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OTG cable question

This seemed like an accessories question, so i decided to put it here. Has anyone with an OTG cable tried to use a 360 controller with an emulator? That would be awesome. If someone could try, or if someone HAS tried and know if it works or not could let me know that would be awesome.

I doubt VERY highly that it will work, but I have all the stuff to try it so I will report back in around 10 minutes haha.

aaron1006 said:
I doubt VERY highly that it will work, but I have all the stuff to try it so I will report back in around 10 minutes haha.
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Well in theory it should work because anything thats HID Usb should be supported by otg. Here hopin! haha

For some reason I can't even get my mouse/keyboard to work right now (it has worked before) and unfortunately I'm down to about 5% battery. I'll do further investigation tomorrow.

While you're right that theoretically any USB device can work, you still need the right drivers. The problem is that Android uses a monolithic kernel instead of the standard Linux microkernel. That means you can't simple load the right module when you need it. If you want to use the wireless receiver you'll have to compile your own kernel with the xboxdrv module built in.

nathris said:
While you're right that theoretically any USB device can work, you still need the right drivers. The problem is that Android uses a monolithic kernel instead of the standard Linux microkernel. That means you can't simple load the right module when you need it. If you want to use the wireless receiver you'll have to compile your own kernel with the xboxdrv module built in.
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Nope no wireless reciver. Just the plain old xbox 360 controller, with the usb. Why would I go a round about way of using the wireless receiver instead of just the controller?

HaiKaiDo said:
Nope no wireless reciver. Just the plain old xbox 360 controller, with the usb. Why would I go a round about way of using the wireless receiver instead of just the controller?
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I haven't tried it on my kindle fire, but I have tried it on my xoom. Works fine. I will give it a shot in a few hours when work slows down, but I dont' see why it wouldn't work, so long as the emulator supports gamepads, and the rom/kernel does the usb host stuff.
update: Nope. controller never lights up, looks like it isn't even there. this was using the motorola OTG cable, aokp rom with the 3.0 kernel.

ffttgghh said:
I haven't tried it on my kindle fire, but I have tried it on my xoom. Works fine. I will give it a shot in a few hours when work slows down, but I dont' see why it wouldn't work, so long as the emulator supports gamepads, and the rom/kernel does the usb host stuff.
update: Nope. controller never lights up, looks like it isn't even there. this was using the motorola OTG cable, aokp rom with the 3.0 kernel.
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You do have to use a powered usb hub with it. you did that right?

HaiKaiDo said:
You do have to use a powered usb hub with it. you did that right?
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I didn't on my xoom, and it recognized it, so I didn't think to use one with the fire. I don't have a powered usb hub, so I can't be of any more help.

ffttgghh said:
I didn't on my xoom, and it recognized it, so I didn't think to use one with the fire. I don't have a powered usb hub, so I can't be of any more help.
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yeah the xoom can supply power. the KF cant. Thanks for trying tho

can someone recommend powered usb hub? i have 2 and neither one work. i have tested usb keyboard and mouse w/o hub and all seems good. just need a hub for thumb drive\BT\game controller test.

HaiKaiDo said:
Nope no wireless reciver. Just the plain old xbox 360 controller, with the usb. Why would I go a round about way of using the wireless receiver instead of just the controller?
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Its the same driver...

leroy641 said:
can someone recommend powered usb hub? i have 2 and neither one work. i have tested usb keyboard and mouse w/o hub and all seems good. just need a hub for thumb drive\BT\game controller test.
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005P2BY5I/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2C_SC_dp_1
Is what I just got and it works well.

Any rom that can enable KF using OTG?

Mouse on Arc

I bought this usb adapter with have on one side micro USB and on other standard USB and I tried to connect PC mouse with my phone but the phone didnt reconize that i connect mouse with it.
Can you tell me what to do?

Let me get this right maybe I read wrong are you trying to connect phone to your pc to either transfer files flash roms etc or are you trying to connect a computers mouse to your phone? If its the second one as far as I know you can't connect a mouse to a phone with a usb, phones don't have the software or drivers to do this and to be honest why would you want to.You can on the other hand use your phone over wifi as a mouse to control your pc or even Xbox with the right software many apps in the market for this.

i want to connect pc mouse with my phone and it IS possible. if u dont belive check youtube or google it. Its possible to connect keyboard and controller too.

tallman43 said:
Let me get this right maybe I read wrong are you trying to connect phone to your pc to either transfer files flash roms etc or are you trying to connect a computers mouse to your phone? If its the second one as far as I know you can't connect a mouse to a phone with a usb, phones don't have the software or drivers to do this and to be honest why would you want to.You can on the other hand use your phone over wifi as a mouse to control your pc or even Xbox with the right software many apps in the market for this.
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It is possible. It is called USB On-The-Go.
OP: Does mouse appear on the screen? What firmware and kernel are you using?

im using stock. i dont see and mouse cursor cuz it dont detect that mouse is connected. For USB OTG u need rooted phone and i didnt root it yet. And i noticed that you can burn phones motherboard if u using this for i dont know how long.

hyper200 said:
i want to connect pc mouse with my phone and it IS possible. if u dont belive check youtube or google it. Its possible to connect keyboard and controller too.
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Someguyfromhell said:
It is possible. It is called USB On-The-Go.
Sorry guys! Well thats why I love XDA learn something new everyday:good:
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hyper200 said:
im using stock. i dont see and mouse cursor cuz it dont detect that mouse is connected. For USB OTG u need rooted phone and i didnt root it yet. And i noticed that you can burn phones motherboard if u using this for i dont know how long.
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Incorrect, incorrect.
USB OTG does not require rooted phone. USB OTG is a fully implemented script for SE devices, as it has official support from Sony aswell (*cough* LiveDock *cough*).
Also, mouse only requires minimum amount of power, so there is very small chance of burning your SoC (system-on-chip). If you want to use external HDD, then it would be whole other story, but mouse shouldn't be a problem at all.

AW: Mouse on Arc
My HP Mouse is working without problems with my arc.
Gesendet von meinem Xperia Arc S mit Tapatalk 2

so do i have to unlock bootloader or somthing like that?

hyper200 said:
so do i have to unlock bootloader or somthing like that?
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No. I have two devices, arc s and Neo. Every mouse I tested work, including apple, dell, HP etc. It DOES NOT matter if it is rooted or bootloader unlocked. Sounds like a faulty USB otg cable to me. Or use a different mouse.
If all is working well, you should end up with a mouse+keyboard combo like mine. Thumbdrives require root.
Sent from my soon-to-be bricked Neo V

than i think my usb otg is broken...

XS OTG cable

I am unable to connect my Xperia S with external storage as I brought 3 different otg cables and all of them are not working, Please can anyone tell me where can I find OTG cable that surely works with Xperia S. I m from India

aprilian8 said:
I am unable to connect my Xperia S with external storage as I brought 3 different otg cables and all of them are not working, Please can anyone tell me where can I find OTG cable that surely works with Xperia S. I m from India
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what external storage where you trying to connect? pendrive, harddisk or memorycard?

HP pen drive FAT32 formatted

aprilian8 said:
HP pen drive FAT32 formatted
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what capacity btw?
When you connect a pendrive, usually either of 2 things happen:
1.) shows that external storage is connected, details can be seen in settings>storage, external storage. file access needs to be done using a file manager app.
2.) shows, device power consumption error. meaning, ur pendrive consumes lot of power than the phone can provide. solution to this is to use a new pendrive or thru a externally powered usb hub.

Its of 8GB. The phone doesnt show any sign of connected pen drive and even the external storage option in "storage" is greyed out

thanks
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aprilian8 said:
Its of 8GB. The phone doesnt show any sign of connected pen drive and even the external storage option in "storage" is greyed out
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hmm, I dont c wat is wrong, try another pendrive, prefarably of a different model or brand and of smaller capacity.
else it shud be a problem with the cable.
I had bought a general OTG cable from Ebay

aprilian8 said:
I am unable to connect my Xperia S with external storage as I brought 3 different otg cables and all of them are not working, Please can anyone tell me where can I find OTG cable that surely works with Xperia S. I m from India
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You can use "StickMount" app to mount USB storage , incase your phone is not detecting the USB device. The only issues is that the app needs a rooted device. so if your mobile is rooted then you are good to go.

StickMount isnt helping either

try connecting a usb mouse and/or keyboard..
if it works, try a different pendrive, else then maybe u can blame the OTG cable or ur phone...

I made my own OTG cable using an old regular micro cable that I no longer needed. I believe you need to "jump" pin four to pin five....but you would be best researching it. I recall it being extremely easy to do, but then again I do have years of experience ripping stuff apart and putting it back together.
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Also, I don't think drive size is an issue as I've connected a 2TB full size external hard-drive (the kind with a power brick) and was able to use it just fine. It was NTFS formatted so I did have to use USB OTG Helper to get it working, but it did work with no problems.

[Q] Does the Fire TV support USB storage/powered USB splitters?

Just a quick question for anyone who already received their Fire TV (Mine will be here Wednesday hopefully)
I see that people have had success in getting everything from mice/keyboards/etc working with their Fire TV, but I'm curious if powered USB hubs and external USB drives work as well.
Ultimately I'd like to have something along the lines of a USB keyboard/mouse as well as an XB360 controller, as well as a USB slot that I can throw some media on if I have a friend over who doesn't want to set up their machine/share on my network and we can still watch something through either XBMC or Plex.

TooSlo said:
Just a quick question for anyone who already received their Fire TV (Mine will be here Wednesday hopefully)
I see that people have had success in getting everything from mice/keyboards/etc working with their Fire TV, but I'm curious if powered USB hubs and external USB drives work as well.
Ultimately I'd like to have something along the lines of a USB keyboard/mouse as well as an XB360 controller, as well as a USB slot that I can throw some media on if I have a friend over who doesn't want to set up their machine/share on my network and we can still watch something through either XBMC or Plex.
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I was able to plug in a USB 3 hub, unpowered, and used a keyboard and mouse at the same time.

rooobbbbb said:
I was able to plug in a USB 3 hub, unpowered, and used a keyboard and mouse at the same time.
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With a non powered usb hub I was able to hook up a mouse,keyboard,wired 360 controller. Hopefully that answers your question

What about USB storage? Can you guys read movies files from a flash drive or USB hard drive?
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no drive support yet, hoping someone can figure out how to enable it

movie
Hi
Can we watch some avi mkv mpeg movie on firetv directy on usb key?

saerdryl2 said:
Hi
Can we watch some avi mkv mpeg movie on firetv directy on usb key?
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saerdryl2,
Please take the minimal amount of time to read the responses from others as this has been answered... Most recently right above your post:
screwyluie said:
no drive support yet, hoping someone can figure out how to enable it
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Ordered an Ouya that hasn't arrived yet and considering return/refuse.
Does anyone have any information for the future of FTV USB storage?
ie:
Is it not possible with the current hardware?
Is it a feature that is under development and will likely be enabled in the near future?

i8nt said:
Ordered an Ouya that hasn't arrived yet and considering return/refuse.
Does anyone have any information for the future of FTV USB storage?
ie:
Is it not possible with the current hardware?
Is it a feature that is under development and will likely be enabled in the near future?
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Most likely not a hardware issue, but the software distributed with the device by Amazon does not support it. I think they want you to use their cloud services instead.
Most likely fixable once Root is available, but currently there is no distributed Root available yet. Most likely will see Root available after the device gets 4.43 updates.

Thanks, the hdd is a must have for Mashup's direct download, instead of using a dvr.
Since I got the Ouya on the cheap, will probably keep it for now.

I see the xbmc wiki says usb storage can be enabled with root.
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Confirmed it's working. Just root + sideload StickMount.
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nadimsoze said:
Confirmed it's working. Just root + sideload StickMount.
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So, just to confirm, you are using a USB Hub to get all three USB items? Keyboard/mouse, controller AND external storage?
need to get that last part clear..

Nope. Didn't try that. Just the 2.5" usb 500gb external.
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Vylle said:
So, just to confirm, you are using a USB Hub to get all three USB items? Keyboard/mouse, controller AND external storage?
need to get that last part clear..
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I have a simple 4 port unpowered USB 2.0 hub connected to my Fire TV at all times. In that hub is a 64GB NTFS thumb drive at all times that is mounted via StickMount on boot. When I need to, I plug a USB mouse and keyboard into two of the 3 open USB ports on the hub. Everything works with all 3 devices plugged into the hub. I hope that's the info you're looking for.

fireTVnews.com said:
I have a simple 4 port unpowered USB 2.0 hub connected to my Fire TV at all times. In that hub is a 64GB NTFS thumb drive at all times that is mounted via StickMount on boot. When I need to, I plug a USB mouse and keyboard into two of the 3 open USB ports on the hub. Everything works with all 3 devices plugged into the hub. I hope that's the info you're looking for.
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thanks - this is all i need to know
now to go off to amazon n get one

Which usb hub are you using? I'd like to order one from Amazon, along with a 128GB stick.
fireTVnews.com said:
I have a simple 4 port unpowered USB 2.0 hub connected to my Fire TV at all times. In that hub is a 64GB NTFS thumb drive at all times that is mounted via StickMount on boot. When I need to, I plug a USB mouse and keyboard into two of the 3 open USB ports on the hub. Everything works with all 3 devices plugged into the hub. I hope that's the info you're looking for.
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I don't know if that's disk related, but I have an old LaCia external 2.5" 500Gb HDD. It has a regular USB2 port and an additional 5V in which can be used optionally (if attached to the computer, it works with just the USB).
With the AFTV, I had to use the additional 5V.
A friend of mine is having the same issue with his external HDD, the power from AFTV is not enough

Hi,
I read that Fire TV doesn't support USB storage, but I believe it does although I've not been able to access a drive (plugged in to powered hub) yet. So far using sideloaded es file explorer I can see the USB device and alongside it the drop down button which when clicked seems to unmount the drive. Looking in the dmesg log (familiar to Linux users I'm sure) the kernel loads appropriate USB driver module and the recognises the USB storage the device as /dev/sda with partition sda1. There is also an entry in the list of mount points for /storage/usb, but it seems to point to 'tmp, tmp' which doesn't make much sense to me. It seems to me the only thing missing is automount of the recognised partition, does anyone agree or disagree? Does anyone know a way of mounting on an uprooted device (l'm on the latest update and would prefer not rooting unless unavoidable).

I've been using this one without issue: http://goo.gl/yXFV9o

[Q] Sharing AFTV USB Flash drive (NTFS)

I am trying to share my NTFS formatted USB flash drive connected to my AFTV. I have tried samba server apps but they are limited somewhat. I got Ultimate Server Pro when it was free and was wondering if this is the best choice?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E00C70C/ref=docs-os-doi_0
I am trying to access the usb flash drive from a Windows PC and wanted to treat it like a shared folder.

I don't think USB flash drives are supported (don't quote me, though) .

bruce7373 said:
I don't think USB flash drives are supported (don't quote me, though) .
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They are if you are rooted
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Shinyhead said:
I have tried samba server apps but they are limited somewhat.
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What limitations are you talking about? I use sambadroid and i can access the ftv internal storage and the external usb drive just fine. I get low speeds though using wifi (i haven't tried wired to see if there is a difference).
But it works even after reboot just fine like i said.

collindv said:
They are if you are rooted
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Great! Is Stickmount or equivalent needed?
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bruce7373 said:
Great! Is Stickmount or equivalent needed?
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Yes, you need some way to mount your USB drive. StickMount or USB OTG Helper will do the job. Once the app mounts it, you can remount it to your desired location at boot. See the thread on Link2SD currently on the first page of this forum.

KillerJoeBR said:
What limitations are you talking about? I use sambadroid and i can access the ftv internal storage and the external usb drive just fine. I get low speeds though using wifi (i haven't tried wired to see if there is a difference).
But it works even after reboot just fine like i said.
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Turns out to be the files that are the issue and I had to format the USB as FAT32. I tried other video files and it doesn't have any issues. I am using samba file sharing and enabled keeping wifi awake and I get 2.5MB/s (really cheap USBs from costco)....thru wifi