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Official: AT&T Samsung Focus S has 16GB of non-expandable storage

So there you go, 2nd gen phones are officially a failure and yes you can call me a hater I don't care.
Microsoft killed the Zunes so they should have made it mandatory that every OEM offers at least one 32GB+ model. If you want people to ditch their PMP give them a good reason to or they might end up ditching it for an iPhone.
http://www.wpcentral.com/it-s-official-samsung-focus-s-has-16gb-non-expandable-storage
Edit: Let me just temper that by saying they're a failure mostly for us who already have a 1st gen phone. I guess for 1st time buyers there is some incentive but not so much (no extra storage, no microSD support, no hardware keyboard)

Ah well. Looks like I'll just hang onto my original Focus. Too bad about this.
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MartyLK said:
Ah well. Looks like I'll just hang onto my original Focus. Too bad a out this.
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Same here, I will stay with my OMNIA 7.
For 1st gen device owners it´s not very interesting to buy a 2nd gen device.
In my eyes a marketing failure...
Personally I don´t need more storage than 16GB and who is using permanently the FFC ?
I always used only simple voip calls without video and besides I absolutely like my OMNIA 7.

Yet another wp7 phone with disappointing specs and insufficient storage.
Finally I am not really surprised if WP7 is failing.
People who love media and need decent storage will probably move to Android or iOS.

I don't care because I'm waiting for the Nokia dual core 4+" Amoled screen LTE Tango phone that will hopefully be here before Q2 of next year.... And if it isn't, I'll just get an Apollo phone in Q4 of 2012 because my focus is still doing a great job and I can wait till then if necessary.
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I think you mean apollo? Lol. Color me surprised about this phone. These oems are not clueless though. They simply don't care since the old hardware they're using is cheap ad hell and majority of their sales are on android. Samsung sales more bada devices than wp7 at this point. These devices are failing heard at what was supposed be their strongest feature (doubling up as a Zune HD).

I don't see how they expect the devices to sell as a Zune HD replacement, or as a device that is competitive to any of the current high-end smart phones when the OEMs provide sub-par specs on every new WP device. Count me as another one that is sticking with my Focus... and I would have upgraded to the Focus S if they had put a decent amount of local storage in. I'm constantly shuffling things on/off my Focus with 24 GB now, so I'm not going with a smaller storage device.
They don't really have any excuses for the skimping either, as the current GS2 comes in 16 or 32 GB local storage. They've put a cheaper single-core processor in already (and I understand the reasons there), but the Focus S is selling for the same price as a GS2... so there's no excuse to also cut back local storage. This is quite disappointing, as I had already ruled out Nokia's current offerings because of the lack of FFC and small screen size.
I don't want to wait until generation 3 of WP before getting a new device, but the next possibility looks to be the Nokia 900 sometime in the first half of next year. MS really needs to get the OEMs in hand and have them put out devices that have competitive hardware to the other platforms (iPhone 4S, Samsung GS2, Nokia N9, etc.), or they need to start producing their own devices ala XBox. They can't do much worse than the OEMs, as every new device has been a disappointment in one area or another. At this point, I'd be happy if we were getting clones of Android device hardware.

contable said:
Same here, I will stay with my OMNIA 7.
For 1st gen device owners it´s not very interesting to buy a 2nd gen device.
In my eyes a marketing failure...
Personally I don´t need more storage than 16GB and who is using permanently the FFC ?
I always used only simple voip calls without video and besides I absolutely like my OMNIA 7.
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If my current Focus was limited to 16GB like the Focus S is, it would be nearly full. And that's without videos. Fortunately my current Focus has the ability of expanding up to 40GB. That's worth a lot to me.
I think I will overlook any new WP7 hardware until MS gets real with it.

MartyLK said:
If my current Focus was limited to 16GB like the Focus S is, it would be nearly full. And that's without videos. Fortunately my current Focus has the ability of expanding up to 40GB. That's worth a lot to me.
I think I will overlook any new WP7 hardware until MS gets real with it.
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You replaced the internal SD-Card, right ?
I thought this is only possible for HD7 users...
In that case it would be very stupid if you buy a 2nd gen device...

Why anybody would need more than 16gb is beyond me. I have pretty much every app that I can think of installed and I still have 5 GB left.
No need to put pictures and songs because you can easily have those on the cloud.
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contable said:
You replaced the internal SD-Card, right ?
I thought this is only possible for HD7 users...
In that case it would be very stupid if you buy a 2nd gen device...
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Actually, unless the AT&T version of the HD7 is different, the Focus is immediately accessable to switch cards out, whereas the HD7 is not and requires a warranty voiding disassembly. The Focus doesn't come with a card and requires users to buy a card separately. But the access to the slot is as open and easy as any Android hardware. A 32GB card is my next option, which will give me 40GB with the internal 8GB.
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Why anybody would need more than 16gb is beyond me. I have pretty much every app that I can think of installed and I still have 5 GB left.
No need to put pictures and songs because you can easily have those on the cloud.
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Unfortunately for AT&T users, the Cloud is not a viable option because of the limited data service. I would never use it anyway for media. And 2GB of data each month is too small to constantly be streaming music and videos with.

karan1203 said:
Why anybody would need more than 16gb is beyond me. I have pretty much every app that I can think of installed and I still have 5 GB left.
No need to put pictures and songs because you can easily have those on the cloud.
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this is exactly my situation. Couldn't agree more.
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Lol people still boasting the cloud as a storage replacement. What if you only have a 200-500 mb data plan?
Thebcloud is useful, very useful.
The cloud is useless as a replacement for true on-device storage.
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No one on this planet should be using a smartphone with 500 MB. You are inviting disaster of biblical proportions.

Yea 5GB of data at least
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The only way I would feel comfortable streaming is with unlimited data.

5GB is pretty tough to run out while streaming music unless you are doing it hours without end. T-mobile has a 10GB option and you'd still be paying less and with better speeds than AT&T.
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bmstrong said:
No one on this planet should be using a smartphone with 500 MB. You are inviting disaster of biblical proportions.
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In the UK only one maybe two carriers offer over 500MB. Even if that wasn't the case, you don't get 100% coverage so you can't rely exclusively on the cloud. Not to mention scenarios where you travel or damage to your battery. I don't like calling people stupid but some should seriously think about what they say (not addressing you, just some previous posters). Everything on the cloud, really?

Until the industry can produce a battery that can last 40 to 50 hours while streaming on data or WiFi, the Cloud will never be a viable alternative to internal storage for media playing. As it is right now, my iPhone 4 gets 40 hours for music playing and 10 hours for video playing. My Focus gets probably at least 20 hours music playing. Music playing combined with streaming would knock it down to a few hours at best.

When I stream it has little effect on my battery
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white nexus and 32gb gsm version announced.

Not sure if it's been posted or not but its due to be released on 6 February in white .
http://www.eurodroid.com/2012/01/05/white-galaxy-nexus-announced-launching-feb-2nd/
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Yes, it's already been posted
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Most definitely has been posted already several times

Of freakin' course as soon as I give in and go with a 16GB version, they release the 32GB.

What do you people put on your phones? The most I've ever used is 3GB...
With the ability to keep your music in the cloud, or the use of Spotify (in my case) I just don't understand how you could fill up 16Gb of storage on a phone, let alone 32GB.

sn0warmy said:
What do you people put on your phones? The most I've ever used is 3GB...
With the ability to keep your music in the cloud, or the use of Spotify (in my case) I just don't understand how you could fill up 16Gb of storage on a phone, let alone 32GB.
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Pretty much seems to be the specific set of people that like to have all of their music in one place (don't wanna spend the data streaming, or don't have fast enough connection), or people that load lots of videos on the device.

I guess people dump heaps of music and photos on their phone and a lot of useless apps. I usually take shots with the camera and upload to google+ then remove them off my phone.
Saves on camera space. I think I have only used 4gb Max on my nexus.
If Nexus came out for Telstra 4G (GSM) I would upgrade in a second.
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sn0warmy said:
What do you people put on your phones? The most I've ever used is 3GB...
With the ability to keep your music in the cloud, or the use of Spotify (in my case) I just don't understand how you could fill up 16Gb of storage on a phone, let alone 32GB.
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Data in Canada is freaking expensive

ordered nexus 7-- a100 for sale soon

ok I just ordered my nexus 7 16gb it will be 275 delivers with a 20$ Google play credit.
main reasons. ips display. and charges over usb those are my only gripes abou the a100 the display just wanst up to snuff compared to my original ipad. i bought ti see if i preferred android to apple and i stopped using my ipad completely.
is my a100 worth anything now-- rooted cwm unlooked loader. 32 gb card

Well with the Nexus 7 available for pre order I don't see our used A100's selling anywhere close to $200.
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Jaygo7 said:
Well with the Nexus 7 available for pre order I don't see our used A100's selling anywhere close to $200.
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They can be had locally for 180-200 without an SD card or any extras, however I see that dropping VERY fast when the nexus 7 actually releases. If you're planning on selling it, put it up NOW, and ask for 200, and take the first offer that comes close, say 180.
Plus its starting to become known what issues they have, including faulty EMMC hardware that will brick itself for no real reason.
I've been considering selling mine, but we've been through alot together, not sure I want to let it go, and if I did, what I would replace it with...

I'm considering this too. The nexus 7 seems like a sweeter deal, having Jelly Bean, a better CPU and GPU, for $199. I would be happy to sell for about $150 and then just spend $50 for the nexus. Doesn't seem like a bad deal.
Our iconia doesn't have the great screen either, and I would like a better screen...

The only downside with the Nexus 7 is it doesn't have the external SD slot. You won't be able to store much on the 8GB internal storage. The OS itself with apps will take about 2GB leaving with 6GB. A decent game's data will take up 1GB to 2GB. The storage gets drained pretty quickly.

I pre-ordered the Nexus 7 as well but I'm not even going to consider selling my A100. The A100 is the tablet I use around the house or when I go outside, but with the Nexus 7, the A100 will just replace my desktop table's tablet which is my Viewsonic G Tablet. I'll probably just give the G Tablet to my parents or something

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The only downside with the Nexus 7 is it doesn't have the external SD slot. You won't be able to store much on the 8GB internal storage. The OS itself with apps will take about 2GB leaving with 6GB. A decent game's data will take up 1GB to 2GB. The storage gets drained pretty quickly.
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It has otg so you can use flash drives on it, its not as limited as it seems at first.
Tapatalked from my A100 - CM9 unsecured tester.

pio_masaki said:
It has otg so you can use flash drives on it, its not as limited as it seems at first.
Tapatalked from my A100 - CM9 unsecured tester.
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I was lurking the forums because I'm debating finding a cheap Iconia instead of getting a Nexus 7 (HDMI and expandable memory would be awesome for emulators and hd video), but I feel I should tell you that the Nexus 7 does NOT support storage devices OTG. The conclusion we came to on reddit is that FAT32 requires a license to Microsoft and they didn't want to pay it for whatever reason, I don't know if that's something you could work around or not with a good dev community. Same with MHL (which is unsupported out of the box), I've heard a decent dev community could get it working but after hearing the same about the Xperia Play, I'm not counting on it.

colbyfink said:
I was lurking the forums because I'm debating finding a cheap Iconia instead of getting a Nexus 7 (HDMI and expandable memory would be awesome for emulators and hd video), but I feel I should tell you that the Nexus 7 does NOT support storage devices OTG. The conclusion we came to on reddit is that FAT32 requires a license to Microsoft and they didn't want to pay it for whatever reason, I don't know if that's something you could work around or not with a good dev community. Same with MHL (which is unsupported out of the box), I've heard a decent dev community could get it working but after hearing the same about the Xperia Play, I'm not counting on it.
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And why is otg limited to fat32? I don't recall ever saying fat32 either, but I could always be wrong about this, so don't take the wrong way, just wondering why it would require only fat32. And I'm sorry, but anything out of Reddit I take with a grain of salt.
Tapatalked from my A100 - CM9 unsecured tester.

Nexus 7 was looking pretty good compared to the A100. Lighter weight (important to me as an ebook reader), better display and longer battery life.
However, the lack of microSD slot is an issue because I like carrying around a lot of media and don't want some dongle hanging off the tablet. And I just bought a 27" monitor that has dual HDMI and it looks great connected to the A100, something else the Nexus can't do. (I also sometimes connect the A100 to the 50" flat screen via HDMI.)
Instead of paying $50 more for an extra 8gb of internal storage, I'd pay that to get my microSD slot and HDMI out back. I would also miss things like a real rotation lock button, but that one is not the deal-breaker the others are.
So no trade-in for me yet. And if I'm going to add a second tablet for other purposes, it would more likely just be a bigger one. Like an iPad.
Of course, if I didn't already own an A100, the Nexus 7 does look like the hottest deal on the market. This month.

That's pretty much where I stand now. The a100 has its strong points, the nexus 7 also has its strong points. If I didn't already have my a100 I would probably get the nexus. I was considering selling the a100 to maybe get a nexus, however I've decided its not worth it for the nexus. If I'm going to unload the a100 it'll be for a 10", maybe the a500 or something like that. If I come across a great deal and get the nexus I'll give the a100 to the wife lol. Same way my mom has a modded kindle fire.
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pio_masaki said:
And why is otg limited to fat32? I don't recall ever saying fat32 either, but I could always be wrong about this, so don't take the wrong way, just wondering why it would require only fat32. And I'm sorry, but anything out of Reddit I take with a grain of salt.
Tapatalked from my A100 - CM9 unsecured tester.
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It's been confirmed to work, only after rooting, and only for transferring files. So you can't watch videos stored on the card, nut you can move them and watch them from the internal storage. Not sure about music and photos.
The android community on Reddit is a little better than you're implying. A lot of xda members use it too, actually. It's the source for a lot of news and initial discussion of that news too. It's a pretty decent community if you can get past preconceived notions of Reddit as a whole.
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colbyfink said:
It's been confirmed to work, only after rooting, and only for transferring files. So you can't watch videos stored on the card, nut you can move them and watch them from the internal storage. Not sure about music and photos.
The android community on Reddit is a little better than you're implying. A lot of xda members use it too, actually. It's the source for a lot of news and initial discussion of that news too. It's a pretty decent community if you can get past preconceived notions of Reddit as a whole.
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Thanks for the updated info, its good to know at least some kind of external storage is available.
I didn't mean to offend anyone with my Reddit comment, as with all internet forums there's good and bad, however its just my experience to not immediately trust Reddit info. That being said, I don't immediately trust xda info either, I do my own research.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.

pio_masaki said:
Thanks for the updated info, its good to know at least some kind of external storage is available.
I didn't mean to offend anyone with my Reddit comment, as with all internet forums there's good and bad, however its just my experience to not immediately trust Reddit info. That being said, I don't immediately trust xda info either, I do my own research.
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You're fine, man. No worries. There's a lot of info over on the Nexus 7 xda forums too, Im lurking over there as well so that info may have come from there. Regardless, I can't wait for the thing to release.

I'm also going to head off of the A100. I'm not sure exactly what tablet I will get, but I'm selling my A100 8gb (with all accessories) for $200 on Kijiji.
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danifunker said:
I'm also going to head off of the A100. I'm not sure exactly what tablet I will get, but I'm selling my A100 8gb (with all accessories) for $200 on Kijiji.
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Good luck on your new device, and of course, remember to come back and let us know how it goes

FYI About A100 Prices Dropping
Just got a notice from eBay that A100 8G (on HC - NOT on ICS) is now available for $140+ free shipping. It is manufacturer refurbished.
I am tempted to buy for kids.

my acer a100 is being sold for $100 to my brother the day my nexus 7 arrives, I have the 16gb version on pre-order. the screen upgrade was the reason for the move also since the nexus is thinner I should be able to mount it in a dockable position in the car where the acer was mounted behind the stereo bezel.

As of now, I am likely to be moving on to the Nexus 7 as well.
I was holding out. My reason: The Nexus 7 does not have a microSD slot, and I really like using my 64 GB microSD cards in my devices.
This rationale kept me in the A100 camp-- until my A100 corrupted its 64 GB microsd card!
To me, selling stuff is a headache. So, I'll likely just give my A100 & accessories away. I don't know any forum members personally, and don't know if any are in my area. So, some kid who does something that shows he/she has a good head on their shoulders, or some older person who expresses a desire to stay up with the times will just get an A100 handed to them.
Should I leave this forum, thanks a lot to everyone here.

mightydr said:
As of now, I am likely to be moving on to the Nexus 7 as well.
I was holding out. My reason: The Nexus 7 does not have a microSD slot, and I really like using my 64 GB microSD cards in my devices.
This rationale kept me in the A100 camp-- until my A100 corrupted its 64 GB microsd card!
To me, selling stuff is a headache. So, I'll likely just give my A100 & accessories away. I don't know any forum members personally, and don't know if any are in my area. So, some kid who does something that shows he/she has a good head on their shoulders, or some older person who expresses a desire to stay up with the times will just get an A100 handed to them.
Should I leave this forum, thanks a lot to everyone here.
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You should never even talk about leaving here doc. What a great thing for you to do. Some college student would love to have this. Very generous of you.

Nexus 4 anyone?

Anyone considering selling their t989 and switching to the Nexus 4? With the N4 only $300, and our phones still going for $250-$300 on eBay, I see no reason not to.

I am, I don't like this phone. Not sure if I am taking that route though. I can't even get it to sell on Craigslist. Mines perfect condition, no scratches anywhere not even on the screen and kept in the D30 case. :/ oh well, any Nexus sure beats this phone.

I have mine listed on Ebay right now actually at 260 and it has a bid. Includes case and 8 gig card. I'll be happy to shell out roughly 100 extra for the 16GB nexus 4 after it sells. I didn't think to Sim unlock mine, but seems like the Sim unlocked ones are selling for a bit more if you're planning on listing it.
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I'm counting the days will the 13th

Wifi calling wont work on the N4 for those of us that need it
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noodles2224 said:
I am, I don't like this phone. Not sure if I am taking that route though. I can't even get it to sell on Craigslist. Mines perfect condition, no scratches anywhere not even on the screen and kept in the D30 case. :/ oh well, any Nexus sure beats this phone.
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Enjoy that whompign 16 gigs of storage and no sd slot.
Im waiting for the One X+ to hit my carrier personally.

I really dont think its a big upgrade or a upgrade at all the only thing that makes it a advantage is having 4.2 now thats all and well be getting 4.2 roms soon and i dont like it has no sd card slot on n4

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I really dont think its a big upgrade or a upgrade at all the only thing that makes it a advantage is having 4.2 now thats all and well be getting 4.2 roms soon and i dont like it has no sd card slot on n4
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Agreed that I won't be noticing that big of an upgrade, but no offense to the Devs for this device, generally nexus phones have tons more support in development.
I've had this phone since launch and this phone and the Devs just keeps getting better and better. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
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Funny you brought this up,
I used to own a HTC Sensation 4G. I got it for $180 and it was only 2 month old. I used it for 4 months and realized a few issues with it.
1. Sense sucks (I hate it and Sense on the Sensation is buggy)
2. Getting it S-OFF is difficult and I almost bricked it attempting so I never tried it again.
3. Charger is in a dumb place (on left side of phone)
4. HTC would not confirm a Jellybean update (made me feel like it wasn't getting it)
So I decided to part with it. I always wanted a Nexus for the stock Google experience. I wanted a LG Nexus 4 but didn;t want to wait nor pay $300+ for a phone with no expandable memory. But one day I was browsing craigslist hoping to find a used Galaxy Nexus ( Hard to find in my area ) and I found a guy selling a S2. He had it listed for $300 new in box. I thought to myself "That's not a bad deal since T-mobile wants $450 retail". So I set up a meeting with the guy. The phone was used but hardly. No scratches and all the wrapping on it minus the screen protector. It was a 9.9/10 only because it had been used. So I low balled the guy hardcore offering him $200 cash. HE TOOK IT! So now I own a Clean ESN, still under warranty, like brand new, Galaxy S2. I am glad I made this decision.:laugh: And plus Samsung already confired it would get Jellybean. I am happy

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Wifi calling wont work on the N4 for those of us that need it
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That's strange really cuz I use SKYPE on my n7. We must be able to get wifi calling working too...
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I'm seriously thinking about the Nexus 4. I love the pure Android N7, which increases my temptation (makes me want an N10 too!). The lack of TMO wi-fi calling is a problem though, as I live behind a bit of granite, so my call reception sucks at home. I work from home and my mobile is my primary work phone. Gotta be able to make and receive calls.
I've just been looking at cell signal boosters and what S2s & MyTouch 4Gs are going for on eBay. Might pass the S2 to my daughter and sell her crappy MT4G. Then I'll probably switch to a TMO Value Plan and save some monthly $$. I think I'm going to try a cell booster this week. If that works, I'll probably go for the N4 one way or another.

I'm dumping this t989 asap. I can still sell it for 200-300 beans easy. The Nexus 4 is an upgrade in evey conceivable way. I sold my Nexus S 4g for this phone and I regret it. Can't wait to be aboard the Nexus train again. It's gonna be a great ride.
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Well might as well put my two cents in on this. as i spent today thinking about selling my phone on ebay and buying it as well. But then i realized alot of things about the phone that i dislike that i never knew until i dug deeper. Just a few things, that helped me in my final decision to wait till official jelly bean for sgs2. It will improve our phone quite a bit i believe.
1. no wifi calling, other then some free app that gives you a different phone number... worthless in my eyes.
2. the battery isn't removable, so when the battery dies so does your phone.
3. the glass backing is extreme fragile one slight drop and its cracked, front is durable.
4. heard poor battery performance, i know this is still debatable (firmware, usage) but, with no option to switch it out... risky.
5. washy colors on the display, even tho the resolution is very great.
6. no sd card expansion, i mean who are you apple?

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That's strange really cuz I use SKYPE on my n7. We must be able to get wifi calling working too...
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Skype and wifi calling are way different...
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The nexus 4 looks like a great phone and the price is right too.. But no expandable storage is a downer..looks like another nexus phone that I won't be buying

My Galaxy S II is up on eBay now as well. I loved the phone for the year I had it (longest I've ever kept any phone) and it's even more awesome now that I put CM10 on it, but I'm going Nexus only from now on. Can't beat that $350 price tag. While I would prefer a 32GB version, I've never gotten close to using 16GB on any of my phones.
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I'm dumping this t989 asap. I can still sell it for 200-300 beans easy. The Nexus 4 is an upgrade in evey conceivable way. I sold my Nexus S 4g for this phone and I regret it. Can't wait to be aboard the Nexus train again. It's gonna be a great ride.
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Yup same here.
I think everyone who goes from a Nexus device to one that's locked down with carrier bloat ends up regretting that decision.
It'll be amazing getting updates as soon as they're out again. Not to mention the crazy dev support it'll have. This phone will make a great paperweight/desk ornament or backup in case I break another phone, lol.
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Enjoy that whompign 16 gigs of storage and no sd slot.
Im waiting for the One X+ to hit my carrier personally.
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The lack of an SD slot isn't an issue for me. All my music is on GMusic, and I don't really store anything on my phone but ROMs and ROM related things... so 16GB will be plenty. What does everyone store on their phones that needs so much space anyway? Even if I wanted to store my entire music collection, that's 150GB+... cloud storage sort of gets rid of the need for that. With 16GB, you can even store a few seasons of TV shows... so again, what are you guys doing with your phones? Torrenting?

Already sold mine for 250 on craigslist.can't wait for the 13th. Tho im stuck using this mytouch till then
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the N4 loos really nice. but I think since I will be sticking with t-mobile (especially since it was working fine during and after Sandy), I rather go with the Galaxy Note 2 as it will be good for at least 1 year and not to mention the software can be upgraded to use the tmobile LTE when it goes live.

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Yup same here.
I think everyone who goes from a Nexus device to one that's locked down with carrier bloat ends up regretting that decision.
It'll be amazing getting updates as soon as they're out again. Not to mention the crazy dev support it'll have. This phone will make a great paperweight/desk ornament or backup in case I break another phone, lol.
The lack of an SD slot isn't an issue for me. All my music is on GMusic, and I don't really store anything on my phone but ROMs and ROM related things... so 16GB will be plenty. What does everyone store on their phones that needs so much space anyway? Even if I wanted to store my entire music collection, that's 150GB+... cloud storage sort of gets rid of the need for that. With 16GB, you can even store a few seasons of TV shows... so again, what are you guys doing with your phones? Torrenting?
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I guess the price of the nexus justifies the lack of SD...but i store alot of music/work stuff on my phone. A nandroid backup is 2 gigs on its own.
I could probably get by on a nexus 4, my carrier(telus) is dead silent about it though, and theyre CDMA...so i dont even think I can buy one for telus from google.

Please just make a nexus with great battery and sd slot

Maybe its just me but the only things I want now in a phone are a huge battery (ala razr maxxx), expandable memory (16GB with no sd slot is a joke in 2012 with so much hd video and mp3s being twice the size they used to be), and some up to date google software. I dont need a quad core phone or more than 2GB of ram or 1080p resolution on anything smaller than a tablet. My galaxy nexus is still plenty powerful enough to do what I need it to now if only it could last all day and let me throw on 20GB of music.
I would love to see a version of the S4 or something that has no touch wiz and gets updates right from google.

We gotta dreamer over here.
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Battery technology is the same as its been for almost a decade. All they do is add mah. That's why batteries universally suck.
Sd is the past. It's slower than nand and just adds a fairly useless port to the phone. Hate to break the to you but neither of your requests are happening.

Pepper67 said:
Maybe its just me but the only things I want now in a phone are a huge battery (ala razr maxxx), expandable memory (16GB with no sd slot is a joke in 2012 with so much hd video and mp3s being twice the size they used to be), and some up to date google software. I dont need a quad core phone or more than 2GB of ram or 1080p resolution on anything smaller than a tablet. My galaxy nexus is still plenty powerful enough to do what I need it to now if only it could last all day and let me throw on 20GB of music.
I would love to see a version of the S4 or something that has no touch wiz and gets updates right from google.
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Totally agree, one for me too!
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SD card slot isn't gonna happen, because Google wants you to use their online content services rather than fill an SD card with your own stuff. That's why they're selling the N4 for so cheap (in some countries...).

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SD card slot isn't gonna happen, because Google wants you to use their online content services rather than fill an SD card with your own stuff. That's why they're selling the N4 for so cheap (in some countries...).
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thats not the reason.......
they said it is because it can be confusing to the every day user....where are pictures being saved? where are documents going? and i guess i can see that. i just wish they would let us choose to be "confused" or not.
but FWIW, i am completely content with my 32GB gnex...and would actually be ok with 16gb version as well as i have about 21GB free space. as long as i have unlimited data, i am OK with 16GB on a phone. its a little different on a tablt though, as i like watching videos on them more than i do the phone.
as for the big battery, its coming. just wait. although current phones are starting to be pretty good on battery. the Gnex is pretty bad, but even the S3 almost doubles our battery life.

I've been under the impression a large part of it is the costs of paying MS licensing fees for SD tech.
I've got unlimited data so with the exception if the few times I have no signal, the cloud works just fine for me.
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I completely agree on this post. I just got two nexi and sold them both on eBay because I couldn't put my 16GB card in that has 14GB of music on it.
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thats not the reason.......
they said it is because it can be confusing to the every day user....where are pictures being saved? where are documents going? and i guess i can see that. i just wish they would let us choose to be "confused" or not.
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Sure, there are also issues with data being split between internal and external storage, but if you think the Play Store is not a factor at all you are delusional. Why do you think Google only offers the N4 with the rather pathetic storage options of 8 and 16 GB? They should have gone with at least 16/32, but they didn't, and I'm very certain that wasn't just a matter of cost.

Honestly my biggest issue isnt that I dont have storage, but my carrier is giving me less data to use. Something has to give one way or another. Either we need to store things on our phone (movies music tv) or we can stream it. We cant have none the storage and none the data from the carriers the equation simply doesnt work. Personally I would rather stream all my content except most content streaming source's quality isnt good enough. If I want to listen to music from grooveshark I dont want some half assed mp3 rip; I want flac.
Naturally battery life is going to suck, although ive been able to make it bearable with the battery upgrade, a decent rom ( i run Xenon) and franco/lean kernel. Sadly this only makes it bearable though and thats spending how much time and effort right out of the box to make it that? total BS.

Otg
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+1 SD card
I would just like an SD card so that when I'm flashing ROMs and totally bork my Nexus up, I can recover from the external SD card. The other day during a flash something went wrong and erased my backup images and backup ROM zips. I couldn't connect via ADB to push ROMs or use ODIN recovery. An SD card would've allowed me to recover in a few minutes vs a few hours. This especially makes sense, since a lot of developers use the Nexus devices. It would allow them to recover more easily or boot test ROMs from an external SD card.

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I would just like an SD card so that when I'm flashing ROMs and totally bork my Nexus up, I can recover from the external SD card. The other day during a flash something went wrong and erased my backup images and backup ROM zips. I couldn't connect via ADB to push ROMs or use ODIN recovery. An SD card would've allowed me to recover in a few minutes vs a few hours. This especially makes sense, since a lot of developers use the Nexus devices. It would allow them to recover more easily or boot test ROMs from an external SD card.
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Developers and users who know how their device was meant to be recovered dont use Odin. They use fastboot.
People have to realize, for all that the device is, it is a Google device first than it is a Sammy device.
One more thing, if you couldn't use adb while in recovery, you didn't do it right. 100% sure.
To recover a Nexus, there's no need, AT ALL, for a external sdcard.
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Battery technology is the same as its been for almost a decade. All they do is add mah. That's why batteries universally suck.
Sd is the past. It's slower than nand and just adds a fairly useless port to the phone. Hate to break the to you but neither of your requests are happening.
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Ive been wondering about batteries for a while, seems like theyre long over do for a serious update.

I don't understand why people feel the need to carry 20gb of music with them everywhere they go. You obviously won't even listen to anywhere near that amount of music in a day unless you keep it on the whole day, highly doubting that. Not trying to be rude but can someone who keeps that much music on their phone try to show me their point of view?
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I don't understand why people feel the need to carry 20gb of music with them everywhere they go. You obviously won't even listen to anywhere near that amount of music in a day unless you keep it on the whole day, highly doubting that. Not trying to be rude but can someone who keeps that much music on their phone try to show me their point of view?
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People are hoarders when it comes to data. That's the short answer.

msavic6 said:
I don't understand why people feel the need to carry 20gb of music with them everywhere they go. You obviously won't even listen to anywhere near that amount of music in a day unless you keep it on the whole day, highly doubting that. Not trying to be rude but can someone who keeps that much music on their phone try to show me their point of view?
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Thank you.
Same with movies.
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Never going to happen
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SD cards... old technology man. Get up to date. Is cloud storage now. And huge data with prepaid how this phone is to be used since it is unlocked. The best carrier with the best deal. Use the cloud top steam your stuff. Only thing that needs to be fixed is Google drive to stream movies. At that, if you root and install flash you can use desktop site and stream your movies.

I would love to have an SD card. The cloud sucks. When u don't have fast internet in the area ur in, when trying to access pictures or videos from the cloud. Forget about it. SD cards are way better then the cloud imo. I can't store all my games data in the cloud. I have like 10 games I bought but I can't install them because they are about 2gbs a piece. Plus I still have some music, HD movies and photos. So if Google isn't going to give us an SD card. Which I know they won't. At least give us an option for a 64gb, 32gb version of the gsm galaxy nexus. I can live with 32 or 64gbs of internal memory. Then I won't need an SD card slot.
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