[Q] Is it safe to update? - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys, very quick question...
I've used the chainfire method to root my phone.. everything is left standard and it hasn't got the custom recovery installed.
This morning my notification bar came downloaded a new software update.
Is it safe to install? If I do, will I lose root / be able to re-install it?
I was well impressed that I could root it without adding to the triangle count, but I do wish I could add other features like more icons in the quick access settings in the notifications bar... Can I install that now, or do I need a custom rom?
Cheers.
Andy

andypa1 said:
Hi guys, very quick question...
I've used the chainfire method to root my phone.. everything is left standard and it hasn't got the custom recovery installed.
This morning my notification bar came downloaded a new software update.
Is it safe to install? If I do, will I lose root / be able to re-install it?
I was well impressed that I could root it without adding to the triangle count, but I do wish I could add other features like more icons in the quick access settings in the notifications bar... Can I install that now, or do I need a custom rom?
Cheers.
Andy
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Hi Andy. Well its ALWAYS recommended to make a nandroid backup before you flash a new rom and in your case before you apply a download to your system. Im unsure what the update is (prob something minor) as the N2 has jelly bean and 4.2 wont be out for a while but it could potentially unroot your phone.
Who cares if it does. Just root it again.
As for settings in notification bar you will need a custom rom. Theres no shortage to choose from, Have fun

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[Q] Installed Mods on Myn's ROM - Help me get back to his theme

I installed myn's rom and love it! In doing so I wanted to play around since this is my first ROM I have installed. I installed a transparent titlebar, battery mod, and gingerbread menus from his list of optional items.
I then found f(red)'s gingerbread experience modifications that are listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866158
Now i am kinda stuck.. Now in the menus i have white buttons with white text in them.. so in short, i cant see anything
How can i correct this? Can i somehow load Myn's themeing back and then lay what i want on top of it to get what i want? I just dont want to have to reload the rom and wipe my phone.. it is just a pain in the butt to do so.
so i am not thinking... right now i am doing a clockwork backup and will use ROM manager to apply the same rom on top of itself. Then will apply the gingerbread experience items one by one afterwards.
Did you do any backups before you started appliying mods? Best to do a restore then boot into recovery and flash the mod. if you flash over too much it tends to get like too many layers paint on a wall. Not sure if this help at all but ill look into it a bit more for you
sgtagem said:
Did you do any backups before you started appliying mods? Best to do a restore then boot into recovery and flash the mod. if you flash over too much it tends to get like too many layers paint on a wall. Not sure if this help at all but ill look into it a bit more for you
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That would have been too smart
Fortunately i have gotten my themeing back by just reapplying the rom but i just lost root it seems. I cannot use setcpu, wifi tethering, nor titanium backup.. but i have no clue why.
It is like i lost root. How can i get this back?
Do you have the SuperUser icon? Try clearing its cache. Did you try to reinstall SetCPU, does it pop up the permissions box?
i downloaded and installed an app called root checker which verified that i somehow did not have root anymore... crazy.
I just did a full wipe (cache and all) and reloaded the ROM and all is well again. no clue why it did this or how... what can i say.. it is what it is I guess.

[Q] Unroot a custom rom?

Hey All,
For Work I need to install the app Good for Enterprise so I can get my calendar and work email pushed to my phone. Unfortunately it is company policy that it be unrooted. Presumeably a security issue. Is it possible to unroot a custom rom? i'd rather not go back to stock for the simple reason of app storage. I love A2SD+ and being able to have as many apps as I want installed. Also nandroid backups, that would go away without root too wouldn;t it? Can I just remove the SU.apk? Will that suffice to be "unrooted"? Is that even possible?
Tweak_four17 said:
Hey All,
For Work I need to install the app Good for Enterprise so I can get my calendar and work email pushed to my phone. Unfortunately it is company policy that it be unrooted. Presumeably a security issue. Is it possible to unroot a custom rom? i'd rather not go back to stock for the simple reason of app storage. I love A2SD+ and being able to have as many apps as I want installed. Also nandroid backups, that would go away without root too wouldn;t it? Can I just remove the SU.apk? Will that suffice to be "unrooted"? Is that even possible?
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If you want to unroot, you'll need to go back to stock.
The reason they want unrooted phones, is not so much a security issue, as it is they just don't understand or don't wish to deal with possible problems.
If you backup your apps and data you can run the official RUU, and it will put the original unrooted system to your phone. I don't know other method.
Here are the official ROMs: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
Removing the SU binaries will unroot you, I don't see the need as to why you have to be unrooted though.
apparently you can't use the new movie-rental feature of google's market, when you are rooted.
Is it possible to stick to a custom rom but unroot it, so that google recognises your phone as a not-rooted device and allows you to watch movies from market?
I don't need root-permissions every day - in fact I only need it for Titanium Backup, so deleting su-binaries and/or superuser.apk would be ok - but it must be possible to restore them (via recovery/adb) to run TB.
This probably isn't what google wants you to do since you can download the movie to watch later and if you have a working recovery you probably could get you hands on the downloaded files, but still - would be nice, if this was possible.
Easiest way to unroot and go back to stock is to stick a PB99IMG.zip on your sdcard, and turn your phone on with volume held down
How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
madcr0w said:
Easiest way to unroot and go back to stock is to stick a PB99IMG.zip on your sdcard, and turn your phone on with volume held down
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Demonic idea
kuroneko007 said:
How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
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I like your idea mate! Hahahahahaha....
Edit: Bad boy! Bad bad boy! hahahahahahahaha....
kuroneko007 said:
How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
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Has anyone ever tested this?
Or why don't you just delete superuser via adb or android commander
good for enterprise checks for root access/ su every time it starts. It's not an issue of not being able to install the app. It's available for free on the market. The problem is when entering all your info and starting it up, it checks for SU.
I am guessing the best way around this is to install custom rom, set everything up that you need that requires SU/root. Then delete all the su/root related files. Then install Good.
Unfortunately I don't have a list of all the files that have to be deleted for this to work.
There have been reports that other users who have tried this method got it to work but the App stopped syncing after a few days.
List:
/system/app/superuser
/system/bin/su
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I tried this method, renamed the 2 files. It has been working for last 24 hours. I'll update again after a week if it still works..
Edit:
yep this works perfectly.
vvelumm said:
I tried this method, renamed the 2 files. It has been working for last 24 hours. I'll update again after a week if it still works..
Edit:
yep this works perfectly.
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You renamed SU.apk to SU.apk.bak most likely...
What did you rename the libs file to?
vvelumm said:
good for enterprise checks for root access/ su every time it starts. It's not an issue of not being able to install the app. It's available for free on the market. The problem is when entering all your info and starting it up, it checks for SU.
I am guessing the best way around this is to install custom rom, set everything up that you need that requires SU/root. Then delete all the su/root related files. Then install Good.
Unfortunately I don't have a list of all the files that have to be deleted for this to work.
There have been reports that other users who have tried this method got it to work but the App stopped syncing after a few days.
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I have rooted my HTC Salsa to get apps2sd which is great, but now my mobile banking app says it will not work on a rooted device, similar to your issue.
I am new to android modding, what commands do i need to enter where to rename the files you mention ?
Thanks in advance.
Mike
wont work good enterprises would more than likely check every time like sky go. you would have to removed a2sd command line i think and all su binarys ( and su.akp ( difficult as its normally a system app and once one of the su has been removed you dont have premition to remove the other/
and to the donunt who said ( the dont understand root) wanna cookie 0. basicly good enterprise is a secure web client for companys to send information to mobiles, i have it on my work (iphone) <<<< scummmy.. anyways as root gives to the option to do what ever you or anyone else wants with the phone in theory you could use that system to breack the law or for instance chaindd could possible put an update in to su that will take data from the company> for google videos ) well with root you can screen record ( basicly ) excuse the spelling im trying to find out how to un root and keep all of my system ui mods and themes and my rom ( proving difficult)
hey I know that this is based on a old post but I have a question did you ever find out how to unroot a custom rom that is pre-rooted?

Not able to disable the Google search bar

Hi,
I am on stock ROM with JB 4.1 and wanted to disable the Google search bar present in all the screens. I did a search and found that disabling it from "All Apps" removes it from the homescreen and so I tried that. What it does is removes the Google search bar, but the space occupied by it is still present with a rectangular patch and I cant place any widgets in that space. Can someone please tell me how to permanently remove the search bar.
P.S - My phone is not rooted!!!! Its new and I want to enjoy stock till I can...
Just root the phone and don't install a custom rom, thus you will still be stock except for the SU app. Then you can remove the search bar all together and gain that space back. This way you can enjoy the STOCK rom too. Although if you remove the search you technically aren't stock anymore.
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Install nova or apex launcher, you can enable/disable the search bar or just have it only on one screen and not all.
peachpuff said:
Install nova or apex launcher, you can enable/disable the search bar or just have it only on one screen and not all.
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I know I can do that..but isnt there a way to do it in Stock launcher itself...??its so smooth...i like it very much..!!!
ifly4vamerica said:
Just root the phone and don't install a custom rom, thus you will still be stock except for the SU app. Then you can remove the search bar all together and gain that space back. This way you can enjoy the STOCK rom too. Although if you remove the search you technically aren't stock anymore.
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Hmmm..yes..thanks for that..But once rooted, i wont be able to resist the temptation to install a Custom ROM..thats why am avoiding it till now..
siddharthmani said:
I know I can do that..but isnt there a way to do it in Stock launcher itself...??its so smooth...i like it very much..!!!
Hmmm..yes..thanks for that..But once rooted, i wont be able to resist the temptation to install a Custom ROM..thats why am avoiding it till now..
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Resistance is futile. Time for some BAMF! :victory:
ifly4vamerica said:
Just root the phone and don't install a custom rom, thus you will still be stock except for the SU app. Then you can remove the search bar all together and gain that space back. This way you can enjoy the STOCK rom too. Although if you remove the search you technically aren't stock anymore.
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How do you do this?

Tab 3 7.0 (wifi) Questions (already successfully rooted)

Hi,
i am new and i have a few questions. I got a Tab 3 7.0 (Wifi) 4.1.2 with custom cwm recovery and rooted.anything else is stock.
I twice made a complete backup with titanium backup pro and once with cwm in recovery.
1.The tab changes my time +2 h by itself. Where can i change that or is that a bug?
2. i was offered an ota by samsung and i accepted, it registered my device and said my software has been modified and i cannot ota update.
How can i update then?
3. did i do a mistake by letting them register my device?
Maybe if a flash counter reset comes it wont help me cos now they know i flashed something and i lost my warrantY?
4. how does an official os update influence my software modifications (root, custom recovery etc)?
5. how do i switch between running apps?
6. how do i group mymenu apps into folders? I can create a folder in menu but when i try to drag an app into it i can only drag it to homescreen.
7. which website has a top 100 best android apps always current and considers also root only apps?
8.how do i setup navigon navigation thru voice control?
9.how do i stop the notification craziness on the top left corner of my screen?
I dont want any commercials there or update nots. It should silently keep my apps updated.?
10. How do i move my apps to my sd card? I have titanium backup pro 6.10 but it doesnt show in the settings.
i watched videos of people doing it but my settings do not offer the same as theirs? Do i need a bootstrap or something else except the custom recovery and root to get that feature?
Sorry for so many questions i just left ios.. Thanks a lot
cassinni said:
Hi,
i am new and i have a few questions. I got a Tab 3 7.0 (Wifi) 4.1.2 with custom cwm recovery and rooted.anything else is stock.
I twice made a complete backup with titanium backup pro and once with cwm in recovery.
1.The tab changes my time +2 h by itself. Where can i change that or is that a bug?
2. i was offered an ota by samsung and i accepted, it registered my device and said my software has been modified and i cannot ota update.
How can i update then?
3. did i do a mistake by letting them register my device?
Maybe if a flash counter reset comes it wont help me cos now they know i flashed something and i lost my warrantY?
4. how does an official os update influence my software modifications (root, custom recovery etc)?
5. how do i switch between running apps?
6. how do i group mymenu apps into folders? I can create a folder in menu but when i try to drag an app into it i can only drag it to homescreen.
7. which website has a top 100 best android apps always current and considers also root only apps?
8.how do i setup navigon navigation thru voice control?
9.how do i stop the notification craziness on the top left corner of my screen?
I dont want any commercials there or update nots. It should silently keep my apps updated.?
10. How do i move my apps to my sd card? I have titanium backup pro 6.10 but it doesnt show in the settings.
i watched videos of people doing it but my settings do not offer the same as theirs? Do i need a bootstrap or something else except the custom recovery and root to get that feature?
Sorry for so many questions i just left ios.. Thanks a lot
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I want to know number 10.... i only have 8gb storage and i need to move apps2sd... nothing works....
See answers in RED
cassinni said:
Hi,
i am new and i have a few questions. I got a Tab 3 7.0 (Wifi) 4.1.2 with custom cwm recovery and rooted.anything else is stock.
I twice made a complete backup with titanium backup pro and once with cwm in recovery.
1.The tab changes my time +2 h by itself. Where can i change that or is that a bug?
Have you double checked your time zone setup?
5. how do i switch between running apps?
Press and hold HOME button.
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[Q] Sprint Note 2 rootted stock now an update nag

Device Info: Sprint Galaxy Note 2 Running rooted stock Android 4.4.2. (chainfire auto root using odin)
Wifi only unit. I have no sprint contract purchased it used (I'm new to customizing android- I have flashed an old palm pda, but only via guidance)
Situation: Rooted the unit and have customized it as mine
1. No custom backup and would like to do that
2. Do not like all the bloatware apps
3. Now a system update has been downloaded asking to install (I've not okayed it)
So please help me with each of these
1. Please point me in the direction of best way to take a backup of existing rom ( I do have philz downloaded, but I'm not sure about how to ?
2. Would that deal with the persistent update request? Would it be good to update?
3. and then the bloatware removal, should I use an app that removes system apps? ( I have titanium, but I'm not good at knowing which apps to touch and not to touch) Thanks in advance and no I'm not in a hurry as yet.
Hi,
I will have your thread moved to your device section so the experts who own your device can help you.
Good luck!
Point to links please
If someone doesn't want to tackle this whole question I'd just appreciate links on how to step by step. I'd appreciate any help at all, I'm just a bit fearful of bricking the device, but if the instructions are clear I can definitely do this.
The first is issue is backup that is my priority at the moment. The second is whether to install the update or not and how to get rid of the nag. thanks
Not sure about backing up the ROM itself... but what I do is just back up the apps with Titanium and then re-load the apps (or just data) when I have to re-install my ROM like I did a couple of weeks ago. Prior to the Note II, I had an HTC Hero (stop laughing) and would do nandroids for that device. Don't know that you need that for Samsung devices, but somebody may be better to explain than I am.
ETA: here's an article on creating a nandroid, FWIW
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-is-a-nandroid-backup-and-how-exactly-does-it-work/
If you are rooted, I don't know that the persistent update will actually apply/install. I'm on Classic Stock 4.4.2 and I also had the same nag. Here's a link on how to disable the update nag. This is what I did, as my phone would not apply the update so I just disabled the persistent reminder using the steps below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442207
With respect to removing system apps, not sure I can offer much direction other than to suggest removing obvious apps (maybe like the Sprint Zone app) and then just doing a search on each app that looks like you can/want to delete or uninstall. Probably a bit time consuming, however, I am not aware of a "bloatware list" or anything which outlines safe-to-remove apps.
Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!
lost in cyberspace said:
Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!
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You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10
lennykravitz2004 said:
You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10
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Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.
lost in cyberspace said:
Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.
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Don't know if adb adblock is better - I've never used it. Didn't see you mention a couple of these things when you said you were "all set for awhile", so I was just trying to offer a few other things to consider and look into. Sounds like you're already on the ball though!
Personally, I'm happy with stock. Big reason for me to root was getting rid of ads. I've tried some of the other ROMs but I've always come back to the stock look and feel. I've had the device since about 1 week after it came out in Fall 2012. Of course, I am also on my third one since I totaled two other ones. I absolutely love it, and am in no hurry to upgrade (if possible). Hope you enjoy it as I have... lots of good stuff from devs here!

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