Why is it that I only flip between 4G and Edge but have no 3G. Does anyone else have this or is it a t mobile network thing?
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Pivo99 said:
Why is it that I only flip between 4G and Edge but have no 3G. Does anyone else have this or is it a t mobile network thing?
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It depends...are you stock, rooted stock, or custom ROM? The reason I ask (regardless of settings) is I never got 3G on stock. After I rooted and used Kasper's AOKP nightlies my phone would use Edege, G, 3G, and 4G. Where I work the signal wasn't so good so locking onto 3G was tough but with the J4 and JA modems now I can consistently hold 3G with the AOKP ROM.
My opinion is to check for the newest modem which is JA (Jelly Bean update) if you are rooted and use that from the modem download thread here on XDA. If you aren't rooted wait for the upgrade and you will get that modem regardless.
However, AOKP ROM most likely works differently so you still might not see 3G if you are stock JB that's why I think we would needa bit more info.
I'm stock everything for a change lol. I also have the latest jelly bean update. I haven't seen 3G once on the phone since I've gotten it. It's really weird...
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Your second guess is correct. Tmo is edge or a highly evolved version of 3g. It has nothing to do with stock vs rooted. The modem or kernel may help a little depending on what you are running. If you are in high speed 3g area aka 4G be happy.
Yeh it just gets annoying when I drop straight from 4G to Edge. :what:
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TomTcom said:
It depends...are you stock, rooted stock, or custom ROM? The reason I ask (regardless of settings) is I never got 3G on stock. After I rooted and used Kasper's AOKP nightlies my phone would use Edege, G, 3G, and 4G. Where I work the signal wasn't so good so locking onto 3G was tough but with the J4 and JA modems now I can consistently hold 3G with the AOKP ROM.
My opinion is to check for the newest modem which is JA (Jelly Bean update) if you are rooted and use that from the modem download thread here on XDA. If you aren't rooted wait for the upgrade and you will get that modem regardless.
However, AOKP ROM most likely works differently so you still might not see 3G if you are stock JB that's why I think we would needa bit more info.
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Pivo99 said:
I'm stock everything for a change lol. I also have the latest jelly bean update. I haven't seen 3G once on the phone since I've gotten it. It's really weird...
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T-Mobile uses HSPA+ for their current 4G network, which is just an extension of their 3G network. So, if you're on stock, it will jump from Edge to 4G, since T-Mobile's 3G and 4G are of the same technology.
When you're rooted, it will show 3G while your phone is at rest. As soon as "heavy" loads come in, it will shoot straight 4G. At times of very light loads, your phone might stay on 3G, but it's rare.
Bottom line, you're phone is perfectly fine when it jumps from 4G to Edge. Stock won't differentiate the two (3G&4G).
Well described... Thanks for clearing that up. Hopefully it helped some other people also.
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I was wondering if anyone else has/had this problem. My evo tends to time out on 3g, especially when I download a rom. The 3g indicator just goes dark and will stay that way for a couple minutes. It wouldn't be a big problem but I don't have hi speed where I live so every Rom I download is through my phone internet. When the 3g times out it causes the Rom download to fail. Has anyone else had this problem and what can you do to fix it? It's irritating having to download a rom 5 plus times
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j_shelton1988 said:
I was wondering if anyone else has/had this problem. My evo tends to time out on 3g, especially when I download a rom. The 3g indicator just goes dark and will stay that way for a couple minutes. It wouldn't be a big problem but I don't have hi speed where I live so every Rom I download is through my phone internet. When the 3g times out it causes the Rom download to fail. Has anyone else had this problem and what can you do to fix it? It's irritating having to download a rom 5 plus times
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This only happened to me when I was on stock. Now that I'm on a custom ROM, it doesn't happen anymore. I notice you are on a custom rom, so I'm sure that's not the problem.
It may be a coverage problem. It also happens to me when I'm switching from 3g to 1X, so that may be it.
The area I'm in has almost full signal. I've actually experienced this more on custom roms then when i was on stock.
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j_shelton1988 said:
The area I'm in has almost full signal. I've actually experienced this more on custom roms then when i was on stock.
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Have you tried flashing the more updated radios, etc?
Just did. Will report back to see if it helps
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Just did. Will report back to see if it helps
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Any update on this? Just was curious if this did the trick for you.
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My 3g does not work on roms outside of stock sense roms. I've read where others says sense roms always show 3g even if you are getting a 1x signal but my wife has an evo 4g, unrooted, as well and my 1x is way slower then her 3g signal. I 1x signal won't load web pages in most cases. I downloaded the most recent OTA and then flashed a rom after words but still no 3g.
Any update on this? Just was curious if this did the trick for you.
After I flashed the new radios etc. I tried to download a rom overnight. When I got up it said download failed, then I remembered to update prl and what not. After i updated things were ok until I tried out my 4G. I was having major issues with it not downloading. It was extremely slow. I was using the shooter ROM when these problems started so I flashed another ROM and haven't had any problems so far. Is it possible for a rom to affect 3g and 4G performance?
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Bravo78 said:
My 3g does not work on roms outside of stock sense roms. I've read where others says sense roms always show 3g even if you are getting a 1x signal but my wife has an evo 4g, unrooted, as well and my 1x is way slower then her 3g signal. I 1x signal won't load web pages in most cases. I downloaded the most recent OTA and then flashed a rom after words but still no 3g.
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This isn't necessarily true. Most custom ROMs show 1x. However the stock does not. Also, 1x should be slower than 3g.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear but that was my point. Thats what most people "say" about roms showing 1x and my 1x is slower then my wife 3g so I know its not that we don't have 3g in our area, its the rom. Right now I'm using R2R-green-R3, which has a 4g LTE icon and faster then the 1x rom I was using before. I flashed the honeycomb theme over it looks great and works great!
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Sorry if I wasn't clear but that was my point. Thats what most people "say" about roms showing 1x and my 1x is slower then my wife 3g so I know its not that we don't have 3g in our area, its the rom. Right now I'm using R2R-green-R3, which has a 4g LTE icon and faster then the 1x rom I was using before. I flashed the honeycomb theme over it looks great and works great!
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It shouldn't be the rom causing you to get 1x, have you tried updating prl/profile? I've run multiple custom roms and never had a problem. Areas where I know get 1x show it, but areas that get 3g show 3g and have 3g speeds
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I did up date the prl/profile but still no 3g. I'm at 3g speed now so its not a problem. Maybe I did something wrong on the other rom?
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Anyone seeing a problem with data speeds dropping on 8-30-2012 Aokp JB rom on their AT&T Galaxy S3. Mine was 10mbps dn & 2mbps up...now its throttled at 4mbps & 1dn. Checked against my wifes GS3 & its still getting the 10mbps. Tried flashing back to LG1 modem but no luck??
Yeah I got it too. Wasn't sure if it was just my area that was sucking after Isaac hit us.
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d3athsd00r said:
Yeah I got it too. Wasn't sure if it was just my area that was sucking after Isaac hit us.
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Yea i tried to go change mobile settings to lte but still had the drop occuring. Flashed back nandroid of Ultimatum 1.3 & all is fine again. Do you know where the latest on the 9.2.2012 task650 AOKP JB is ...was wondering if maybe this was resolved cause i sure love the speed & customization of his rom! JB Rockz!
During Isaac we lost data atleast 4x a day while I was on Aokp. I went to stock it was fine .
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How come you guys aren't posting these questions in the AOKP Q&A thread?
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I don't know how it is for AT&T, but AOSP ROMs on the T-Mobile S3 cannot properly utilize HSPA+42 speeds either, so we have lower DL/UL speeds as well. Probably the case here.
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I don't know how it is for AT&T, but AOSP ROMs on the T-Mobile S3 cannot properly utilize HSPA+42 speeds either, so we have lower DL/UL speeds as well. Probably the case here.
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Try toggling data roaming...go figure!
ok so on these jellybean roms, my messages never send half the time even when i have full data bars or signal bars also my data always jumps back and forth between 3g and hspa and i know for a fact im in hspa region cause on a ics rom it says 4g all the time this sh*%$ getting annoying anyone know why it does this only on jellybean roms, is it cause the source code isnt fully available or something
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ok so on these jellybean roms, my messages never send half the time even when i have full data bars or signal bars also my data always jumps back and forth between 3g and hspa and i know for a fact im in hspa region cause on a ics rom it says 4g all the time this sh*%$ getting annoying anyone know why it does this only on jellybean roms, is it cause the source code isnt fully available or something
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Find a jellybean radio and flash it, should fix your problem. There is a couple threads on radio's in development section.
Hi, I'm currently using a cm10 rom and I flashed the UVLH radio. JB works smoothly for me and calls are clear and messages arrive lromptly even. Maybe just flash a new radio one that's okay for ICS
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Still bouncing back n forth between 3g and 4g what's the jellybean radio?
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Still bouncing back n forth between 3g and 4g what's the jellybean radio?
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There is NO JB radio. 3G and 4G are almost the same thing. I do not believe T-Mobile phones with 4G can acquire 4G, as our 4G is a fake 4G. It is more a 3.5G. So I believe that it is just that the system recognizes the signal as 3G, but is really 4G.
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There is NO JB radio. 3G and 4G are almost the same thing. I do not believe T-Mobile phones with 4G can acquire 4G, as our 4G is a fake 4G. It is more a 3.5G. So I believe that it is just that the system recognizes the signal as 3G, but is really 4G.
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Oh well damn why on ICS ROMs tho its says 4g all the time same thing basically
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I have been flashing for years and i just came over from ATT SG3 where i had no problems flashing and retaining 4g, but now on tmobile every rom i flash all i ever get is 3g and never 4g .. only for a brief second. the reason i came from ATT was the unlimited data.. can someone please assist as i used CM10, AOKP, WICKEDv5, blackjelly..... i cant figured it out. any help would be appreciated.
So you have the T-Mobile version now? Tried different radios
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Teo032 said:
So you have the T-Mobile version now? Tried different radios
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I have tried every single radio but alas.. i have had no luck and i live in Phoenix, AZ and i have tried all the 4.1.1 modems
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I have tried every single radio but alas.. i have had no luck and i live in Phoenix, AZ and i have tried all the 4.1.1 modems
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Hmm i would think Phoenix should have good service. Maybe you should Odin back to stock and start all over. Radio is the only reason i can think of that would affect the speed.
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How are you distinguishing what connection you are on? Many roms will show H+ instead of 4g
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I'm on stock. Rooted yesterday and download speeds seem slower now. I will do more testing this afternoon.
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well on the t-mobile variations the best you can get is H+ and most ROMs show that. other than that, try using a different kernel. that was the problem for me where my data wouldn't even work sometimes.
It looks like op knows the difference between 3g and 4g/H+ he noticed that he only gets 4g for like a second here and there and that's it.
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I had a similar problem. What happened with me was one day I went from great 4G (HSPA+) speeds 80ms Ping, 25MB Down, 4MB Up to all of the sudden a 1200ms Ping with 0.05MB Down and NO UPLOAD.
Turns out it was a problem with some towers in my area. Took T-Mobile two weeks to fix everything. Not sure if that is what's happening here but it could be possible.
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I have tried every single radio but alas.. i have had no luck and i live in Phoenix, AZ and i have tried all the 4.1.1 modems
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I live in phoenix, Arizona.
My sun niggaa!
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Same issue AOKP Build5 4.2.2
I too have this same issue with AOKP build 5 solid 3g but no 4g (H+) (tmo)
Stock however has solid 4g (chandler AZ)
gonna try CM and see what happens there.
Also gonna research radios aswell (really really really liked AOKP just didnt like being back on 3g)
I have a epic touch 4g flashed to cricket and I was on wondering why I get 1x on custom ROMs but stock ROMs are just fine. And when I do get 3g the data acts weird and cuts on and off.
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It might not be that you are even on 3G but sprint has this little habit of lying on their stock ROMs by making it so it always shows 3G even when connected to 1x. The devs on xda have made it so that in ROMs shows the true connection such 1x/3G.
A good way to verify while on stock is to go look on the about phone to see what you are connected to or use netmonitor/speedtest to see what connection you are on.
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I had a ROM they showed real speeds and I was on 3g. The ROM was basically a slightly modified stock though....
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another welcome to sprint thread.. my speeds are always at 1x no matter what rom/modem im on because of my area
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Well first crickets 3g doesn't work very well on sprint phones, if you want real 3g you need a cricket phone or be on Sprint.
Data does work on touchwiz roms though, and if you want aosp you have to flash a fix to get it to work on those, but it won't be even close to 3g unless your lucky.
If you don't have the fix its here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479175 use the ics one for ics and jb.
I've gotten 1.6 Mb/s download speed on aosp jb with Cricket, although average during the day is more like 800Kb/s. Area, PRL, signal strength, etc play a huge role as well.
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