Hi all,
I have a question. I was looking at gsmarena.com for the note 2's specs and noticed that the LTE version (N7105) has LTE for 700MHz and 2100MHz.
My question is will this work on the Rogers network here in Canada? (Toronto specifically)
From what I've been reading Rogers offers LTE on the 1700/2100 bands. Since the Note 2 (N7105) has the 2100MHz does it mean it'll work or will it need both 1700 AND 2100 to work?
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It will work with one band but you can expect weaker signal and may not work well inside buildings. Normally if both bands are available it will switch to whichever has the better signal. With only one band its unable to do that.
I would recommend waiting for the Rogers note2 if you really want LTE.
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the n7105 should work with rogers as it has the same lte specs as the samsung s3 i747
I try to use a GT-N7100 with Rogers.
The Note II work perfectly except one problem: I can't make a call. Rogers technician keep saying my phone is not unlocked for Rogers Canada. The data portion work correctly at 3G, and even SMS can be sent correctly, but no call can be made by the GT-N7100.
Anyone ever see such a behaviour?
Update:
I'M sorry, this technician has mislead me for 3 days assuring me that my phone was not unlocked.
The test he made finally was with a micro-sim that where valid but not having any more money on it to permit normal call.
That's stupid.
Hi,
I searched whole Galaxy Note 2 Forums for my question but did not get direct answer. My question is
Can I use AT&T Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317) in India and get 3g data as is without making any modification to Bands?
or
Should I enable AWS (TMobile 3g/4g) bands in this phone to use 3G in India.
If anybody is using this phone in India, let me know how / which carrier in India are you using.
thershope said:
Hi,
I searched whole Galaxy Note 2 Forums for my question but did not get direct answer. My question is
Can I use AT&T Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317) in India and get 3g data as is without making any modification to Bands?
or
Should I enable AWS (TMobile 3g/4g) bands in this phone to use 3G in India.
If anybody is using this phone in India, let me know how / which carrier in India are you using.
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Depends what bands your carrier uses. The phone (without the AWS hack) supports 850/900/1900/2100 MHz for 3G.
Product F(RED) said:
Depends what bands your carrier uses. The phone (without the AWS hack) supports 850/900/1900/2100 MHz for 3G.
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I thought it supports only triband for 3g (900MHz being unavailable). Can you please confirm that SGH-i317 supports 900MHz for 3G.
thershope said:
I thought it supports only triband for 3g (900MHz being unavailable). Can you please confirm that SGH-i317 supports 900MHz for 3G.
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I can't confirm that it actually works, other than this screenshot from my i317 (I did the AWS hack, which is why 1700 MHz comes up). GSM carriers in the US use 850/1900 (AT&T) and 1700/1900/2100 (T-Mobile) for 3G. So I can't see if 900 MHz works:
http://db.tt/WTFsWwwa
However, I don't think the phone will show bands that it doesn't support, so it should work. I have a hard time believing the phone is only Tri-Band, when my Galaxy S3 i9300 is quad-band (850/900/1900/2100 MHz) UMTS.
I know that the Verizon version works with 900 MHz because on Samsung's websites, it's quad-band UMTS. Yes, the Verizon version can also do GSM. It comes unlocked as well. You just have to use root and an APN application to add your carrier's APN, or just install a custom ROM that enables the APN menu.
I actually had the exact opposite question. I am planning on buying the Galaxy Note II (N7100) in India and I wanted to know if the 3G facility would work for any GSM provider in the United States?? I wanted to know if all the N7100 models (including the ones in India) are Quad band 3G. If so I guess the AT&T 3G should work as quad band would be compatible with the 850/1900 frequencies used by AT&T. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. I hope to be in the US from September for studies and thus wanted to be sure Id be able to use this phone for 3G there.
garam_masala said:
I actually had the exact opposite question. I am planning on buying the Galaxy Note II (N7100) in India and I wanted to know if the 3G facility would work for any GSM provider in the United States?? I wanted to know if all the N7100 models (including the ones in India) are Quad band 3G. If so I guess the AT&T 3G should work as quad band would be compatible with the 850/1900 frequencies used by AT&T. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. I hope to be in the US from September for studies and thus wanted to be sure Id be able to use this phone for 3G there.
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It works on AT&T 3G. Correct.
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Im using the att note 2 i317 in india on airtel network. Currently on cleanrom MA4 . Speed is decent. I get anywhere between 4 to 8 mbps during good signal
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Thanks for confirming. I was worried that I will miss out on 3g because of this 900MHz.
moinsheriff said:
Im using the att note 2 i317 in india on airtel network. Currently on cleanrom MA4 . Speed is decent. I get anywhere between 4 to 8 mbps during good signal
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thershope said:
Hi,
I searched whole Galaxy Note 2 Forums for my question but did not get direct answer. My question is
Can I use AT&T Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317) in India and get 3g data as is without making any modification to Bands?
or
Should I enable AWS (TMobile 3g/4g) bands in this phone to use 3G in India.
If anybody is using this phone in India, let me know how / which carrier in India are you using.
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I travel India frequently and have US (AT&T) and India (Vodaphone) SIM, I just swap the sim and everything works great. I am on cleanrom 4.8. No issues and great Internet speed in Mumbai. Even I was able to do RDC without any issues.
Thanks.
nughtynick said:
I travel India frequently and have US (AT&T) and India (Vodaphone) SIM, I just swap the sim and everything works great. I am on cleanrom 4.8. No issues and great Internet speed in Mumbai. Even I was able to do RDC without any issues.
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ATT Note 2 in India
Guys i am using ATT Note 2 in India and i am not able to pick up 3G frequencies here.. My phone is unlocked from ATT but i still only get to use 2G,. I would appreciate if anyone can help me here. How do i get to 3G here.? i am using a vodafone sim.
Hi there,
Can anyone confirm for sure and tested the following question:
How many bands for GSM, HSDPA and LTE does the T-Mobile Galaxy S4 (M919) have? Are they the same bands as the International S4 LTE (I9505)?
Based on the wikipedia page for Samsung Galaxy S4, the model I9505 has more LTE bands than the T-Mobile M919 version, is that completely true and technically proven?
Most of the websites state that the M919 and the I9505 has the same bands for all GSM, HSDPA and LTE.
I appreciate if someone can lead me to the ultimate answer.
Thanks.
Tmobile uses AWS for 4g LTE which requires 2100/1700 frequency. The GT-i9505 only supports 2100mhz i believe, which is not enough.
I think the GT-i9505 supports one of the several frequencies that Tmobile uses for HDSPA, so HDSPA coverage may be a bit spotty with the phone. This was referenced off the top of my head, but I had done some research online about this before as I had similar questions as you.
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Here's an article on the frequencies that just came out that may help you OP.
tikoracer said:
Hi there,
Can anyone confirm for sure and tested the following question:
How many bands for GSM, HSDPA and LTE does the T-Mobile Galaxy S4 (M919) have? Are they the same bands as the International S4 LTE (I9505)?
Based on the wikipedia page for Samsung Galaxy S4, the model I9505 has more LTE bands than the T-Mobile M919 version, is that completely true and technically proven?
Most of the websites state that the M919 and the I9505 has the same bands for all GSM, HSDPA and LTE.
I appreciate if someone can lead me to the ultimate answer.
Thanks.
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You can find all the information on the Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4
I9505 lacks the 1700MHz LTE band which is needed in T-Mobile LTE.
That's weird, I can swear that wiki page had different information yesterday about the I9505 LTE bands
macaumen said:
You can find all the information on the Wiki page
I9505 lacks the 1700MHz LTE band which is needed in T-Mobile LTE.
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Hey so looking at the wiki that you guys posted up there it says following for the tmobile version: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
now i somehow got my hand on one of these devices in europe for rather cheap and totally new, so im confused now what these CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E are, does any of these stand for any other than the 700mhz band? like 1700/1800mhz? or in other words, is it possible to get lte to work in europe with the tmobile usa s4? Can the modem perhaps be flashed with an i9505 one and than get the additional bands or is the hardware actualyl that different (as in antennas and amplifiers)?
Its not really a dealbreaker for me as LTE in my country is quite some time away but still, would like to know.
thanks
In simple words, the LTE bands are (not in order): Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), Band 17 (700), so we have the LTE bands available for the T-Mobile version: 700, 850, 1700, 1900, 2100 and 2600.
crnkoj said:
Hey so looking at the wiki that you guys posted up there it says following for the tmobile version: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
now i somehow got my hand on one of these devices in europe for rather cheap and totally new, so im confused now what these CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E are, does any of these stand for any other than the 700mhz band? like 1700/1800mhz? or in other words, is it possible to get lte to work in europe with the tmobile usa s4? Can the modem perhaps be flashed with an i9505 one and than get the additional bands or is the hardware actualyl that different (as in antennas and amplifiers)?
Its not really a dealbreaker for me as LTE in my country is quite some time away but still, would like to know.
thanks
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tikoracer said:
In simple words, the LTE bands are (not in order): Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), Band 17 (700), so we have the LTE bands available for the T-Mobile version: 700, 850, 1700, 1900, 2100 and 2600.
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sorry for asking it again, but that basically means the tmobile version has most bands that are used enabled? just have to figure what bands are being used in my country... thanks really
edit: checked the bands here naturally its 800 and 1800, so my question remains, can i somehow flash the phone to work on these?
Check the picture attached, this photo is from the original T-Mobile US Samsung Galaxy S4 (M919) box.
crnkoj said:
sorry for asking it again, but that basically means the tmobile version has most bands that are used enabled? just have to figure what bands are being used in my country... thanks really
edit: checked the bands here naturally its 800 and 1800, so my question remains, can i somehow flash the phone to work on these?
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No, you can't flash a I9505 rom to a M919 device, if you do, you will brick it. The best option for you to get 800 and 1800 frequencies is to go for the GT-I9505, it's the Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE version, and it has the following bands for LTE Cat 3 (800 / 850 / 900 / 1,800 / 2,100 / 2,600 MHz). This is the official Samsung page: http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/smartphone/GT-I9505ZKAXSA-spec
crnkoj said:
sorry for asking it again, but that basically means the tmobile version has most bands that are used enabled? just have to figure what bands are being used in my country... thanks really
edit: checked the bands here naturally its 800 and 1800, so my question remains, can i somehow flash the phone to work on these?
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Yes, it seems that the I9505 has LTE bands for each region, it's not dedicated for America (North, Central and South), it also support Europe and Asia, while it doesn't contain most bands for a specific region, it's a world phone, unlucky doesn't fully support T-Mobile 4G UTMS network (1700/2100), but still a good option for those who travel to other continents.
sleik said:
Tmobile uses AWS for 4g LTE which requires 2100/1700 frequency. The GT-i9505 only supports 2100mhz i believe, which is not enough.
I think the GT-i9505 supports one of the several frequencies that Tmobile uses for HDSPA, so HDSPA coverage may be a bit spotty with the phone. This was referenced off the top of my head, but I had done some research online about this before as I had similar questions as you.
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Flashing just the modem doesn't work either?
I haven't tried flashing modems into another devices that don't correspond to their own. I can't help you with that answer at this time
crnkoj said:
Flashing just the modem doesn't work either?
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I haven't tried flashing modems into another devices that don't correspond to their own. I can't help you with that answer at this time
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i asked that because i have an att atrix, on which its possible to flash european modems without a problem, thanks for your time man, i hope someone will try this and it works
Question...are all those other things i've been hearing about other ppl successfully getting 4g reception after doing something to either with the aws band's, or to the software true? does anyone know for sure? i'm very thankful for any input, as i've been hearing so many conflicting things when it comes to the i9505 and getting 4g service with t-mobile, i just want a proven answer :/
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nycemc said:
Question...are all those other things i've been hearing about other ppl successfully getting 4g reception after doing something to either with the aws band's, or to the software true? does anyone know for sure? i'm very thankful for any input, as i've been hearing so many conflicting things when it comes to the i9505 and getting 4g service with t-mobile, i just want a proven answer :/
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T-mobile is 4g lte and super fast
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crnkoj said:
Hey so looking at the wiki that you guys posted up there it says following for the tmobile version: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
now i somehow got my hand on one of these devices in europe for rather cheap and totally new, so im confused now what these CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E are, does any of these stand for any other than the 700mhz band? like 1700/1800mhz? or in other words, is it possible to get lte to work in europe with the tmobile usa s4? Can the modem perhaps be flashed with an i9505 one and than get the additional bands or is the hardware actualyl that different (as in antennas and amplifiers)?
Its not really a dealbreaker for me as LTE in my country is quite some time away but still, would like to know.
thanks
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I bought my S4 T-mobile (SGH-M919) in USA. And it is fine working in Spain with 4G. But when i have upgraded it to Marshmallow then only works with HSPA(H+) as better. Change baseband? i am not sure to do it...mmmm
Hey Guys,
Not sure where to ask at this point, but I know that there is a Verizon forum for the S4, but this is more T-Mobile inclined question.
My mom was given an S4 at her job from Verizon but I convinced her to give it to me since I wanted it and I gave her my Tmobile Note 2.
I put my sim card into the Verizon S4 and configured the APN setting so now im getting faster data speeds with the Verizon S4 than I was with my Tmobile Note 2. So everything works but the phone is in Global mode, which I dont really care at this point.
My question is though, how can I get the Verizon S4 to connect to the Tmobile signal cel-fi booster that I have. I have no service at my job so therefore I obtained one of the boosters offered by Tmobile, works great with my Note 2, but the S4 does not recognize the cel-fi booster.
Please advise...
I guessing the cell fi thing is for tmobile phone only. I'm sure tmobile don't want just anyone to use their products.
It's probably a firmware deal and not the SIM that recognized the cell fi.
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Yes, I definitely understand that, but I am using a TMobile sim card, logged into Tmobile towers, using Tmobile 4G LTE network, but the hardware/firmware is Verizon, so that is why I am asking if it is doable to get this working? Perhaps if flashing a rom or something?
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Yes, I definitely understand that, but I am using a TMobile sim card, logged into Tmobile towers, using Tmobile 4G LTE network, but the hardware/firmware is Verizon, so that is why I am asking if it is doable to get this working? Perhaps if flashing a rom or something?
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Could it be a hardware issue? Tmobile special band which does noy jave in the verizon phone?
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I don tknow, thats why im asking you guys lol
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I don tknow, thats why im asking you guys lol
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Your best bet is to call T Mobile tech support and ask them. You've got a really obsscure question that probably has to deal with the frequencies the 2 devices communicate on that no one here has probably ever dealt with. T Mobile is going to be the quickest way to get this answer.
The T-Mobile cel-fi operates at the 1700MHz aws frequencies. According to this thread they are not enabled by default on the Verizon galaxy s4. So that's why it's not picking up the signal from the cel-fi.
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Cel-Fi RS1 vs RS2
elesbb said:
The T-Mobile cel-fi operates at the 1700MHz aws frequencies. According to this thread they are not enabled by default on the Verizon galaxy s4. So that's why it's not picking up the signal from the cel-fi.
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Guys,
I work for Cel-Fi - it looks like you are correct.
The RS2 Cel-Fi (the latest one) will boost 2 bands: 1.9GHz (aka PCS, Band 2) + AWS
BUT the older RS1 (we dont sell it anymore) will only boost AWS and not Band 2...
Check here for details on the Bands 2 and 4, and here for definitions of the bands...
It looks like the S4 gets 1900 band 2 (specs S4 for T-Mobile UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE)
Let us know which Cel-Fi you have...
Regards,
Laurent
laurent.gil said:
Guys,
I work for Cel-Fi - it looks like you are correct.
The RS2 Cel-Fi (the latest one) will boost 2 bands: 1.9GHz (aka PCS, Band 2) + AWS
BUT the older RS1 (we dont sell it anymore) will only boost AWS and not Band 2...
Check here for details on the Bands 2 and 4, and here for definitions of the bands...
It looks like the S4 gets 1900 band 2 (specs S4 for T-Mobile UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE)
Let us know which Cel-Fi you have...
Regards,
Laurent
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I have the RS1 (older one) got it for 90 bucks on ebay
Works great!
And since you work for Cel-Fi, does the RS2 model boost the LTE signal for T-Mobile or not? From what i am reading, it does not.
Sorry for my ignorance but how is the Verizon Galaxy S4 able to connect to T Mobile let alone LTE? Is Verizon S4 a pentaband phone? I think my knowledge is outdated but I was under the impression that Verizon uses CDMA
utsc said:
Sorry for my ignorance but how is the Verizon Galaxy S4 able to connect to T Mobile let alone LTE? Is Verizon S4 a pentaband phone? I think my knowledge is outdated but I was under the impression that Verizon uses CDMA
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They do, it switches to global mode (GSM) when you insert a non-verizon sim.. Most CDMA smartphones have this capability nowadays, which they did not before.. Verizon is the only carrier I know that does not lock the gsm radio on their phones, I think Sprint's phones are sim locked
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I'll sell the new cell-fi
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