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Buying TP2 from US to use in UK?

Hi, I have been looking at getting a TP2 in the UK but they seem to be gold dust at the moment (as evident by a few other posters here complaining that T-Mobile and O2 are currently not stocking the phone due to "similarity with iPhone, N97, etc".). Anyway I am thinking of buying it on eBay and as I might be heading to the states soon, I was thinking of getting the TP2 in the US, unlocked. But I am not sure if the networks are compatible for use on O2 network in the UK. Apologies in advance for the ingorance...! Any advice would be helpful. Cheers.

Go Vodafone. Far better customer service than o2. Was a loyal o2 customer for about 5 years and was sick of not being able to understand indian accents on customer support. Gave up went to vodafone, got TP2. Profit.
As for the bands I am unsure. Just my input about netwroks. Sorry if it wasnt what you wanted.

I believe that that T-Mobile US version is compatible and the AT&T Version (which isn't out yet) definitely is. None of the US versions have front cameras, though. You will also need to find someone with AT&T that will request the unlock code for you (unless you find it unlocked on eBay).

Thanks for your quick response!
I tried going via Vodafone but the TP2 is currently only available to business customers. And because I have only moved house last month they rejected my application (didn't pass their credit check, apparently, despite having not missed a single credit payment, ever, in my life...). They did say I can apply again in 3 months, but I don't think I can wait that long, as I've been eye-ing the TP2 for like 3 months, waiting for my O2 contract to end!
I hear that the TP2 in the states are getting a regular 3mm plug for audio, which is a plus, but loses the front camera... hmm, trade offs! But at the risk of them incompatibility... perhaps a UK version is in order...

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/
there you go

yep go to MPD get a unlocked unbranded with a voda contract thats what i did £25 for the phone and 750 mins 250 text unlimited internet for £33 a month

Thirding MPD, 25 quid contract 18 months + web and walk.
Paid £50 for the phone. This gets a pristine unlocked oem phone which can be invaluable later on when the roms etc start coming out!
As far as the bands go- Im pretty sure you will be fine- if you have a look at this list:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/com...[0]=3478&phones[1]=2879&phones[2]=1590&area=2
It compares the Euro TP2 with the US touch pro and a sidekick (which should give a fair indication of what bands are used)
This site gives the bands and coverage for a load of networks over the pond so you should be able to check if you will get service:
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml

The Tmobile US version will work with 2G in Europe but not 3G.
The Sprint, Verizon, and Telus ones will work with 2G and 3G. Though I don't know if you need to unlock it or not...

solsearch said:
The Tmobile US version will work with 2G in Europe but not 3G.
The Sprint, Verizon, and Telus ones will work with 2G and 3G. Though I don't know if you need to unlock it or not...
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Thanks that is very helpful. I think I will follow the advice of others and go with MPD for a new contract. Thanks again everyone! I cant wait to get my hands on the TP2.

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CuteCutie said:
Hi, I have been looking at getting a TP2 in the UK but they seem to be gold dust at the moment (as evident by a few other posters here complaining that T-Mobile and O2 are currently not stocking the phone due to "similarity with iPhone, N97, etc".). Anyway I am thinking of buying it on eBay and as I might be heading to the states soon, I was thinking of getting the TP2 in the US, unlocked. But I am not sure if the networks are compatible for use on O2 network in the UK. Apologies in advance for the ingorance...! Any advice would be helpful. Cheers.
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When and where are you coming to the US? I have Euro version of phone and live in the US. If you buy US version you can not use 3G in ohter parts of the world. Same for Euro 3G can not be used in States. Maybe you can get US 3G version and then we can trade
If you come to New York City you can buy from store....mobilecityonline.com or at their actual store.

At0mAng said:
When and where are you coming to the US? I have Euro version of phone and live in the US. If you buy US version you can not use 3G in ohter parts of the world. Same for Euro 3G can not be used in States. Maybe you can get US 3G version and then we can trade
If you come to New York City you can buy from store....mobilecityonline.com or at their actual store.
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AT&T's HTC phones with 3G all have 2100MHz, I am sure the Tile 2 (Touch Pro 2 for AT&T) will also. This means it will work with European 3G as well as AT&T 3G.

I don't know about the AT&T version working in Europe. According to statements here and elsewhere the AT&T band, despite being classified as 2100mhz is slightly different from the rest of the world's 2100mhz bands, making it incompatible with them (I can't testify to this, it's just what I've read).

solsearch said:
I don't know about the AT&T version working in Europe. According to statements here and elsewhere the AT&T band, despite being classified as 2100mhz is slightly different from the rest of the world's 2100mhz bands, making it incompatible with them (I can't testify to this, it's just what I've read).
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Thats the T-Mobile version with the different 2100MHz. It has 1700MHz and 2100MHz, one for download and one for uplink. The European 2100MHz is 2100MHz for both downlink and uplink. The 2100MHz included on AT&T handsets is the European 2100MHz and not the T-Mobile version (which is referred to as 1700MHz to get around confusion).
The T-Mobile version's specifications list 1700MHz/2100MHz. I do not know if they are referring only to their bands where one is downlink and one is uplink or if they mean 1700MHz (1700MHz/2100MHz) AND European 2100MHz. I would bet that it includes European 3G but I am not positive.

Sorry, my bad. I get those companies mixed up

Yes I have been worried about the whole slightly different band and therefore it may or may not work in Europe!
I am having trouble with phone contracts at the moment because I have just moved home so my credit rating is completely annhilated and it just takes too long for the credit company to sort it out. In the end I have used eBay and bought a Vodafone branded TP2. I am sticking with O2 simplicity SIM at the moment as a rolling 30 day contract. I've not had too much trouble with O2 customer service, I always seem to get non-Indian, English speaking folks, but retention line was unprepared to make any offer at all which baffled me!
Anyway, onto the exciting (and somewhat scary prospect!) of getting to grips with Hard SPL and custom Roms!
PS, sorry At0mAng I got your message too late! I was thinking of California.

[Q] Buying the right Arc in the US!

Guys Newegg just posted couple Arc models claiming it works with AT&T 3G, I am not so sure about the bands so could you check this out for me?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875212166
Amazon has the same through J&R and that one is 35 bucks cheaper...
Or maybe someone can convince me to get S2?

Those 3G bands are the correct ones to work with AT&T, specifically the 850MHz and 1900MHz bands.

I have ordered this phone and it should arrive with a couple days, is there anything I need to know about software/fw updates, etc? Or just use it out of box and it should be fine?

Xperia play 4g on tmobile usa

Hey I was wondering if u unlock sim card on the at&t xperia play if it will connect to tmobiles 4g or at least the 3g, I will be gettin the r800at soon and wanna know if anyone has it on tmobile and if they are getting 3g or 4g.
If someone already posted this I'm sorry I searched but couldn't find anything
Thanks

You'll be getting EDGE or 2G whatever you want to call it. T-Mobile runs on a special frequency that AT&T doesn't.

That sucks that's the reson I wanted the r800at ohwell thanks for the info

Hope 3g or 4g will work once the merger happends with at&t and tmobile lol

coronasailor said:
Hope 3g or 4g will work once the merger happends with at&t and tmobile lol
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T-mobile in the US uses the same band it uses in the UK. Thats why it differs from the other US GSM networks If you buy a EU device you can use T-Mobile 3G.
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk

I dont mean to rain on anyones parade, but i thought id go and check this out because that didnt sound correct.
Tmobile 3g seems to require the AWS band, no available model of the xperia play carries that band.
Tmobiles setup uses one band for uplink and one for down, not one or the other, these bands being 1700 and 2100, the r800i carries 900/2100 and the r800a and r800at carry 800/850/1900/2100.
as you can see theres no 1700 band available on any xperia play model afaik. so it appears you might be sol sorry :/

Thanks for all the info so its stupid tmobile that sucks they should have just came out with a tmobile one when the one for at&t came out such jerks well at least I can play games lol ill just have to conect to wifi when I wanna download stuff or watch videos ohwell

T-Mobile needs to step up and get OFF 1700! NOBODY uses that freq! I WANT 3G

Hell ya I agree I only got tmobile cuz they had the sidekick 2 back in the day and just never changed kept doin the 2 year contract thing ohwell

"I dont mean to rain on anyones parade, but i thought id go and check this out because that didnt sound correct.
Tmobile 3g seems to require the AWS band, no available model of the xperia play carries that band.
Tmobiles setup uses one band for uplink and one for down, not one or the other, these bands being 1700 and 2100, the r800i carries 900/2100 and the r800a and r800at carry 800/850/1900/2100.
as you can see theres no 1700 band available on any xperia play model afaik. so it appears you might be sol sorry :/""
When I flashed my R800at to 2 different generic stock firmwares (which changed my model number to R800i & R800a)my mobile connection changed to Edge. It also changed when I went into the settings>network mode& change it to "GSM only". It only went back to H or HSPA & 3g when I changed the APN's & changed network mode back to WCDMA (preferred)/GSM. Does that mean that the AT&T XPlay can connect to an Edge(2g) network but not Tmobile's 3g network?? What if we changed the APN? If anyone tries this please post the results here.

Ok so I was wrong & I can confirm that the Att Xperia Play will not work on Tmobile's 3g or 4g under any circumstances. Only edge/2g data will work due to the difference in bands as was mentioned here.
Sent from my R800a using XDA App

well... that sucks. looks like i'll be getting an amaze 4g when i get back from Africa in spring!
(i only ordered the no-contract AT&T xperia play 4g to use on the "orange" network here, i don't want to have AT&T in the states. only t-mobile and verizon have 4g in my area, and i want to keep GSM for next time i travel, so t-mobile it is)

[Q]Xperia Play Types [Verizon,Sprint,AT&T]

Hi there, i just wanted to know the difference between those.
I live in Latvia, which is in Europe and i would like to buy Xperia Play trought paypal, and i saw that those TYPE Xperia's are cheaper then Unlocked. WHY?
Does those, Verizo, AT&T, Sprint won't work with my operator and what's the difference between them?
Can't i buy Verizon for cheaper and then unlock or root it for it to work on my operator?
I just can't understand difference between UNLOCKED and Verizon and those other ones.
Thanks

Oh dear god DO NOT GET THE ONE FROM VERIZON. You can't unlock it for free. And R800X looks lame. My neighbor has R800i and it's sick as ****.

Depends on if your carrier is GSM or CDMA. Verizon's version is CMDA only. The rest are GSM only. There are going to be slight incompatibilities between even the GSM models though, so it really just depends on what your carrier is. In Europe though, in general I'd recommend an R800i

Using Your Xperia M Abroad

I just moved to Canada and can't use my phone so much here. I bought it in Europe. One person working for a network here said that if it's bought in Europe, then it's a GSM version only and only Rogers and Fido support that. I'm so surprised. I thought the phone was quadband? I thought all smartphones were tri or quadband?
Has anyone else had this issue? Is it true what the shop person said? Other people with other networks said it definitely won't work on their network. But It is a factory unlocked phone...:crying:
I have the C1905 version. I see on eBay the US/Candian one is C1904. Maybe I'll buy a cheap C1904? How can I be sure? I don't want to waste money. I asked Sony and they basically said they 'can't be sure'.

As far as I know, only 3G network frequencies differ between C1904/C2004 and C1905/C2005. In 2G network it should work fine, since all variants are quadband...

mbc07 said:
As far as I know, only 3G network frequencies differ between C1904/C2004 and C1905/C2005. In 2G network it should work fine, since all variants are quadband...
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I have looked into this and that is indeed the problem, 3G is the only spectrum that doesn't work. Having just moved abroad AND chosen a plan with data included, I really needed Google Maps. Oh well. It's a big surprise with this phone. I'll have to buy a new one so I can access data again.