unimpressed. Also the response time of the head unit was laggy at times (swiping screens).
I haven't used ARLiberator yet but I have done a lot of research and that app is what will probably keep me from returning the AppRadio 2.
A couple downsides are:
-no dedicated sub preout
-preouts are 2V rather than 4V
-no USB support for USB drives (***big disappointment since I have a GNEX and N4 coming in the mail-no external storage)
-no CD/DVD
-non detachable face (I work in high theft area)
I'm pretty sure thar there will be more android/smartphone compatible headunits in 2013 but I just couldn't wait. I have a 10+ year old Alpine cd player that is all but dead.
I did come across a new Sony headunit though XAV701HD. The interface is a lot better than Appradio2's and it has DVD/CD and USBx2 support! The only thing is that it uses mirrorlink which as of now only the s3 supports.
So for now I guess I'll keep the AppRadio 2 since I got it for a good price, and see what 2013 has to offer

What you are looking for is the Alpine ICS X8..... Sadly it's not out in the US yet
Sent from my GS3

Just checked Crutchfield and it's up for pre order... no ship date yet though
Check it out here

CZ Eddie said:
I can't believe a high end radio like the AppRadio2 does not have a dedicated subwoofer output. You only get four channels. Front & rear or Front & sub.
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You can use a High/Low Level converter and connect it to the rear speakers. That's what I did =D

[Review] HTC Bluetooth 3.0 Stereo Headphones (BH- S600) Uncompressed Audio

Hello guys​
The purpose of this post is to share with you guys my recent purchase The HTC Bluettoh 3.0 Stereo Headphones. These are the official ones from HTC made for our phones. Those with Sense 4.0 and above and phones with Bluetooth 3.0 and above. What makes these different from other bluetooth heaphones is the fact that they use Bluetooth 3.0 which is a huge advancement meant from Bluetooth v2.1 Enhanced Data Rate. This newer version allows more data to be transferred at a time (wider bandwidth) and HTC has taken advantage of this by providing uncompressed audio with these bluetooth heaphones. The sound quality is so much better. v3.0 is more battery efficient as well than the previous generation. The bluetooth headphone clip allows you to use your own headphones as well!
I have made video review below
Pictures of the device and part of the manual are attached to this post for your viewing pleasure​
Official Product Link: http://www.htc.com/au/accessories/htc-bluetooth-stereo-headphones/#overview​

actually, it's not uncompressed audio. It uses Apt-x codec from CSR which is a cd-quality audio compression technology. There aren't many phones that actually have that codec. HTC One series and galaxy s3 are the ones that pops into my mind. Others (the ones that don't have apt-x) will sound like Bluetooth 2.1 edr no mather which version of Bluetooth they use.
Here is a list of headphones with aptx codec support, you'll see HTC is listed there too.
http://www.csr.com/technology-solut...wered-by-csr-aptx/bluetooth-stereo-headphones

Are you suggesting that these sound crisp and clean? I only ask because I stream music via bluetooth quite a bit whether it be to my Yamaha receiver or my head unit in my truck and because of the low bitpool setting in Sense I get a lot of crackling on the high end. AOSP this is not an issue. Only in Sense.
So my question is...How if HTC hasn't fixed the bluetooth bitpool issue in the software can any bluetooth device stream the high quality?

i ordered the ikross bluetooth stereo receiver, they are quite good and much cheaper they go for about 26 dollars
here is a review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6_BCQZkfg8
and here they are on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/css/order-history/ref=gno_yam_yrdrs

Can you use them for jogging and fast walking?

Thanks you very much news, I think his headphones low dive deep, clean and full, flexible and intensity, slow feeling. Good high frequency extension, delicate and supple and housing design is also very good

vegetaleb said:
Can you use them for jogging and fast walking?
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You can actually use any headsets for jogging and especially walking. Just depends how much wire and bulk you are willing to put up with. Personally, I have the LG Tone+ headset. They sound great and dont make you feel like you are tied to something. They are actually a very practical setup. Any way. Those are my thoughts.
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Microphone
Hi,
Is the mic in the headset or is there a mic on the unit as well?
ie could I use a standard headset without a mic and still talk?
Cheers, 0ddball

0ddball said:
Hi,
Is the mic in the headset or is there a mic on the unit as well?
ie could I use a standard headset without a mic and still talk?
Cheers, 0ddball
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The mic is not built in onto the bluetooth device, your earphones will have to have a mic

Ah bummer as I thought. OK thanks for clearing that up!

djan84 said:
actually, it's not uncompressed audio. It uses Apt-x codec from CSR which is a cd-quality audio compression technology. There aren't many phones that actually have that codec. HTC One series and galaxy s3 are the ones that pops into my mind. Others (the ones that don't have apt-x) will sound like Bluetooth 2.1 edr no mather which version of Bluetooth they use.
Here is a list of headphones with aptx codec support, you'll see HTC is listed there too.
http://www.csr.com/technology-solut...wered-by-csr-aptx/bluetooth-stereo-headphones
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it's uncompressed but who cares? it seems those use apt-x lossless codec.
"HTC’s exclusive apt-X lossless digital audio compression technology delivers studio-quality sound"

I picked up one of these on the back of this review, and I have to say, I'm really impressed. I got i it mainly for running with, but I've found myself just using it for everything. In the car, at work, - the battery life is really good, and the drain on the phone really in negligible.
My one complaint... I nearly lost my phone in the gym, cause I left it at the rower I was using, but the range is so good ( around 20m without any loss of audio ) I ended up having to backtrack my whole circuit to find it

I cannot believe they did not include a mic in the clip. It really limits your use of alternative headphones/earphones.

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I cannot believe they did not include a mic in the clip. It really limits your use of alternative headphones/earphones.
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It does have a mic in the clip, can't post a link so check the HTC website for details.

I have this as well. I have to say that for a BT tranceiver, it impresses me so much. My only complain is that I can't really monitor the battery capacity in this thing. But at least it will notify me with that robotic female voice that my "battery is low". However, battery life is good.
I use it when I'm travelling because I don't really like brandishing my One in public transport (it's very unsafe to show off your phone here in Indonesia) as it allows me to control my music wirelessly.
I pair this to some other devices as well, like my laptop so that I can use my hifi system to amplify my laptop using aux cable. I don't use the aux cable directly because it's too far to where I usually sit and enjoy my movies.
All in all, I am satisfied with this product.

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It does have a mic in the clip, can't post a link so check the HTC website for details.
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Because of that sentence, I have bought this device. But NO, it doesn't have the mic in the clip.
Now I am sad and angry I didn't go for a Sony or Samsung.
I have a MW600 at home, which worked perfectly, but last month the clip lost the suspension thingy so I cannot clip it to my shirt anymore... And that's why I decided to buy this one.
But bummer, you cannot use any headphones. You must pick the ones that have the microphone on. And hence, the device is not useful for other stuff, like in-car use and such...
Otherwise, sound is good, can connect to my mac and phone at the same time and can charge it while using it. Really a shame HTC did not put a mic on the clip...
I had these other bluetooth headphones in mind:
1) Sony SBH20
2) Samsung HS3000
and of course
3) Sony MW600

Good info sudkcoce. I am also thinking of buying this but do not like the earbuds. I need something that will stay on my head. Earbuds to me have always been a fad/gimmick. Can you post if any other aftermarket headphones with mics and preferably ear clips or dome speakers that are compatible with this bluetooth device? Maybe if you have others from friends try them and let us know. For now will be considering the other devices you listed for my HTC One.

I am pretty sure any headphone with a built in mike will work.
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paulfrankie said:
Good info sudkcoce. I am also thinking of buying this but do not like the earbuds. I need something that will stay on my head. Earbuds to me have always been a fad/gimmick. Can you post if any other aftermarket headphones with mics and preferably ear clips or dome speakers that are compatible with this bluetooth device? Maybe if you have others from friends try them and let us know. For now will be considering the other devices you listed for my HTC One.
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I have waterproof earphones by Monster designed for iOS and they work perfectly with the bluetooth clip. Any Headphones/ earphones will work with this as long as they have a 3.5mm jack. Of those headphones have a play pause button on the centre it will work as well. The other buttons may not

I've had these things since February(a nice gift from HTC) and I love it. I don't use it as headphones though when I'm home. I have an aux cable going into my surround sound and I have hooked the Bluetooth dongle onto that Aux cable. Streaming the music crisply, clearly, and perfectly through my system.
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Portable speaker ?

Im looking to buy a wireless portable (mid range portable and too tiny) speaker. Which one do you guys suggest in terms of sound quality (ofcourse), pricing and latest connectivity options (Wi-Fi, NFC)?
Found three selections: Bose Soundtouch 20, Sonos Play 5 and Sony SRSX7

I have personal experience with two models: X-mini II and JBL Micro wireless. I didn't own them, but they were sold as iphone accessories where I used to work. Both are worth the money, X-mini is louder and with a little bit distorted sound/bass when at full volume, while the JBL is somewhat more cultivated and clearer.
But overall the X-mini was sold 3:1 vs the JBL. You can also chain the x-minis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWzd4aGaZ9A

klincharov said:
I have personal experience with two models: X-mini II and JBL Micro wireless. I didn't own them, but they were sold as iphone accessories where I used to work. Both are worth the money, X-mini is louder and with a little bit distorted sound/bass when at full volume, while the JBL is somewhat more cultivated and clearer.
But overall the X-mini was sold 3:1 vs the JBL. You can also chain the x-minis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWzd4aGaZ9A
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Thanks. I checked them out but they are smaller than what im looking for.
The size of Bose Soundtouch 20 is fine by me. Im not looking for a pocket portable, but more like something that can sit on your pc desk or bed table without occupying much space and looking modern.But it seems the three devices i mentioned in earlier post are the only ones with all latest connectivity options. The JBL authentics L8 looks great too, but pricey. When i went shopping i saw a lot of portable speakers which i couldn't recognize so i had to come home and check online what the heck is going on in the portable speaker world. It seems most portable speakers are bluetooth ones only, and does not have Wifi, NFC, etc.

So you are ideally looking for an optionally battery powered docking station with speakers

I use creative wifi spekar only 1 sec lag

MindlessRanger said:
I use creative wifi spekar only 1 sec lag
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Which one is it ? http://www.creative.com/letsgowireless/products.aspx
I see they only support bluetooth and not wifi.

The Libratone live also good enough as the Bose Soundtouch 20.
And then i came across the sound bar types which comes with wifi, DLNA, etc, and i wonder how is the sound performance in comparison.