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Okay well, everyone says that you need the 1700mhz frequency bands to work on wind mobile. However, the website itself does not post that the galaxy note 2, they provide the sgh-t899v, has any 1700mhz bands. Now this can't be just an accidental omission as you go to the s3 and you find that the 1700mhz bands is listed.
However, AWS I believe is just another word that describes the 1700mhz bands, so for any note with AWS know that your phone will work on wind unlocked of course. However, the gt-n7100 does not have AWS. I heard how t-mobile is shifting over their hspa+ to 1900, and leaving 1700mhz for LTE. So is wind doing the same thing, if so how come they haven't announced it.
or simply, the question is, will the gt-n7100 note 2 or the international note 2 work on the Wind Mobile network. I don't want people who simply have assumptions to answer, I rather have people who have a gt-n7100 note 2 on the wind mobile to answer.
please hurry need answers quick.
MCRHAZ said:
Okay well, everyone says that you need the 1700mhz frequency bands to work on wind mobile. However, the website itself does not post that the galaxy note 2, they provide the sgh-t899v, has any 1700mhz bands. Now this can't be just an accidental omission as you go to the s3 and you find that the 1700mhz bands is listed.
However, AWS I believe is just another word that describes the 1700mhz bands, so for any note with AWS know that your phone will work on wind unlocked of course. However, the gt-n7100 does not have AWS. I heard how t-mobile is shifting over their hspa+ to 1900, and leaving 1700mhz for LTE. So is wind doing the same thing, if so how come they haven't announced it.
or simply, the question is, will the gt-n7100 note 2 or the international note 2 work on the Wind Mobile network. I don't want people who simply have assumptions to answer, I rather have people who have a gt-n7100 note 2 on the wind mobile to answer.
please hurry need answers quick.
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Hi, Did you figure out how to get your Note 2 GT-N7100 to work on Wind Mobile?
Wind in Europe Greece no problem at all. Model n7100 unlocked international not the lte. Maybe there are differences from country to country.
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Wind in Europe Greece no problem at all. Model n7100 unlocked international not the lte. Maybe there are differences from country to country.
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Hi, Sorry i thought you were in Canada on Wind Mobile.
Some devices simply won't work on certain mobile network. Great question but I think best dealt with by Wind themselves. Best suggestion is to give them a call or go into a store.
Which Note 2 supports more networks and frequencies; and therefore, which would be more suitable for international travel. Is the Verizon Note 2 even pentaband?
T mobile version because it's gsm which is going to work overseas. Verizon is a CDMA and I haven't read that it has gsm support.
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T mobile version because it's gsm which is going to work overseas. Verizon is a CDMA and I haven't read that it has gsm support.
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Yup, the T-Mobile version will work in more places overseas -- Especially Europe. Just in case, you might want to ask this in the Verizon area also just to make sure. :good:
I'm confused because on Samsungs website, http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I605TSAVZW-specs
the Verizon Model has the GSM frequencies,
is it GSM if unlocked; i believe the Note 2 is already unlocked by verizon, will it work on GSM frequencies internationally?
correct me if I'm wrong, thanks
the verizon Galaxy Note II apparently has the GSM radios,
also has LTE; doesn't AT&T LTE work along same frequencies as verizon LTE
or is the verizon LTE exlusively to CDMA?
All Galaxy Note 2 devices seem to have all WCDMA, GSM, and LTE bands.
But what I understand is that Verizon version is considered as a "world" phone. I know that they tell me that I can use their Galaxy Note 2 on the European Networks.
I have played around with the bands on my T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2 and can get the WCDMA and LTE working. So I don't know if the Modem firmware in all Galaxy Note 2 are the same and just need to be activated by the carrier's sim card or not. Someone please educate us on the this. I know that their is talk of needing OTA update to activate the LTE within T-Mobile GN2. But if the Modem is all the same then can just updating or exchanging the sim card could do the same? Or does the nv file also needs to be updated to activate the band/s as well?
The question is not if Galaxy Note 2 (all verisons) have the bands. But how to (the actual process) activate the band, in question, and get the Galaxy Note 2 in working order with the carrier of choice? What is the method? How to do the process of this method?
Please correct me if I am getting this wrong.
^ good point, and also just to ask about the verizon note 2 again, i thought it carries carries an an additional radio for CDMA, does this mean that the verizon note 2 model has better capabilities worldwide' since it is virtually compatible with all networks in the world (simply tweaks to the frequencies to the radio can get the verizon variant working virtually anywhere) please correct me if I'm wrong here. thanks
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Problem I have seen in the past with Verizon world phones is that the game frequencies only work overseas. And lte is gsm band. Which is one of the few reasons Verizon phones have a sim slot to begin with
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All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
But doesn't Verizon use LTE on the 700 band just like AT&T and future TMobile LTE?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Please correct me if I'm wrong, thank you.
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All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
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So the Verizon Note2 is like the AT&T Note2 & Sprint Note2 (supporting 21Mbps HSPA+ but not 42Mbps like T-Mobile) but all only with their own respective LTE?..wouldn't it be more cost effective for Samsung just to make 1 phone with all the hardware to support all (isn't the iPhone5 like that now?) or is it cost prohibitive or do carriers not want to make it easier to unlock?
Are we still confident that the T-Mobile Note2 is the best if we want the flexibility to use on all carriers? How often is >21Mbps HSPA+ seen in real world use & why is the disabled LTE not listed at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1877 ?
So, which is better then, Verizon or T-Mobile? Verizon's Note 2 also includes a CDMA radio whereas the T-Mobile version does not. If you are using the Note 2 in the US, wouldn't you have more flexible options in terms of which carrier to use?
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All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
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So do we consider the Verizon Note2 even more carrier flexible than T-Mobile's Note2 (as I was about ready to buy the T-Mobile Note2 to try their $30/mo plan but now having some doubts..if I want this tomorrow I need to order soon) ?
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Well LTE On the Verizon Note 2 is only compatible with Verizon's Network. Even if unlocked; the phone's firmware only recognizes LTE if only the Verizon 750 band is detected. Verizon has its own exclusive LTE bands compared to AT&T and Future T-Mobile LTE (sharing the same LTE bands)
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So do we consider the Verizon Note2 even more carrier flexible than T-Mobile's Note2 (as I was about ready to buy the T-Mobile Note2 to try their $30/mo plan but now having some doubts..if I want this tomorrow I need to order soon) ?
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I cannot speak to the CDMA radio issue, but I am positive that Verizon LTE will not work with any GSM LTE phone. The frequencies are similar, but Verizon is using a different LTE protocol. I asked that question a long time ago, thinking that LTE would finally allow roaming between Verizon and AT&T, but they are too clever to allow such a democratic system to function. They will remain fundamentally incompatible, not because they need to be, but because they want it that way to keep you locked to your carrier by your choice of device. Nice, eh?
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The Verizon NoteII will (in theory) connect to any gsm carrier. How to do so, I don't know.
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^^^ Well, the Verizon Note 2 will not be able to work with another carrier's LTE than itself.
my experience
Hey folks,
I've got the Verizon Note 2 and I love it. If you're willing to unlock the bootloader and then install a hack onto your device, you'll easily be able to swap the SIM card out and use it just about anywhere. Yes, the phone is carrier unlocked (not the same as bootloader unlocked). The issue is that in the settings, they won't let you add the specific APNs for the carriers you need. I"m not sure how else to get around that without installing some of the hacks. I managed to do it and it works beautifully on Canada's Bell Mobility, HSPA+ is screamingly fast and the LTE on VErizon in the States is just insanely fast. My recommendation: get the Verizon version because they've built out their LTE much more than their rivals at this point.
On anantech the reviewer stated that the tmobile version would be the most compatible. If you get vzw note2 and switch you wont get lte on tmob or att. Quite frankly vzw is too expensive and the coverage from tmobile is getting better by the month. Not to mention their business pricing is better than any of the other carriers.
As the title says I have some questions:
What are the speed differences between AT&T's net work and T-Mobile's? I've read that T-Mobile doesn't have LE yet but it is coming in the near future.
Will my AT&T Note 2 be able to take advantage of T-Mobile's high speed network or do I need to switch to the T-Mobile verions? From what I've read it seems the AT&T one has all the radios to cover all the frequencies that T-Mobile uses so I should be good to go with the phone I have now but some confirmation would be nice.
Thanks.
T-Mobile's HSPA+ network is much faster than AT&T's. Of course there are examples where it isn't, but it's notably faster in most every market.
The AT&T version of the Note 2 only gets EDGE on T-Mobile. You want the T-Mobile T-889, unlocked, to have a true pentaband (with LTE) Note 2.
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T-Mobile's HSPA+ network is much faster than AT&T's. Of course there are examples where it isn't, but it's notably faster in most every market.
The AT&T version of the Note 2 only gets EDGE on T-Mobile. You want the T-Mobile T-889, unlocked, to have a true pentaband (with LTE) Note 2.
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My friend has an att note 2 on tmobile with hspa.
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My friend has an att note 2 on tmobile with hspa.
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If I remember right, the att version can get hspa+21, while the tmobile version can go hspa+42.
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The T-mobile version is also LTE ready when T-mobile rolls out there LTE network this year we will get an update for our T-mobile Note 2's that will enable the LTE radio.
I do feel that hspa is fast enough though. When I'm in a good coverage area, I get about 17 mbps down and 2 mbps up. I feel that is more then enough bandwidth.
So either way 4G or 4G LTE that they are slowly rolling out. I'm happy with T-mobile's network speeds.
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The truth is it really differs all over. It depends who has better coverage in your area. Because what you're looking at from the carriers specs, that is max speeds your looking at. For example I have tmobile. The max speed I could get with hspa+42 is 42 mb download speed. But in reality I only get about 14-20 average. But my brother in law who lives right next door has at&t and he only gets around 5-10 averages. You should be able to find some kind of map from one carrier or the other that will give you an idea of who is going to give you the best coverage. Or find 2 of your friends who are in the same area 1 with tmo and 1 with at&t and ask them to run speed test with their phones.
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Search "AWS MOD" to make your ATT note 2 i317 compatible with Tmobile 4G network.
My i317 gets about 14Mbps on Tmobile
inspron said:
Search "AWS MOD" to make your ATT note 2 i317 compatible with Tmobile 4G network.
My i317 gets about 14Mbps on Tmobile
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Yeah, I've already decied to switch to T-Mobile this weekend. I did the AWS mod. Does that mean I'll have the LTE enabled when they roll it out or will I still only have HSPA speed? From the hardware specs on Wikipedia it looks like the AT&T version has all the radio bands that the T-Mobile one does.
Hi,
I searched whole Galaxy Note 2 Forums for my question but did not get direct answer. My question is
Can I use AT&T Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317) in India and get 3g data as is without making any modification to Bands?
or
Should I enable AWS (TMobile 3g/4g) bands in this phone to use 3G in India.
If anybody is using this phone in India, let me know how / which carrier in India are you using.
thershope said:
Hi,
I searched whole Galaxy Note 2 Forums for my question but did not get direct answer. My question is
Can I use AT&T Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317) in India and get 3g data as is without making any modification to Bands?
or
Should I enable AWS (TMobile 3g/4g) bands in this phone to use 3G in India.
If anybody is using this phone in India, let me know how / which carrier in India are you using.
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Depends what bands your carrier uses. The phone (without the AWS hack) supports 850/900/1900/2100 MHz for 3G.
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Depends what bands your carrier uses. The phone (without the AWS hack) supports 850/900/1900/2100 MHz for 3G.
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I thought it supports only triband for 3g (900MHz being unavailable). Can you please confirm that SGH-i317 supports 900MHz for 3G.
thershope said:
I thought it supports only triband for 3g (900MHz being unavailable). Can you please confirm that SGH-i317 supports 900MHz for 3G.
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I can't confirm that it actually works, other than this screenshot from my i317 (I did the AWS hack, which is why 1700 MHz comes up). GSM carriers in the US use 850/1900 (AT&T) and 1700/1900/2100 (T-Mobile) for 3G. So I can't see if 900 MHz works:
http://db.tt/WTFsWwwa
However, I don't think the phone will show bands that it doesn't support, so it should work. I have a hard time believing the phone is only Tri-Band, when my Galaxy S3 i9300 is quad-band (850/900/1900/2100 MHz) UMTS.
I know that the Verizon version works with 900 MHz because on Samsung's websites, it's quad-band UMTS. Yes, the Verizon version can also do GSM. It comes unlocked as well. You just have to use root and an APN application to add your carrier's APN, or just install a custom ROM that enables the APN menu.
I actually had the exact opposite question. I am planning on buying the Galaxy Note II (N7100) in India and I wanted to know if the 3G facility would work for any GSM provider in the United States?? I wanted to know if all the N7100 models (including the ones in India) are Quad band 3G. If so I guess the AT&T 3G should work as quad band would be compatible with the 850/1900 frequencies used by AT&T. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. I hope to be in the US from September for studies and thus wanted to be sure Id be able to use this phone for 3G there.
garam_masala said:
I actually had the exact opposite question. I am planning on buying the Galaxy Note II (N7100) in India and I wanted to know if the 3G facility would work for any GSM provider in the United States?? I wanted to know if all the N7100 models (including the ones in India) are Quad band 3G. If so I guess the AT&T 3G should work as quad band would be compatible with the 850/1900 frequencies used by AT&T. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. I hope to be in the US from September for studies and thus wanted to be sure Id be able to use this phone for 3G there.
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It works on AT&T 3G. Correct.
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Im using the att note 2 i317 in india on airtel network. Currently on cleanrom MA4 . Speed is decent. I get anywhere between 4 to 8 mbps during good signal
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Thanks for confirming. I was worried that I will miss out on 3g because of this 900MHz.
moinsheriff said:
Im using the att note 2 i317 in india on airtel network. Currently on cleanrom MA4 . Speed is decent. I get anywhere between 4 to 8 mbps during good signal
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thershope said:
Hi,
I searched whole Galaxy Note 2 Forums for my question but did not get direct answer. My question is
Can I use AT&T Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317) in India and get 3g data as is without making any modification to Bands?
or
Should I enable AWS (TMobile 3g/4g) bands in this phone to use 3G in India.
If anybody is using this phone in India, let me know how / which carrier in India are you using.
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I travel India frequently and have US (AT&T) and India (Vodaphone) SIM, I just swap the sim and everything works great. I am on cleanrom 4.8. No issues and great Internet speed in Mumbai. Even I was able to do RDC without any issues.
Thanks.
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I travel India frequently and have US (AT&T) and India (Vodaphone) SIM, I just swap the sim and everything works great. I am on cleanrom 4.8. No issues and great Internet speed in Mumbai. Even I was able to do RDC without any issues.
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ATT Note 2 in India
Guys i am using ATT Note 2 in India and i am not able to pick up 3G frequencies here.. My phone is unlocked from ATT but i still only get to use 2G,. I would appreciate if anyone can help me here. How do i get to 3G here.? i am using a vodafone sim.
Hey Guys,
Not sure where to ask at this point, but I know that there is a Verizon forum for the S4, but this is more T-Mobile inclined question.
My mom was given an S4 at her job from Verizon but I convinced her to give it to me since I wanted it and I gave her my Tmobile Note 2.
I put my sim card into the Verizon S4 and configured the APN setting so now im getting faster data speeds with the Verizon S4 than I was with my Tmobile Note 2. So everything works but the phone is in Global mode, which I dont really care at this point.
My question is though, how can I get the Verizon S4 to connect to the Tmobile signal cel-fi booster that I have. I have no service at my job so therefore I obtained one of the boosters offered by Tmobile, works great with my Note 2, but the S4 does not recognize the cel-fi booster.
Please advise...
I guessing the cell fi thing is for tmobile phone only. I'm sure tmobile don't want just anyone to use their products.
It's probably a firmware deal and not the SIM that recognized the cell fi.
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Yes, I definitely understand that, but I am using a TMobile sim card, logged into Tmobile towers, using Tmobile 4G LTE network, but the hardware/firmware is Verizon, so that is why I am asking if it is doable to get this working? Perhaps if flashing a rom or something?
elite-fusion said:
Yes, I definitely understand that, but I am using a TMobile sim card, logged into Tmobile towers, using Tmobile 4G LTE network, but the hardware/firmware is Verizon, so that is why I am asking if it is doable to get this working? Perhaps if flashing a rom or something?
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Could it be a hardware issue? Tmobile special band which does noy jave in the verizon phone?
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I don tknow, thats why im asking you guys lol
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I don tknow, thats why im asking you guys lol
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Your best bet is to call T Mobile tech support and ask them. You've got a really obsscure question that probably has to deal with the frequencies the 2 devices communicate on that no one here has probably ever dealt with. T Mobile is going to be the quickest way to get this answer.
The T-Mobile cel-fi operates at the 1700MHz aws frequencies. According to this thread they are not enabled by default on the Verizon galaxy s4. So that's why it's not picking up the signal from the cel-fi.
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Cel-Fi RS1 vs RS2
elesbb said:
The T-Mobile cel-fi operates at the 1700MHz aws frequencies. According to this thread they are not enabled by default on the Verizon galaxy s4. So that's why it's not picking up the signal from the cel-fi.
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Guys,
I work for Cel-Fi - it looks like you are correct.
The RS2 Cel-Fi (the latest one) will boost 2 bands: 1.9GHz (aka PCS, Band 2) + AWS
BUT the older RS1 (we dont sell it anymore) will only boost AWS and not Band 2...
Check here for details on the Bands 2 and 4, and here for definitions of the bands...
It looks like the S4 gets 1900 band 2 (specs S4 for T-Mobile UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE)
Let us know which Cel-Fi you have...
Regards,
Laurent
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Guys,
I work for Cel-Fi - it looks like you are correct.
The RS2 Cel-Fi (the latest one) will boost 2 bands: 1.9GHz (aka PCS, Band 2) + AWS
BUT the older RS1 (we dont sell it anymore) will only boost AWS and not Band 2...
Check here for details on the Bands 2 and 4, and here for definitions of the bands...
It looks like the S4 gets 1900 band 2 (specs S4 for T-Mobile UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE)
Let us know which Cel-Fi you have...
Regards,
Laurent
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I have the RS1 (older one) got it for 90 bucks on ebay
Works great!
And since you work for Cel-Fi, does the RS2 model boost the LTE signal for T-Mobile or not? From what i am reading, it does not.
Sorry for my ignorance but how is the Verizon Galaxy S4 able to connect to T Mobile let alone LTE? Is Verizon S4 a pentaband phone? I think my knowledge is outdated but I was under the impression that Verizon uses CDMA
utsc said:
Sorry for my ignorance but how is the Verizon Galaxy S4 able to connect to T Mobile let alone LTE? Is Verizon S4 a pentaband phone? I think my knowledge is outdated but I was under the impression that Verizon uses CDMA
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They do, it switches to global mode (GSM) when you insert a non-verizon sim.. Most CDMA smartphones have this capability nowadays, which they did not before.. Verizon is the only carrier I know that does not lock the gsm radio on their phones, I think Sprint's phones are sim locked
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I'll sell the new cell-fi
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