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Upgrading Radio

This is a re-post of one I did on PPCGeeks. Haven't received an answer there yet.
I have a Verizon xv6900 that has the 2.31 unlocker on it. I have flashed to other 6.1 ROMs, but am currently running the stock Verizon one. When I flashed back to stock, I let the customizations run (I like the version of Opera that comes with it) and my gps is non-functional. I've fought Valhalla, all the "fixes" that seem to work only for specific users and am wondering if upgrading the radio will fix the GPS. I went back to the stock ROM because the bluetooth works with my Redfly. I would trade that for working gps in a custom ROM.
If I upgrade to the Bell ROM with radio 3.42.50,
1. Will I get the use of the gps back?
2. Will I need a new A-key?
3. Will this lock me into using only custom ROMs?
4. Can I flash back to stock Verizon and will it downgrade the radio and poison the gps again?
Thanks for any help. I've read ImCoKeMaN's threads about downgrading radios and am just a little nervous about messing with the radio rather than just with the ROM.

You should but there has been problems like that with the stock verizon rom. Try to flash the Radio (3.4....or higher) and make sure you have Cokemans Unlocker/Bootloader.
If that doesnt work, refer to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462206
Hope you get the issue resolved. Good Luck!
1. Will I get the use of the gps back? Yes
2. Will I need a new A-key? Dont believe so
3. Will this lock me into using only custom ROMs? No
4. Can I flash back to stock Verizon and will it downgrade the radio and poison the gps again? Once you have it fully flashed you can always go back to stock (without downgrading radio) I think it is NOT good to DOWNGRADE the Radio. You dont have to change it back to flash to stock.

Thanks for the information! I have searched for weeks and couldn't find that link! One other thing, I'm in W-S, NC! Out of all the people here, who'd have thought a next door neighbor would have the answer!

drowe said:
Thanks for the information! I have searched for weeks and couldn't find that link! One other thing, I'm in W-S, NC! Out of all the people here, who'd have thought a next door neighbor would have the answer!
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could you please post your results once you finish, oh and by the way, i'm in Ch-tte, NC

Glad I was able to help. Seems like quite a few of us are in NC.

No luck.... When I ran the second half of the directions first, no satelites were found. I then tried doing the ppst portion like the directions asked and nothing happens. It kills the phone connection and requires a soft reset to get it back. I backed out of everthing at that point since I'm on call and can't be without the phone.

1. Will I get the use of the gps back?
Negative, letting the customizations run on the stock verizon rom is the culprit, that locked down your gps. You just have to search on how to fix it, I believe you need to change your PRI or your PRL to get gps back.. not positive which but I've seen the fix on here
2. Will I need a new A-key? Nope
3. Will this lock me into using only custom ROMs? Nope
4. Can I flash back to stock Verizon and will it downgrade the radio and poison the gps again?
Yes you can "downgrade" back to your verizon rom and radio as long as it is the verizon wm 6.1 rom because that still has a GPS radio. I have gone from the Bell 3.42.50 radio back to the Verizon 3.37.38 a couple times, as the .38 actually seems to have better reception in the location I am now than the .50
edit: If you do get your GPS working by finding a fix and decide to flash back to the stock verizon rom.....
DO NOT LET THE CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN (soft reset the phone before they start on the first boot)

Hi Can anyone one confirm any perfomance change over using 3.37.77 or 3.37.78 or 3.42.50 radio ??

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gogodj said:
Hi Can anyone one confirm any perfomance change over using 3.37.77 or 3.37.78 or 3.42.50 radio ??
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we have the radio ver.3.42.50 we dont have any problems what so ever

gogodj said:
Hi Can anyone one confirm any perfomance change over using 3.37.77 or 3.37.78 or 3.42.50 radio ??
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I went from 3.37.78 to 3.42.50 and saw no difference at all. Didn't seem to hurt anything, but didn't seem to help anything either. YMMV......

Thanks I updated to 3.42.50, didn't notice any change either

gogodj said:
Thanks I updated to 3.42.50, didn't notice any change either
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thats good

I have 3.37.78 and have had alot of dropped calls and missed text messages. I have to upgrade but have been lazy about it.
I have Verizon also and have successfully flash 9 different vouges
-2 (Insurance swaps) with the issue of GPS.
-3 (Friends) with the issue of GPS.
If your stuck and have a question just pm me. Ill be willing to guide you the correct way.

latest Verizon WM 6.1 ROM with upgraded 3.42.50 radio: possible?
So, is there any way to get a stock Verizon Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on my Vogue (avoiding poison customizations, etc.) and put on the Bell 3.42.50 radio? I'm using the 3.42.50 radio right now, and it ROCKS, but I'd like to go back to the standard Verizon software load, other than the radio firmware.
In the Kaiser world, there are RUUs that update the radio only. Do these exist for Vogue? This would seem to be the ticket...

wanderso said:
So, is there any way to get a stock Verizon Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on my Vogue (avoiding poison customizations, etc.) and put on the Bell 3.42.50 radio? I'm using the 3.42.50 radio right now, and it ROCKS, but I'd like to go back to the standard Verizon software load, other than the radio firmware.
In the Kaiser world, there are RUUs that update the radio only. Do these exist for Vogue? This would seem to be the ticket...
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Recently tackled this myself, due to the lack of a small SD card, I flashed the Bell ROM which includes radio: 3.42.50. Personally, NFSFAN's 6.5 (also works with his 6.1 build) suits me well, so I RUU'd that over top of the Bell ROM, the bell radio stuck, and both NFSFANs builds works well with that radio.
Official Bell ROM from HTC includes 3.42.50 radio: http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=70&cat=2&dl_id=98
****If you want to keep the stock Verizon software (ROM, etc) take a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415364 You can flash a stock Verizon ROM to your phone, and then, using a mSDcard flash the 3.42.50 radio.
Here is a link to the Official Verizon MR1 ROM
http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon%20Wireless
GPS Fix for the stock MR1 ROM (works for me consistently)
Just make sure u scroll down to the proper walk-through (for the MR1 Rom)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
Good Luck.
Can anyo0ne comment on tethered data speeds from one radio to another?

Radio, Radio update explanation please

I have been happily flashing ROM's, creating a Goldcard for a couple of weeks since getting my Hero and have just done a Radio update. I just realised I have no idea what the Radio update actually does.
Could someone explain in fairly simple terms what it is all about, I guess I have cat blood and curiosity has got the better of me

Sure. The radio update flashes the software on the little 'chip' that deals with mobile network/GPS/WiFI/Bluetooth etc. (basically all communications).
The update changes the software to a newer version, which can give better signal and battery life (It's a bit like flashing a normal ROM, except it's only for the communications hardware or baseband as iPhone users call it).
For more info, see http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-update-zip-format-for-gsm-hero/#entry1059164 which also gives you a list of them

Thanks for the prompt reply and simple terms. I am almost getting to the stage where I am qualified to make a phone call

Ah, great, I was wondering about this too. Is there any difference which radio rom you flash apart from GSM/CDMA? (My Hero has a suspicious "EU" in it which the roms I've seen online have not. Might just be some versioning, but then again it might be "europe"...)

How do you update your radio? Do you have to wipe?

EU doesnt mean europe, it is a way of identifying the radio version, like there is JU, JH, etc.

I found this out from other sources in the mean while (and forgot about this thread; it's been a couple of weeks after all), but thanks for replying anyway, it'll surely help the next guy wondering.

torstenk said:
How do you update your radio? Do you have to wipe?
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In the link posted a few posts up, you'll find the radio updates in the update.zip format needed to update via recovery mode, like any other custom ROM flash to your phone. However, Radio updates are typically included in the official RUU updates as well, but those will obviously unroot your phone.
Aside from increasing battery life/signal strength, radio updates can bring bugfixes and features. Newer OS ROMs typically work best with the latest Radio ROMs. After I rooted, I had an "EU" radio on my Telus Hero, and I couldn't make long distance calls unless the phone number had a "+" in front of it in my contact list. Updating the radio fixed that. Hope this info helps.

yeah it helped
But i dont understand the order of updating. First i transfer the update of the ROM to the phone and call it update.zip and the flash that ROM. But then i have to boot up the phone, to transfer the new radio and boot that.
Can it be true that i have to boot the phone and then tranfer the new radio, and the go into bootloader and flash the new update.zip?

torstenk said:
yeah it helped
But i dont understand the order of updating. First i transfer the update of the ROM to the phone and call it update.zip and the flash that ROM. But then i have to boot up the phone, to transfer the new radio and boot that.
Can it be true that i have to boot the phone and then tranfer the new radio, and the go into bootloader and flash the new update.zip?
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OK. Well, the file doesn't *have* to be called update.zip. The recovery image has an option to choose a zip file, which makes things much much easier, as you can flash several files without rebooting, although I believe you have to reboot as part of the radio flash process. With this in mind, I would flash the OS update first, then the radio update. However, it really doesn't matter what order you flash them in. While the OS and radio rely on each other for the phone to operate properly, they are completely separate and individual from a flashing standpoint. They both get flashed in the exact same way from the recovery image, however with the radio, rebooting the phone is a necessary part of the process. If you were (for some dumb reason) to flash the radio and then remove the battery before the phone had completely rebooted, you'd end up with a broken (and possibly bricked) phone.

I wouldn't flash a radio without having an os installed, so if you have wiped then flash an os first. Just to make sure everything goes smooth.
A new radio file won't install until you do the first boot after installing which from memory is forced on you, so you will want to have a rom installed.

Thanks for the information about radio, quite useful. I have tried several ROMs lately but haven´t touched the radio yet. I guess if update to more recent one can improve battery and signal as it has been mentioned before.
I will try and see how my Hero behaves

jsampedro said:
Thanks for the information about radio, quite useful. I have tried several ROMs lately but haven´t touched the radio yet. I guess if update to more recent one can improve battery and signal as it has been mentioned before.
I will try and see how my Hero behaves
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Yeah once again just make sure you install the radio for your phone type.
E.g. GSM (I am guessing as you are on this forum and not he sprint one)

Lennyuk said:
Yeah once again just make sure you install the radio for your phone type.
E.g. GSM (I am guessing as you are on this forum and not he sprint one)
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So basically you just have to watch out if the radio is for GSM or CDMA and then you are good to go?

alpha124 said:
So basically you just have to watch out if the radio is for GSM or CDMA and then you are good to go?
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Yes
And don't panic when it takes up to 5 mins to boot first time.

Radio update
HI ALL
please ,if i flah the radio , i loste des root ?.
And please wish methode to flash wihtout lost the root
PS:I have the hero
thanks for help

flashing radio doesn't do anything to the rom, you won't lose your root.

thanks Lennyuk,
Please you confirm that if i flash only the radio ,the root is not pacted ?
Sorry for my bad english and my bad request

[Q] Reception...

Hello, i have purchased my Htc desire Hd a few days ago and i love it. I came across these forums and found them very helpful. I decided to _root my phone and install the latest Cm ROM and all went well. When i bought the phone the supplier (three) said that i would be able to get speeds up to to 6mb on the mobile broadband in my area. Sadly this is not the case as i am on EDGE.
I was wondering is there anyway to boost signal either by app or a different radio or ROM.
Thanks in advance.

Well, it could be from some setting maybe, but if i was in your shoes i'd ask the people in the Original Thread.
When upgrading from an fairly old ROM to a new ROM, i'd suggest the flashing of a new radio.
BE CAREFUL, AS FLASHING RADIOS ARE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.
See the OP of the ROM thread and see if flashing a radio is mentioned (if its not mentioned on the thread, dont flash a new radio, or you can ask them if you can). Normally, ROM are supplied with a RECOMMENDED radio that works perfectly with it.
So ask the people in that thread (or see the OP) if and which radio you should flash.
FLASHING RADIOS COULD BRICK YOUR PHONE, AND ONLY YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BRICKING IT
- just a little warning with a happy face

Thanks alot for your time I didnt know flashing radios was as dangerous :/ i've done it twice. well thanks for the warning with the happy face
Is there any fail safes for flashing ? anything like roms or radios ?
Thanks in advance

By 'Fail Safes' do you mean 'a mechanism that manages failures and results in minimum harm'? (just googled it )
If so, well, android itself has MANY mechanisms. And by flashing ROMs, all it does is overwrite the current files. So flashing something (given that the script to flash it is correct - if not, then it wont flash - or could flash it to the wrong place) doesnt have any fail safes, which is why, if an incorrect radio is flashed, the phone wont do anything, but when you come to boot it, it could be bricked (worst possible case).
Flashing ROMs with errors can be fixed easily if you know how. Just build a flashable .zip file that'll overwrite the files that have errors with correct files.... - determining the error could be done by using 'adb logcat'

Thanks ! you couldn't have done more Thanks again for everything i will be more cautious when flashing Another big thanks !
Luke

Your Welcome , anytime

[Q] Radio (No data connection)

Hi,
since I installed the PACman rom, I hardly get any mobile network connection.
I never had any problems with this, I got a connection everywhere (except at my school) within milliseconds.
I suppose this can be fixed changing the radio (correct?).
Can you post a link to a guide that explains what a radio is?
Otherwise, these are the questions I didnt found an answer for:
- Is the radio installed with the rom or does it stay the same during the installation of a new rom?
- Can an unsuccessful installation of a radio cause permanent problems that cannot be solved by installing another radio or by restoring a nandroid backup?
- What radio should I use? How do I determine which one is best?
- Does the choice of the radio depend on my carrier/service? Some radios have a carrier in their name.
- Can this solve my connectivity problem at all?

New roms doesnt install radios but installs ril's if you can get a better reception on any roms ril could be your problem
I never witnessed a one but in the case of an interrupt at radio installation could brick your phone!
Everyone says its a matter of location based situation which i agree the simplest way to figure out is to installing the newest and measure your battery and reception rates if its worse that your previous one than rollback to another newer radio but remember dont flash ril's on aosp(cyanogen like)roms it will probably cut your connection off
No just the location and the phone matter
I think you should just give other roms a try for example pipelinerArd Unofficial 10.1 is rock stable for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073992
If you gonna install this dont flash ril's
and try Getril from playstore maybe that can solve your problem
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zaWJib3IuZ2V0cmlsIl0.

The app says RIL and baseband dont fit, but after the app downloaded and installed something it still says the same.

No you dont need to do it on aosp and aokp roms like pacman whats your current radio ?

ymcc said:
No you dont need to do it on aosp and aokp roms like pacman whats your current radio ?
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I installed this one:
Radio_12.68.60.29_26.16.04.09_M.exe

Need help flashing skyrocket Rom

Hey everyone, noob here. I have a T989 and its my first smartphone. Anyway Id like to "flash" to a skyrocket Rom. Reason why may be obvious, Im on At&t and only getting edge speed. I guess the skyrocket will open the needed radio frequencies to get 3g.
First question, is a flash absolutely necessary, is there another way to open radio freq?
Second question, any issues w/ skyrocket Rom/s? I read there was a screen rotation issue. Has that been fixed?
Lastly, and I hate to ask, how exactly do I safely flash my phone? Like how do I back it up, where to find the flash, and how to install? Id really hate to brick my phone as its my only computer atm.
B4 I go, I must say thank you in advance to all that care to help as its immensely appreciated. Really, thank you.

I'm not sure that we can use skyrocket radios and roms don't open up the radio frequency
The rotation fix must be flashed after flashing a skyrocket rom but to back out ur roms, use titanium backup
Lastly flashing steps are within the threads for the rom
Sent from my Zapped SGH-T989 using Supercharged Slim Bean

Speaking as one who has gone the other way [skyrocket/att to tmobile] I believe you need to flash the radio, not the rom.