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App2Sd Causes phone to not boot. HELP!!!

Hi I just rooted my phone using a method from another website ( not sure if i can post the website as that is xda-developers policy.. )
It rooted fine and it loaded back and i could use my phone.
Then I try to install app sd, i follow a guide to the letter, and once it rebooted it just gets stuck at the htc white screen. I've been waiting for 10 minutes and nothing loads. Is it bricked? I can still go into bootloader or whatever but how do i get it back? Is it the SD card?
I'm using a 8GB sdhc card Kingston Class 4. If it has to do with anything. What do i do? I really need to use the phone!!!

What rom did you install?
Does the rom you have not already have Apps2SD integrated? (check thread title of rom and change log notes to find out)
Are you able to get into Recovery Mode?
If you did not flash a Froyo only (not Sense UI) rom, did you forget to partition your SD card before rebooting?
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i install whatever rom that came with the package of rooting from android.modaco.com. I don't knwo what it is but i'm guessing its some 2.1 rom.
No i think the roms was used jsut for rom, so i dont' think app2 sd is integrated. I am able to get into recovery mode, but don't know what to do it from there.
I actually partition the sd card and did the ext2 to et 3 and after it finished i rebooted and it just get stuck on this screen. What i did now is install a custom rom on it and it boots. However I want to load back just the htc rom that came with the root package and add Apps 2 SD

On MoDaCo, there should be an option to download a custom 2.1 based rom that already includes A2SD in the downloads section. Try downloading that rom, in Recovery Mode, do a full wipe, flash the rom, and while still in Recovery Mode, partition your SD card with 0 MB swap, ext2 size of 512 MB, rest to FAT32. Then convert ext2 to ext3.
If you still have the same issue, report back here bud.
Just make sure it is a 2.1 based rom that you are attempting to flash with A2SD. If it is a 2.2 Froyo based rom without Sense, then you do not partition your SD card at all as it is setup differently.

does your sd card have an ext partition? if your using an apps2sd with a dalvik cache script, your fone wont boot without a ext partiton because your fone has nowhere to put the dalvik cache lol

Thank to the two of you for your help. I was planning to use 2.1 as I only wanted a2Sd because i ran out of space very easily installing apps and games.
Anyways i wipe and install the official froyo sense one from adamg from here in the desire forums. Now i'm confused, he saids he has google's app2 sd, legacy app2 sd, and davlik cache app2 sd..
Can u guys explain the differences? What is app 2 sd+ ??
I understand google's one is the one that comes with froyo that it only works if the developers of the games and apps code it in, or else it wont' move to the sd card. Legacy is the one which uses the ext3 partition ( which i still have btw.. ) but i don't know how to use that one even though its already preinstalled. I have no idea about davlik cache except that i had to clear it before i install app2sd.. and i'm in the blind for a2sd+ ...
Thanks

I read somewhere minimum class of sd should be 6 for apps2sd. Also had a freeze once, i panicked then took battery out, went into recovery and just re-installed ROM and it worked after that.

@Supergluey basically, a2sd just moves the apps, while a2sd+ also moves the dalvik cache.
The Froyo implementation is pretty lame (only moves apps if allowed by creator) and is best ignored.
If your rom comes with the legacy a2sd (not Froyo native) then you can partition your sd card in Recovery Mode by setting a 0 MB swap size, an ext2 size (dedicated for apps) of 512 MB, and remaining space to the FAT32 file system (mass storage space).
You then convert ext2 to ext3 while still in Recovery Mode.
Explanation about how Dalvik cache works: when Android OS starts up, the DalvikVM looks through all of your applications (.apk files) and frameworks, and builds a tree of dependencies. It uses this dependency tree to optimise the bytecode for every application and stores it in the Dalvik cache. The applications are then run using the optimised bytecode. This is why when you install a new ROM, sometimes it takes a very long time to boot for the first time. Any time an application (or framework library) changes, it's re-optimised and the cache is updated.
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MasDroid said:
@Supergluey basically, a2sd just moves the apps, while a2sd+ also moves the dalvik cache.
The Froyo implementation is pretty lame (only moves apps if allowed by creator) and is best ignored.
If your rom comes with the legacy a2sd (not Froyo native) then you can partition your sd card in Recovery Mode by setting a 0 MB swap size, an ext2 size (dedicated for apps) of 512 MB, and remaining space to the FAT32 file system (mass storage space).
You then convert ext2 to ext3 while still in Recovery Mode.
Explanation about how Dalvik cache works: when Android OS starts up, the DalvikVM looks through all of your applications (.apk files) and frameworks, and builds a tree of dependencies. It uses this dependency tree to optimise the bytecode for every application and stores it in the Dalvik cache. The applications are then run using the optimised bytecode. This is why when you install a new ROM, sometimes it takes a very long time to boot for the first time. Any time an application (or framework library) changes, it's re-optimised and the cache is updated.
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Thanks MasDroid. I get the differences now. But i have a problem. So like my last post I install the official froyo rom that is posted on here by AdamG. I loved it cause its based off some hong kong test rom and i'm in HK However, he added more features to it such as the apps to sd (not the froyo one ) and davlik cache app to sd.
I formatted my 8GB with the swap file , fat 32 and ext 2 converted to ext 3 respectively to the sizes you stated. However whenever i install apps it still goes to the internal memory! I tried different partitions and it still doesn't' work! I tried wiping everything and re-flashing the rom and it doesn't' work. I also tried forcing it to install to external but all apps just fails to install. I tried reformat and remove all partitions and re partition again once through recovery mode and another through the android sdk and using adb. Is it the sd card problem?
When i first rooted my phone, with defrost and then later changing to devillian. It worked. Apps were installed on sd card but i changed roms because i found out it was dragging the internal memory as well. So i would still gt the "I have no space" message. What can I be doing wrong?

ruisinho said:
I read somewhere minimum class of sd should be 6 for apps2sd.
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Definitely not true.
I use Apps2SD on my 16gb Sandisk Class 2 card and never have any lag whatsoever.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Definitely not true.
I use Apps2SD on my 16gb Sandisk Class 2 card and never have any lag whatsoever.
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16 gig Sandisk class 2, absolutely no difference or lag comparing to internal memory

Trouble with MIUI Apps2sd+

I'm having trouble getting apps2sd+ to work on the MIUI rom. I've used rom manager to partition the card and when i go to sd settings its showing the partition as apps2sd+ but when i download apps it seems to be using the partiton and the phone memory? Also when i go on titanium backup it doesnt show the partition at all???

steslatt said:
I'm having trouble getting apps2sd+ to work on the MIUI rom. I've used rom manager to partition the card and when i go to sd settings its showing the partition as apps2sd+ but when i download apps it seems to be using the partiton and the phone memory? Also when i go on titanium backup it doesnt show the partition at all???
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Try using an app from the Android Marketplace called Quick System Info to check that is it working correctly. Your internal memory may still go down as only portions of the apps (i.e. data) you install are sent to the sd card's ext partition.

The partition worked but its saving all the app on the phone memory as well as the sd card

steslatt said:
The partition worked but its saving all the app on the phone memory as well as the sd card
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Have you tried clearing the Dalvik cache? Might help some.

Yes i've tried everything, wiped dalvik, factory reset, formated sd card again and partitioned it again. Going to try another rom now. Shame i quite liked the MIUI

steslatt said:
The partition worked but its saving all the app on the phone memory as well as the sd card
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Thats impossible, the way apps2sd works, it moves the /data/app/ directory to the SD-EXT... as masdroid explaned, the reason your internal storage is decreasing is apps2sd dosent move the data/data directory, this remains on the internal storage, some apps use a large amount of space in /data/data/ some use none at all. but from what i have read, your apps2sd is working pefectly

I am having the same issue. When I use 'File Manager', I see a folder sd-ext but there is nothing in there.
I've already went through Systems >> Settings >> Manage Applications and moved all my apps (the ones allowed) onto the SD. I don't know where or what folder it's actually being saved in though.
I used ROM Manager to partition the SD card. I even went through 'Terminal' to do the commands that would push it to the ext3 but I'm still not understanding what I'm doing wrong.
I'm on the latest version of MIUI. Can someone please help me?

The MIUI rom has a2sd desactivate by default, you have to put -> a2sd reinstall in a terminal then reboot and finish with -> a2sd cachesd
EDIT: First you have to write -> su

You need to turn it on yourself
Sorry for my bad English!!

anthack01 said:
The MIUI rom has a2sd desactivate by default, you have to put -> a2sd reinstall in a terminal then reboot and finish with -> a2sd cachesd
EDIT: First you have to write -> su
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Hi anthack01, thanks for the response. So that means any apps that I have moved to the SD already (based on the cupcake process) will have to be redownload again?
Also, if I upgrade to a newer version of MIUI, I would have to do this process via Terminal each and every time?

luvtommie said:
Hi anthack01, thanks for the response. So that means any apps that I have moved to the SD already (based on the cupcake process) will have to be redownload again?
Also, if I upgrade to a newer version of MIUI, I would have to do this process via Terminal each and every time?
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try miui d2ext version rom.......
m using it with 1gb card partitions n its showing 1gb internal memory .. so i can install lots of application with few hd games too.... if any problem u can pvt me.....

luvtommie said:
Hi anthack01, thanks for the response. So that means any apps that I have moved to the SD already (based on the cupcake process) will have to be redownload again?
Also, if I upgrade to a newer version of MIUI, I would have to do this process via Terminal each and every time?
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The apps you moved to SD card (FAT32-partition) should be moved back on internal storage.
No, you don't have to do that (as far as I remember).

Ext3

Hi.
I'm in a dilemma here trying to.fimd out what is wrong. I formatted and partitioned my 4gb SD card to work with App2sd+ by making 3gb Fat32 Primary and First Partition and 1gb EXT3 Primary, however whenever apps are installed they tend to use the First partitioned instead of the reserved 1gb partition I had created.
Maybe I have done something wrong, since I am quite new to App2SD and how it works, but know the basics. I would appreciate your help.
Thank you
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You must flash a rom with a2sd+ support. It's different from the built in support for a2sd, which can be found in the stock froyo roms and above.

Flash Darktremor Apps2SD for Desire in recovery and then use A2SDGUI from the Market to change settings as you like. After that do not manually move apps around. They should me installed to the internal storage which then will be your sd-card.

I failed to metion that I am using Teppic's 'Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5)' ROM with the optional addon 'App2SD+' so I presume it should work fine
However, I am thinking it has something to do with the app I have installed 'Move2SD Enabler' which I think is moving everything to the External Fat32 partition'.
Can someone confirm?

Deeco7 said:
I failed to metion that I am using Teppic's 'Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5)' ROM with the optional addon 'App2SD+' so I presume it should work fine
However, I am thinking it has something to do with the app I have installed 'Move2SD Enabler' which I think is moving everything to the External Fat32 partition'.
Can someone confirm?
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yes it could be, i wondering the same things about the app2sd with my first flash with custom's rom and ap2sd+ (i uninstalled this app).
to be shure that your sript ap2sd+ is working fine you can brouwse your phone and go to system/sd you should see 4 folders... app + app-private +lost-found and dalvik-cache (for the last folder it's assumed that your script got the little "+" which means that is moving the dalvik cache to your ext partition)
hope this would help you

Another idea to see if a2sd+ is working like it should is to download Quick System Info. When you launch it you should see a line with a2sd info. If it is there then a2sd+ is ok, and you can see how much of you ext3 1GB partition is used.

I used the rom manager to make the partitions, then I format them with MiniTool.Partition.Wizard.Professional.v5.2-REDT when needed, you can resize them as needed ... you can download it at rlslog.net

Wow... Is it really time for another "how does x type of app to sd solution work?"
It really is quite simple:
Froyo a2sd uses a folder on the fat32 and the system controls, where the apps is installed, and where they are moved to.
a2sd+/legacy a2sd uses the ext-partition by symlinking the folders /data/apps and /data/dalvik-cache to this partition. This solution is transparent to the system itself, so as far as the android system is aware the apps is installed internal. This means you can use widgets from apps on this partition, and it also means that your apps will allways be installed here, so you cannot move them to internal. You will also not see the extra space, your apps will just not take up as much space when installed.
If you like you have done move the apps to sd through the froyo settings, you actually just move them from the ext-partition to the folder on the fat32-partition.

[Q] Internal Memory Full after Reboot; All Apps on SD

My HTC Desire was restarted due to low battery long after I restored some backups (app + data) with Titanium Backup. When I booted back into Android, it showed 1MB of free internal space! So thought it might be the 4 downloads I had, so I deleted all of them and Android then said it had 61MB of free internal space.
Then I rebooted but now I only have 216KB free space!!
This is the second time it's happened and I've tried everything including SD Maid and every single app is linked to the SD card's 2nd partition. This didn't happen when Installing apps from the Play store or from Easy Installer; and Avast finds no problems.
It keeps saying "Unfortunately Google Play Store has stopped" etc. and the phone is very slow including booting.
I'm not willing to re-flash everything again and manually install each app, especially as the first time re-flashing, Clockwork Recovery said it couldn't mount the SD card, then after formatting, Windows 7 wouldn't recognize it, then neither would (after formatting using gparted)!
I'm only using Link2SD on ICS for HTC Desire 0.4.4.4.1, default HBoot, Clockworkmod Recovery Touch 5.8.0.2, aGPS and default homescreen with no scripts.
This is extremely irritating, can anyone help please?

Using any scripts like A2SD?

Cool story bro. Please post more relevant information so peeps here can help you out. How about letting us know your hboot information, rom you are currently using, scripts etc. ;-)

I'm only using Link2SD on ICS for HTC Desire 0.4.4.4.1, default HBoot, Clockworkmod Recovery Touch 5.8.0.2, aGPS and default homescreen with no scripts.

DarkIceGB said:
I'm only using Link2SD on ICS for HTC Desire 0.4.4.4.1, default HBoot, Clockworkmod Recovery Touch 5.8.0.2, aGPS and default homescreen with no scripts.
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try stock a2sd then enable it with terminal
Code:
su
a2sd install
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Edit: also DL 5.1, i found 4.4.4.1 SUPER buggy.

Thanks for the help, I've tried the above and it's been booting for 10 minutes now, should I wait for it to finish or is it stuck?
Edit: After 30 minutes of booting, I took the battery out. It now won't go past booting (the animated 'X screen') and it takes ages to get past the 'HTC' screen to the boot screen.
Edit 2: I booted into recovery and cleared all caches and fixed permissions and after booting it doesn't say the memory is full! Thanks for your help!
What else did it move and is the data on the first partition of the SD card or the second and can I remove the SD card safely? Any idea how the internal memory was filled and why there were issues with the SD card or if they might appear again? It's a new Samsung Extreme Speed Class 10 16GB Micro SDHC card.

I can't move apps from the SD card to the SD card's second partition or to the internal memory. It says, "pkg: /mnt/asec/appnamehere/pkg.apk Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_INSUFFICIENT_STORAGE]".
The internal memory is empty, the SD card has 8GB of free space and the 2nd partition has 1GB free out of 2GB.

Just upgraded to 5.1 and it's the same as above. Any ideas?

Anyone have any idea?

What A2SD-option did you pick in Aroma Installer? I cannot see any Link2SD option there.

Sorry I meant I chose the built-in a2sd but I used this app called Link2SD as I have a second partition on my sd card for apps.

DarkIceGB said:
Sorry I meant I chose the built-in a2sd but I used this app called Link2SD as I have a second partition on my sd card for apps.
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How have you partitioned your SD? Primary and secondary FAT32 or primary FAT32 and secondary EXT? I've never used Link2SD 'cause i prefer the script way, but i think it works the same way.
If you are using EXT for secondary, i recommend you the 4ext recovery, if you are S-OFF you can install it directly from the phone using the Updater form 4ext.net.
Then I suggest you to do:
A nandroid backup
A backup of your SD data
Repartition you SD using 4ext
Check partition allignment with 4ext
Do a full wipe
Restore your SD's backup
Restore your nandroid backup
Re-install 0.5.1 and select built-in a2sd
In rom use terminal like bortak stated, but say NO to moving appdata (slowed down my phone a lot)
Uninstall Link2SD
This will give you a standard installation for a2sd.
If I were in you, i would format everything (except SD card first partition) and start from scratch with the built-in a2sd method without Link2SD; you'll have to reinstall everything and lose every data (backup with TB if you can), but you are sure to run a rock solid method to "enlarge you space"
If you are on double FAT32... well, i cannot help you there
Bortak, correct me if i ever say stupids things i want to help out and you surely are a master in troubleshooting and point to my errors
I'm actually running BCM 3.0U0 + 3.0U1 update with m2sd (with apps and dalvik on ext), 100% V6 supercharged and ScrollingCache patched... i have to say, in my opinion, it finally surpassed Sandvold ICS!

Thanks a lot for the help, I've followed the steps and everything's working now!
I used 4ext recovery, which appears to be a lot better than clockworkmod, with more useful options. 4etx said that the partitions weren't aligned (which I previously set in clockworkmod) so I wiped everything and made fresh partitions which were perfectly aligned. I'm using 0.5.2 now with a full format.
I had/have fat32 then ext4.
I've noticed that most apps don't appear to be on the SD card though. Any advice?

[Qext4 partition problem

hi everyone,
i just rooted and installed the Cyanogen 7.2.0.1-bravo rom and partitionned my sdcard 16gb to a FAT32 partion and ext4 partition with 1gb.
the problem is the intern memory !! ( lack of space ), idk if i missed something or didn't installed a script ... i have app2sd already installed and i moved the most of the apps to my sdcard but the ext4 partion is not used and can't see it .
so what do i have to do ?
ps: i just istalled a2sdFroyo, but doesn't help or i didn't used it right ...
pls help

when you say "i have app2sd already installed" how have you done it?
how did you partition your sd card, should be done with gparted or 4ext recovery only. if you used something else, backup your sd and repartition.
to maximise space, s-off and change hboot to cm7r2, recommend guides here (read them slowly and several times to help your understanding)
then full wipe, install rom.zip again from scratch
to enable the A2SD, one method is to install an app like S2E which can move apps automatically to sd-ext, no need to 'move to sd'. you can keep dalvik cache on internal, and move it to sd-ext if you still run out of space. internal memory will always go down as stuff builds up on internal (data partition)
whatever rom you use, install an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions in future, that way you can actually see where and how your space is being used

i followed the MiniTool Partition tuto to make partitions and then i installed normaly app2sd
why do i have to reistall the rom again ?

darko1x said:
i followed the MiniTool Partition tuto to make partitions and then i installed normaly app2sd
why do i have to reistall the rom again ?
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do not use minitool, this may be the reason why you cannot use the partition at all.
backup your sd card to pc first, then use gparted, there's a video guide from the link i posted
(make sure you have a nandroid backup, titanium backup of apps and backup contacts to google)
i am advising a full wipe because i don't know how you "installed normally app2sd". if you reinstall the rom from scratch without anything else, there is less chance of things going wrong. using S2E afterwards is easy.
if you want to set up this rom or any rom properly so you don't run out of space, you should understand where all your apks, data and dalvik are stored, and what the different hboot partition tables are. it's all in the guides i linked.

i installed app2sd after i finished with the rom and the partitioning of the sdcard, and it works without any problem
i istalled now S2E and i transfered the apps to the ext folder now i have 140Mb free space and i think it's working now becuase i sync with skype and facebook and i still have the same space in my internal memory ...
what do you think ?

darko1x said:
i installed app2sd after i finished with the rom and the partitioning of the sdcard, and it works without any problem
i istalled now S2E and i transfered the apps to the ext folder now i have 140Mb free space and i think it's working now becuase i sync with skype and facebook and i still have the same space in my internal memory ...
what do you think ?
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if you install something like 'diskusage' you can KNOW if it is working...
i would still recommend s-off and change hboot to cm7r2. this will use space more efficiently, and you can install many more apps. just read the guides i linked. you can still learn a lot more

Hi. I think its working, from 1Gb i still have 700 Gb in green color.
Am i right ?
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write down your free sd-ext space then install an app from the play store. Check the space again. If it had gone down your sorted.

darko1x said:
Hi. I think its working, from 1Gb i still have 700 Gb in green color.
Am i right ?
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looks like it is working
with diskusage you can just zoom in on all your partitions including sd-ext, so if you see your app apk's there the script is working.
open diskusage again and select /system. i'm willing to bet that you're still on stock hboot. you will see a lot of free space on system partition, which is useless...
therefore still recommend (for the last time) to s-off and change to cm7r2 hboot. you seem to keep ignoring this and the guides...